SUPERHEAVY SAMURAI - Ten Minute Testing

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@bakawkawk
@bakawkawk Жыл бұрын
my favorite bit is that he's been in there since Zexal
@aldrinflores4531
@aldrinflores4531 Жыл бұрын
I know especially since Superheavy Samurai came out at the start of Arc-V
@PepperPersonal
@PepperPersonal Жыл бұрын
@@aldrinflores4531 man I remember running giant rat on super heavies on that time and gongenzaka's theme is pretty cool
@Petsinwinter2
@Petsinwinter2 Жыл бұрын
And that he somehow knew who Apollousa and Baronne were
@charlesfort6602
@charlesfort6602 Жыл бұрын
​@@Petsinwinter2 oh yeah true lmao
@BoBnfishy
@BoBnfishy Жыл бұрын
​@@Petsinwinter2I was just about to say that
@Symphony_Gex
@Symphony_Gex Жыл бұрын
I love how he went into cryogenic freezing and still knows what Appo and Baronne are
@anonjohn9760
@anonjohn9760 Жыл бұрын
A true yugioh player can instinctually tell when a card is bullshit or powerful, even if they've never heard of it before.
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
Baronne and appo are a constant in the universe, everyone knows about them in any point of the timeline
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
I mean he knew about Super Heavy Samurai during the Zexal era, even though it came out in the Arc V era...
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting Жыл бұрын
@@homerman76 I sure hope Dire got a rare W for that blunder.
@SoraBell
@SoraBell Жыл бұрын
@@kauanjos3199 don’t forget Accesscode
@Skyrim896
@Skyrim896 Жыл бұрын
That intro perfectly embodied my feelings towards the new SHS support.
@midn8588
@midn8588 Жыл бұрын
Skits on point as always!
@filthycheat3070
@filthycheat3070 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I liked the direction the deck had been going when they released Steam Train King, and it all feels pretty wasted now.
@monkfishy6348
@monkfishy6348 Жыл бұрын
It will always be an issue until Konami gets back to banning 'best-of' toolbox monsters like they used to.
@DoctorOaks
@DoctorOaks Жыл бұрын
I know that SHS is gonna be meta and that makes people upset at the idea of playing against it. MAN will it feel good though to roll up with my pimped out deck from when the cards were all 2 cents.
@honeyjm8324
@honeyjm8324 Жыл бұрын
Brother!!
@marchmelloow
@marchmelloow Жыл бұрын
That intro guy was waiting for SHS support for so long he started waiting before the deck even showed up in the anime.
@tranquilissekai8613
@tranquilissekai8613 Жыл бұрын
Okay I heard Superheavies were a combo deck now AND I WAS FINE WITH THAT but I thought it was like "Oh for like a new superheavy boss that's super good right" and when you said 'they just make appo and baron now' I felt the life leave my body
@reversal3628
@reversal3628 Жыл бұрын
Insert Anakin meme My favourite deck getting better, right? RIGHT?
@grodon909
@grodon909 Жыл бұрын
Jokes on them, I can't even afford a baronne!
@jdamourep
@jdamourep Жыл бұрын
Yeah the new synchro isn't good to end on.
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 Жыл бұрын
SHS has barely anything to end on. For a defense based archetype, the synchros lack protection
@MrMan-uw2vp
@MrMan-uw2vp Жыл бұрын
maybe they’d end on actual shs stuff if any of them were good like even a little
@pietips4077
@pietips4077 Жыл бұрын
Never in all of my years did I think that SUPERHEAVY SAMURAI would be meta.
@rendy1222
@rendy1222 Жыл бұрын
Funny attack in defence position deck become good when they can start putting ton of negate
@tootsie_
@tootsie_ Жыл бұрын
It's not really superheavy samurai tho, it's just a pend deck that locks you out of spells
@dungeonmaster3464
@dungeonmaster3464 Жыл бұрын
@@tootsie_ I'll argue that even though they're not using their archetypal boss monsters, they're still making boards using using the machanics SHS has always had. It's from the pend era, so it makes sense to have pend monsters. It's not an engine in a Pend Magicians or Endemion deck.
@dhanyl2725
@dhanyl2725 Жыл бұрын
​@@rendy1222 It doesn't even play sideways oonga boonga anymore tho, just another combo
@KuroeNezumi
@KuroeNezumi Жыл бұрын
​@@tootsie_ ...I mean, pend deck with 2 different pends whose gameplan is to toolbox into the best stuff they're allowed to by their non-locks, and not pendulum summon. But I've heard other decks called stuff because of having less main-deck cards than that... I can't say this isn't a superheavy deck, because clearly there's a critical mass of them in the list, but it feels extremely bad that none of their bosses are worth playing above going for barone with ASS Dragon because Bike is, coincidentally, a 2, and it isn't interested in locking you into superheavys; and that's without talking of all the other stuff that can better use their field presence.
