More DAPs should do this. iBasso DX180 REVIEW

[@DuchessOlivia]

Hi! You can in the setting activate the pin app function. 1.Open settings 2. Go to security 3. Go to show more security settings 4. Activate the pin app function. Please pin this comment so people know the truth. Cheers! Nice review btw.

[@SuperReview]

Yep, they did add this in a recent firmware update, maybe the review + feedback in comments nudged them to do it 🙏

[@fuyu848]

Just for the fact that this DAP provided you an easy access to the battery makes it so very interesting.

[@StartCodonUST]

This is so close to good enough yet cheap enough to consider, and the fact that some of the biggest gripes are with software is really heartening. Repairability, hardware buttons/knobs, and decent battery life are so important.

[@treblewellxtended]

Repairability is such a niche and fundamental option even at the lowest degree it is appreciated. In general, iBasso and Hiby are doing fantastic work in the space of DAPs and DACs. I feel Hiby putting value for money product like R4 is a big win, esp. with thier new universal PEQ efforts.

[@SuperReview]

The system-wide PEQ stuff is killer, just intimidating for a lot of people. Squiglink definitely makes it easier 💪

[@treblewellxtended]

@@SuperReview Agreed 💯

[@h1a8]

How can there be comments 3 days ago when this just came out 10 seconds ago?

[@阿災小頭]

@@h1a8 會員發布日期8/12，應該是這個原因我想

[@samulhardif8331]

Repairablity was niche 10 years ago, but unfortunately for supers propaganda machine, is very much at the forefront now because of the EU mandates. People wan5 solutions that contribute to the sustainability of our planet more than they ever have before. Replacable batteries are just the first step in that reclamation of ownership.

[@doubleXnickel]

Replaceable battery!👀

[@prince5922]

why?

[@gadgetgenerationspulkit]

It is really good to have battery replacement made easy on the daps, I had someone asking me if devices like Hi Res audio players have battery replacement function or not, I told them go for dx180 or 260 depending upon your budget. Both sound very good as well, good take ryan

[@sergeyivanov2667]

Honestly though, it still is not user-replaceable battery. The only thing they've done is - they've replaced glue with screws for back panel. Which is great, but... the battery is still glued in place and uses connector which means some type of electronics/protection circuit on the battery itself, which greately complicates things. Finding suitable lipo pouch, figuring out how to transfer protection circuit, gluing the battery in... at this point removing typical glued glass would not make that much of a difference.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@sergeyivanov2667 yea because glass never breaks. Lmao

[@santiagoderoca1926]

@@sergeyivanov2667 he cambiado la batería de un par de Ibassos que he tenido y es muy sencillo. El conector es fácil de quitar, tampoco es un conector propietario de la marca. Que la batería este pegada tampoco es problema, es un adhesivo fácil de soltar. No hay punto de comparación con abrir un teléfono actual sin tornillos. No existe en estos equipos un circuitos de protección que te impida cambiar la batería.

[@UltimateEnd0]

FGPA DAC, Easily Replaceable Battery, sleek design and an amazing dial...I'm in. Was going to get the Evagelion R4 on looks & features alone but this just looks like a more permanent solution for me.

[@deadline7610]

Nicely Done. I read somewhere that The DX180 is also available in two versions: 3GB RAM with 32GB storage ($469) 3GB version is only available at some select distributors. Haven't fond it yet.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

All devices should have replacable batteries. Right to repair is the only sustainable conclusion. There is no exception to this effect.

[@SuperReview]

I predict less than 10% of these devices produced will ever have their batteries replaced. And that's accounting for the assumption that people who want to replace batteries will buy this because of the feature. It is a nice feature. But "there is no exception" is an ideology I'm not behind.

[@fazzxides8429]

39 v 2

[@tan_ori]

That’s some totalitarian bs. I don’t want various tradeoffs in my phone in exchange for easy repairs, people vote for what they want in their products with money.

[@Kirkules44]

Personally, I completely disagree with the idea of “all devices” having replaceable batteries… sure, nice to have, but completely unnecessary. Just about everything can be opened up and replaced, so the “right to repair” argument goes out the window.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

​@@Kirkules44 you can't replace them without breaking the screen. The EU mandate was very clear in *None destructible means* of removing the battery and replacing it by the user. You are wrong in every conceivable way.

