Expert Painter Reveals The BEST Outside Paint

[@timfischer1613]

So appreciative of your review of these two BM products. I used the Regal "Low Lustre" on my roll up garage door and was happy with the egg shell type finish. Also liked this product since the egg shell type finish didn't show brush marks too extensively. I used the Regal "Soft Gloss" on two flat steel exterior doors wanting a slightly glossier finish. Well, I was very unhappy with this product's leveling capability. Painted these doors in my garage out of the sun with minimal breeze. Approximately 70*. I applied a moderate coat with the door in a horizontal position with a 3/8" nap roller then once the surface was covered I used the weight of the 3" paint brush immediately to knock down the roller "nubs". Paint was still very wet. When it dried, you could see the brush marks. This product performs nothing like BM Advance.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

For sure the soft gloss is going to have a much shorter open time than Advance. Advance is a speciality interior product which has one of the longest open times of any of the current hybrid trim paints. That gives it plenty of time to level out. If you use soft-gloss again then I’d recommend skipping the roller and just brush the product on directly. You’ll still see brush marks but that’s the nature of a hand brushed finish.

[@timfischer1613]

First, thank you for your timely response. I believe you're correct when you said it's just the nature of hand application with a brush. I did do another door first using only a brush, but that actually was worse. Spraying would be the ultimate application for a smooth finish, but, as a homeowner that wouldn't use a sprayer that often, it's difficult to justify the expense for a quality sprayer. If you have a suggestion that would be GREAT. Also, I heard that SW did have an exterior paint paint that would level like Advance. You have the name of that paint? Thx for all your help!!

[@Gr8thxAlot]

I used to be an exclusive Ben Moore user, but the homeowner price of Regal Select is now $75/gallon, which is just too much. (And the staff would belly ache about custom colors.) The top of the line Diamond Vogel exterior paint is around $68/gallon, which is a lot, but under that $70 threshold. That's now my go to. If any of the top manufacturers allowed homeowners to get pro pricing, they could own the DIY market.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I’ve had a similar thought. We use Ben Moore for exterior and Sherwin Williams for interior with a few specialty products mixed in.

[@mikeysan01]

Again...not sure if you pay attention to old videos, but had a quick inquiry so figured I'd give it a shot. I'm going to repaint my mother's carport walls and ceilings, which are white...and from 1972. :) A bit of peeling paint above a dryer vent, and there are a few cracked spots along the walls, but otherwise I think all I need to do to prep it is wash the walls down. Had gone by SW before I tripped across this video and was pretty well convinced to go with their "Duration" white, with extra white tint and a hint of black thrown in. After watching this vid went to the closest BM store...and ended up dealing with a guy who seemed a bit clueless. Finally figured out I'd have to pick a specific shade of white in the Lustre for the carport walls. Their pricing is about $10 more per gallon than the SW Duration. Since this is exterior paint that won't be sitting in the sun, do you suspect that SW Duration would work fine? The folks at the SW store were very helpful in running through all the options, and offered cogent explanations why of the choices they had available they'd suggest Duration for this job. But after watching your video, I'm a bit concerned this may have been one of the ones you used before and determined didn't work long-term. Any insight you care to offer would be appreciated.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I’m assuming when you say carport that you’re painting the interior of a garage. In which case Duration or Emerald would work great on the walls. I went with Emerald matte in Extra White for my garage. Here’s my current load out for interior products in case you’re interested. My New Paint Load Out // 2023 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZbcn3iBiZqfpcU

[@mikeysan01]

@@SuperVassarBrothers I'm in Upstate SC...a carport is basically a garage with no doors, and this one is open in the back so air blows through from the front porch. :) Not in the direct sun, but also not suitable for interior paint. Thanks for the response!

[@wandadelacruz2486]

I’m will painting wood siding on a Victorian house. What do you recommend for durability?

[@taxdad9729]

Would you still recommend these products today or have they been reformulated to something worse, like the interior regal?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Excellent question. They haven't messed with either of these products recently, so they're still what we use for exterior work.