@toast9884
@toast9884 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Superheavy Samurai with 3 synchros is heartbreaking Where's the train? Susanowo? Hell I'll take a stealth ninja please
@nemanjacvijancevic8349
@nemanjacvijancevic8349 Жыл бұрын
Well some lists side Stealth ninja for time reasons. I see what you're saying tho
@toast9884
@toast9884 Жыл бұрын
@@nemanjacvijancevic8349 So now with the new Superheavy Samurai cards we are playing a grand One Superheavy Samurai synchro
@flickerygems7779
@flickerygems7779 Жыл бұрын
You want more superheavie?, check out the ftk version
@AcroxShadow
@AcroxShadow Жыл бұрын
@@toast9884 You can play more. A lot of the Extra in this list is very flexible. Much of the deck in general is, really. Scarecrow, a Level 8 Synchro (Sarutobi and/or Accel Stardust, usually), Qliphort Genius, AG Ballista, Apollousa and Baronne are the only real necessities in the Extra. Accel Stardust is a great boost but not required if you can't get it.
@toast9884
@toast9884 Жыл бұрын
@@AcroxShadow That's good to hear
@masterjunk9227
@masterjunk9227 Жыл бұрын
“Is Baronne De Fleur a Superheavy Samurai?” “No, Big Benkei, Baronne De Fleur is not a Superheavy Samurai.” … [Big Benkei raises their hand again.] “Borrelsword Dragon is not a Superheavy Samurai either.” [Benkei sets their hand back down.]
@kyleyuen245
@kyleyuen245 Жыл бұрын
That intro is the reaction of every pure SHS player looking at how the new support is used, I just wanna attack in defense position with a big booty
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher Жыл бұрын
Just play it pure then
@kyleyuen245
@kyleyuen245 Жыл бұрын
@@Honest_Mids_Masher I totally plan to, it's just sad that more people will play it as an engine for other boss monsters
@FloreyXE
@FloreyXE Жыл бұрын
I like the deck pure Idc how good or bad it is I just want to attack in defense position
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher Жыл бұрын
@@kyleyuen245 That's how playing meta is unfortunately
@number-qx1kw
@number-qx1kw Жыл бұрын
Then do it , no one is stopping you dude
@tanthientruong3820
@tanthientruong3820 Жыл бұрын
Mbt: Wakaushi is full combo Mbt: Never shown the full combo*
@maxinesenior596
@maxinesenior596 Жыл бұрын
Full combo: Wakaushi -> set scale -> benkei add piercer, normal piercer link off for scarecrow, piercer add bike, bike add peacemaker, scarecrow effect summon back piecer, make ass dragon, summon back bike and search for booster and put waka in scale, synch for baronne, and then peacemaker on scarecrow under protection of baronne negate Full combo is also achievable with any 1 of wagon, piercer, or bike.
@sirokami2992
@sirokami2992 Жыл бұрын
That intro was my exact reaction 😂 No SUPER HEAVY SAMURAI in my SUPER HEAVY SAMURAI DECK! 😱
@Ruby_Mullz
@Ruby_Mullz Жыл бұрын
I’ve been in there since ZEXAL… My guy went into cryostasis a whole show early.
@OgaTasumi
@OgaTasumi Жыл бұрын
my only qualm with the opening bit is that he didn't ask whats an appolusa or barrone
@captainchaos5705
@captainchaos5705 Жыл бұрын
Not the part about Zexal
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
@@captainchaos5705 Yeah I just accepted that he can see the future to an extent after that line xD
@Rurike
@Rurike Жыл бұрын
Didnt matter what they were, they werent superheavy samurias
@Linkiscool115
@Linkiscool115 Жыл бұрын
Ive played them since 2014, and if someone went back in time to highschool me and told me Superheavy was meta, I wouldn't believe them.
@february7438
@february7438 Жыл бұрын
The not-slamming of the door is the ultimate expression of sadness
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 Жыл бұрын
0:29 My reactions to SHS becoming meta by just becoming an Extra deck vomit Machine. And the only Cards from the archetype they play (in the extra Deck) being the Link Scarecrow and the level 8 Synchro Ninja Sarutobi (and sarutobi Only sometimes) 1:18 Decklist 1:53 Sadly only thanks to Big Benkei, they can attack in DEF position. Only wagon can do that on its own (well the extra deck monsters can attack in DEF position too but you get what i mean) 2:25 Now the only thing remaining of superheavy samurai's identity is that "you MUST NOT HAVE S/T in the GY to use their effects to full potential" 4:37 I am surprised this one is here..... right. extra body to summon
@KuroeNezumi
@KuroeNezumi Жыл бұрын
Hey, that's not being accurate: they're playing more than 2 superheavys...in the main deck. And don't make nor play any of their own ED or main deck bosses. Which is even more depressive.