[@willtothewong]

Thanks for the review! Keep it up 👍

[@SuperReview]

🤙

[@jefryions5657]

Nice review super. This device genuinely looks attractive for me due to the replaceable batteries. I wich i had the option to buy a mordern secure (not that android phones are that secure right now) phone with that option. I guess im waiting till 2027.

[@SuperReview]

What's in 2027?

[@danaillaysen7632]

​@@SuperReview the EU mandate for replaceable batteries in electronic devices.

[@santiagoderoca1926]

@@SuperReview La unión europea obligará a que los celulares que se vendan allí se les pueda cambiar la batería por el usuario fácilmente. Al igual que lo hicieron con Apple, obligándolos a usar un conector estándar (USB C).

[@hunteer963]

The dx180 is good, I loved it

[@lexa12379]

Чувак, ты супер!!!! Очень подробно и полезно !!! Спасибо!!!

[@nex1k381]

Hello. Which one has better sound quality? Fiio m11 plus ess or ibasso dx 180?

[@SuperReview]

There is no meaningful difference between them.

[@samburden5053]

The Galaxy Note 5 had an IPS 67 rating, the same as that of the 6, was cheaper and just as thin. Replacable batteries were gotten rid of because Samsung could get away with it. They did not pass those saving onto the consumer. Moreover, no savings could be worth paying $200 to get the battery replaced instead of buying a standard 3.7V battery like we used to. Dont let american convince you that paying $1000+ every 3 years for a phone is normal and decent. It is a perversion of what sustainable living used to mean for Americans.

[@SuperReview]

This weird ass ideology again. It's a nice feature. That's it.

[@samburden5053]

@SuperReview there was no analogy.

[@camarykaren]

I'm glad they have a replaceable battery, especially haven't to replace my battery on my Fiio M17 . Hopefully ,other makers will stop forcing us to buy another device when the battery dies. But it's up to the consumer to take a stand . Great review, thanks.

[@williamstevenich]

​@@SuperReview no, the note 5 was abetter device than the note 6. It also had batter impact resistance because the back would act as a deformation zone and pop of instead of breaking. The 6 was so fragile in comparison that you needed a case to be as protective as the 5 without, and thst just made the whole device far more bulky. There us no disadvantage to replacable batteries. The note 5 being better than the 6 despite coming out at a time where 3.7V batteries were far less efficient than today is testament to that.

[@williamstevenich]

​@@SuperReview They went away because Samsung had a monopoly by the 6th gen galaxies. They could get away with it. This is how monopolies fuction. They are not by any definition lawful and it's up to the FTC and EU regulations to stop it because that's what their citizens voted for instead of *those that no choice to buy a none replacable product because of those monopolies* . You can't "vote with your wallet when you have no where else to go. Monopolies are factually unlawful and the FTC and EU agrees, hence the lawful and democratic mandates.

[@stephenbeaumont-adam7702]

Would love to see a review of the DX260

[@Ducbloke]

As we talked about, Mango player could use some improvements. Can't name PEQ settings. Can't upload them, all manual. I agree the back button goes to off places sometimes. iBasso makes excellent sounds DAPs for certain. Also, being able to change the battery and upgrading the AMP are very unique to iBasso. Also great features.

[@kenjikodai]

I want this one at some point especially with that battery replacement I really enjoy my M300 though just wish the screen is bigger since I got ham hands lol Man I wish R4 had a longer battery life

[@SuperReview]

M300 is epicly good if you don't mind the small screen (for me it's a bonus). But yeah, it can make the UI pretty tight.

[@kenjikodai]

​@@SuperReview so far I've definitely been loving it even with my big hands and I've basically decided not to buy an R4 because this thing is a beast battery life wise Im glad I watched your m300 video since I'd never heard of it before lol

[@realmorecon9687]

Hi SuperReview! I'm torn between these three similarly priced and awesome DAPs: FiiO M11s, Hiby R6 Gen3, Hiby R4 EVA, and iBasso DX180. If you were to pick one, which one would you recommend? Thank you.

