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@Demodare6 ай бұрын
I hate being negative to you but doesn't this add seem a little suspicious. Like this isn't steam or riot supported so how does this work or make money. Sorry if there's something I'm missing. Tldr add seems sus
@omnizoom6 ай бұрын
@@Demodare im curious as well, how are they cheaper then direct from riot?
@theillogicalmindset6 ай бұрын
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@crazzluz17026 ай бұрын
This is scummy as fuck. Websites like this that sell RP/loot at a "discount" get them by hacking accounts or with stolen credit cards. You're aiding actual theft. Unsubbed and will never watch any of your content again.
@HerrSchnabeltier4 ай бұрын
Play qqawqaaqq
@nicholasavasthi98796 ай бұрын
An interesting and somewhat frustrating part of playing enchanter supports, especially ones like Soraka and Sona, is that because their heals go fairly unnoticed it gives people an over-estimation of their own champion’s current strength. Which can lead to players taking fights when the support is not present that they cannot win, but believe they can, since they don’t realize how much of their survivability is dependent on their support’s presence.
@MattHatter3606 ай бұрын
Milio is extremely dangerous because of this, tons of time I have to remind my team not to fight without me for this exact reason
@maciejkleszczynski98086 ай бұрын
Lost a lot of Ivern games because of that. Jinx gets a pentakill with full hp because she gets a huge shield every 4 seconds and Daisy peel; then proceeeds to engage and die againt one enemy as soon as i am not next to her.
@cloudynguyen65276 ай бұрын
I think it's because League is a scaling game so enchanter's healing is purposefully made weak so it can be impactful in late game. Whereas in DOTA 2, enchanters are rare but they do exist. You can level up their spells and their impact are still slightly better or have reduced cooldown. Because their base kit are kept strong so they are reliable at level 1. This applies to every hero
@azimrobertson6 ай бұрын
Well said... some of these adc think they unkillable because they got 3 kills early game sitting under my soraka... worst part is i recall to buy and item leaving them in lane alone and boom they are dead😂😂😂
@tobisupersmart6 ай бұрын
I’ve had this happen so many times I can’t even count. I love when my fed Darius runs into 5 people without me and ints a shutdown because he didn’t realize I, the Soraka, am the reason he got fed
@Tiki1006 ай бұрын
Also being support is great it makes you ready to be parent I swear it may seem easy, but preventing a suicidal baby from dying for 30 minutes is not the easiest thing to do
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
It's hard when they don't listen though
@necroprwa6665 ай бұрын
Very well said.
@scottwagner25662 ай бұрын
Probably why I stopped playing League once I had kids. I spend all my waking moments taking care of children, don't want to do it with my limited free time.
@minilinisinibini6 күн бұрын
Try to carry tho.Its harder
@MasakanSolaris6 ай бұрын
Someone has to be the adult in the room.
@Elimbi16 ай бұрын
LMAO
@ibrav79796 ай бұрын
Or the gay girlypop yas slay pur slay enchanter (Serious, no judgement)
@ongseungwu43116 ай бұрын
@@ibrav7979 or just being yuumi on afk
@aabeeek6 ай бұрын
I always thought about the team that jungler is the dad who does most important stuff, while support is the mom who makes sure their children do not kill themselves in the meantime. (ADC is the youngest child who keeps trying to put fork into electric socket).
@nicklasveva6 ай бұрын
The role that has some of the most toxic players? Imagine. Bot and mid are the most toxic roles.
@Milkiia6 ай бұрын
Played a game where I perfectly timed a taric ult for a team fight and the only one who react was the enemy adc to complain about their own support
@francogonz6 ай бұрын
HAHAHAH dammnn also a Taric main here 😂. Nobody knows how much Taric impacts on game, except the enemy
@StonedDragons6 ай бұрын
Had a game a couple of weeks ago where I went 5/9/40 as Taric support (the team basically expected me to engage as the only tank, hence the deaths). About 45 minutes in, enemy team had just cleaned up Baron and my team was just walking in and out of bushes like chickens with their heads cut off trying to work up enough intestinal fortitude to go in... So I took it upon myself, said yolo and popped ult running into the entire enemy team. Got hit by every form of CC known to mankind, laughted, started hammering Q while hitting their Garen and my team swept in and cleaned up. We won the game off of that ace just rolling down mid, not a word of thanks. I had damn near 100% kill participation, massive vision score and I believe soaked the most damage out of anyone on the team.
@Milkiia6 ай бұрын
@@francogonz adc could survive an assassin full combo and don't even wonder where all that extra health came from
@samara52796 ай бұрын
I really hate doing well and seeing the enemy flame their own support in chat. Like shut up, we all have good and bad games. Bullying them is not going to help, and likely will only stress them out. I respect my fellow supports. That being said if anyone happens to be one of those toxic supports that likes to cry support diff in chat, I have to wonder if you need help irl because the desperate for attention is wild.