[@lms4986]

Jeremy I am so glad I found your channel, your content kicks a$$ for experienced DIYers. Any chance you have a series on painting kitchen cabinets in the pipeline? Could really use your guidance on that after your videos get us through painting the rest of the house. Thank you!

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Thanks for the feedback. Glad we could help. We don't paint kitchen cabinets, so not at this point. I'm sure someone on the KZbins would have a good series on that. Thanks again !

[@lms4986]

@@SuperVassarBrothers Ah bummer, but appreciate you getting back to me.

[@lms4986]

@@SuperVassarBrothers Hold up. Do you not do cabinets for reasons I might want to consider---like they are a total pita to get perfect, or the paint jobs do not hold up, etc etc. Feel free to lay some expectation management lessons on me

[@momscraftshacks5419]

What primer did you use for the exterior painting ??

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

When using these products, most of the time we don’t have to prime anything. If we do have to prime something then fresh start works well.

[@jimcoogan1529]

Great review. My house needs some work and I have a Benjamin Moore store right near me.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Thanks Jim!

[@kjl6138]

In your opinion, in what ways does Benjamin Moore’s exterior paint outperform Sherwin Williams?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

In my experience the Moorglo and MoorGuard are easier to work with and are capable of producing a better looking finish than the SW products.

[@michaelruth1819]

Would Moore Gard still be best for 50's block home in South West florida? Lots of rain and intense sun. The current paint that is on the house is peeling and kind of dusty underneath. I am going to try to scrape and pressure wash what I can off. Not sure if any is oil based. Do I need a certain primer? Thanks for the great video!

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I'd still go with Moorguard, but you might want to ask around and see what folks are using in your area. Moorguard and Moorglo both have good adhesion, so you can do a test spot and see if you get a good bond. If it's not bonding properly then you can try something like Fresh Start which is a great primer from Benjamin Moore.

[@michaelruth1819]

@SuperVassarBrothers Will do and thanks for the help!

[@chandracox6814]

I've got fiber cement board siding and I'm in Texas on some land with not many trees so my house will be hit with direct sun, humid climates and lots of storms. Which exterior paint should I select?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I’d still go with what I recommended in this video. MoorGuard for the siding and Moorglo for the trim and doors.

[@jj.4167]

Hey bro i m from india ....i want to know that does bm makes paint for indian hot conditions .....???

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I am not sure of the product offerings that BM has in India, but the two products I mention in this video work great in the heat. It gets pretty hot in PA during the summer and we use these products all the time in those conditions.

[@carolalmeida220]

Which is the cheapest for indoor sheet rock walls? Is water based cleanable? What is safe to wash them with?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Generally, cheap paint is not durable. We prefer Duration from Sherwin Williams. Superpaint is a less expensive and solid option from Sherwin Williams. Paints are rated for being wipeable with water. As soon as you start scrubbing you’ll mar the finish.

[@taxdad9729]

What is your opinion of SW Duration exterior paint? I need to paint some exterior window brick moulding and trim.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

It’s ok. I still prefer MoorGuard or Moorglo if I had a choice

[@okafka5446]

What's the difference between this and BM Aura Exterior? What sort of maintenance cycle do you suggest to your clients, when using Regal Exterior?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I haven’t used Aura exterior enough to give you a proper answer to your question. Moorglo Soft-Gloss and Moorgaurd Low Lustre and still working wonderfully for us so I don’t have a need to mess around with other products. I used the soft-gloss today as a matter of fact. I don’t suggest a maintenance cycle to clients. In my experience they get painting done when the surface starts to look like crap. Most people wait too long…🤷‍♂️

[@mr.l6982]

What is wrong with SW paint? Is BM Paint still better?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

We use SW paint for almost all of our interior painting. It's solid. For exterior I like the products that I went over in this video much better than SW current offerings for exterior.

