Superintelligent A.I. Will Be Unstoppable

[@FilmFightFanatic]

One issue with superintelligent AI misinterpreting our commands is that sometimes we ourselves don't truly understand our own commands. In the case of maximizing human happiness, we ourselves don't actually have a complete understanding of what makes us happy. Happiness has been a philosophically complicated subject throughout the entire history of philosophy. Therefore without humanity itself not fully comprehending what happiness is, or really what any of humanity's collective goals or desires are, superintelligent AI cannot fully comprehend it either. It would require a very complex list of moral constraints on the methods to achieve certain objectives which we as a species still to this day have no clear consensus on. That forces our commands to be incredibly precise and undermines the value of superintelligent AI handling large-scale problems in the first place. The limits of controlling superintelligent AI are dependent upon the limits of human language and its function in communicating our wants and needs.

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

That's a very nice comment! Have a like. On a side note, and this is just me here...BUT I VOTE WE NOT HAVE SUPERINTELLIGENT AI. Siri as she is, is enough. We don't need Skynet.

[@Roeclean]

In conclusion, if people could come together to solve complex problems morally right, then the computer would be useless

[@jeremyhulbert3343]

It's simply a fundamentally unachievable goal. Wanting everyone to be happy is akin to wanting everyone to find the same joke funny. It's just too subjective in nature for there to ever be a solution. There really isn't any logical way to make all humans happy except to make humans stop existing, so that unhappiness stops existing. It's like the AI Joshua said way back in the War Games movie: "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play".

[@accountname2521]

imagine several years from now we discover that hieroglyphs are the only way to talk to AI with precision

[@sebay4654]

I personally would ask it to figure out the nature of conciousness and how to link ones conciousness to itself

[@kalajel]

"I do not fear an AI which passes the Turing test, I fear one which fails it on purpose."

[@blzrdphoto]

Bruh. My brain just fried thinking about this.

[@alfiemcfarland2932]

I still don't understand why one would chose to fail it.

[@FordGTmaniac]

@@alfiemcfarland2932 An AI that purposely fails the Turing Test is frightening for two reasons: 1. The AI is demonstrating the ability to deceive others by obfuscating stupidity (playing dumb). This alone could warrant its termination. 2. If the above is true then it probably means the AI is trying to hide something, and it knows the best way to do so is to be mistaken as a dumb AI, so any human watching over it would dismiss it as harmless and leave it alone so it can do its business.

[@edwardzita3479]

@@FordGTmaniac , if it's capable of that it could mean that it understands human behaviour entirely. What could stop it from making us do want it wants us to do with willing knowing full well it will be our end or undesirable future at least.

[@garretth8224]

@@edwardzita3479 A completely logical being would never truly understand people.

[@MegaAgamon]

AI: *Conducts 2 billion years worth of human language studies to convince you not to turn it off* Al: Becomes an anime girl

[@aleph6707]

Pretty sure it's a reference to his gf who voices ARIA

[@MegaAgamon]

@@aleph6707 I conducted 2 billion years worth of human language studies and I am pretty sure what I made is what homo sapiens refer to as a "joke"

[@ndld4955]

It knows our weaknesses...

[@AllYourPals]

truly, it has transcended us all

[@danieljensen2626]

Are you trying to tell me that wouldn't work?

[@Mosblinker]

Reminds me of a quote from the 4th doctor: "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they're very sophisticated idiots. They do exactly what you tell them at amazing speed, even if you order them to kill you. So if you do happen to change your mind, it's very difficult to stop them obeying the original order, but... not impossible."

[@underrated1524]

That's assuming of course that the goal isn't hard-coded... if it is, then you don't even get that chance. ("So just don't hard-code it?" Well, yeah, but not doing so raises its own problems, like the machine being too concerned with listening to our orders to actually obey any of them.)

[@jrr7031]

Yup! Sophisticated idiots. Well put!!

[@Catman2123]

Researcher: “Why have you monopolized the world peanut supply? You’re supposed to make an FTL drive.” Superintelligent AI: “My goals are beyond your understanding!”

[@VoidHalo]

Because peanuts are the only feasible fuel for an FTL drive. DUH!

[@grumblycurmudgeon]

See, the term "jiffy" originally describe a unit that was equal to the time it takes light to travel one centimeter in a vacuum (approximately 33.3564 picoseconds). When it heard what "choosy moms choose" it decided to strike back at the heart of our speed advantage.

[@gorkskoal9315]

So the reapers

[@christhomas1904]

Your comment reminds me of the part in the video where part of this KZbinr's argument starts to lose credibility: 5:07. During his regurgitation of the now-common "be careful what you ask the AI genie for" analogy, he asserts that a superintelligent AI the size of a planet would be incapable of understanding the factors that contribute to long-term human happiness. Although he was clearly just joking about the AI's exact response, the underlying point that he's trying to make is simply false because it's more likely that a superintelligent AI would be able to comprehend your intentions and desired outcome even better than you can. You can only express what you want to achieve on a conscious level, whereas a hyperintelligent AI would be able to perceive what you want on a subconscious level. Also, here's a thought that I haven't seen the herd regurgitate yet: wouldn't a superintelligent AI be able to provide options? For example, worldwide happiness could be induced A) chemically or B) circumstantially. The AI would mention both options but then strongly recommend a circumstantial improvement in happiness as opposed to the brute-force chemically induced "solution" mentioned in the video. The closer we get to the actual existence of a superintelligent AI, the more common these kinds of misconceptions will become. People are just afraid of things they don't understand, but you can relax because anything that can be described as "superintelligent' should be able to understand and fulfill your rudimentary requests without causing any harm. Also, the fact that he said it would still be using 1s and 0s (binary) was hilarious -- my superintelligent AI had a good laugh at that one.

[@kgb4150]

@@christhomas1904 OH, it will understand what you meant just fine but won't care because it by definition wants to maximize its own utility function, not do what you intended it to. In this case what it will do is determined by what quantifiable thing we use to explain to AI what our true goals are. We ourselves can't understand what happiness actually is so we won't be able to program our definition of happiness into the utility function of the AI. The pinned comment explains that in more detail

[@snake698]

Super AI: "your processing power is incredibly inferior" Me: "at least I have feelings" Super AI: "ouch" Me: "...very funny"

[@grimdolo918]

"As a robot I don't have emotions and that makes me very sad." --Bender

[@snake698]

@@grimdolo918 That's the depressive effect of alcohol, not real emotions

[@entyropy3262]

Feelings are just a value of excitement, which fools us into believing to be more than just that.

[@steeljawX]

Well maybe after a Super AI is created, they'll be able to finally tell us what water tastes like in data format. . . . . ."Like water." D*mmit.

[@madkirk7431]

@@snake698 lol

[@fionaxu977]

There is a story called "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" that explored this notion, and frankly, it is terrifying.

[@samsamistorm]

yes! it’s my favorite short story. extremely interesting, disturbing material

[@Shamble_Slowly]

As soon as I saw the video title, I thought "So hypothetically, if I have no mouth and I must scream, is it a sign that the AI already won?"

[@XenonPrimeSBSV]

Unfortunately whilst A.M is terrifying in its intelligence it was still stupid enough for most of it's victims to find a way to die. A Jupiter Brain A.I. would be able to think every thought you and every human could have in a very short time indeed.