@belivuk25265 ай бұрын
Perfect description of the support experience
@lillyie6 ай бұрын
support is the role where you can do 100 good things and no one bats an eye, but do 1 bad thing suddenly it's support diff
@vroomzoom42066 ай бұрын
You only think you're doing good. You probably griefing
@aabeeek6 ай бұрын
Jungler: First time?
@MrIljuha20006 ай бұрын
Well jungle is also a macro-reliant champion, laner carries usually blame supports and jungle for not assisting and coordinating the game, regardless if they won or lost the lane@@hitmanmastodon1580
@eprjct6 ай бұрын
That's way more like JG tbh. No one really cares about the support other than the ADC, therefore no one is going to blame someone who they 'think' does not have control over the game. Even ADC would split their blame between JG and Sup, but they are ADC, they blame everyone.
@anon19636 ай бұрын
you can say that about literally any role
@BLKCLVR6 ай бұрын
I've been maining ADC for like 6 years now. I genuinely cannot believe that people think supp is weak or useless. They're probably the single strongest role outside of jungle. I can't count how many times I've seen a support absolutely suffocate an entire enemy team, it's unreal what an excellent player can do.
@LifelineCleric6 ай бұрын
As a support main we greatly appreciate adcs that relize how much we help them ❤️
@Zobuyta6 ай бұрын
Plz say you play euw I need a respectful dude
@jansyrovatka40906 ай бұрын
@@LifelineCleric And we ADC mains appreciate when we have sup with brain.
@AGuy-07516 ай бұрын
Sup is better than jungle for the fact that they don't have to farm and get to almost entirely ignore wave state unless a dive is happening
@Zobuyta6 ай бұрын
@@AGuy-0751 from that I can understand you are plat or lower because supports care about the wave A LOT you clearly don't know shit
@poisonedoak65636 ай бұрын
I love how people rate supports solely on their k/d Not their k/d/a Their k/d
@gggris29606 ай бұрын
And the minute your k/d is good they want to flame for ks.
@kurrwa6 ай бұрын
That’s only show how low they are 😂😂😂😂
@linksystothepast6 ай бұрын
This pisses me off everytime. I could go 2/5/15 as lux but the mid who's 2/8/1 will say "well lux you're 2/5 your assists don't matter" like....sorry would you have rather me take those kills? My job was shield, cc, and the poke damage. I did mine. Why didn't you do yours ? It's asinine.
@MeyPL5 ай бұрын
that's exactly how it is, you will play like 1/8/24, your adc has most kills still its your fault the team that won actually lost not their stupid decisions at all and they will tell you at the end "rep supp"
@gambaru555 ай бұрын
@@linksystothepast well you play mage support, while its not ok to get all the kill you still need to do damage to does your job to the fullest, but if the adc blames you for it then they should expect it from the start when you pick mage support.
@briargray23556 ай бұрын
Something that could've been touched on that's strongly related to this: Pick order. As someone who plays support, I will usually only swap to pick earlier for the top laner, since their lane is the most heavily matchup impacted. Otherwise, I will hold onto last or second-to-last pick, which frequently makes the people in my lobby absolutely screech when I turn down their trade request. Like, my dudes, support isn't *just* a counterpick sensitive role, it's also the role expected to round out your team comp or negate the enemy's team comp. In soloQ, the amount of people who refuse to hover their pick so I can plan mine is absolutely staggering. Since they don't hover, I can't pick to compliment them unless I pick last. And if I can't pick to compliment, I need to pick to counter, which also requires me picking last. The mentality being that since support is the "least important", they should always be willing to swap you into the pick order position you want. But I'm the support, not your UwU "yes master whatever u want" doormat. If the enemy team is hard wave pushers and the rest of my team picked champs with poor waveclear, I need to pick a mage support capable of one-shotting waves. If they're heavy on key CC, I should lock in Morgana. Hell if I see they have a bunch of autoattacking hypercarries, I'll lock in Teemo and build full CDR to perma-blind them. These are decisions I just straight up cannot make if I pick early. Support's power is it's freedom and adaptability, and if you take away the support's ability to make informed decisions, you've basically crippled one of your teammates. Also, ADCs that have it in their head that you're *their* support. No honey, I support the team, not just you. If anything I'm way more concerned with getting the jungler ahead because their impact is larger and generally they're less prone to getting insta-popped the moment a Yone looks at them.
@b00fdi396 ай бұрын
THANKS FOR THIS COMMENT.