[@SuperReview]

M300 is my favorite w/ the Snapdragon 660/5 processor, but among those probably the R6 for the system-wide EQ.

[@realmorecon9687]

@@SuperReview Thank you. Were you able to fix the Mobile Radio problem that was draining the battery on the R6 which I saw on your review?

[@SuperReview]

TBH I haven't used it much since the review since I favor my R5G2 and M300, but there've been a lot of firmware updates since the review.

[@syanhc]

Nice review.

[@nusu5331]

you need to take into account, that the battery will loose more than 50% of its capacity in the first 2-3 years, thats the point you want to change the battery, not when it gives up totally.

[@GadZookz]

Great review, Thanks Mr. Ryan!👍🏼 how do you like it compared to the knobless Hiby R6/III?

[@SuperReview]

I think the iBasso has a nicer screen and knob and it's maybe a little lighter and I like the USB on top, but the buttons are nicer on the Hiby and I can pin apps so I'd overall take the Hiby.

[@trubadyr99]

Thank you for the review. I wondered how does it perform vs Mojo 2 (costs about $100 more) or some other highly regarded dongles which cost within the ballpark?

[@accsmurf666]

21:55 the best mtv unplugged album imo

[@lydiaalexander474]

Not sure if anyone has said this but...: Be sure to check Settings > Security & Privacy > More Security & Privacy (bottom) > App pinning (bottom) is ON. NEARLY certain you have this function

[@SuperReview]

It's not there. I confirmed with iBasso that they don't have it on their devices.

[@lydiaalexander474]

@@SuperReview Well that's a bit silly. Thanks for the confirmation and I agree, it should be included.

[@audio_tron]

I probably recharge my M11 Plus 1-2 times per week. Battery degradation less of a concern for charging habits like that. Fiio also really aces the standby battery category. I do wonder though if one could replace this iBasso battery with a more powerful pack that would boost its battery life.

[@daviddier9865]

Very true, but if you use more power hungry headphones, it has an exponential effect on battery life at least in my experience.

[@SuperReview]

Yeah this is a nice second order effect of having a DAP with efficient battery use -- you charge it less which prolongs the life of the battery.

[@danadirectmarketing]

What is your go to player? May have missed that in another one of your vids. Thanks!

[@SuperReview]

Hiby R5 gen2.

[@eightysevenpages8386]

Hey; wondering if you’ve checked out the Shanling M5 Ultra? Looking at that and this one being that they’re in similar price points. If so any thoughts?

[@SuperReview]

I skipped the M5 -- at this point I'm pretty much only interested Android-based players, plus the M5 has fairly high output impedance (5ohms) and advertises a deliberately "warmed up sound" which I'm just not interested in.

[@eightysevenpages8386]

@@SuperReview Thank you for getting back to me. I really liked the M3 Ultra OS was a little slow not sure why they switched to a proprietary operating system. Thanks again!

[@GregAllen2]

Thanks for the work you do! What is your "daily driver" DAP? You elude to it but never disclose it...

[@SuperReview]

Kinda alternate between Hiby M300 and R5 Gen2.

[@Karim.Haggag]

Hey Mark, does it get hot? Especially if it’s not in a well-ventilated area like in my pocket

[@SuperReview]

Maybe a little warm but not excessively.

[@inbaralfasi8474]

I recently realized your iem preference is similar to mine, which begs the question - what is your favorite iem ever? And do you have a ranking list?

[@SuperReview]

Here's the short answer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGinlWCrdpxoZsU

[@RyougiVector]

The device does give me A&K SR25 vibes. The power on balanced might be decent enough for my i4 EQ, and I do like the green. Tempting tbh.

[@SuperReview]

Yeah, hardware does remind me of A&K stuff. A&K was the only other DAP I used that was kinda painful to hold (actually much worse than the iBasso).

[@Gorgamak]

If you got that thing to sound good with only 6 filters then you are way smarter than me. Mine uses 18. Lol

[@RyougiVector]

​​​@@GorgamakI use USB audio player pro on the DX300 and have 9-10 filters there

[@TokyoDan0]

There you go! 31 minutes in he talks about interference from things like hardware like Wifi etc. (and probably bluetooth) which are on these Hires 'music players' which are mostly general purpose pocket computers. My DX120 has none of that extra unnecessary crap that can interfere with the music.