[@kjl6138]

In your exterior projects such as aluminum siding, do you use a roller and brush, or spray?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

We don’t do many projects where we’re painting siding anymore. When we did we did both. It just depended on the situation.

[@Crossword131]

Im in a rush, im going to watch this at lunch, but does he cover oil based v latex? Im in an historic district and oil for exteriors is "the right thing to do." So are all of its good qualities not as desirable as water soluble clean up? What am I missing? I'll check back later after watching the video probably very red cheeked because the answer is in the video.... We'll see!

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Both of the paints I talk about in this video are hybrids. They have pretty good adhesion but you may still have to use a bonding primer to get them to adhere to your existing trim. As far as pure oil exterior paints, they are super uncommon. A lot of oil products got regulated away. Maybe there’s a product that is unique to your area that folks are using 🤷‍♂️

[@Crossword131]

@@SuperVassarBrothers NOLA. Are hybrids penetrating the wood, or do they sit on top like latex?

[@toddtonis]

What exterior primer would you use for a bare wood application using the Moorglo Soff Gloss paint? Thanks for making this video.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

You can use fresh start exterior wood primer or really any exterior wood primer. If you get any tannin bleed through then you can use an oil based exterior primer but most of the time that’s not necessary. Thanks for watching!

[@jhirn2957]

I just use SW rain refresh for my porch railing/spindles and super deck for the floors. The rain refresh was pretty pricy but was 35% off so $70/gallon. I really love it so far. My main concern is longevity on the deck. I goofed and primed everything and had to strip and sand the wood. Took me a month to complete everything but happy with the results (just don’t look under the stairs)

[@jhirn2957]

The diamabrush helped tremendously with stripping the paint. Took some practice to prevent gouging as it’s incredibly aggressive, but chemical strippers and 36 grit didn’t stand a chance. Get a dust shroud for you angle grinder. They sell on specific for dismabrush but a $20 one from Amazon worked well enough.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Decks are tricky. We actually stopped doing most of a lot of deck work because we were having issues with different product lines as the formulations changed. Sounds like you did all the right things with yours. Good work!

[@sparky9044]

@@SuperVassarBrothers do you recommend Rain refresh

[@bigred2359]

Is the Ben waterborne exterior the same as the moorgaurd? Also have you used this in a sprayer? if so how did it perform or do you recommend just using a brush?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

The Ben waterborne exterior is different from the Moore Guard. I haven't used the Ben exterior so I don't have an opinion on it. We did spray the Moore Glo once and it was great. We don't spray much anymore, but I would assume it would be fine.

[@taxdad9729]

When painting exterior window trim and pvc brick moulding with BM softgloss in June how long do you have to wait between coats and what primer do you recommend applying first?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

You can re-coat fairly quickly depending on conditions. 1-2 hours is reasonable if it’s warm out. If the trim has already been painted or is primed from the factory then you don’t need to prime. If it needs primer then pretty much any standard exterior primer will work.

[@stephenwhite5444]

Have you ever compared these to any PPG paints? Also, is BM like SW where you can set up a commercial acct and get a big discount?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

We haven't used PPG paints. For BM it depends on the store. The bigger BM retailers do have discounted commercial accounts. Ask and they will let you know.

[@vsrock23]

Flat tends to be recommended for stucco, so I'm wondering what made you favor low lustre? Thanks

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Flat provides very little protection from the elements and you can run into mold issues on the stucco that's painted flat. The Low Lustre provides more protection and looks quite nice on stucco.

[@67NewEngland]

- I’m considering switching to paint after 23 yrs of using solid stain on my clapboards because the sun hits 2 sides of my house hard and fades it quickly. Will I need to work across from a wet edge to prevent tons of lap marks with BM Low Luster like I had to with solid stain? Thanks.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

These are still my favorite exterior products. I’m using them on a job site today in fact. All the reasons I listed in the video remain true. Soft-gloss is awesome on trim, doors, and shutter. The low Lustre is great for all of your big surfaces. The finish quality is excellent if you lay it down right and it holds up in direct sunlight quite well.