@azimrobertson6 ай бұрын
This comment right here
@ddobleg16236 ай бұрын
I usually swap my pick with the top laner, the amount of times they lost the lane even when counter picking the enemy top and not getting ganked is wild. When I gotta pick first I just lock in senna since I otp her and I might be able to manage the game out but sometimes I can't and my teammates seem to have short term memory cause they can't remember I had to blind pick
@MrHurican16 ай бұрын
90% of Players Need to read this Post
@Samuel-wl4fw6 ай бұрын
Pick order is top 》mid 》 support 》adc 》 jungle (depending on adc, it can be also be last). Adc is sometimes more important if they have harder counters or are really good into some matchups. Nilah is great into draven, zeri and twitch for example and horrible into long poke. Kog maw has no hard counters. Rammus and assasains can be bad first pick junglers since they are much less relevant in tanky comps. Supports have some of the least impactful counterpicking unless you play morgana. Most matchups are alright. I think you should also try adc. Being subjugated to playing adc without support is like playing half a champ and why I don't play adc without duo. Solo queue is much better as mid, top or support since they have more agency and have kits that aren't reliant on teammates (at least enhancers and mage sups are op early).
@ultimateracer_6 ай бұрын
As a zilean main, I dont need my team's thanks, I thrive on the psychological damage I deal to the enemy team
@swavii43376 ай бұрын
Fly high and fly far you absolute King.
@batmorokk6 ай бұрын
hahaha so true!
@ze_darku_magician55046 ай бұрын
I can relate to that. I once played Syndra APC with a Zilean support. He'd throw his bombs on a minion and I'd yeet the minion towards the enemies. Funniest shit ever.
@callmeriggy6 ай бұрын
@@ze_darku_magician5504 emotional damage carry.
@nah-dx3wc6 ай бұрын
Zilean pisses people off so much, its hilarious. I was harassing the enemies viego for an entire game once and bro was complaining about me the whole game
@TheDjpwn36 ай бұрын
"A good roadie (or in this case, support) knows his whole job is to make someone else look good, keep someone else safe, help someone else do whay they were put here to do. A good roadie stays out of the spotlight. Once in a while he might step on stage, just to fix a problem, to set something right. But before you even know that he was there, or what he did, he's gone." - Eddie Riggs (Brütal Legend)
@mordecai86516 ай бұрын
glad to see someone else thought of this connection haha
@luizotavio446 ай бұрын
love that game
@JimJPoggers6 ай бұрын
Keria lives in the spotlight and we love it :D
@hyne12346 ай бұрын
that would be a great analogy if the roadies were 20% of the band, and wrote the lyrics, instead of just being paid laborers.
@luizotavio446 ай бұрын
@@hyne1234 it still gets the point across
@Hououin8186 ай бұрын
You do get recognition for playing well as a sp but mostly from the enemy team
@digibeastgaming28146 ай бұрын
this is too real, usually the enemy adc notices when a support is doing well
@b00fdi396 ай бұрын
@@digibeastgaming2814If only their ADC notices, youre not Roaming enough. Make their mid and Jungle suffer too ;)
@mal93696 ай бұрын
I feel like the disrespect that supports get is indicative of the wider attitude issue league has at large. People simply do not recognize their team for what they do, and as supports have the most nebulous and hard to directly observe impact, they get the least appreciation. The key is that people need to get their heads out of their asses and just be nice to each other bc every role comes with difficulties and challenges, and every player is doing something well that you don't see. Just a shame that half the player base has such a serious ego problem they need to put in a time out lmao
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
True. Ultimately it's a team effort, but people really forget that thinking they can solo matches.
@thekingofawesomeness91736 ай бұрын
Everyone wants a meat shield and healing but no one wants to thank them for it. Everyone just thanks whoever gets the most kills. I've seen that in all games that have tanks and supports
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
Right. I play wild rift and I can't tell you how many times I've done all that AND secured kills (getting high performance) and most times I may only get one person to thank me for that. IF that
@poom3236 ай бұрын
Maybe you should try K'sante support, it can send you to other dimension or multiverse. Recently, I spam K'sante support quite a lot. Somehow, my teammate always thank me, and even my adc always sorry when they make mistake. It's not just one game but almost every games.
@boogereater696 ай бұрын
Which is why when I get that 0/2/31 thresh I tell him he was the hard fucking carry because they don’t get told that they play well enough.
@Raeeechel6 ай бұрын
Tbh when im taliyah and set up a lot of plays for my team, i got 3 honours
@adrianr94546 ай бұрын
As a Sona main, I can honestly say that, after a 30/40 min game where I must keep an eye on the map, vision, pings, take care of everyone without dying, buying the correct items, positioning correctly during any fight and keep a cool, calm and collected temper while everyone else flaming eachother or me, I am bruned out mentally, which makes me stop playing League for a few days. At the same time, when I have an ADC that can read the map and knows how to play with me without me having to write to him is just.....ugh, amazing. Great video Vars, thank you for your work!