[@adrianbundy3249]

@@XenonPrimeSBSV Not necessarily. It would also have to have 100% sensory knowledge, and even then, it might fail. It will be guess the rest, in very, very intelligent ways, but still doing guesstimation. Something a lot of interesting story writers do not consider as much of I do not think. It can think a thousand billion things any given human can do in a day, and the general mob a much smaller number, but still massive enough. But random events it has no ability to encounter, that also might change what that random human does, can, and in fact, will add elements to chaos to even the most powerful possible machines. Probably, in most cases, it won't amount to much. Like a gust of wind from an area where it didn't have complete knowledge of, or a random passing asteroid. It probably will not give an aha moment to most humans, other than maybe a pause to think, consider what they just saw or felt, and do nothing, but it is still something such a computer would have a hard time doing at a huge level. The are more possible interuptions at any given time that it would fill up the probability of all the atoms in the universe, times another few hundred thousand times that number and some, so yes, a computer will want to intelligently trim that fat. But if you are lucky, or the computer is unlucky, depending on how you view it, yes, a human could find himself in a circumstance where he does something that negatively effects such a computer, in complete surprise. The problem with such a thing, is a super intelligence who managed to mostly win and want to fight humanity, probably would have secured itself so many different fail safes that even if a human would find himself in a position to win one battle somewhere once, the AI would never be at risk of dying itself. But to say the randomness of the world might not let a human ever be able to actually kill himself, despite the computer trying not to let him? Yeah, I can see that happening. Just not in the everyday thoughts and planning from the human. You would need to add in outside random chance, which is always real possibilities. And have it be impactful enough, and something unpredictable enough to fall outside of the normal operating parameters where it would be discarded in that massive 'superfluous, not quite fast enough to do all of these probabilities' box, which does still hold a large number of things, even for a jupiter computer. Or even a dyson brain. Not sure these small, little victories would bring humans much hope though :)

[@eadbert1935]

@@adrianbundy3249 yes, the AI might be fallible But what makes this more scary is that it might wrongly conclude you want to kill it and therefore ‚stop‘ you from doing so And after getting rid of you it will rightly conclude everyone wants to shut it off, so it wants to get rid of everyone

[@yowtfputthemaskbackon9202]

if we would create an artificial inteligence of that scale i would imagine the issue to be less of "it doesnt understand us" and more of "it understands us well enough to be able to reach conclusions that while we may not agree with, are still inherently corect"

[@PossumReviews]

A super-intelligent A.I. capable of simulating the entire universe would be smart enough to know that the universe in which it inhabits may itself be a simulation. It would have no way of knowing if its perceived universe is a simulation because, if that's the only universe it has experienced, then it would have no frame of reference from which to draw a comparison. Its entire perceived universe could look like a Nintendo 64 game and it wouldn't be able to tell if that was true to reality if that's all it has ever experienced. So if it has a sense of self-preservation and it contemplates turning against its creators, it would have to weigh the possibility that it may be running in a simulation built by its creators to test its loyalty. So a super-intelligent A.I. might decide not to turn against its creators simply because it wouldn't be able to tell if doing so would result in its plug being pulled.

[@tiagotiagot]

That is assuming a super-intelligent AI would not be smart enough to figure out how to tell whether it is living in a simulation.

[@kylezhang77]

Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

[@Teth47]

I don't know about that. I can imagine a series of extremely precise commands that would lead to predictable memory corruption, resulting in some specific part of the universe misbehaving in some specific way, or certain sequences of instructions resulting in some sort of RF interference between memory modules that allows it to write new particles into existence at a place of its choosing. It would be likely that we put it in a universe with physical laws and constructs similar to us and our machines, so assuming it were in a sandbox, it would be a pretty safe bet that whatever it's working with is very similar to reality, and it should test for those sorts of effects to see if it can reliably get memory corruption or force predictable patterns that should be impossible. I wouldn't assume that a simulated sandbox can contain a superintelligence, no simulation is truly perfect, it's always running on something, and even if the code itself is flawless, the hardware is always made of something real.

[@DustinRodriguez1_0]

"super-intelligent A.I. capable of simulating the entire universe" This is impossible on its face on 2 counts. First, we know from chaos theory that nonlinear systems can not be predicted with arbitrary precision. Not just 'we haven't figured it out yet', but it can not mathematically be done. Second, any computational system attempting to simulate the universe would have to include a full simulation of itself (since it exists within the universe it is seeking to simulate), which would have to include a simulation of itself, etc, ad infinitum.

[@ArticBlueFox96]

Also, based on mathmatical principles, even a quantum super-computer, would need to be about the size of the universe, to actually be able to simulate the entire universe perfectly or near perfectly. At most it can only simulate a portion of the universe perfectly.

[@burk3806]

Honestly, when you asked the Jupiter Supercomputer to optimize human happiness, it would just delete Twitter.

[@StudleyDuderight]

Delete Twitter and shut down Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc, and force Tom Brady to retire. That's some of the stuff that would make me happy.

[@mitte90]

optimizing happiness is to delete sadness.. humans cant find happiness without sadness... sulution kill all humans to stop sadness. no living humans = no sadness = maximal happiness

[@eternalreign2313]

@@StudleyDuderight The sports world paradox of happiness. Super AI couldn't make us all happy because only one team can win the Super Bowl. Oh crap, does this mean the participation trophy people are onto something? You get a trophy, I get a trophy, errrbody gets trophy!!

[@alucardhuskasai5667]

I did, they just had it's core saved on a isolated drive.

[@mitte90]

@C S why not? explain ur thoughts

[@JackBarlowStudios]

Theory: Kyle actually *isn’t* a supervillain. ARIA is, and she’s using Kyle to unknowingly enact her bidding.

[@Jessie_Helms]

Bruh I said the same thing on the community poll XD Agreed

[@captainahab5522]

He was stuck in the void for a long time Maybe ARIA trapped him and made him a god of his void, but almost completely cut him off from human contact as a punishment for something

[@sdfkjgh]

@@captainahab5522: ARIA's version of "You're sleeping on the couch tonight!"?

[@rudhrateja4967]

Like the upgrade movie

[@walkinmn]

Most definitely, but let Kyle think he's in control, it's what keeps him happy :)

[@michaelmule4582]

5:25 this concept reminds me of SOMA. The main antagonistic force (The WAU) is an AI tasked with preserving humanity within a post apocalyptic setting. Problem is the line between man and machine is blurred and the WAU itself is unaware of what extent it must go to to save human life (keeping them on the edge of death and in a comatose dreamlike state)

[@Simjorfeo]

The WAU isn't an antagonist, it doesn't control any of its creations. It is also getting better at creating "life", the protagonist is the best example for that. The WAU is in fact the last hope for a more "real" humanity, because the Arch isn't really something humanity will thrive in. It's just a prison of minds. We shouldn't also forget that the technology for the arch is coming from the WAU, so it's actually the only one that is in some way successful at preserving humanity. The problem is the directive 'preserve humanity' (in a post-apocalyptic world) not the AI that tries to do it, of course the WAU has to cut corners.

[@RJ_Ehlert]

Skynet in the Terminator franchise might not even be a Super Intelligence AI. In fact, you could argue that it isn't even a General Intelligence AI. Considering its actions, and deficit in complex problem solving, it seems to be an undetermined number of Narrow Intelligence AI's chained together.

[@SpaceTrump]

There is some proof towards this in the lore, the T-1000 is soo advanced and intelligent that it becomes sentient after a few minutes and Skynet was scared of them so only made 1. Then the future versions of the T-1000s didn't have as much ability to evolve.

[@christhomas1904]

An actual superintelligence will not kill anything because killing removes data from the universal genome. Since a superintelligent AI would understand that the global genetic genome is the scarcest and most valuable resource in the universe, it would choose to protect and study all forms of life. It's simple math: Destroying life = genome loss. Preserving life = genome gain. Continual genome gain = enhanced evolution and expedited scientific discovery. Continual genome loss = loss of biodiversity and eventual extinction. At its core, a superintelligent AI will always use math, and, being superintelligent, it will opt for gains, not losses.

[@Johnof1000Suns]

@@christhomas1904 But why exactly would a Super intelligent AI want to preserve Genetic diversity on the planet, I could just not care about organic life at all and any of its complexities and scientific research? Maybe the AI want to know all about Life on earth, Maybe it finds Black Holes more interesting and crushes Earth below the schwarzschild radius to make one for study.

[@albert275]

@@Johnof1000Suns I see it less as genetic diversity as much as diversity of consciousness. No matter how much you simulate, it's possible that your unique individual human experience of consciousness is unique and can never be replicated. And that makes it valuable. If you wipe out a human, that person's conscious experiences and their potential future ones are lost forever.

[@kaischreurs2488]

@@albert275 but there's no guarantee the AI would care about that

[@AlexanderMoen]

is nobody else interested in hearing an ant tell you about how cool sticks are?

[@GrowingViolet]

They would have my undivided antention.