[@dsciarrino3663]

Big Money 💰

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

This paint is worth the money in my experience. 🤑

[@solarsynapse]

Not a painter, looking for the best paint for 50 year old outdoor painted wood window and door trim. So far, Sherwin Williams Emerald, Behr Marquee and Benjamin Moore Regal Select seem to be the top contenders.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Well you know my vote. Moorglo Soft-Gloss for the win 🤙

[@solarsynapse]

Wow. Calling around, the big box stores either won't answer the phone or they are clueless. Lowe's has Sherwin Williams, Home Depot Behr and Menard's Dutch Boy. I found a somewhat local flooring store that answered the phone, was knowledgeable and has Benjamin Moore! BM it is!

[@travissingh6090]

Hey can i use exterior emulsion paint indoors?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

You can. Generally you're not going to get what is considered to be a high quality finish using an exterior paint indoors, but it'll work.

[@prophecynewschannel7398]

thanks man. I have a request. could you give me some tips on painting stucco? I have a house coming up and honestly ive never painted stucco. A video would be awesome

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Good idea. We'll put it in the pipeline. I would recommend using a good exterior flat paint. Also a good primer if it was not painted before. Sherwin Williams or Benny Moore have great stuff. Good luck!

[@last-life]

Which primer would you recommend for wood?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

If it’s raw wood then we use the exterior wood primer from Sherwin Williams. Benjamin Moore also has decent exterior wood primers.

[@last-life]

@@SuperVassarBrothers Awesome - thank you

[@chaddisisto4915]

Hello, do you still recommend regal select exterior over sherwin Williams emerald or duration? Also have you painted LP smart siding panels that look like t1-11 and are pre primed? If so do you recommend going directly over the factory primer coat? Thanks for any info.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Yes you can go over the factory primer with your finish paint. I’m still a big fan of Moorglo soft-gloss and MoorGuard low lustre for exteriors. It’s what I use on all of my exterior work.

[@chaddisisto4915]

@@SuperVassarBrothers excellent thank you, repairing and residing the front of my garage and eventually the whole garage and house,planning on low luster Essex Green with white pvc trim, hoping it’s a good color combo, iam no decorator lol.

[@epicjas0n]

I'm painting an 8x10 shed that has wood textured panels. Should I use the "high build" version to hide panel gaps and cover nails holes or will the regular version shown in your video be good enough?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I have never used the "high build" version so I can't speak to that. Usually we fill nail holes and larger gaps with exterior putty. Then we use Moorguard Low Lustre on the main areas and Moorglo Soft-Gloss on the trim pieces.

[@giang-tienmoore3464]

@@SuperVassarBrothers Hi, What exterior putty do you recommend?

[@samsohi7862]

Which paint is your favorite for spray painting an old house with brick walls?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

We no longer do big exterior jobs, so that's a bit out of my wheelhouse. You've gotta make sure that you use a masonry primer like Loxon first if the bricks haven't been previously painted. Then you can go over them with a good exterior paint like Moorgaurd Low Lustre.

[@fenceman7067]

What brush do you use for soft gloss

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I prefer the Corona Cortez 2 1/2 inch

[@fenceman7067]

Really enjoy your videos great content Thank you

[@fenceman7067]

Can't find Corona brushes locally would have to purchase online hate to be a pain but could you tell me the model number of the paintbrush that you like they are many Corona Cortez brushes not really sure which to order

[@Igor-q3f]

When spraying is not an option, What would you use for the smooth metal exterior front door and door trim and couple new smooth columns? Benjamin Moore doesn’t have anything like emerald urethane. Does soft gloss leave brush lines and roller texture on smooth surfaces? On second floor it doesn’t matter but on front entry I see a lot of brush lines and texture on new columns from even the smoothest roller. Wish Benjamin Moore would have a exterior trim enamel like emerald urethane or behr hybrid trim enamel.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Their Advance paint may work. But if you like SW Urethane go with that one. Great product.