@gggris29606 ай бұрын
This is so true, I've just started playing ranked and I could only play 2, 3 games a day before I get mentally drained, worse yet if my team is incompetent, I might just play that game alone and be done.
@tobisupersmart6 ай бұрын
Sona main, I hate when my adc doesn’t want to play aggressive during laning phase (exceptions are if we NEED to play safe with a good Draven/naut or cait/lux) or stand parallel to me/is too scared to farm. I play so much better with an adc with good positioning. They don’t trust my healing or damage or speed boost.
@SaiKisaragi6 ай бұрын
I am so sorry for your loss. I stopped reading at “Sona main” and cried.
@OrbitDPS6 ай бұрын
What?! You have to do all the things everyone on the team has to? No way 😮
@gggris29606 ай бұрын
@@OrbitDPS Because every role gets to buy support items that gives them extra wards right? Pipe down.
@メシャ6 ай бұрын
As a long time support player, THANK YOU for shining light on this massive issue. I like playing support, tanks and enchanters, not to blow my own trumpet but i'm quite good at it, but i just rarely ever want to because it's incredibly stressful micromanaging 9 other players, 5 of which are enemies and 4 who might as well be, all while receiving nothing in return, since as you so eloquently put it supports don't get a singular moment to shine with a visible play often, but rather hundreds of small decisions throughout the game that contribute to victory. It's true that support may have the lowest mechanical skill floor of all the roles, but being a GOOD support requires a lot of knowledge, split second decisions and SO MUCH PATIENCE.
@JuristPugilist6 ай бұрын
I don’t even agree about the mechanical skill comparison. You have such little room for error on supports because you have no farm and you’re under-leveled. Sure, you don’t have to last hit, which is like the easiest part of the game. But you have to impact team fights when one wrong step means you’re dead.
@メシャ6 ай бұрын
@@JuristPugilist yep. other roles deal with positioning, landing skills and dodging too, but with supports it's worse since you're always underleveled and weaker. even worse if you're an enchanter since you also get targeted more
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
I disagree. As a support main you HAVE to have the fundamentals down like no other. Your map awareness has to be better than everyone else's too.
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
@user-kv4yb8ec8i that too. And you have to find a way around it as well. Not to mention having to make up for clueless carries that blame you for their own mistakes
@EzOddz6 ай бұрын
@@abnormalnoxBro like the supports you see in bronze and silver are a different breed of stupid. Like legit I watched a nami miss ult, the enemy were all in the center of midlane just a few teemos away but somehow she manages to throw ult at the wall away from midlane I rest my case. Playing adc with support, 50% winrate but playing alone toplane 85% winrate its just so different. Put a support main in toplane or midlane it'll be a disaster.
@cebokhumalo6026 ай бұрын
I remember this one match I had when I first started playing. I was playing Morgana. For some unexplainable reason (At the very start of the match) our Mid-lane Yasuo completely abandoned their lane to play Bot. Mid was completely vacated for at least 3 minutes and no-one ever bothered to try to cover Mid. Our Top-laner stayed at Top. Our Bot laner stayed at Bot and our Jungler kept ganking Bot and sometime Top but left Mid completely empty. There was a point in the match where there was 4 of us at Bot... I ended up having to rotating to Mid (since no-one else wanted to), doing my absolute just to make sure that they don't just steam roll our Mid turrets I was so annoyed to have found myself somehow playing Mid. it took the whole team far too long to even acknowledge that Mid was a thing that match. by the time anyone came to help. It was already a lost cause. Needless to say, we lost. and I did do my best but a Morgana vs Yone in Mid wasn't a good match-up, especially when I was still relatively new to the game... But the thing that will always pissed me off the most, was when that same Yasuo had the nerve to ask me way I even bothered playing Mid when I was so bad and that "I was useless, and I should have stuck to my job"... If he did his job and not trying to do mine, I wouldn't have had done his job... if he's somehow reading this. Sincerely, from the very bottom of my heart and soul "FUCK YOU!!!!" Sorry for venting, this video in particular reminded me of the bullshit I deal with every so often as a support.
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
Nah. I've had moments like this playing senna. Even karma last night in wild rift. Our first turret is under attack and Kai'sa just decides to farm the jungle camp near us and let our turret go down...we still won, but I was just thinking "why?"