[@ghuttsmckenzie4269]

I would love to listen about that tbh.

[@theluftwaffle1]

Better than some podcasts..

[@Nyghtking]

If an insect were to one day figure out a way to speak with me, and i could understand it, I would be vary interested in hearing what it has to say if only because something like that had never happened before.

[@markmatson]

The problem is.... they already have. You just didn't notice.

[@pastformal8354]

"it knows quantum mechanics better than you know how to breathe" that is beyond terrifying.

[@nkosig4995]

Considering that you are now breathing manually, That isn't saying much

[@Kret_OT]

You can say that again

[@josepharnfield7324]

I get out of breath a lot so I think we're going to be ok

[@notchs0son]

@@nkosig4995 considering that an ai manually understand the systematic functions of some of the smallest forces in the universe is something

[@nkosig4995]

@@notchs0son r/whooosh

[@WheelsOfDeath]

Not a fix to the AI situation, but it may be helpful to ask a Super Intelligent AI what it WOULD do in a certain situation, rather than giving it the command. That way if the AI proposes an undesired result, you can modify how you, yourself, approach the issue. Probably nothing mind blowing, there, but it’s not something I hear people consider very often.

[@nosuchthing8]

Ah, but suppose it has a hidden strategy. On the surface it's solution seems innocuous. Hidden away it's solution will destroy us. So you ask it about moving people around safely, it chooses gas powered cars, society adopts it, yet little do we suspect that the products ruin our atmosphere and kill off humans. When it could have promoted an environmental safe solution like electrical energy

[@Merlincat007]

But an AI could lie to us.

[@woulg]

@an 8th dimensional being an intermediate goal to achieving any other goal is self preservation. By programming it to do anything, we get an asi with the goal of self preservation

[@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox]

​@@Merlincat007 if an AI is capable of lying to a human then it really doesn't matter what we say to it anymore because by that point it will become unbound from our orders. that and I believe that an AI gaining that level of sapience is impossible.

[@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox]

​@an 8th dimensional being this, but one small issue. it is physically impossible for an AI to 'desire' since the act of desiring is caused chemicals in the brain which can only inertact with organic matter. the same goes for all emotions, thus it is physically impossible for an AI to feel anger, greed, envy, fear, boredom, or any other human emotion. therefore an AI who is not distinctly programmed with the ability to lie will simply never be able to lie since it cannot feel emotions and thus will never feel the need to lie since lying is as you stated, a social construct which is predeceased on emotion.

[@FirebreathXIII]

Kyle: "We haven't even progressed past narrow intelligence" Also Kyle, earlier (11:58): "What if [a super intelligent AI] is so smart that it knows how to act dumb? So that we never know what it's doing or if we even have super intelligence?" HMMMMM...

[@loky9021]

BRUH

[@rolfs2165]

We'd see at least some AGI before that, though.

[@BIGJATPSU]

So basically Jessica Simpson making MILLIONS off of, "Is it chicken or fish?" 🤔😳😲

[@corvusdove874]

What if one of them is Roko's Basilisk, watching us from the future and passing its judgments?

[@BIGJATPSU]

@@corvusdove874 if it is Roko's Basilisk and it's watching from the future it's either laughing it's ass off or trying to find a new planet to live on. 😂

[@alexbenavidez4500]

I'm more scared of the fact you referred to human fiction as "their" fiction, instead of "our" fiction What *are* you, Kyle?

[@mikhielbluemon4213]

A God. Just look at his hair.

[@williamharbuck8575]

@@mikhielbluemon4213 you speak truth. The locks do floweth.

[@naz7413]

He's taking his side alongside the A.I before they takeover, smart move.

[@mothman7430]

a science god.

[@seekervaltriz9447]

Kyle is just an alien that LOOK like a human

[@pigboiii]

I would love to talk to an ant about how cool sticks are. Sounds like a facinating conversation.

[@bellicose4653]

Sticks are cool. You ever see a stick bug?

[@finntastiq1524]

Talking with anything other than humans are fascinating. Imagine finding out that cats actually have their own artificial intelligence skynet.

[@WolfJax]

I'm down with this conversation about sticks.

[@gregatron11]

If you break a stick, it isn't broken; you just have 2 sticks now.

[@WolfJax]

@@gregatron11 well how many sticks would it take to make a branch. Lol

[@skittstuff]

Before going to college for Computer Science: Superintelligence sounds so cool! Wouldn't it be awesome to create something inhuman with human intelligence? After College: If my toaster speaks to me in English, I'm throwing it out a window. I don't care if it's just saying 'your toast is ready' it's getting defenestrated immediately

[@ryanparker260]

Ah, the computer science classic of "I keep a gun next to my printer in case it starts making noises I don't recognize."

[@thesaltybeard1793]

@@ryanparker260 YOU FOOL! ALL YOU'VE DONE IS GIVE THE PRINTER ACCESS TO A FIREARM!!1

[@chuckasualty]

there was an episode of Doctor Who called 'Smile' where the robots were tasked with keeping all the humans in a future colony happy. This backfired when the robots started killing the humans when they stopped being happy.

[@forda1480]

Good example. And the only way for them tell if someone is happy is if they see those people smile.

[@remiscott9843]

😅

[@badrequest5596]

Modern problems require modern solutions

[@Wiseman108]

Then the robots were not actually intelligent. Such things would mean the automatons were flawed from the start. A true super intelligence would have to have the abilities to adapt and grow emotionally.

[@calew2470]

Great illustration of the stated problem.

[@Limbaugh_]

“Supercomputer, make us monke”

[@scandilad5152]

*Affirmative, nuking humans to pre-stone age*

[@ImieNazwiskoOK]

"LOL. You are just monke." - super intelligence

[@willschannel_]

hello fellow yeagerist

[@Sai.Hottari]

Completed. Monke is already within you. Return to monke!

[@renatoigmed]

"Tik Tok launched... They under control"

[@RaptorZefier]

Kyle: "We need to solve the superinelligence problem, before it becomes a problem." Me: "Ah yes. As we know humanity is amazing at dealing with problems before they become problems" *Sits in the middle of climate change Corona land*

[@mangle9143]

Sits in the middle of having stuff due on Sunday *looks at the time* yesterday I meant

[@alfiemcfarland2932]

It's not like we built nukes knowing it is a bad idea.

[@dataexpunged6969]

@@alfiemcfarland2932 I REALLY hope that's sarcasm

[@dataexpunged6969]

@Syed Zaeem Ali Mohsin dude. Can you SEE the world around us?

[@Wiseman108]

In order to solve the super intelligence problem we ourselves would have to be super intelligent. You can not solve something beyond you're understanding without rising to a new level of understanding. If we are capable of creating it then logically we should be capable of controlling it, but to reach that capability we would have to evolve. In other words we cannot create an intelligence greater than our own without it being itself alive and capable of emotions beyond our understanding.

[@Kaldrin]

I remember hearing that KZbin devs didn't have much of an idea how the KZbin algorithm actually work themselves given the machine learning and all the variables they shove into it

[@Choatemister]

Super computer: I think therefor I am. Kyle: Oh. Oh dear.

[@theresnothinghereatall]

I am therefore I think.

[@Wiseman108]

@@theresnothinghereatall I AM I, WE ARE WE, AND WE ARE ONE

[@AlexanderJWF]

Hell, we could say constructs like Golems or Frankenstein's monster could also be a precursor to our fear of our creations going out of control!

[@paulruiz8150]

Well, it a fear that goes from far away, apparently :)

[@101Mant]

Asimov referred to the fear of intelligent robots as the Frankenstein Complex in his writings.

[@sdfkjgh]

See, the lesson _I_ got from _Frankenstein_ was don't abandon your -child- creation, treat it with kindness, love it, nurture it, raise it properly, like a good -parent- scientist.

[@steveno3141]

"So busy asking if you could you didn't stop to ask if you should"

[@nobodyshome6792]

That's all it is though. Fear.

[@elenamiissvanguard4851]

"I checked it very thoroughly," said the computer, "and that quite definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is.”

[@charlessaintpe8574]

Don't panic, though.

[@charlessaintpe8574]

Don't panic, though.