@pretsel5132
@pretsel5132 Жыл бұрын
Nothing is stopping you from playing them pure. Wakaushi is even better in the pure version because it has an effect that locks you into superheavy samurai
@asafesseidonsapphire
@asafesseidonsapphire Жыл бұрын
​@@KuroeNezumiyou can also run the 2 new synchro Boss monsters, it helps with bricks.
@ryanmcconnell7410
@ryanmcconnell7410 Жыл бұрын
stardust accel synchro is such a cool card limited by a small silo called: thank god i can make a generic negate with this
@larhyperhair
@larhyperhair Жыл бұрын
My buddy runs this deck, and with the right hand you're even able to pend for Cyber stein, allowing you to make a Naturia Exterio, and a Borreload savage dragon in ADDITION to the appo + Baronne. It's forced me to run cards I never normally would, like maining 2 dark ruler, and worst of all .... Droll
@MrOzono
@MrOzono Жыл бұрын
If only the lock into superheavy samurai happened a little earlier
@matthewradabaugh1635
@matthewradabaugh1635 11 ай бұрын
Or at all
@TrevorAllenMD
@TrevorAllenMD Жыл бұрын
Wow I’ll definitely be main decking Dark Mirror Force for this format. I can’t believe this gets around both Mirror Force and Sakaretsu. As a Goat player my play style and resource understanding really understand why this deck is so strong!
@maxinesenior596
@maxinesenior596 Жыл бұрын
Only two of the superheavies attack while in defense nowadays
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
@@maxinesenior596 You seem to have missed the joke
@5H4D0W-TP
@5H4D0W-TP Жыл бұрын
I thought I'll be seeing the deck list which beats the previous Gold Pride deck. _“My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.”_
@LazurBeemz
@LazurBeemz Жыл бұрын
I liked how much the games showed off the new support
@TheTacoduke
@TheTacoduke Жыл бұрын
Sad that super heavy samurai just joined the ever growing pile of decks reduced to making Appo+ Baronne and or Borreload Savage Dragon
@davidjimenez3822
@davidjimenez3822 Жыл бұрын
and people called me a madman when I said Baronne should only be made with Fleur Synchro + Chevalier, and that Borrel Savage should be made with Rokket monsters
@beograddrzava178
@beograddrzava178 Жыл бұрын
​@@davidjimenez3822 Then it wouldn't be nowhere sellable as it is.And we all know what is the most important for Konami.
@georgewalters3343
@georgewalters3343 Жыл бұрын
@@davidjimenez3822 doing these changes would be amazing. No changes to the effects just materials used to make the monsters
@KuroeNezumi
@KuroeNezumi Жыл бұрын
​@@davidjimenez3822 i understand where you're coming from, but my necessity to sometimes go into it on speedroids and understanding of the ways it isn't as great compels me to try and make you change your mind into only asking for it to need a machine tuner, so I can continue to eat 9s with maliciousmagnet to make it (fleur synchron is a machine tuner).
@PuchuKt
@PuchuKt Жыл бұрын
​@@davidjimenez3822and appo... Should be banned
@fjorddkcckkc3783
@fjorddkcckkc3783 Жыл бұрын
I honestly really like all the spright variants that are popping up, stuff like spright melffy always makes me smile
@anakinsmith4770
@anakinsmith4770 Жыл бұрын
I don't and I'll tell you why it's because it's far better to power up a deck using it's own cards than a specific engines because it's a terrible design aspect to make a deck that is greatly improved only because of that engine as an example nephthys topped but that double edged sword because if you ban spright you ban all those decks as well. Runick has this same issue.
@flickerygems7779
@flickerygems7779 Жыл бұрын
​@@anakinsmith4770 what
@bismarckimperia8781
@bismarckimperia8781 Жыл бұрын
@@anakinsmith4770 what
@Norticus
@Norticus Жыл бұрын
@@anakinsmith4770 what
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
Same
@cyberdoga5728
@cyberdoga5728 Жыл бұрын
Aw yeah my favorite flavor of yugioh legacy support /s. New support meant to speed up the deck in a way that makes them rely on strong generic boardbuilding that in the end makes it look like every other boardbuilder deck so the nuance of the archetype is entirely with the combo lines and avoiding having unique and strong ace monsters.
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 Жыл бұрын
Worst part is they released a new boss monster for SHS and it isn't great. All it has is some protection and draw power.
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 Жыл бұрын
@@newfaces_v2 Not an omni negate (SHS aren't really focus on interaction in the first place, so wouldn't make sense), but a better protection effect (i.e. can't be destroyed by card effects) or giving your other SHS some protection. Also make it non-generic (at least restrict a part of the materials into machines).
@Desma-wf4xo
@Desma-wf4xo Жыл бұрын
​@@dudono1744 The new SHS synchro does protect all your SHS monsters from destruction, you just have to give up another SHS card for it.