@kamikazelemming15526 ай бұрын
@@abnormalnox Had a game the other day. I was Asol Support, and my ADC was Smolder. We were up against Briar and Anivia, and that game I learned how well those two champs work together. Anivia would keep placing walls and Briar would push us into them, shred our health, and kill us almost instantly. The kicker is that Smolder, despite performing just as badly as I was that game, had the gall to tell me to leave lane and roam, as if he could somehow defeat both Briar and Anivia on his own. Needless to say, we lost that game.
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
@kamikazelemming1552 I've had my share of games with teammates that think they know what they're doing but actually dont.. it's not fun
@dragonsreingsupreme16 ай бұрын
@@kamikazelemming1552you won't like to hear this but the adc was making the right call there. Him telling you to go roam isn't an insult or blaming the lane on you like your comment implies but is instead the adc trying to employ basic adc macro. If you loose that hard in lane the best you can do is mitigate the bleeding, so you ask the support to roam so they can ward and gank so they can try to make things happen around the map and try to snowball a solo lane or jungler so they are being useful to the team and getting income from assets or kills. Meanwhile the smolder would weakside. Freezing the wave as best as he can made easier because there is no way for you to accidently clip the minions while you poke to stack spell thieves or use the minion take proc too early and break the freeze and play safe. If they pressure the tower back off until you are just in exp range soak and go back to freezing when the enemy bot get bored if they dive him and he dies it's whatever he isnt fighting then so he isn't worth money eventually only being worth about 70 gold and there is only 1 not 2 for them to collect and if he does get a kill cool shut down. He gets solo exp can try to stack the best he can for late game which is his entire job and hope you can get the other lanes able to carry him even if he goes 2/14 with 300 cs. It is the mark of a good adc that he was willing to say hey I'm not going to be the carry please go help someone who will instead of wasting your time on me while i just try to be insurance incase the game runs long, in that sometimes flamey adc way.
@EzOddz6 ай бұрын
Honestly thats the sad part at times as a support. You can have teammates who dont know what they are doing. Its personally why I play characters like pantheon, you have engage whilst having the ability to kill other champions instead of fully supporting.
@Iznikroc6 ай бұрын
In china the support is called the Auxillary and it's a better term for the role. You round out your team, through mitigation, engage, or more damage. thats why i think one tricking is bad for a support because you should be looking at your team comp and adapting your pick to it.
@ДенисИванов-э9у4 ай бұрын
Yea that's why I always swap down and never accept swapping up, I mean wtf do you want me to first pick as a sup
@thatoneguywhosaysbyethenwa17204 ай бұрын
@@ДенисИванов-э9у if nobody else swaps with the first pick toplaner, just swap.
@ДенисИванов-э9у4 ай бұрын
@@thatoneguywhosaysbyethenwa1720 I might swap if they ask in chat
@elgatochurroАй бұрын
that is a better term tbh but people will still claim it to be support.
@g-rated-g6 ай бұрын
That's why thresh, bard, pyke and Morgana are my favorite supports. You can make big plays and still peel for your team in some ways
@JustAViewer446 ай бұрын
Ikr? You are there to help them yet you can do things by yourself. That feels great. Not like those damn peel supports.
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
Big reason I play karma and senna a lot. I can help my team but also do damage
@ДенисИванов-э9у4 ай бұрын
I play xerath zyra and zilean so I can make EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
@Darkloid216 ай бұрын
As a support main I can honestly say it’s way more stressful than anything else I’ve played. I have to keep idiots alive while making sure the enemy can’t just surprise gank us and have to monitor vision and all that junk.
@poom3236 ай бұрын
Tbh, it's still less stressful than playing adc with random support.
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
@@poom323 try playing support with a clueless adc. Or even worse, clueless teammates that blame their mistakes on you
@Darkloid216 ай бұрын
@@abnormalnox My average support game. The team is honestly the greatest threat to themselves
@sethb30906 ай бұрын
The thing is you're a force multiplier. It doesn't matter how big that multiplier is if you're multiplying a zero, and you can offer success but never take it yourself.
@Darkloid216 ай бұрын
@@sethb3090 Yeah that's a painful lesson I know. To coin an OLD phrase "you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear".
@Nuclearburrit06 ай бұрын
Its not my main, but i often play ADC, and the difference between a good support and a bad one is night and day. I dont carry my support. They carry me.
@MattHatter3606 ай бұрын
The way I see it is that we carry the adc to the late game so they can carry the game later
@dizzyheads6 ай бұрын
Nah we support them Just like how some plants need support in order to grow into a tree Stabilize their growth and ensure they become stronger and massive later on
@EzOddz6 ай бұрын
Better coinflip the support who doesn't hide behind caster minions gl
@Langharig_Tuig6 ай бұрын
There's also some psychology going in answering the question. Support players are more likely to compliment, ADCs are more likely to complain. So by the psychology of their average players ADCs will receive less flame, because they are usually the flamers, and supports get less praise because they are the praisers.