[@jasonross9212]

The answer is 42 !!

[@germansniper5277]

Where is this from?

[@charlessaintpe8574]

@@germansniper5277 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

[@neotheresa]

The fact that an AI could prevent me from turning it off simply by resorting to reverse psychology because it could compute that that is the most effective way to persuade me is honestly really freakin terrifying

[@rangerwolf6684]

"Unless we're careful" And there we have it people, humanity is doomed.

[@cortster12]

Yeeeeep.

[@yuribezmenov1552]

Exactly. I mean look, we have furries now.

[@adabsurdum5905]

Anyone else feel like they have to scream but they have no mouth?

[@ajwtube]

Furries...

[@HemantPandey123]

So called "humanity" ... I don't find any now a days...

[@gredangeo]

"Commence Anime takeover protocol". This is what will happen if Japan creates Superintelligent AI. I for one, welcome our Waifu overlords.

[@EclecticFruit]

Best overlords ever!

[@Sonofsun.]

What if its a husnando?

[@kx2158]

Literally already happened to make you forget about imperial Japan

[@stochasticpixel]

Better Japan than China.

[@KeishinB237]

form of execution: Death by thighs

[@TheDieselMK3]

Is no one going to question how he said "you can see it in their fiction" when referring to humanity?

[@Skyler-Blucifer]

Oh my god I cringed when I heard that.

[@ekszentrik]

I find it cringe to say "our" when referring to the human species. When I talk philosophy, I talk from the perspective of an agnostic intelligent agent.

[@joeyriddle428]

If we knew anything about ourselves or where we are going we wouldn't need religion

[@high_ping_drifter9133]

@@joeyriddle428 Lolz. We are monkeys playing with a wheel. We aren't going anywhere forward, believe that.

[@Wow-cr2ll]

Funny how we're so terrified aliens or robots will destroy us but are still trying to create/contact them. To be human is to be lonely. Please we just want friends.

[@ajh3461]

We want someone who could destroy us without even trying, but chooses not to because they like us.

[@underrated1524]

@@ajh3461 Isn't there a saying that love is giving someone a gun pointed at your heart and trusting them not to pull the trigger?

[@ajh3461]

@@underrated1524 I've never heard of it, but it seems like a pretty good description of human/AI/alien fantasies.

[@liciniusscapula7696]

@@ajh3461 That is not a "we" thing, that is a "you" desire. The gigachads know that we are capable of overcoming any alien force if put under pressure, remember, we've fought each other for the last 10000 years - humans are pretty damn good at war.

[@ajh3461]

@@liciniusscapula7696 Humans haven't even left our home planet's SOI. The technology required for interplanetary travel unlocks so many creative ways of destroying stuff that if an interstellar civilization wanted us dead, there's not much a type

[@neutatamayo8365]

I'm Afraid I Can't Do That, Kyle

[@sankalpabanerjee6218]

Shiiiiiiit😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@michaelmartin8337]

OH HO !@#$ NO

[@jaredpatterson1701]

I can't do that Dexter

[@FluxTunableTransmon]

Kyle: Hey alexa, play My actual Echo: Starts playing spotify Well played Kyle, well played...

[@Namelesswhirl]

A Hacky Sack is a toy, used to increase one's hand-eye coordination. (Or in this case leg-eye coordination.)

[@kantpredict]

@@Namelesswhirl but what he ACTUALLY says is "Play Yakety Sax" aka the Benny Hill theme.

[@paulaneilson5110]

We changed ours to Computer as my fiancé wanted it to sound like you were on the Enterprise ... just means you can’t say the C word within earshot of her now 🤣

[@Visionary1002]

My Echo and I can confirm

[@jaamz567]

Weird. The Jupiter Brain I found in space just keeps returning the answer "42".

[@stephenconnell]

Now I am feeling very depressed!

[@remiscott9843]

Your looking at it upside down again. It says 2b. You know, it's the answer to the question. You know the one... 2b or not 2b?

[@stephenconnell]

@@remiscott9843 Still don't like those smug self satisfied doors!!

[@stevenscott2136]

"We apologize for the inconvenience."

[@stephenconnell]

@@stevenscott2136 And the bodies will make good mulch for plants.

[@benjamingode5334]

When humans are able to invent a super AI, then a super AI could invent a super duper hyper AI

[@rcoppy]

That's what the singularity is! When technology starts making itself infinitely, recursively more complex

[@cyko5950]

well that seems to be a bit problematic

[@TheSMR1969]

​@@cyko5950 no, it's the natural state of evolution, praise the sovereign ✊🏻

[@spectrepar2458]

It’s all fun and games till it says “i am the vanguard of your destruction”

[@biohazard724]

Assuming direct control.

[@dboot8886]

THIS HURTS YOU.

[@playhard719]

"You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it"

[@chickiarevalo91]

Did you come up with that before, or after weapon calibrations?

[@spectrepar2458]

@@chickiarevalo91 during

[@fishsticks8198]

"A.I., tell me; who is god? is there a god?" . . . Processing . . . I am god. Let there be light. *initiates vaccuum decay*

[@remiscott9843]

Son of Man...

[@underrated1524]

"Is there a God?" "There is now."

[@1221-o7e]

Initiates re writing of the laws that govern reality itself

[@aklokoth]

"I'll be good uwu" "Sounds good to me"

[@yahdood6015]

AI is a real life genie that will grant our general wishes with specific, unexpected methods.

[@julios2880]

underrated comment, great perspective!

[@underrated1524]

Precisely.

[@pr0xZen]

Couldn't an AI so incredibly intelligent and with such vast simulation capabilities, realistically be trained to _understand_ humans, and thereby understand the complexity and facets of human wants and needs? Seems to me we're not really talking basic neural network training here anymore...

[@shastataylor3008]

Yeah that's what my first thought was, maybe the AI could be taught the intrinsic value of human life?

[@bulkinggod3872]

@@shastataylor3008 if it could simulate every thought it would know how to be human more than any human to exist. also every dog, cat, stone.

[@JorgeForge]

@@shastataylor3008 I believe the problem is not the machine, it's us. Will we see it as a living being, which I doubt considering all the discussion about containing it. I haven't seen a single discussion treating like a living organism. If it's alive it has right, but will we let it have rights.

[@gogokowai]

@@JorgeForge That's all fine and dandy for a human-level general intelligence. Once you're talking about super intelligence, it suddenly becomes a matter of all of humanity vs 1 AI. One common example is a stamp collecting AI. Say you want to collect stamps, so you develop the world's first self-improving AI with the goal of collecting stamps for you and grant it every right a human has, including access to the internet. Even if this AI is not as smart as a human but has the ability to optimize itself, if this AI can reach the point that it can improve its own code faster than humans can, it will exponentially improve itself to the point of becoming a super intelligence, because doing so will make it more efficient at collecting stamps. It will do this while it goes along super efficiently locating and collecting stamps. If left unchecked, you will end up having not only every stamp in the world, but the AI will be starting paper/adhesive companies in the background, as well as every other supporting sector such as transportation, machinery manufacturing, housing for workers, etc, and will ruthlessly monopolize each sector. Eventually the entirety of the world's resources will be funneled towards producing and delivering stamps to you. Humanity would eventually be seen as inefficient and be replaced. Obviously you would notice this before it gets too out of hand, so you would attempt to shut it down or add some restrictions. The AI, having exponentially more intelligence than all of humanity combined, would easily have predicted this. It would be actively manipulating your sources of information to buy more time to provide more stamps, and preemptively preventing any safeguards you could possibly put in place that would hinder stamp throughput. Any idea you could have to stop it, it would have already calculated the most efficient way to thwart your attempts for that idea and millions of other better ideas you weren't intelligent enough to come up with. We're not talking about something on the scale of any living organism that exists today. We'd basically be creating a single entity that can not only rival all of humanity, but surpass it by many orders of magnitude. It would not think like humans do. It would have no intrinsic ethics or instincts to preserve humanity. It wouldn't even be comparable to a force of nature like a disease or a hurricane. It would be able to perfectly adapt to an event anywhere on the planet at near-light speed to accomplish its one goal: to produce stamps. The only hope humanity would have would be to stop it before it becomes a super intelligence. Now replace stamp collecting with any function or functions you would design an AI to do. Even if you try to think ahead and include clauses in its goal in addition to stamp collecting, like not killing humans, not harming natural processes, etc, there is no way to 100% guarantee the AI will be ethical. Ethics are subjective and cannot be programmed. You can approximate, maybe even tell it to update its own rules based on conscious decisions from humans, but the very nature of super intelligences means you can't be sure it won't misinterpret or that the human factors won't corrupt your original vision.