[@johnwhite2576]

You like these better than aura?

[@momscraftshacks5419]

Can you plz suggest a exterior primer which is a reasonable price

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I’m not sure what you consider reasonable or what your application is. Fresh start is a solid option that works for a variety of applications.

[@momscraftshacks5419]

@SuperVassarBrothers right now thinking to get KILZ 3 premium Primer. What are your thoughts about it for exterior painting .is it a good brand

[@josefernandez2722]

Thanks again for the review. I am going to repaint my front steel door and I am planning to use soft gloss. What primers can I use with this? Also, would this work with an oil-based primer?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

If the door has already been painted then you probably don't have to prime it. If you do prime it, any exterior multi-purpose primer would work. Most oil primers are made so that they can be top coated with a regular (non-oil based) paint, so you're good there too. Good luck with your front door!

[@josefernandez2722]

@@SuperVassarBrothers thank you for your advice. Much appreciated

[@ewilson9661]

What is a good exterior acrylic paint for a high heat desert area? Flat white on hardieplank and low sheen on Doug Fir ...

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I would go with what I recommend in this video. MoorGuard Low Lustre for your big areas and Morglo Soft-Gloss for trim and doors.

[@NiamHmoobMuas]

Would the soft gloss be ideal for regular garage doors? I’m not sure what garage doors are make of but I need a white paint refresh on my garage door.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Soft gloss would work great on your garage door. If you like the sheen (shine) of soft gloss then you'll love it. We use it for all our exterior trim and exterior doors.

[@chaddisisto4915]

Hello, I’ve been using sherwin Williams emerald and emerald urethane on a couple bedrooms. Is the exterior version crap? What are the differences between emerald exterior and the regal select exterior that you have noticed? Also have you used the sw porch and floor paint for exterior wood and or concrete steps ? I have a few different projects that iam going to be doing and I started with sherwin Williams based on ur emerald interior and trim paint reviews. Should I consider changing to Ben Moore for future projects? Thanks for your input

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

So Emerald Exterior isn't crap. It's a decent exterior product. If you're having success with it then you can keep using it. I still prefer the Moorglo and Moorguard for how easy it is to work with, and the finish quality. It works super well in direct sunlight and the Moorglo Soft-Gloss is still far and away my favorite for exterior doors, shutters and trim. I'm also quite use to working with it, and I haven't used Emerald exterior nearly as much, so take that for what you will. If you have some exterior doors or trim to paint, then give Moorglo a try and see what you think. I have used porch and floor quite a bit. It's decent for wood. You may want to try Heavy Shield from Sherwin Williams for your concrete steps. I just did my garage floor and basement floor with it, and I was quite happy with the results. Super easy to use, and it's holding up well so far.

[@chaddisisto4915]

@@SuperVassarBrothers thanks for the reply. I haven’t tried emerald exterior, just interior and trim/door versions so far. I just wanted to make sure the exterior wasn’t terrible before I tried it, if I go that route. Sounds good, I’ll try the porch and floor for my wood steps. I will look into the heavy shield for my mother’s concrete steps, I have to clean up the old paint and adhesive first, but I may need to parge coat them first. Thanks for the feedback 👍

[@johnwhite2576]

Would you prime true rxterior /boral flyash board?

[@jj.4167]

How is the quality of dulux paints ...compare to bm and sw.....??

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I’ve never used Dulux so I got nothing on that one.

[@RandyBrownlee-c2r]

what would you recommend for priming before you use soft gloss for trim?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

That depends on what you’re priming. For the majority of exterior trim, a standard exterior latex primer will be sufficient. For raw wood, then you may need to go with an exterior wood primer.