@Vinnie04126 ай бұрын
It's quite the opposite actually imo, because adc's have a reputation of being crybabies, even if their complaints might be 100% valid they will still get flamed by the team because of this. Meanwhile supports are seen as the good samaritans and won't catch much blame because they're "nice" even tho their gameplay might be horrible at times. Just my experience tho.
@Unresolvedissues1016 ай бұрын
@@Vinnie0412 Ah a paradox
@Langharig_Tuig6 ай бұрын
@@Vinnie0412 Found the ADC haha
@dankkappa43136 ай бұрын
@@Langharig_Tuig He’s 100% right
@aaronscott74676 ай бұрын
Ironically, I've noticed that supports tend to be the worst flamers. They're the one with time on their hands to type when they feel the need to, while the other roles all need to be actively fighting something at almost all points in time
@lifeiaskedfor6 ай бұрын
i remember there was a game where we were behind in laning phase. I wasn't able to get good ganks as jungler so i farmed, we come out of laning phase and our Leona singlehandedly carried our group in teamfights, the leo would ulti the team i would follow up and we just had win after win and eventually won the game. Course no one praised the leo except me. Supports really are a thankless job. When you see your support doing a great job please make sure you give credit where credit is do
@justjessiford6 ай бұрын
Originally coming from HotS as an Abathur main, I was surpised how thankless the support role was when I started League. Support has the most agency in the game second to jungle.
@fish-kt4iq6 ай бұрын
Yeah coming from dota 2, supports determine the early and midgame. The thankless role in dota right now is mid.
@winterspeed67966 ай бұрын
As someone that went 3/10/43 as Rell Supp., yeah it do be like that
@twilightflux62876 ай бұрын
even though it's the most thankless role, I find myself being the one to be less flamed compared to when the other roles do bad/feed. it's not highlighted as much when I do mistakes like not warding enough or not exerting enough pressure in lane conversely, I will always applaud the enemy support if they bested me in lane pressure and vision control. goes to show there are better players out there that think one step ahead with their support plays
@viltautasYT6 ай бұрын
I get this, I never felt bad when I lost to the better support (unless its yumi)
@elgatochurroАй бұрын
Idk, I find many people randomly deciding "hey my own support, you suck, im 1/6 and youre like 0/3" "0/3/14" "yeah but my gold earned is good" "ok yasuo... like thats hard for you to be decent in gold earnings as a solo laner??? with free double crit chance?"
@ErisFrance06 ай бұрын
not going to lie, as a support my best memory in a game was when my adc and the middle liner thanked me at the end of a game for covering their ass as a thresh. It doesnt happen often, but when it does, it feels really good to know you managed to help your team out to the best of your ability and that they acknowledge your efforts
@Nigolasy5 ай бұрын
My best memory is a bunch of question mark pings on the baron after I Renata ulted into the pit, got Baron and 2 kills and had my team clean up the rest. This is what fills my body with life.
@tyleryams66136 ай бұрын
My proof of being a good support player is when my friends who play adc with me tell me that their games are so much easier when I am with them or how when they play with random supports they miss having me in their lane. It’s the kind of role that you don’t notice what’s missing till it’s gone.
@ChincerDante6 ай бұрын
being honest im surprise that a support like renata took so long to show up, thats like many people that play support exclusively like myself feel, "you are alive because i saved you, now do the damage for me so i dont get my hands dirty" a large part of why people dont play support more is the entire image of selfless healbot
@Barxxew6 ай бұрын
Speaking of thankless, this editor is amazing and should be recognized for their unique work! I really like their style of editing and hope they work on more of your future videos!
@wigmanmania2596 ай бұрын
I kinda like thinking of Supports in Asimov's Laws terms: 1.- A Support must always protect their Carries 2.- A Support must always secure Objectives (unless there's Carries to protect) 3.- A Support must always protect themselves (unless there's Carries to protect or Objectives to secure)
@munchiemunchie52266 ай бұрын
Secure objectives?
@jansyrovatka40906 ай бұрын
@@munchiemunchie5226 If objective is well warded and someone like Ali, Thresh, Leona, Naut just zones the enemy jng so u get objective is really big value. And it helps to secure the objective.
@viltautasYT6 ай бұрын
i can ward around the objective and scare off 1 person, but when theres 5 enemies running at you, I'm gonna run. Especially since my team is freezing and farming against noone
@zippinga68games6 ай бұрын
@@jansyrovatka4090 yeah, whenever im naut and we're on an objective im walking around the obj warding and holding onto my q so the enemy jg can never even reach the obj
@fancypants21826 ай бұрын
3rd law is true
@nihil_est_divinum6 ай бұрын
Thanks for praising this role, I really think good supports deserve better recognision. It sometimes can feel like being a babystitter: where everyone whines and cries, while you're the one changing dipers and covering sharp edges with rubber and pillows.