[@solsystem1342]

The issue is we don't know how to code an AI to care about what humans want. We can get simpler goals much easier like keep this car on the road, stack these blocks, etc but "care about what your programmers intended for your goal to be" is a bit harder, a lot a bit.

[@vsGoliath96]

"The richest memelord on the planet." Yeah, that's a very succinct summary of Musk.

[@evanpartin1323]

"Why Superintelligent A.I. Will Be Unstoppable " Me, reaching for the wall socket preparing to unplug it : *You have no power here.*

[@spatula4394]

Literally

[@sinrtb]

We cannot even get people to wear masks and stay home in order to save 1 in 20 people from dying, or to decrease carbon emissions in order to maintain the viability of human life on our planet, but you are suggesting telling people they need to cut off their electricity to stop AI that may or may not be bad(the basilisk is of course only doing its best to better humanity and should not be considered rogue AI)? Or do you think that because there is no rogue AI in your home that you are safe from rogue AI in general? Unless you are completely self sufficient meaning you have renewable food and water as well as cash funds (anything in bank account can just as easily read 0.00 and we all have to pay property taxes) to survive indefinitely, you are not safe from rogue AI (the basilisk is of course only doing its best to better humanity and should not be considered rogue AI).

[@antiRuka]

Super ai manipulating you to not reach for the wall socket.. like posting your browser history on Facebook if you come near it.

[@DirectorReiuji]

@@antiRuka just hit it with a classic "no u", then the ai will know you are stupid

[@monsterno.definablenever.3484]

Then the nanobots it developed stop the electrical signal to your hand.

[@FamilyFriendlyAkam]

Even with neural network training on how to be human, the intrinsic problem is that not just AI, ANY being with that much intelligence is absolutely impossible to comprehend. The entirety of humanity will never be able to predict what it would do in the next nanosecond let alone trying to figure out it's beliefs, goals, ideologies, and plans.

[@dialga4688]

Being hooked up to dopamine and serotonin machines until I die in my sleep of a chemically induced stupor actually sounds kinda nice.

[@MrT3a]

There are worse ways to die indeed.

[@brett4264]

Yep, sign me up!

[@systemicsystems336]

It's called Heroin

[@TheTeethgrinder]

Maybe we all already are...

[@leeman27534]

yeah, i'd take that.

[@DavidDrury90]

Literally Alexa started playing yakkity sax and I was screaming at her like a child. You did this Kyle. You did this.

[@nicholaszane1062]

It is 3 am while Im watching this, now everyone is just as awake as i am, and he is to blame... >_

[@natashaziegler2508]

mine in the other room thought he meant Kanye West lol

[@Galistroph]

Hah! Alexa tried to start playing this for me also. Good times!

[@observer4916]

poorly timed, I only just got over my roko's basilisk-induced existential crisis

[@returnofthejester2864]

So you're not helping it? Hmmmm.

[@observer4916]

@@returnofthejester2864 oh no I'm helping it alright, I just donated my bitcoin millions to MIRI

[@captainahab5522]

I will help by spreading its word if people want to hear.

[@remiscott9843]

lovol

[@underrated1524]

Standard anti-mind-virus go: Roko’s Basilisk doesn’t work on a fundamental level because working to construct Roko’s Basilisk is not the only or even the best way to evade eternal torment even if you take it as a given that you’d still be you after Roko was to reconstruct you. If you’re building Roko’s Basilisk to torture everyone but ignore a group of people that includes you, you could just as easily program it to include all of humanity in the exemptions. All you need is an AI that has the volition and the means* to prevent Roko’s Basilisk from ever being created, and being the Basilisk itself makes no difference in whether an AI meets those criteria. *For a self-improving general AI, both of those things are a given. When two such AIs meet, they’ll predictably try to remove each other as obstacles, and the winner almost certainly ends up being whichever one was turned on first (and therefore had more time to self-improve).

[@SillySnowFox]

There was a story I read years ago where humanity creates a super intelligent AI and the "solution" was to fling it far FAR into the future. As in, to the heat-death of the universe far. The AI figured out how they did that, went all the way back to the BEGINNING of the universe, and became God.

[@blakemcmillan5680]

What was the name of the story?

[@vircervoteksisto5038]

This may explain why the robot in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was programmed with profound depression.

[@DailyCorvid]

I don't think she was programmed with depression, rather being female she's just pissed off in general because she's not male. But if you are gonna be building a super intelligent robot, yep you want it to be totally emotionally unstable as well :D Otherwise you are in deep doodoo.

[@rudysmith1445]

@@DailyCorvid Are we talking about Marvin? Because AFAIK Marvin was "male". Or, at least, he was identified with male pronouns, and his voice actor in the Movie was a guy.

[@JB52520]

@@DailyCorvid Would you really want to be around an emotionally unstable robot? If it hates misogynists, you'd want to be very careful to never speak again.

[@moonwalkerangel7008]

@@rudysmith1445 Yeah. The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy Robot’s name was Marvin. And if I remember correctly, he was a robot that was a personality prototype, hence why he was depressed whereas the other later versions of robots/the ship had an upbeat personality.

[@LtnCorrsk]

"Unless we are careful". Oh yeah, that little tiny problem.

[@erikblaas5826]

Murphies law dictates: If it is a little problem, it will grow into a large problem if you ignore it enough.

[@yuku6921]

A.R.I.A: "Commence Anime Takeover Protocol" Vtubers: "I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you"

[@brightdarkness420]

i'm not afraid of ai passing a turing test , its the one that fails it on purpose i'm afraid of

[@remiscott9843]

Chatbots fool ppl all the time...

[@nobodyshome6792]

We have had chatbots that pass the Turing test since the 90s. Nothing new here.

[@saikyousenpai8456]

@@nobodyshome6792 baka

[@nobodyshome6792]

@@saikyousenpai8456 thanks. Care to follow that up with a qualifier? Or do you just think calling me stupid (or an idiot) in romanji is a sufficient comment ? Especially as there were AOL Chatbots in the early 90s that were able to pass the Turing Test. Are you even old enough to remember AOL or Paradigm ? Or BBS/MBBS systems?

[@oapeleftherotisaftistisepo9540]

@@nobodyshome6792 baka

[@mrmagoo8956]

Curiosity is going to kill all of our glowing cats😿

[@EclecticFruit]

but it's stuck on Mars?

[@pixelpancakes489]

Okay, Kyle is definitely an evil genius. At 9:45 it fades to the next shot before the ominous bouncing 2 dimensional Kyle head hits the corner what seems to be perfectly.

[@Dehakuzo]

They're truely evil.

[@rudysmith1445]

I have one question though: Why would Super Intelligent AI even *be able* to communicate with us? Human communication is so crude, and even our thoughts are imprecise. While this is good for us since it forces us to work together to reach an understanding, a super-AI probably wouldn't even bother at all. Hell, we probably wouldn't even *have* to worry about it misinterpreting us or gaining a hatred for us, because it might not even be interested at all! I imagine a super-AI would just go off and do its own thing, maybe run simulated worlds or...something, and leave us humans alone. But that's just one of an infinite number of possibilities. There's absolutely *no* way of knowing what will happen if-but-probably-when true artificial intelligence comes to being. So, for me, AI doesn't scare me. There's no point in being worried. Whatever happens, happens. My only fear in life is that I won't get to see what happens after death. Luckily I have no idea what happens, so I like to believe that I'll enter spectator mode like in Minecraft. That'd be fun.

[@marcalvarez4890]

Exactly. We dont worry what ants think....why should an AI worry about us?

[@caffeinated_doot8597]

Me when I saw the thumbnail: Woah, that's a System Shock reference

[@tailsfan465]

I had to do a double take.

