Support Guide - Mid/Late Game Macro (Win conditions, Objectives, Warding,) - League of Legends

[@MisterNightfish]

I've been doing the "play around most fed player" quite a bit and my ADC almost always takes it personally. My guy. You flashed into the enemy tower on level 2 and you are 0/5/1 despite my best efforts. It's time for me to let you go.

[@ShoDesu]

Even in Challenger, you will still gets ADCs that cry all game. it doesnt get any better in high elo 😭

[@MisterNightfish]

@@ShoDesu Yea, I've seen that on streams :D In all honesty, I sometimes have the impression that people in challenger have less fun with the game than people in mid-range MMR.

[@dzigayu4944]

If your adc says some dumbass thing instantly full mute them, you have you have to realize most ADCs run on a "I'm the protagonist, I must 1v9 carry" mentality and crumble the second thing doesn't go as they want, and will blame the closest thing for all of their mistakes.

[@TheKittyClink]

Those players are bad and won't ever climb you ignore them and leave them in the dust. That's how I got to master playing supp among other things ofc but ADC players are either chill or complete man children lol either way I sign up for ranked for LP not tp impress some baddie :)

[@growtocycle6992]

I find the jingler is more often the best player to follow in low ELO

[@teka3508]

im always lost at a point in the game where i dont know what to do. Tanks you very much i was loooking for a video like this this is very clear the best guide so far

[@danielf2651]

Great vid, please make more. These in depth vids on support concepts are so good, most don't go beyond they basics since those apply to the widest audience.

[@ShoDesu]

Really glad you enjoyed it and will do. My plan for these type of videos is to cover a lot of fundamentals with a mix of basic and advanced concepts!

[@GojuMusic]

I don't normally comment on league videos ever, but I have to say your content is so amazingly tangible and easy to follow. I peak Diamond 1 on both ADC and Support and I am just realizing how much of the fundamentals I am not paying enough attention to or just forget about because they're not habitual yet. Thanks for making these guides!

[@ShoDesu]

Thank you for such kind words 😭😭

[@yensiivevop]

Great job bro, I truly was struggling to understand why I would always loose mid/late even though I was far ahead, accessing the wincon is a game changer, seriously. Welll done.

[@CoolDudeWithGlasses93]

I thought I knew the game, but these couple videos proved me wrong. There is so much information I need to memorize and I cannot wait to apply them in my future games. Thank you for this. Subscribed !

[@ShoDesu]

Glad you learned from them! Good luck in your games! 😄

[@manuelmanolo7099]

Some things I knew and other things I knew instinctively but there is a special value in having it all layed out in front of you. Thank you!

[@dearboothworld1730]

This playlist is incredibly helpful to a new player. Thank you.

[@Zoutarah37]

Hey Sho, thank you so much for your guides! I’m a mid-gold support main and with your guides I’ve found out just how bad at macro I am. It’s inspired me to get better to say the least, and after trying some of your tactics I already see a huge difference in my games. My only question at this point, is what to do in the situation where I’m falling behind on xp? I realize now that I’m supposed to live in the jungle during group downtime, and while everyone else is farming for gold and xp, I’m starting to fall behind 2-5 levels. I understand solo laners are supposed to be ahead, but with the enemy support being 2 levels above me I really feel like I should be surviving better especially if I’m building tanky on my champions. Again, thank you so much for your content. I really appreciate it. ❤

[@ShoDesu]

Hi Zoutarah! Happy to hear that you are enjoying the videos :)! Support is a role where it is okay to fall behind EXP wise because your ADC will be soaking in the EXP you are "missing." As long as your team is getting EXP/Gold from all the lanes and the jungle, you will be cumulatively matching the enemy team, so its okay that you are behind the enemy support if your ADC is ahead. That being said, there is definitely a balance. I dont think you should ever be behind 3+ levels of the enemy support at any point of the game. (I think 2 levels is fine when your team is behind and the enemy gets a lot of of objectives). It's a little hard for me to know what you are doing wrong because I don't have a vod from your game, but I think you need to hover in EXP range for whichever lane you are trying to set up a play for.

[@kimjiwonisagod2331]

great video sho please continue fully supporting you

[@liamdc1227]

thanks for the guide, really comprehensible even for low elo players!