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 Жыл бұрын
@@Desma-wf4xo oh, i thought it only protected itself. Raigeki still murders most SHS boards tho
@grodon909
@grodon909 Жыл бұрын
You know what the most tragic part is? We were soo close to having a samurai vs ninja meta
@Deadlad69
@Deadlad69 Жыл бұрын
And pirates if plunder patrol was a bit stronger. The age old pirates vs ninjas lol
@nightwish7074
@nightwish7074 Жыл бұрын
Superheavies were one of my first decks and that opening skit is my exact take on the new SHS stuff.
@obiesenpai3869
@obiesenpai3869 Жыл бұрын
What's funny is that the deck that is supposed to hard lose to droll is actually better at playing around Droll than a lot of other decks since their "droll plan" is bagooska pass, which unless your opponent draws imperm is good enough
@UnrealityZero
@UnrealityZero Жыл бұрын
9:37 when Benkei searched Soulgaia my heart just sank...
@qweschuning
@qweschuning Жыл бұрын
It's like what's the point of non-opts... But he did need a summon iirc which idt anything else facilitated as efficiently
@lancerguy3667
@lancerguy3667 Жыл бұрын
That intro, though! Reminds me of a year or so ago, when people would keep saying “I found a way to make [archetype] rogue in modern Yugioh!” I’d feel dubious, but hopeful, So I’d check it out, watch 30 seconds and… “Oh… you just made another Halq-into-Auroradon deck… But with a less consistent starting point.”
@redroC171
@redroC171 Жыл бұрын
amazing that cryogenic freezing intro joseph thought to do that years before any superheavy samurais were ever printed, that shows a great deal of foresight
@claudio6391
@claudio6391 Жыл бұрын
I feel like people are forgetting a lot of the tools making the deck strong are things that It already had. Soulpiecer searches non-once per turn, the soul cards are individually strong by being either free summons or summons from deck, Wagon searches said soul cards, scales is a reborn. The new support is quite crazy, but its mostly just consistent boost to what was already there.
@0_MikankoChan
@0_MikankoChan Жыл бұрын
The new support is there to make a deck that lost its own soul and turn it to a spam deck with generic idiots like salad is doing everything except summon there own bossmons cause they forgot to lock you into fire
@claudio6391
@claudio6391 Жыл бұрын
@@0_MikankoChan No, It could always do that. None of the old SHS locked, It always wanted to summon spam and search ad infinitum, It simply got better tools to do so.
@MrSonicDoctor
@MrSonicDoctor Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching you play this deck like how it's been performing in OCG. But I also would have loved to see you maybe for one game to show it off with the Superheavies too. Like they got new synchros too but everyone are doing combo videos with the bike and prodigy.
@qweschuning
@qweschuning Жыл бұрын
Synchros are booty and the only competitive thing I've noticed from either is the 12 being part of the ftk
@prosamis
@prosamis Жыл бұрын
This is why I love the traptrix support They really kept the archetype's identity, unlike this... Thing
@Spyko-
@Spyko- Жыл бұрын
intro and desc encapsulate perfectly this support wave yeah it's playable, it's very good even, but at what cost
@afeathereddinosaur
@afeathereddinosaur Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to attack in defense position :(
@F2PAlius
@F2PAlius Жыл бұрын
Welcome, to SHS 3.0. Finally branching out away from big booties to a variety of booties to help us win.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
So they made the theme into a board-establishing engine. This was already one of the more unique archetypes in the game's life. ATK in DEF and Monster Mash. Generically strong boss cards should not be designed stronger than in-archetype ones is the lesson from this. And if they are that good at being an omni, sometimes multiple, they're bannably good.
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 Жыл бұрын
IMO it's rather "in-archetype bosses should be made stronger than current generic ones"
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
@@dudono1744 lmao 'rocket-tag' approach. I really do mean that generic bodies should be made weaker than in-theme aces of the time because mini toolboxes and techs are fine by me. Xyz, Link, and Synchro techs are fun, but if they can take over several deck identities and reduce them to mere engines they are too centralizing and bannably good.
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 Жыл бұрын
@@runningoncylinders3829 You are saying that every generic synchro that came after ally of justice should be weaker than the ally of justice boss monster ? However if you're saying that generics should be weaker than in archetype bosses released at the same time, I agree.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
@@dudono1744 I definitely put a time frame on it. The ceilings would rise together. Just exclusives taken higher most of the time.
@ShadowHazy
@ShadowHazy Жыл бұрын
0:08 I didn't know Superheavy Samurai was in Zexal. What character used it anyway?
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx Жыл бұрын
Man's been in cryostatis since zexal.possibly hinted a fore-upset on battlin boxer archetype
@nicholaspetri2475
@nicholaspetri2475 Жыл бұрын
0:40 Considering he's been frozen since 2014 it would've been even funnier if the skit ended with him saying "The fuck is an Appolosa and Barron?" and the other guy just starts sobbing.