@gabrielebasa42926 ай бұрын
As medic main from tf2 and a person who plays support in overwatch supports value is like simple politeness like saying thank you please or excuse me insignificant on the surface but can leave impact throughout a person life and if no one had it everyone would be assholea to eachother
@kaiseayaandruis15976 ай бұрын
it's wild how much even an automated "thank you" from the character, not even the player, can make supporting so much more bearable, a lot of thanklessness of support roles is in how little positive feedback you get on all the most important actions
@minhocho54876 ай бұрын
If you played overwatch you know for a fact that they are the single most impactful role so im not sure if it fits.
@kaiseayaandruis15976 ай бұрын
@@minhocho5487 there's a difference in how vital a role is vs how rewarding it feels to play supports in games often are very important but feel very unrewarding to play as
@minhocho54876 ай бұрын
@kaiseayaandruis1597 Not in overwatch, in overwatch tanks occupy that role and supports for the entirety of overwatch life cycle has been trh most impactful and appreciated role.
@kaiseayaandruis15976 ай бұрын
@@minhocho5487 yeah but that's one game of how many?
@ChucktheSpicyChicken6 ай бұрын
As a support main, getting complimented for the little things is more then enough for me. I won't forget my most recent game, enemy cait almost got the shut down on our kat but i body-blocked her ult and got a thumbs-up for it :)
@Sir_L.Wallace6 ай бұрын
Kinda sounds like an abusive relationship. You get bad behaviour all the time so the one time in 20 games you have a positive reaction you cling to it. I’m a support main so I feel the same way😅
@charlotte29046 ай бұрын
Right?! Even small things like emote makes me happy ! It shows your team care about what u're doing for them and make me want to play even better 🥰
@inplane99706 ай бұрын
Once I got all 4 of the honours after a long and drawn-out comeback and that really made me feel special.
@inplane99706 ай бұрын
@bltelysian I'm a huge stickler for performance. I usually end my games with less than 3 deaths, so my mistakes aren't super noticeable. That being said, I'd be lucky to even get 1 honour usually.
@rootyful6 ай бұрын
Played Zilean in ARAM the other day and was sad to find out there was no statistic to see how many resurrections I've done. Looking at highlight clips, I did several clutch saves on the Sett and Lucian that carried us.
@Tiagocf26 ай бұрын
wow you clicked your lowest hp team mates on a 5s window once in a while, truly bafling that league don't track that haha
@Fennin16 ай бұрын
Nah, if you ult someone as zilean while they are 'low' the enemy will just not kill em. If you are good you ult them within half a sec before they die or while the killing skillshot is already on the way. And @rootyful there is a tracker as one of the eternals, it says how often you saved someone with your ult that game.
@Tiagocf26 ай бұрын
@@Fennin1 if the enemy choose to ignore your ally can just walk alway or dps
@salihnu6 ай бұрын
One way I describe the support role is that you are a multiplier. Sadly if you multiply a 0 you still have 0. So no matter your plays, if your team doesn't capitalize on your play, the value is 0. Another thing most don't understand is that you are the support of the team and not the babysitter of the ADC. Often the ADC is important, but sometimes helping out, peeling, and bringing ahead other members is more important. If you have a mid or jgl that roams well and ganks well, or gets invaded often, if you can try to help them out. If your top is popping off and not split-pushing, peel for them. The ADC can safely farm.
@marshxmalluw6 ай бұрын
i think this really depends on the support! i play with my friends who can barely work a keyboard sometimes but want to learn adc and it’s mostly a game about understanding wave clear and what you need to do to create space for your adc if they’re REALLY bad. one person going 0/5 is never going to be beneficial even if im being productive elsewhere
@pauljansen1466 ай бұрын
@@marshxmalluw if you cant get something equal or better elsewhere dont try it. Simple as that
@salihnu6 ай бұрын
@@marshxmalluw exactly. You can't produce results by multiplying a 0. Your friend should work on their fundamentals in bot games. Intermediate bots are good enough to distract and disrupt, and they can focus on last hit and wave management, recalls, and general movements. If you have other players in your team that can be a wincon besides your ADC, supporting them can lead to a win. Depending on the situation and your support you might have to change your build. You are basically playing a 4v5 or even a 4v6. If you can deal significant damage and have decent wave clear, like a Zyra, depending on the situation you could sell your support item and start to farm. Help fixing waves, setting up slow pushes and group with the remaining team
@pflaumi1236 ай бұрын
9:14 For enchanters I can say that it gets mostly only noticed if you do well with your counter tools back to back in situation it rly gets felt by your own team. With Soraka a well timed and positioned E can be very fight winning when u get engaged. Lulu can nullify one hard engaging champ completely with R and W for 2 seconds. And depending on how well the timing on R was, the frontloaded threat can even be nullified against a lot of engage champs. Jenna is THE get off me champ, I dont have to describe it more. Redemption is an item that has such a high impact with semi global range. Even casting it on a single target top or mid, it can allow your teammate to go more aggressive or deter further enemy engage. Same thing in teamfights. If you are good enough that you use Morgana E reactionary and not preemtively (which I cant, which is why dont play her) you have such high impact because the "uptime" is way higher that way. If the ranged carry can stand in front and "ignore" champs like Blitz, Nautilus, Pyke, Maokai in terms of their CC, it feels so broken honestly, but Im old and slow, so no Morgana for me. PS: A lot of frontloaded dmg gets off allthough the support did it right, because of buffering. For example, when Shyvanna ults she will always cast the E when ending the animation even if she shouldnt be able to. Ive seen it with Lulu W and Soraka E.