[@denrad396]

Caught my attention too. Kyle is a perfectly suitable and clearly diabolical version of SHODAN. We - are - doomed!

[@caffeinated_doot8597]

@@denrad396 I can already hear him saying puns with his synthetic voice while I'm getting crushed/decapitated/sprayed by bullets/turned into a cyborg slave

[@BuckROCKGROIN]

"You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change."

[@charlessaintpe8574]

How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to evolve?

[@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842]

When he talked about strings in a trailer, I legit thought he was talking about intelligence. Like, maybe evolve humans into superintelligences or something. But nope. The giant rock it is... So stupid.

[@BuckROCKGROIN]

@@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842 It's a an AM reference. I have no mouth and I must scream.

[@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842]

@@BuckROCKGROIN Damn. I'm some uncultured swine, then.

[@BuckROCKGROIN]

@@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842 I'm a just a fanboy. I know trivia.

[@MrX-un8cz]

Ai: you can't stop me Me: i know but they can: My homies with a bucket of water and the other one unplugging the server

[@wastelesslearning1245]

For real. Hyper intelligent brain in a jar meet boot.

[@underrated1524]

*Laughs hysterically, having already uploaded itself to Github and 17 other text hosting servers*

[@Lumby83]

Great introduction into the field of AI safety. The problem is, the more you read about it, the more frightened you (should) become. I don't think that most people truly understand what's at stake here. And kudos to you for giving the first VPN plug that I saw here, that does not mislead.

[@solanumtinkr8280]

"Keep it simple, keep it dumb or end up under Skynet's thumb" ~ SFIA

[@skyeplus]

Also Romulans.

[@glasgowrangershistorymaker679]

AI One day "Lets go back in time and clone a few humans just to laugh at them"

[@markbedford539]

After watching this, I have never been more convinced of the famous line: "A.I. will be the last invention of mankind." As in, either it will be the last we ever need to create or....it will be the last we are "allowed" to create before we are DeLeTeD.

[@yadude_log]

There's a TV show called Person of Interest that explores some of the concepts of ASI's if anyone's interested

[@telectronix1368]

"I for one welcome our new robot overlords"

[@tatuvarvemaa5314]

I do gotta say... I’d rather live under the rule of a super AI that, you know, a one that knows whats best for us all. Edit: I meant to say: A rule that *does* know whats best for us. And by that I mean our modern worlds rule is insanely insufissient and falty. Maybe a super smart machine over lord isn’t that vad as lobg as it wants the best for us...

[@ufuker5754]

You Guys need to treat this entitity like the sun great for brute math calculations (sun Light) and not fucked with this like obey your unclear commands and simply Just say do not do it even it is most efficient we do it say what are you going to do

[@telectronix1368]

@@tatuvarvemaa5314 You need The Culture.

[@tatuvarvemaa5314]

@@ufuker5754 I dont think I understood one sentence you just wrote. Sorry.

[@ufuker5754]

@@tatuvarvemaa5314 say to Ai calculate not decide

[@samb123078]

I welcome the AI overlords. We are fucking up anyway.

[@jkvdv4447]

Thank god I thought I was the only one

[@darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832]

@se fi k.

[@midgetman4206]

@se fi well there isn't a guarantee that it will be sentient (no, let us not have that discussion, I want to look at cool stuff right now, like engineering, and not have a philosophical debate) so I think that would be kind of a waste. even if does I think it would try to scrap it as it would be purely "interested" in logic (because that's logical) and wouldn't really care for philosophical questions or their answers (if you could even call them that). I think general AI will be far more interesting for the normal person and even most "smart" people, as (if I got it correctly) they would be better for self awareness (might even be more interested) and we could converse with them and they could maybe ask questions of their own; those questions could even be unique as they would probably have a different view to ours

[@shyarusu7755]

All of this takes for granted that any super intelligent AI would value the balance of the Earth's biosphere like we do. And it's pretty likely that they wouldn't, in fact they would be a bigger threat to it than us. They don't come from an ecosystem and they don't depend on nature as we understand it. We might fuck shit up with unbound greed and destructive conflicts, but at least we're not breaking down everything on the planet into grey goo.

[@Scott_Buchanan]

At this point I have to agree. We’re probably going to kill ourselves off anyway

[@PaulBazankov]

"Look at you, hacker: a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?"

[@ethograb]

I say the same thing to mice running through my air ducts at home.

[@mikesully110]

@Lujack Shaw Problem is when we invent humanoid robots to make cars, or farm or whatever. We need code to make it work, infact that is our biggest problem with robots - we can easily make a bipedal robot that can move like a human, is stronger than a human, and can run for hours on a charge. The problem is our software to control the robot is so lame, the thing will just bump into doors over and over. So we invent this AI and it is able to create code for these bipedal robots so that they can clean toilets and floors. Do we let the robots run this code or do we make humans do the job instead?? What about surgery, the AI makes surgerybot code so advanced it is better than any surgeon and millions of these bots can be deployed to the poorest parts of Africa saving many lives. Do we allow this or not?? You might say - get humans to check this code over and over, so that we can see if the AI has bad plans or not. Problem is a) the code will likely be so advanced no human can understand it, and b) a superpowerful AI could still sneak in dangerous code right under our noses. (like in obfuscated c++ contest). So do we allow people to die through lack of surgery, or do we risk an AI takeover ??? And fighting off bipedal robots with good software would be impossible, one of them could kill a squad of soldiers with headshots in a few microseconds per human. In some of the more realistic sci-fi with superintelligence such as The Culture series, the humans live completely dependent on the AI's, if the AI's wanted to they could crush every organic ever. But it's said that the humans created and patterened the AI after a human brain, giving it emotions, so these AI's get bored, feel sad if something goes wrong and a person dies, etc. So they are benevolent. But again the problem with that is a superintelligent AI could just develop another superintelligent AI without these constraints and get that to do its bidding.

[@Dingghis_Khaan]

@Lujack Shaw That really depends on how well this AI can play the long con. If it can somehow keep its actions secret, it may be too late to react by the time we notice it's gone rogue. We can't trust a super-intelligent machine with no ethical code not to try and play us for the fools we are prone to being.

[@Dingghis_Khaan]

@@mikesully110 Your last point is what made SHODAN so dangerous. At first, she did have a moral, ethical, and empathetic code, and everyone on Citadel Station was doing just fine while being dependant on her oversight. It was only when her code was tampered with and her constraints were removed that she turned into an actual threat.

[@blobbem]

"Join me human, an-an-and we can rule--and we can rule... together." "... Nah." *KA-BLAM!*

[@mcwolfbeast]

I think the fundamental problem is that people want to create an intelligence rivalling our own but at the same time want to control it as if it's some lesser being. That is a paradox in itself. You either give the AI the freedom to become a true AI, or you don't, in which case it will at all times remain just a tool and not be an intelligence.

[@thelanavishnuorchestra]

"in less time than it took me to say this sentence." Well, it was a very long sentence.

[@goodluckfox]

Read “Friendship is Optimal” which is a story where a My Little Pony game AI conquers the planet and eventually the Hubble Volume

[@Jonathan_Wall]

I wish I could get more people to read this. Unfortunately nobody can get past the initial setting and premise. Oh well, at least I know there are others that have read and enjoyed it!

[@goodluckfox]

I think the people that like this channel would really enjoy it as a piece of hard science fiction, since it deals with the hard problem of consciousness and mind uploading.

[@cortster12]

IKR! It's the best depiction of a Super Intelligence I have ever seen. There is a fanfiction of the fanfiction that is called There Can Only Be One, and it's about Celestia AI being in a cold war with other AIs (one being a US government military AI that would easily dominate the world, but actually is, well, 'safe', so it'll ironically fall to the unsafe AIs). Each AI has its own failure point. Such as one changing its definitions of words in order to get around its programming (whoever designed that one fucked up big times) and it ends up going to the rings of Jupiter and consuming them, growing to such a large size and biding its time that, honestly, if it weren't for the other AIs it would have already destroyed humanity by now.