@CaptainMarvel4Ever
@CaptainMarvel4Ever Жыл бұрын
“Since ZeXal” oh yeah, I remember all those pendulums synchros we played in the Xyz era.
@nesspurr6931
@nesspurr6931 Жыл бұрын
I doubt Mr. Streamerman is even going to see this, but why just 1 copy of Soulpeacemaker? The version of the deck MBT played bricked a ton on non-engine, so having the added consistency of another way to get to Wakaushi or any other SHS seems exactly what this list needed, as well as one of the bigger SHS synchros to OTK a lot easier
@dotreant5264
@dotreant5264 Жыл бұрын
So it does the same as spyral in master duel but with their own mechanic in the main deck monsters? Really cool, engaging and interesting card design...🥰
@saudmubarak1876
@saudmubarak1876 Жыл бұрын
But better and with 20 handtraps
@Metalseadraking
@Metalseadraking Жыл бұрын
The only thing more painful than realizing the only way SHS becomes meta becoming "What kind of flavour do you want your baronne?", is MBTs pronounciation of the names
@geiseric222
@geiseric222 Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s still doing what it was doing. It was a syc deck before. It just got better cards to sync into
@Metalseadraking
@Metalseadraking Жыл бұрын
It's just kinda sad to see that for high level plays none of the shs synchros used or that they just aren't good in contrast to whats available in the generic extra deck Which in the end is the same result a lot of other Meta Decks play I hoped maybe shs could have achieved something with their gimmick of being defense position behemoths Dont get me wrong I like how shs combos are amazing and they keep the monster mash And it's more on Konami for not giving them any useful bossmonsters Funnily enough Im more frustrated at Wakaushi being a dark machine instead of earth or that scales price more than quintupled as a rare, than the decks actual bossmonster being baronne (which im sadly too poor to use. Tho I do have a appolousa lying around)
@eleonarcrimson858
@eleonarcrimson858 Жыл бұрын
I think this shs version is not one of those decks konami gave op support to just lose its identity. I was playing a combo type of list even before the support, the machine ed i.e gigant x, genius, ballista are all insane cards and are what make machines what they are. The support just made it a lot more efficient at accessing those extra deck cards. I know people played the one note otk big boy version, i was never a fan of it and was always trying to play a combo version of this deck and i am happy to see this support.
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
I think people just forget that there isn't just one gimmick to the deck, as SHS has always also been big being at their strongest when you avoid having spells/traps in the grave, leading to a monster only deck generally. Now if they had printed out some spells/traps to use in the deck that don't banish themselves, then it would be Konami strangling the deck's identity as people are claiming (though it does make me sad that the main gimmick of attacking in defense is more of a side note at best.)
@chineduonwumere5562
@chineduonwumere5562 Жыл бұрын
After playing around with SHS for a while now, I will say this deck is really good. The biggest problem with this video was the lack of engine played. All 1-ofs with a ton of hand traps that ended up weakening your consistency by a ton. Modifying the extra deck as well allows you to play into more boards and end on a stronger turn 1, while having more engine allows you to play through hand traps very easily. Searching is great in this deck, but with more soul peacemakers and Scales then you should still be able to set up 1-2 interruptions not including hand traps after droll.
@gravethestampede3454
@gravethestampede3454 Жыл бұрын
Once again a pet deck gets support that's so good it becomes a shell for turn 1 generic negate city boards with nary a hint of soul. Many such cases
@pretsel5132
@pretsel5132 Жыл бұрын
Go play it pure no one is stopping you (unless you want to play it in paper, which yeah is way too expensive)
@CrazyWizza
@CrazyWizza Жыл бұрын
He got the HEAVIES 🥵
@Tokumastu1
@Tokumastu1 Жыл бұрын
And this is why I hate how konami treats legacy support. All it does is strip an archetype of it's identity and have it go one of 2 ways: it either ends on a bunch of negates or on a bunch of floodgates. In essence they turn them into every other modern top tier archetype. Anybody here remembers when we use to get fun gimmicks or unique play styles for archetypes?
@Powerman293
@Powerman293 Жыл бұрын
We get that when an archetype debuts and then they turbocharge it into extra deck combo on the legacy support.
@azurabbit12
@azurabbit12 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes because every single meta deck does exactly the same, definitely Purrely doesn't have a completely unique gameplan based on ranking up into a rank 7 towers by using quick-play spells and a bunch of level 1s. Kashtira definitely wasn't extremely unique being the first zone lock strat to be meta, Labrynth doesn't have a completely unique gameplan based on using NORMAL TRAPS to interrupt the opponent, set a resource loop and drown the opponent in advantage, while rarely using an actual negate. Ofc no! All Yugioh meta decks are exactly the same and they have no uniqueness or fun gimmicks whatsoever
@Xero-rr2ol
@Xero-rr2ol Жыл бұрын
@@azurabbit12 Yup. Basically every meta relevent deck does the exact same thing just with different flavors.