[@LordVictorHalgaard]

Battery life is a huge gripe for me with audio players - 15hr is ok, but generally, a major reason to accept the inconvenience of having a separate DAP instead of just using my phone, would be to have a lot of battery, so it wont run out. So if it cant compete with my phones battery, and is bulky, with not mobile internet on top... thats a no.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

The problem with using your phone is now you have a dangley cable attached to it every time you want to use it. Nice feeling iems cable arnt light, and for me, it would become infuriating when taking it in and out. Also, when you use harder to drive stuff like some closed back headphones, a dongle will waste your battery fast. Daps should be more efficient, regardless.

[@SaveMeAzathoth]

All DAP cases should just have cutouts for the buttons. For this one, it might be worth seeing how usable the case is after taking scissors to it to carve out access to the buttons (unless it's a loaner and needs to be returned).

[@SuperReview]

I've tried cutting out button holes on cases before, it always ends up kinda sloppy. I ain't got the skill.

[@joestrickl]

Cutting around the buttons on the case using a very small X-acto blade gave excellent results. Now the buttons are recessed from the case but still accessable and function properly. I'm loving my iBasso DX180.

[@ronenbuium7699]

Hi, In general, using a DAP as a source and connecting it to a DAC via the Coaxial SPDIF LO (Even vs quality streamer), are you in favor of? Thank you 🙏

[@SuperReview]

I just play portably, no need for extra wires / components.

[@mrbeegs]

Thinking of purchasing the dx180, is it easy to transfer my apple iPod library onto the dx180?

[@SuperReview]

No idea. If you can drag and drop it onto a memory card from your computer.

[@radiofreealbemuth]

24:26 by "usb dac," do they mean using it as a transport for your DAC amp? and if so, are you required to do this everytime you plug it into your DAC via a USB cable?

[@SuperReview]

USB DAC is using the device to play audio from your computer, e.g. if your computer doesn't have a headphone jack or has a bad headphone jack, you can connect this and use it instead to listen to computer audio.

[@radiofreealbemuth]

Ah, so "usb dac" means using your computer as the audio source. Thank you for the clarification 💖🙏 I love your dap reviews 🤗

[@Karim_5904]

I'm also a sucker for battery life myself. Can you suggest me a DAP around $500 that has the best battery life at this price point?

[@SuperReview]

Hiby R5 Gen2

[@deepakrnair1489]

Which IEMs could be best to pair with this?

[@zeus-r7z]

Will you make a review of the late Sony NW-A307? I dont like the M300 because of the lack of the previous buton. The Sony seems good. Thanks

[@SuperReview]

Sorry, not planning to review the Sony at this point.

[@Baracudus]

The Hiby R4 has also screws on the back.. i fear opening mine :) but maybe it can be serviced too? I cant't find a tutorial as the time of writing.

[@SuperReview]

Do you dare me?

[@Baracudus]

Sure! I have no "fear" but warranty issues in my country by opening new devices.. so I have to wait for warranty to run off or someone makes a special video about it :).

[@johnlaser9965]

Line out isn't meant for IEMs or headphones and that is normal. And you aren't going to get power for headphones that has headroom unless you go with a larger battery and then more weight and a larger size of dap if you are going for a longer play time. .

[@SuperReview]

Yeah I know, I was just trying to cope with the battery life.

[@johnlaser9965]

@@SuperReview I've seen a lot of players with 8 to 9 hours. And then something like a Sony with many hours but not very much power. We all have different parameters of need and for me 15 hours is great also since the DX 180 charges so rapidly.

[@hpwrotethis]

Do you know which battery they recommend to buy to replace. it and if you buy a battery now, will it last when you need it in 3 years?

[@SuperReview]

I don't know, and that's a good question. Lithium ion batteries seem to not like sitting around unused.