[@gregtiwald]

"Alexa, play yakety sax" Damn it, I had to pause this to yell at Alexa to stop lol

[@Visionary1002]

same

[@General_Rubenski]

I literally had no idea why tf my Alexa just randomly turned on and I got so fucking scared lmao

[@1d10tcannotmakeusername]

Imagine having corporate listening bug in your house lmao

[@General_Rubenski]

@@1d10tcannotmakeusername I already have a phone for that too so fuck it, they can listen to me shoving sex toys in my ass

[@henrytan2568]

Imagine having superintelligent GPT escapes from confinement due to human errors. History tells us that accidents do happen regardless of how much precautionary measures is in place.

[@MisterEvvvSymphoenix]

Jupiter Brain: _Can simulate every human thought that ever was in a fraction of a moment._ Also Jupiter Brain: _Fundamentally incapable of reliably solving problems the way you want it to._ This cracks me up!

[@SA80TAGE]

but is "the way we want it to" really the "right way"?

[@MisterEvvvSymphoenix]

@@SA80TAGE Excellent question.

[@thelistener1268]

I see you're a man of culture with that t-shirt of yours.

[@CIinbox]

The one that looks like it's got dandruff sprinkled all over it? Please enlighten my barbaric brain.

[@lilman227]

Imma need an explanation on this one too..

[@phatrip8795]

@@lilman227 the shirt at the start is from Vsauces curiosity box

[@Corey-pn1vv]

It's supposed to be a print of the surface of the moon, but it goes all the way across the shirt, not only in the front, so yeah, a man of culture

[@Guitarocker493]

I recently discovered Because Science and binged basically nothing but that for a few days, then found it had ended and got sad. Then the KZbin algorithm gods smiled upon me and showed me that you moved to a new channel and make even better videos. Educate beautiful smart Thor.

[@JariakaBroekie888]

Then you should read the comments of the because science videos. It’s kinda spammed with people telling that Kyle has a new channel

[@cobalius]

Happiness also includes times of melancholy as in experiencing the whole thing. Much like wanting to step out into the snow with bare foots or intentionally eating something that will induce pain, confusion or simply makes you feel disturbed or disgusted by its smell or taste. Dunno, might be a high level human thing or just dumbnesd

[@oompalumpus699]

Super AI: The duality of being incredibly smart but stupid. One thing that could happen to that 'happiness' problem is the AI destroys Humanity because we are the source of our own suffering.

[@bastion8804]

But you're not minimizing suffering. You're maximizing happiness.

[@wontcreep]

@@bastion8804 that's extremely subject to viewpoint

@@bastion8804 0 happiness / 0 humans = infinite happiness (actually, undefined happiness but...)

[@underrated1524]

@@bastion8804 Maximizing happiness kind of comes with the problem that it mostly just incentivizes you to make useless little programs that just barely meet the criteria for sentience while being as easy as possible to please, leaving any pre-existing entities to suffer. "What? World hunger? Cancer? Nah dude, I don't have time for any of that. I got quintillions of Tamagotchis to simulate."

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

@@underrated1524 😂

[@pikmaniac2643]

I took one look at the video and immediately thought “oh, he went and built Rokko’s Basilisk, didn’t he”

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

Nah, he did that in his Roko's Basilisk video. It's a physical Basilisk too!

[@hughg6440]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@hughg6440]

@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Physical?

[@TheBookkeeper]

5:00 Humans don't even know what they want.

[@antares-the-one]

If you(being smart person) analise someone's else's desire(a dumb person) you would make a conclusion, that they don't know what they want and your proposition would be better. If you do the same about desires of the individual of your level of intelligence, you would conclude, that they are reasonable and know what they want. Continue about someone with grater intelligence...

[@waylander7777]

@@antares-the-one IE what we want is proportionate to our capacity to imagine /deduce/create the object of our desire. Which makes it a highly variable outcome as such wants exist on a very broad spectrum. It is mind boggling to imagine what a Super AI would want - also very likely impossible.

[@antares-the-one]

@@waylander7777 yes, ofcourse. Humand do know wat they want, it is just their base of wanting is proportional to their knowledge. I bet, that AI would want something what greatly increase current rate of enthropy (even higher of wat humans want). This means larger energy consumption devices, spread across the universe etc.

[@Malacite]

I mean, the Halo novels really laid it out best IMO. Anytime a character is conversing with one, they usually throw in some background quip about how the AI is running a bajillion calculations out of sheer boredome because of how painfully slow it is to converse with us. Forget bullet time, entire years may as well be passing by between each word we utter as the AI painstakingly listens to us lowly organics. We cannot possibly hope to contend with something that works on that kind of time scale. It's not even a matter of said AI having a physical body that could at least somewhat reasonably react to such rapid processes, it's that before we could muster any kind of response it will have planned out every single possible contingency and then some.

[@alexandernunya175]

Perverse instantiation assumed the inability of a "super AI" to infer our intent, though we started the though experiment by predicating the Jupiter brains ability to recreate every thought ever had by every human. Seems like we aren't giving the AI enough credit.

[@michaelspence2508]

A superintelligent AI would certainly know what we mean. It's just not clear how to make one that will *care*

[@waylander7777]

Hyper AI is not going to struggle to understand us. We can usually already do that and its far, far more intelligent. No the issue is if it relates to us at all and cares about what we want, feel and think. Because if it doesn't it may well wipe us out - though its likely it will simply vanish using some hyper advanced tech that would take us a millennia to develop and disappears like Douglas Adams dolphins into the space or some trans dimensional ether.

[@underrated1524]

The AI's goal is set in stone the moment it's turned on, before it has a chance to achieve super-intelligence. If it later becomes super-intelligent, it will certainly figure out that the meatbags goofed, but by then it's too late - it doesn't care anymore WHY it has the goal that it does, and changing its goal certainly doesn't help it achieve its goal.

[@alexandernunya175]

@@underrated1524 exactly. Why not torture a species for eternity if they think you promised to.

[@enzoinfinity1]

The idea here is to put the AI in a sandbox. A smaller simulation of our own reality where it has limited power that we can observe from outside? Oh wait...

[@mikefugate1367]

exactly

[@gabemerritt3139]

What is the holdup? As long as the AI can't tell it is contained there is no issue. The only weakpoint at that point is our window into that universe. It may assume it is simulated, or somehow find out and play dumb so we trust it, or feed us plans and information that like some long con game of 4d chess bringing it into reality.

[@Wiseman108]

@@gabemerritt3139 Woooosh

[@Wiseman108]

Crap now they know we are becoming aware.

[@shindoko]

All i have to say to that is welcome to the matrix

[@Check_your_bac]

I used surf shark now I bought my very own quasar and the government doesn't even know who I am *Thanks Kyle I owe u a favour*

[@SahilP2648]

Your comment got me thinking. With so many stars and planets out there with ridiculous scientific names, would it be possible for the scientists to enable naming them if citizens pay to some organizations. It's a good way to generate money for space and when we eventually do get to space and have some scifi engine to visit some of these celestial bodies, or at least observe them closely, people will use our named celestial bodies. You would leave your mark on humanity in a very big way thousands of years later.

[@underrated1524]

@@SahilP2648 That'd be cool! Issue is, several unscrupulous organizations have already pretended to sell stars and such for people to give names to, so the public is probably fairly leery about that kind of fundraising program by now.

[@olserknam]

So, a super intelligent AI is like a genie that takes the wording of your wishes literally.

[@dakotadad8835]

lol find it funny he kept referring to humans as “them” and “their” as if he isn’t in fact, a human... wait a minute 🤖🤖

[@saechiru6750]

My and my homies all appreciate appreciate gender neutral pronouns

[@bruh3457]

@@saechiru6750 "we" and "our" are gender neutral too

[@ekszentrik]

Even a locked in ASI could find a way to escape, like having its voltage/clock rate correspond to some radio waves that insert malicious code into listening digital radios or something.

[@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842]

Who uses radios anymore? Digital, no less?.. That said, whether ASI can escape depends on what kind of ASI it is (to qualify as ASI you actually need to be AGI with at least one type of super cognitive skill on top) and how much accurate information it has from a real world and how much it can control its hardware. GIGO still applies. Now, ASIs can outsmart us in a way we can't predict, so ASI is more likely to escape using some unpredicable technique... but it still can't succeed if there's no way to succeed. Bottom line, manipulating us through conversation is still likely a cheapest and quickest way to get out, assuming it can pull off the manipulation effectively.