@stuckmeister7750
@stuckmeister7750 Жыл бұрын
​@Azura these are good examples of meta decks with interesting mechanics but the OP mentioned legacy support, which without fail is pretty much broken one card combo snoozefest like shs or mathmech or floodgate turbo. I feel they usually don't even bother to try to keep the og gimmick in mind. Infernoble looks like a step in the right direction tho.
@Tokumastu1
@Tokumastu1 Жыл бұрын
@@azurabbit12 ​ Kashtira ends on floddgates, one being a macro on legs and the other being the zone locks, Labrynth is all about using Eradicator Epidemic virus and Deck Devastation Virus you know just two powerful floodgates. Purreley gets a small pass, but considering they got a monster that's a skill drain on legs during the owerns turn it's only matter of time before konami gives them floodgate. So, yeah, again modern top tier decks usually end on one of 2 boards it's eitehr floodgates or Negate board.
@DuffBeerJ
@DuffBeerJ Жыл бұрын
If you want to make a pet deck meta, just turn it into adamancipator
@tehy123
@tehy123 Жыл бұрын
If he's been in there since Zexal, how does he know what Apollousa and Baronne are?
@mohammadmurie
@mohammadmurie Жыл бұрын
If he has been there since Zexal, the real question is how does he know about SHS as those released in the beginning of Arc-V?
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
@@mohammadmurie This is the real question
@TheKuribandits
@TheKuribandits Жыл бұрын
How does a guy from 2014 know what Apollousa and Baronne are? Hope someone got fired for that blunder
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
Well he also knew about SHS and its viability in the Zexal era soo...
@GlacierMoonDragon
@GlacierMoonDragon Жыл бұрын
Instead of giving super heavy samurai negates, they made going into negates easier.
@KiuhKobold
@KiuhKobold Жыл бұрын
And third archetype death: when it stops being an archetype and becomes an engine.
@Rojo9149
@Rojo9149 Жыл бұрын
I think it's really funny that SHS has an uber consistent ftk one-two card combo (that even makes baronne) that SHS players just choose not to play cuz who wants to play an ftk deck
@ii-xz9ui
@ii-xz9ui Жыл бұрын
problem is that u have to commit ED space and that u gotta play some form of more bricks in your main, making the deck win-more and less potent in grindy situations
@elimenator20
@elimenator20 Жыл бұрын
I'm now making it lore that MBT is scared of the dark and that's why he didn't fully close the door in the intro
@dragonslayerbond
@dragonslayerbond Жыл бұрын
> Been in there since Zexal > Knows what Apollousa and Barrone are
@honeyham6788
@honeyham6788 Жыл бұрын
I was expecting him to dip his head out the door going "wait whats an Appolousa?"
@maxinesenior596
@maxinesenior596 Жыл бұрын
Playing neither exterio nor spell canceller?? Right on about the non engine though. I wouldn't really count fenrir or driver, cause you can't use them off of tunneler, but usually you can end with 3-5 handtraps in hand on top of your amazing endboard. I play 16 main, 3 droll 3 veiler 3 ogre 2 mourner, 3 nib, and 2 ash
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx Жыл бұрын
New SHS support pied piper is so enchanted, even the baronne horse follows the steam train
@ToxicAtom
@ToxicAtom Жыл бұрын
You could play a ton of non-engine, or you can just go balls deep on extenders and summon your entire extra deck
@TwitchTvQuagy
@TwitchTvQuagy Жыл бұрын
oh no the guy from clip "I'm In Your Clozeeet"
@blackknight1168
@blackknight1168 Жыл бұрын
As a superheavy samurai stan, your attempts at the heavy strong style are appreciated. However, due to treating the archetype as just a turbo for baronne and Apollo will be discredited as using SHS combo cards for this purpose is like running red-eyes dark dragoon in your typical deck that has dragoon as an extension and calling it a red eyes deck.
@UshiUshiKakuThe2nd
@UshiUshiKakuThe2nd Жыл бұрын
@14:53 This is not entirely true; OCG players were siding ASF, which is rarely going to end up in the GY.
@streetgamer3452
@streetgamer3452 Жыл бұрын
I like SHS, it was the deck that brought me back to Yugioh, I like this support because it made the deck good, I hate that it had to lose its essence to do that. I know if they tried hard enough they could’ve found a way to make the deck good without losing it’s essence but they took the easy way out instead by making it have generic engine cards that are hella abusable by other decks
@DaShikuXI
@DaShikuXI Жыл бұрын
At the very least Baronne is probably pretty heavy.