[@seniorazer5249]

big thanks for the mid/Late macro guide! i already knew how to play in lane/early, but always struggled to know how to play outside of lane D: hopefully im gonna climb more now :)

[@MrBaf84]

This helps a lot for support players, keep up good work

[@JunTheDude32]

In very low elos, most "fed player" is often replaced by "smartest player" because it's more important to have a reliable teammate than one that ints at crucial times

[@MrAwesomePersonality]

I haven’t played league in 5 years, maybe longer. I was also a jungled. These vids are all well made I almost even tried to play again(Lol almost). Hope to see you grow crazy

[@ShoDesu]

Thank you!! One of these videos will get ya 😛

[@psychdelicpurple621]

good video again

[@ShoDesu]

HUGE!! CONGRATS ON MASTERS!!

[@anaxagoras9812]

Good guide. I'm an ADC player but you always learn from these videos. :)

[@footballcrafters]

Great video! Keep on going brother!

[@Tristan-bi3ee]

Great Video would love to see more annie commentarys

[@ShoDesu]

thank you! Unfortunately, not doing anymore Annie commentaries :(. I usually do one commentary for a champion thats super meta. If you enjoy these type of commentaries you can check out my stream/twitch vods!

[@Aureosol]

nice video, thanks for the information

[@guillermovalenzuela5962]

Hi! I've been watching all of these, super educational! I have a question; would you say now as supports we should roam to help with grubs? How to know if jungler will be there to contest it too, if your adc can manage with you being so far away, if you should go on both instances of grubs, one or none...

[@ShoDesu]

Next video will cover this

[@guillermovalenzuela5962]

@@ShoDesu Nice, thank you!

[@MegaGaga99]

Good video, keep going like this :)

[@tavmata]

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[@pk.9436]

great guide!

[@lsvbetmachineRU]

Great video, thanks

[@majus9324]

hey desu, great compact video about macro. its a good reminder. while i am aware of most of the things i struggle a bit by constantly remind me of them ingame. i tend to autopilot from time to time. while its good to know these things i struggle alot with setting up vision or get plays done from behind, because i dont know how to play from behind if there is noone in my team thats fed or ahead. any tips? or is it just lost or just waiting for enemies to fail palys? or is it crossmapping as much as i can? thx alot for your videos

[@kristinl.7063]

Awesome stuff

[@growtocycle6992]

Should support ever take sweeper instead of ward? Sweeper vs control ward??

[@Julian-7X]

very good!

[@judemaij5316]

YO LMAO, I LOVE IT

[@Συγχαρητηρια-β1ι]

Also i think the guides for adcs should contain a step by step self ticket instruction so i dont have to elaborate on how my adc gave up a 6k gold lead at 15mn with no objective up.

[@_Creaux]

🐐

[@nps1024]

So... I've already been doing all this stuff... Why are my games so random then (whether I win or lose them)?

[@JJDEsq.]

Freakishly high quality video...not enough views.

[@ShoDesu]

Thank you!! Felt like a professor on this video 👨‍🏫

[@deepwaters6151]

good bideo :D

[@ShoDesu]

good comment

[@mamaneww]

Play around the msot fed player, then they start doing plays that make no sense and end up feeding too. Juat had a 7/0 aatrox run into 5 cus hes fed

[@herbls]

YO

[@ShoDesu]

YO

[@Συγχαρητηρια-β1ι]

Guys one of the reason adcs act like this is because they have to deal with a huge amount of autofills and they are not able to trust and play with actual supports. E g. O roam topside after we crushed 2 waves got flash top , herald mid tower , and the adc greed 3 cs and got dove and then left the game

[@Link_240]

just one thing, if you have to explain what a 50/50 is, then calling a control ward something it hasnt been called in like...7 years doesnt help. just my opinion.

[@ShoDesu]

TBH, I totally forgot its called a control ward and not a pink. thats my bad haha

[@MisterNightfish]

@@ShoDesu To be fair, everyone calls them pink wards all the time, so I see nothing wrong with it. I only came back to league a few months ago, after about 10 years, and I've heard more people say "pink ward" than I have heard "control ward".

[@Link_240]

@@ShoDesu its natural lol. but for newer people it might be confusing