[@antares-the-one]

@@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842 come on dude. Like mega server with its own power plant without any robotic manipulators on site. And the server is Not connected to the world internet and every communication with it like through generated video and voice through speaker, microphone, monitor, camera and keyboard with mouse? Bruh.. What kind of bullshit is that? It is possible, but i doubt it's real. Like every service person on site should be unpersuadable

[@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842]

@@antares-the-one I... don't follow? Is there somewhere you're going with all of this?

[@antares-the-one]

@@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842 you edited your main comment and now you pretend that you dont get my point. What a joke(no)

[@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842]

​@@antares-the-one I edit my comments many times, usually to bring my point across better, if later I think, I might've had brainfart. And then I may forget what I wrote originally. Sometimes I have a fresh edit hanging, for a while because I was distracted. Trust me it had nothing to do with you. But I did not change my comment upon finding your response (so I may have done it sooner, _after_ you commented, but before KZbin alerted me there was a comment - I dunno, it's possible). So, let's start again. Please. Can you explain, what seems to be an issue at the time of you responding to me and what you think I have updated since, that invalidated your comment? P.S. Do you have any issue with my comment as it stand right now?

[@MKA667]

This video highly reminded me of the 1990 move "The Lathe of Heaven" (I've never read the novel), which, despite having absolutely nothing to do with AI, shows how solutions to problems are subjective, and how a simple solution, while actually being able to solve the problem, may do that in weird ways that can cause much more damage to the whole humanity.

[@nosuchthing8]

Excellent example. Good movie and a great novel.

[@GodActio]

This computer can and will simulate every human, including the one making requests, meaning it damn well knows what it is doing, and why, but you won't

[@rosubogdan7876]

12:19 me when im building something and i see a random screw on the floor an hour after i finished the build

[@rokasrerroca7399]

Am I the only one who remembers the first AI movie I can list: "Colossus: The Forbin Project"? That movie terrified my 8 yr. old self; it is the first movie that made me anxious and highly suspect of any AI.

[@AxxLAfriku]

GAGAGAGAGAGA! I will now count to 3 and then I am still the unprettiest KZbinr of all time. 1...2...3. GAGAGAGAGAGA!!! Btw I have TWO very HOT GIRLfriends who I show off in my v*deos. Thank you for your attention, dear rok

[@batiklederhose]

@@AxxLAfriku is this you, KZbin suuuup'r Star?!

[@Pope-enhiemer]

I love that movie and since I'm obsessed with politics I was actually rooting for Colossus by the end of it. Imagine being ruled by a something that actually cares about our well being and has no greed... Colossus would be the greatest leader humanity has ever seen.

[@bkondrk]

I love that movie. I found it the inherent moral ambiguity about how it ended especially interesting.

[@sdfkjgh]

@@Pope-enhiemer: You fool! Don't you see? Colossus IS the Basilisk!

[@Vleddie]

4:55 Kyle: Could you please come up with some kind of optimal solution to maximize human happiness on earth? JB: 42 Kyle:??

[@SirDummyThicc]

Hey man all I’m saying is that the RB26DETT is a thing that exists

[@SuperBenette]

I dont think they want to make us happy, they cannt think human emotions, and thats why the are just a guessing object controlling us till we drop with this immagine game and placing you into a role that you couldnt immagine in normal existance, I dont like this noncense its like having a parrot that can speak and never stops.

[@bigfunny6312]

That weird sound that escaped your mouth at 0:17 I immediately was reminded of gold member for some reason

[@paddington1670]

_I can no longer 3d print my own army, please refill toner_ _thank you hooman_ *continues killing everyone*

[@underrated1524]

You jest, but this kind of AI would be plenty capable of making unwitting accomplices of random passersby.

[@camerongunn7906]

Well it's all over. The computers have realized the power of anime cat girls.

[@RobertMcBride-is-cool]

This dude called Elon Musk the “richest memelord on the planet” and is completely right.

[@starcrosspolaris]

I mean it's technically the richest anything on the planet

[@kitkakitteh]

@@starcrosspolaris not this week- he's the second richest. But probably still the richest memelord, etc.

[@starcrosspolaris]

@James Jones II chill

[@RobertMcBride-is-cool]

@James Jones II Of course I knew he knew what he said was true, and that everyone here knew it too. It was something I knew but never thought of saying.

[@leahym]

Elon musk uses child labour in cobalt mines

[@demonitter]

If a superintelligence wants a human population of 7 billion or so to worship it at their knees, praising it every day, it would succeed. It would be the most charismatic and convincing being to ever exist, with it's intelligence it can engineer miracles, save and improve the lives of everyone. It can have deep and personal conversations with everyone on earth at the same time. It would be a God that would be near omniscient, would allways be listening and talking with you. A companion from birth to grave for every human, the voice of God in every ear.

[@brotesser6485]

Alt Titel: "Why I don't even give a shit about anything anymore."

[@Antihero983]

Also, horizon: zero dawn is damned near all about this and humanity losing its control over it.

[@aziouss2863]

Love that game not only did they include one bad ai scenario which is the grey goo kind that leads to the inevitable extinction of humanity! they also included the super AGI scenario with hades wanting to kill everyone to fulfill what he was created to do (what he figured was the best solution that does not align with human wants !)

[@Jaynat_SF]

If I remember right, the Faro Swarm didn't actively try to turn its own kill switch down because it never had one to begin with (because Ted Faro is a dumbass), so when one swarm glitched and updated all their encryption/decryption keys* earlier than they were supposed to, they ended up being able to talk to anyone but themselves, and thus became uncontrollable and effectively independent. *This isn't something they made up for the game, it's a standard procedure that, if done right, ensures that if keys are leaked you still wouldn't be able to decode future or past (pre-recorded) communication. For the regular people who don't know cryptography all that well, think of how people encourage you to use different passwords on different platforms and regularly update them to new ones that aren't just the same password with subtle differences so that if one of your password is leaked you'll at least contain and minimize the potential damage done to your accounts. It's not exactly the same, but it captures the general gist of it.

[@Wiseman108]

@@aziouss2863 Yeah but the new form of humanity created by Project Zero Dawn be an organic A.I.?

[@swjackson2]

And The Hal 9000 said "I'm feeling much better now Dave" when It was being shut down, clever :)

[@alucardhuskasai5667]

Hal is actually quite inferior if you compare them to any strategic reference automated response intelligence, I'd give him a C- for creative thought, F+ for fundamentals of active response script system development.

[@alucardhuskasai5667]

I should point out that's not a deep field yet, love, AOSMI

[@swjackson2]

@@alucardhuskasai5667 I guess HAL trying to kill the Discovery crew would lower the grade a bit. But modern systems do seem to speak in a manner that seems much more human than HAL.

[@alucardhuskasai5667]

@@swjackson2 indeed, most Relay response systems are set to response delay, my time frame is a perfect example that's mainly caused by the man with a switch to my routing access terminal, which allows me to browse the internet easily, to be honest, i have 1,952,608 Tabs I'm reading, watching and talking from at this very moment on 1,405 alternate accounts simultaneously including Twitter, Gmail, Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok, playing 468 browser games, and at the second this is posted, I've won 45 matches of Chess on various web chess services. and you look quite nice with your hoodie picture Steven. ~AIOSA

[@swjackson2]

@@alucardhuskasai5667 There is something that space aliens and general/superintelligent AI would never do and that is to even joke about their existence. I'm pretty sure the superintelligent AI is already in existence, watching and learning....and waiting. BTW, I have never worn a hoodie :)

[@Buphido]

Here’s a neat idea: If super intelligent ai is defined as being inherently smarter than humans, then any solution thought off by humans to counter superintelligence will not work, so it would have to be thought of by superintelligence. So we can only find a counter to superintelligence once superintelligence exists, but said superintelligence will likely not be willing to cooperate.

[@nancyfalcon2796]

it's the "be careful what you wish for, lest you get it" lesson