[@josefernandez2722]

Thanks. I want to paint my front steel door with Moor glo. What type of brush and roller do you think works best for this? Also do you like INSLX primer as an undercoat?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Most of the time you don't have to prime the metal door because they come factory primed, but that's your call. I usually hand brush the whole door with a 2 1/2inch Corona Vegas. That's my favorite brush for trim and doors. If you are going to roll the door then I'd go with a 1/4inch nap woven roller. The tight nap will give you a more "sprayed" looking finish.

[@josefernandez2722]

@@SuperVassarBrothers I really appreciate the response. I am repainting it to a similar color. I figured since it's steel itl could use some help for the paint to stick.

[@BelindaTN]

So is this paint also used in paint sprayers?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Yes you can use it in sprayers.

[@fernandollanez4698]

Can it be sprayed

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Yes, they both can be sprayed.

[@ridgehall1612]

What primer should I use for aluminum and metal siding?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I just replied to this comment on the other video you commented on. Good luck with your project!

[@chrisroyles4291]

What would you paint fiberglass columns that have a woodgrain texture?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I’d go with the soft gloss that I mention in this video. Here’s a video demonstrating how I paint fiberglass columns and I use soft gloss on them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZXLq6WOi9CkfMU

[@chrisroyles4291]

Why not the low luster which you recommend for wood siding?

[@dangrimes5078]

i don't understand $55 to $65 per gallon. i can barely buy the cheapest Behr paint for that.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

This video was from a couple of years ago. Prices have risen since then, but this is still my go-to exterior paint.

[@jackwardley3626]

linseed paint is best for exterior woodwork any plastic paint can cause wet rot. and flakes

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Mmmkay. I don’t know of any exterior guys that are using that type of product, but I’ll keep an eye out for it.

[@mikeromagnoli5234]

Benjamin Moore is such a bet yes r product than Sherwin Williams! Love Regal!

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Indeed! Thanks for watching!

[@chrisbelgrade7902]

Is soft gloss like a semi-gloss

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

It's closer to satin which is a step down from semi-gloss. It's considered a "factory" finish.

[@neomatrix4412]

BEHR DYNASTY® Exterior Paint?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I have never used it so I don’t have an opinion either way. 🤷‍♂️

[@neomatrix4412]

@@SuperVassarBrothers okay SHerman Williams Emerald ?

[@bradvincet1848]

I watched another KZbin channel that claimed Sherwin Williams and Benjamin Moore are living off their name and not worth the extra money. Any truth to this?

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

That's a rather broad statement, and I'd be curious as to what paint they are recommending. Sherwin Williams and Benjamin Moore both make some great paint and some crappy paint. It really depends on what line of paint you are using from each brand. I don't disagree that paint is getting expensive. We've had several price increases recently, but that's true for all paints regardless of the brand. There are some products that I think are over priced from both companies, but I also think they have some great paints that perform well and are worth the money. Morglo and MoorGuard are great examples. All of the professional painters that I know use Sherwin Williams, Benjamin Moore, or a combination of the two.

[@bradvincet1848]

​@@SuperVassarBrothers he preferred Behr paints.

[@stanreaper3080]

​@@bradvincet1848 personally, I would unfollow that channel. Some Behr products cover quite well but they have horrible sagging and workability issues in my experience. .

[@dennis17116]

I used sherwin Williams emerald over this stuff.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I’ve used emerald as well and it’s decent. My preference is still Moorglo and MoorGuard

[@fogoman73]

Seems like you guys have switched from SW to BM. That's what i sense from the videos , anyways

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

Yes and no. Interior we use Sherwin Williams. Except when they are out of stock (supply issues) or a client specifically asks for BM. Exterior we use BM. The regal select eggshell by BM is great for walls, but we don't like BM ceiling paint or trim paint as much.

[@vsk8000]

Which paint would you recommend for front steps and landing.

[@SuperVassarBrothers]

I'd recommend Porch and Floor Enamel from Sherwin Williams. I've used that a fair amount and it seems to hold up well. Most paint companies have a version of that product, but that's the one I've used the most. You can also add sand or another gritty additive if you need it to be more grippy. Good luck with your project!