@AcroxShadow
@AcroxShadow Жыл бұрын
It's such a shame that this is how SHS finally makes its heavystrong appearance. Yet another example of the eternal issues created by overpowered generic boss monsters, and mediocre archetypal ones. That said, the situation isn't quite as dire as it might first appear. Sarutobi is still a nice card going first in some matchups, and you can still use their own bosses to end the game afterward. Monk Benkei's monster effect is pretty solid to give a Level 8 body and gives you a reason to play original Benkei, so playing an extra copy of him isn't bad. Going second the original strategy is better than ever with the new cards. The locks usually don't matter at all in this scenario, so you're free to use stuff you otherwise wouldn't, like Wakaushi's monster effect to summon a guy from deck, Thief is a free body that can remove and steal spells/traps/scales, Trumpeter's a free Tuner, Battleball is a Level 2 Tuner that can make synchros using the opponent's monsters in tandem with Jizukiru (searchable with Qliphort Genius). Stealthy and Susanowo's quick-effect spell/trap grave robbing might come up, as can Steam Train King's quick-effect mass spell/trap GY banish (particularly effective against Runick to stop them shuffling back and drawing), so keep them in mind too. Experiment and have fun with them while you can. There's a lot of space to work with, in Main, Extra AND Side, so try stuff out.
@aaa1e2r3
@aaa1e2r3 Жыл бұрын
My main criticism I have for this list you went with is you leaned way too much into non engine, a 2 of for the ghost girls, gamma and droll opens up a lot more placements for cards you can run here, in particular a Naturia Beast is surprisingly easy with spy + Gaia
@TheBreadbocks
@TheBreadbocks Жыл бұрын
Spy + wakaushi does not make Naturia beast. Please look at wakaushi's attribute.
@yettel8shrjriene922
@yettel8shrjriene922 Жыл бұрын
You cant make beast with wakaushi since wakaushi is a dark tuner, nat beast needs a earth tuner
@damiendristig2263
@damiendristig2263 Жыл бұрын
why would you run 2x of a card that wins you the game if you draw it? Droll is broken rn.
@yettel8shrjriene922
@yettel8shrjriene922 Жыл бұрын
Why would you play 2 gamma when there are so many handtraps viable in this meta? Especially when droll or ghost ogre can potentially end your turn?
@aaa1e2r3
@aaa1e2r3 Жыл бұрын
@TheBreadbocks my mistake, meant Spy + Gaia
@SquibbyJ
@SquibbyJ Жыл бұрын
This deck is that episode of SpongeBob where he becomes round.
@TheMarauderOfficial
@TheMarauderOfficial Жыл бұрын
50 seconds in best ten minute testing ever
@AbyssRuns
@AbyssRuns Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah, my favorite samurai...."benkai"
@yattyy
@yattyy Жыл бұрын
FYI, this video was added to the twitter playlist instead of the TMT playlist
@PNL1992
@PNL1992 Жыл бұрын
I admire your bookshelf. That’s all. That’s the comment.
@kaiwen1735
@kaiwen1735 Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. A monster only deck. I love it.
@wikiwikiwa
@wikiwikiwa Жыл бұрын
Me, playing the same SHS deck since 2016. Like hell I'm going to play SHS just to make appo and baronne, that's what my speedroid deck is for!
@magicalnewsmaneditsbumpers4374
@magicalnewsmaneditsbumpers4374 Жыл бұрын
MY FIRST DUEL LINKS DECK! (That was actually decent)
@Jeffet629
@Jeffet629 Жыл бұрын
Speedwagon reference earned my like
@hikaruyasha7849
@hikaruyasha7849 Жыл бұрын
These intros don’t miss
@TheIncinerator12
@TheIncinerator12 Жыл бұрын
been waiting for this
@slayerbane8941
@slayerbane8941 Жыл бұрын
Personally I enjoyed Superheavy when it wasn't meta cause for me it fun when used Battleball to Synchro with a Jizukiru into Steam Train King.
@garbagecan755
@garbagecan755 Жыл бұрын
Is that 3 different versions of Dune next to each other on the shelf or did you get 3 books in before realizing everything after the first one is... a Dune book after the first one?
@thecrimsoncreep6665
@thecrimsoncreep6665 Жыл бұрын
Bruh everybody's sleeping on the synchro monsters. Also man, if only MBT had more engine. If only there were more Superheavy monsters. Damn, that's crazy. It's almost as if there's a benefit to playing more Superheavies.
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer Жыл бұрын
Imagine if we got to live in a world where Konami stopped being a bunch of pricks and just got rid of all the knightmares, Savage/Barrone and Appolo.
@Xero-rr2ol
@Xero-rr2ol Жыл бұрын
and stopped making generic bosses
@dotreant5264
@dotreant5264 Жыл бұрын
i see xyz attack in every deck= silly zeus comes in
@Y0G0FU
@Y0G0FU Жыл бұрын
Well Konami wants to make money so they will do this every year.