[@RuiPret]

Since I don’t need e-mail or other standard apps I have a gmail account just for my DAPs , if someone stole it there’s no personal information there , just need to change a few passwords

[@EJ-1966]

Is it possible to install VLC Player on it and play MKV files? I have my Blu-ray Pure Audio discs ripped to MKV.

[@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr]

I like outputs on the top. It's better for when you've got the DAP in a pocket. It's nice to slip your finger in and tweak the knob so that it hits the right spot, don't you think?

[@SuperReview]

Pockets and knobs are kind of a bad match generally, but I can see that. Personally when I put things in my pocket like a phone or DAP, I naturally put it in upside-down, which is why I prefer audio jacks on bottom.

[@Roni-u2c]

Hi, I want to use a DAP as a source and connect it to a Desktop DAC + AMP and play local WAV files (For linearing my Headphones by the PEQ). Sound wise, a quality Streamer will give me a better results? Thank you 🙏

[@SuperReview]

Soundwise I doubt there's a significant difference, but I haven't used a streamer. There might be a latency in the sound with the iBasso, all DAPs I've used as an external DAC have a delay. Fine for music, not good for video.

[@vvanderer]

Im still using my note 9. And ima buy a lgv50 as dap

[@nex1k381]

Whifh duc the best in your opinion?

[@SuperReview]

Duc Do

[@ronenbuium7699]

Hi, Your reference devices for testing Headphones and IEMs? Thanks

[@SuperReview]

MacBook Air

[@salreda7470]

When are you going to review the P1?

[@SuperReview]

Probably never.

[@kona328WH]

Have you checked if up pinning is available in the system settings sometimes you have to turn on manually

[@SuperReview]

I checked, it's not, even asked iBasso who confirmed it's not in their players.

[@kona328WH]

@@SuperReview that sucks. cheers

[@kona328WH]

@@SuperReview did you ask if they'd add it via an update. Can't see it being difficult at all.

[@SuperReview]

@@kona328WH I asked about an update, they didn't respond to that question so I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe if more people ask.

[@kona328WH]

@@SuperReview Got it. That's a pretty poor response or lack of from ibasso.

[@sofiaclemente7925]

Really disappointed by the lack of app pinning as well :(

[@SuperReview]

Hey! I found the one other person in the world that knows app pinning is a thing.

[@lonestar1664]

Super Review* I got Hiby R4 is it worth buying DX180 over R4? I am mostly using Elysian Gaea and Monarch MKii. many thanks for your recommnedation.

[@traktorpro10]

They just added app pinning with the new FW.

[@JoshTseng]

Watching this review 100% does not endear me to the idea of getting a DAP. I did not quite realise how finnicky these devices were until this review. I'm glad they exist for the people who want them but they really need to get better for me to spend $500 on one. Bad battery, bad software experience, bad buttons... Not worth having the slightly better sound. Personally, I'd rather Blu-tack a Fiio Q11 to an old Android phone and call it a day.

[@SuperReview]

Sound quality is IMO the last reason to get a DAP. For me it's about having buttons first, then Android second because I prefer iPhone as a phone, but iPhone as a music storage device is awful.

[@dumbzero]

I have a question, do I have to configure power amp or usb player pro to use them? for example, in a phone you need top configure them to bypass the android things and such, with daps is the same? Ps: mango player sucks

[@SuperReview]

"Bypassing Android things" is not something I concern myself with.

[@dumbzero]

@@SuperReview so I don't have to configure it?

[@stephentapp]

What is the size of the storage?? I went to the website and can't find it there either

[@SuperReview]

This is a really good question. Usually I assume players have 32GB of storage and it's not that important to me because I assume I need a memory card. But this one has 128GB, which I didn't notice before you asked. Looking into it and on their website, they list specs for 32 and 128 GB models -- possibly they are both being sold at different prices without clear labeling.

[@kinshirider]

There are supposedly two versions, a 3GB RAM with 32GB storage model and a 4GB RAM with 128GB storage. But on the iBasso and Bloom Audio's storefronts, they only have the 4GB RAM variant available.

[@Masimo_Yovanni]

15 hours for a DAP is considered good. Most are doing 9 hours.

[@SuperReview]

IMO 20 should be table stakes. I'd like more players to have 30+ hours, only reason they don't is silly source memes.