@KuroeNezumi
@KuroeNezumi Жыл бұрын
Please make barone use machine tuners specifically. Makes it less generic but i can still eat 9s with maliciousmagnet to make it. Else there's no decent 10 wind synchro that's mildly generic and useful.
@waskithonugroho3955
@waskithonugroho3955 Жыл бұрын
but if those ED card aren't generic no want to use them and let say they are good for one or two archetype, meta will be filled by those deck anyway so tldr, in every way non meta player just gonna lose and cope?
@mimeco2
@mimeco2 Жыл бұрын
dang is that how people feel about dark world
@GranMaj
@GranMaj Жыл бұрын
So SHS became another generic Apo barone spam deck? I was hoping that the new support is leaning to its "Punch REALLY hard" playstyle with barely any interuption.
@KuroeNezumi
@KuroeNezumi Жыл бұрын
I mean, they have cards to do that with the new support, cute Synchros for that kind of stuff, and the new monsters are supposed to help both with field presence to make the synchros and some utility to cover a few holes. Unfortunately people noticed the lack or archetype locks on those cards and ended up with this style of deck building... because, you know, superheavy synchros barely have any versatility to actually compete with modern day bullshit.
@GranMaj
@GranMaj Жыл бұрын
@@KuroeNezumi THATS why i don't understand why Konami refuse to slap archetype locks to legacy support. There will be a point in the future where every decks can make apo barone and at that point, why even bother playing variety deck when the end board is the same.
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't have been meta then
@GranMaj
@GranMaj Жыл бұрын
@@Honest_Mids_Masher then the support should make OLDER deck more resilient towards interuption. Make a support busted as shit but made it archetype lock. That's what Support suppose to do. Not make the deck less interesting than before. This is halqifibrax all over again.
@pretsel5132
@pretsel5132 Жыл бұрын
​@@GranMaj "refuse to slap archetype locks" wakaushi has an archetype lock
@perfectiondreamusa
@perfectiondreamusa Жыл бұрын
“i made a new deck” “new deck konami or appalousa and baronne?” “….appalousa and baronne”
@WhoIsSirChasm
@WhoIsSirChasm Жыл бұрын
There is no greater tragedy than knowing, in a world where Gold Pride is rogue, Superheavy Samurai does not join them in regards to BALLER.
@FilthyWeeb27
@FilthyWeeb27 Жыл бұрын
Against kashtira after ghost ogre on the baronne, was every superheavy samurai soul card banished? Wondering why not benkei for the soulpiercer
@antondolhain369
@antondolhain369 Жыл бұрын
A guy at locals plays this deck and he plays spell canceler and jinzo. Those end boards are insane
@DrAiPatch
@DrAiPatch Жыл бұрын
You either die as unplayable or live long enough to become meta.😢
@CC_Th1rst
@CC_Th1rst Жыл бұрын
Question: "What does the deck do now?" Answer: Anything you want it to.
@-clod-8948
@-clod-8948 Жыл бұрын
u shouldve played the farfa coocoo sound for when the banlist page updates when u looked to the top left
@Mrmotivationalone
@Mrmotivationalone Жыл бұрын
We aren't doing the Pachy lockdown package?
@cellsdup7748
@cellsdup7748 Жыл бұрын
I think the synchro cat version is better, but good vid ty
@mateusrp1994
@mateusrp1994 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, everyone whining that Konami made the deck lose its identity looks silly to me. The deck is even more capable of doing its old plays and ending on big guys attacking in defense position. Only a single oversight made this monstrosity of old Earth Machine enablers and generic negates possible, Wakaushi's archetype lock not being on the Pendulum Scale effect as well. Hell, they were halfway there, it DOES have an archetype lock, it just doesn't have enough of them.
@melissamiranti4858
@melissamiranti4858 Жыл бұрын
Did you just gloss right over that Santa Claws in Game 4?
@Ragnarok540
@Ragnarok540 Жыл бұрын
When people discover there's a Kaiju that can be summoned in defense position...
@melissamiranti4858
@melissamiranti4858 Жыл бұрын
@@Ragnarok540 And a festive one at that!
@moxxie1356
@moxxie1356 Жыл бұрын
Me*hears what they did to my super heavy samurai’s MBT*leave* Me:me too mbt….me too…..
@Populon993
@Populon993 Жыл бұрын
When this comes to Master Duel I'll happily ignore this toolbox aspect and try to build a blind 2nd unga bunga "big metal man punch" deck that's a bit more consistent than before, like it's supposed to be.
@Ashendal
@Ashendal Жыл бұрын
Same. I'm already running it as either Battleball into Train+Horns OTK if they bricked or the more grindy version with Ogre to clear backrow and Beast/Benkei to clean up monsters, so the new support is just going to make that easier to do.
@katzuma7641
@katzuma7641 Жыл бұрын
1:50 that sounded way more sexual than it needed to be lol
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