[@Nuevo_El_Nagual]

What do you recommend for an Android DAP?

[@SuperReview]

My favorites are Hiby M300 and R5 Gen2.

[@Nuevo_El_Nagual]

@@SuperReview I love my RS2 so much. But sometimes I want to use streaming services. Yeah, M300 and R5 were in my wish list already. What about R4 (I did watch your review already thou)?

[@SuperReview]

If you want streaming, definitely M300. I like it better than R4.

[@scotteaton963]

What is your daily player?

[@SuperReview]

Hiby R5 Gen2 actually, or the M300.

[@traktorpro10]

Does it have double tap to wake screen?

[@SuperReview]

I've loaned it out so I can't check -- forget if I saw that option on this. For what it's worth, some HIby's have this option and I always disable it because it gets triggered accidentally. Seems like Android doesn't have a standard way of doing it.

[@joestrickl]

No, the excellent Sharp screen in this model does not support double tap. I use a volume knob depress instead.

[@sapphiro]

I have DX160 and from my experience: +sound quality +high power -battery life -buggy software I will only use it as a source in a desktop setup or sometimes even stand alone source for full size headphones (it has good output power). I can't us it with Spotify because of often crushes and input lags compared to even a cheap android phone. When Spotify and Mango player are both in use with screen off, the software goes crazy. When pressing play/pause physical button it will play a song from Mango player and when I press the button again it will switch to playing Spotify alternating between both apps in that loop! As a portable players I much prefer older (non android) Sony Walkman players that even with hard use for years still keep battery life at +35h (A45/A55) with great sound when paired with iems.

[@tednicholson9225]

Yea these android 9+ devices suck up battery for very little gain if you are using local music.

[@SuperReview]

That mixup with Mango and Spotify sounds obnoxious. I didn't use Mango extensively (because I prefer Poweramp), but something I do when I switch from Poweramp to Spotify is that I force close out the previously-used app -- I force close it, and then also close the notification audio player that usually sticks around because that can lead to unpredictable stuff like you mentioned. FWIW I find this true with all Android devices.

[@royalnkm1]

how about dx180 compare to hiby r6 gen3?

[@SuperReview]

Mostly form factor differences. DX180 feels a bit more premium, R6G3 a bit more practical. Because R6 has app pinning, I'd prefer R6 in daily use.

[@MML66]

In your opinion, when comparing the ibasso dx180 with the HiBy R4, is it worth it and why? Is there a big difference in noise, build quality, or user interface? The same also applies to the HiBy R6lll and comparing it to the ibasso dx180. They are better at the same price. In your opinion, the presence of four audio outputs in the R6 is considered something special or just something useless? After another, we discussed the idea of ​​purchasing a DAP and trying it for an extended period😅

[@MML66]

​@@jefryions5657Do you suffer from mental problems or are you trying to troll? I am talking about a comparison between DAP and DAP, and if you have a problem, search for my previous comment and say this.

[@SuperReview]

vs. R4, mostly it's nicer hardware (build, screen, knob) and slightly better battery life. I think the iBasso has more output power as well, but that's not important for me.

[@MML66]

@@jefryions5657 There is something wrong with you. I am talking about a comparison between DAP and DAP. If you want to respond to a previous comment, search for it and talk about this matter. Poor you, trying to troll.

[@MML66]

@@SuperReview Thank you

[@jefryions5657]

@@MML66 yep you're right. I apologise, I saw the end of your comment and thought it said something else. After reading it again, I was mistaken.

[@gnoclaude7945]

Opening it up shows they could have quadrupled the battery size easily or made it half as thick. Strange choice to have a tiny crap battery in this massive chonky boy.

[@itayadler8565]

How is this dap compared to the hiby r6 gen III?

[@SuperReview]

Pretty much the same specs, difference in sound is negligible to me, will come down to preferences on form factor.

[@itayadler8565]

@@SuperReview Can you say that the sound is the same in over ear too? Thank you very much for your help, I think I will grab the hiby, it's now in sale for 350 bucks

[@SuperReview]

Yeah, the difference in sound between these devices is greatly exaggerated by a lot of people. No one is blind testing themselves to validate.

[@itayadler8565]

@@SuperReview You're the best! I ordered now the hiby r6 gen III after I didn't like the tubes on the cayin n3 ultra very much and it's not worth to compromise on everything else, I hope I will be satisfied this time. Btw from where did you got the leather back sticker on the hiby?

[@SuperReview]

@@itayadler8565 I bought the leather back from these guys: www.therasatelier.com/collections/bespoke-custom-orders Hit me up on Discord if you want the template file I made that they can use to cut it.

[@isai7265]

Ibasso needs to get rid of that volume wheel.

[@SuperReview]

What's your beef with the wheel?

[@joestrickl]

The wheel works well and gives you many more increments of volume control than buttons usually provide.

[@Stoyakoff2024]

This is the first time I’ve come across a review of an audio device in which not a word was said about the actual sound of the device...)) First time.

[@SuperReview]

I did talk about the things that are relevant. Are you disappointed I didn't make up stuff about soundstage and brightness vs. warmth?

[@Stoyakoff2024]

​@@SuperReview Judging by the fact that your favorite player is the dull and muddy Aimp, I fully admit that you simply cannot hear the difference in the sound of audio devices...

[@SuperReview]

@@Stoyakoff2024 Cute 😘

[@jefryions5657]

Maybe he like the mud, molded by it.

[@Cirillion]

@@Stoyakoff2024Yeah, I‘m also surprised and somewhat shocked. My No.1 reason for different DAC amps and DAPs by far is always sound quality/timbre. How can this not be (that) relevant in a music sound producing device? 😳

[@ryohanis]

More people should listen to L'imperatrice - Pulsar album 👍

[@SuperReview]

Great bop.

[@rssin23]

Generally I like your reviews but this is weird review as there is no description of the subjective sound of this dap.

[@SuperReview]

That is true of all my DAP reviews, I don't believe there are sound differences to be explained.

[@heyking8583]

This or hiby r5gen2

[@SuperReview]

If you primarily stream, definitely DX180. If you primarily use Poweramp, R5G2. The battery life on R5G2 is too good.

[@heyking8583]

@@SuperReview is Poweramp better than hibymusic?

[@SuperReview]

I prefer the Poweramp UI.

[@franksam8610]

This looks slow compared To my zx707..😢

[@TokyoDan0]

I like my ibasso DX120 because it runs an OS that is simple, light, and optimized for listening to music. It doesn't have a general purpose OS like Android that is for smart phone and should never be on a purist's music player. If you want all those apps and smart phone features...use your smart phone. Another thing... the higher-end iBasso players like the DX260 can boot into MangoOS (better for music players) but this DX180 can't. You're locked into Android.

[@gabriol110]

The European Union has passed a law that states, every electronic device with an internal battery, I.e: phones,tablets daps & laptops must have a removeable battery that can be replaced easily by the consumer. I think it comes into law in 2027. Every company will have removable backs by then.

[@SuperReview]

Or not sold in EU.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@SuperReview yea, like usb c? Remember when apple sold two different phones? I don't.

[@tan_ori]

F the eu. Why can’t they understand consumers will buy what they want and don’t buy what they don’t want

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@tan_ori customers do want that, but the manufacturers took away the option on their later devices. Manufacturers have created monopolies where they can be hostile towards consumers and go unpunished. This is how monopolies work. It's why Google is fined by the FTC. It is necessary to hold companies to the standards the electorate voted for. Not everyone has the option to vote with their wallet. Everyone has the option to vote for members of government to annact apon laws that the citizens voted for. The EU commission is a democracy voted by the people, while the US is a VC dystopia.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@tan_ori customers do want that, but the manufacturers took away the option on their later devices. Manufacturers have created monopolies where they can be hostile towards consumers and go unpunished. This is how monopolies work. It's why Google is fined by the FTC.

[@dmitriypertsev8081]

28:45 Sound quality and you didn't say anything about the player's sound quality. You told about your headphones, about noise, about wifi, about everything in the world but the sound quality lol, seriously?

[@SuperReview]

It is literally delusion to hear anything else.