@poisonedoak65636 ай бұрын
Literally my last ranked game, top lane Darius kept taking fights he’d obviously lose and started flaming jungle I, playing support, told him to lay off Flamed me calling me useless Ten minutes later I was keeping the whole team alive in enemy base and we won No honors
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
Oh my GOD. I can't TELL you how many times I would ping retreat when it wasn't smart to fight. And they'd get themselves killed anyway (MULTIPLE TIMES mind you) and start blaming. Like why do I even bother..
@poisonedoak65636 ай бұрын
@@abnormalnox We do our duty and bear our burden in silence (usually)
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
@@poisonedoak6563 for the most part yea
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
@@poisonedoak6563 pretty much
@makothetako5 ай бұрын
In a way, I think of supports as the drummers or bass players in bands. They're thankless roles (often drummers are made fun of as "simple"), but they act as the glue and provide that base for others (vocalists, lead guitar) to shine.
@kristianvasnik16784 ай бұрын
When i played league of legends i discovered i loved to be a support, and almost any kind. I just hate being the "star" i like making others shine. I am already used to people ignore me but that's the main reason of why i play supports anyways. My problem arises when people act that support is the easiest role, that i am a carried, or that i am dumb. Only the people who did play support understand why is a pain, because you have the obligation to FIRST play the other roles, since your main goal is to support your buddies who will have other roles you need to understand their way of thinking, reasons to do this and abilities, and in the case of a moba you also need to understand the abilities of almost every champion on a base level. So many mental stuff that the supports require to do. Heck even when i played league of legends on a random match i got paired with someone who did not understand kalista's item and ultimate, i was sadly a Karma because he did not show he wanted to pick up kalista, however i kept my head cool and i taught him the basics and also remind him that the next time he should ask the support to pick up a tank support because of the ultimate. The kalista did actually listen to me and thanks to that because we both kept a cool head we did win. I do not play it anymore, however if someone does play league or any other game with support role, treat them kindly, trust me, a simple "thanks for the heals" really warms the heart of the support or whatever the support does in that moment. And also if the support tells you something you should listen atleast a bit then think about it, chances are they played your role before anyways and your character.
@somerandomguy52856 ай бұрын
As saying goes in TF2 "Behind every grate Heavy, there is an even greater Medic"
@cloudynguyen65276 ай бұрын
"Behind every pro Soldier, there is a tradwife Medic following his ass" xD
@kolboi70976 ай бұрын
Since I got filled into support when I first started League before branching to top lane, I have nothing but respect for support players and all the shit they have to deal with. 99% of the time, they're just chill and the only 1% of the time when they're not, they've usually been set off by their ADC getting on their case about "making the wrong play" (a large part of why I prefer solo laning in top now)
@sorataakihiko48756 ай бұрын
one of the things i despise... when it happens... is when someone evaluates my contribution to the team by looking at my 0/4 score! not ever looking up the 8 assists i have.. when my adc has 8 kills.... and when i do have 4/0/2 or smt on a lux or bard i being called out as stealing kills.... and having all that gold wasted on me! when i die to save someone, only to be told "no one asked you" when i was looking up that my adc would have given a shutdown for a lot of gold and trying to explain... it comes out as excuses.... i don't know... is it that embarrasing to admit the support saved you? or that it carried a game... or a fight even! i have RARELY been praised for carrying a fight EVEN somone got a penta because i literally CCed the 3 people trying to kill him.... i got 0 credit... all i could read was "honor Jhin"
@ShiroV26 ай бұрын
As a support main, my best friend is having all chat disabled. My teammates are all bots to me (and often behave as such, too!).
@ederofempires87936 ай бұрын
Another hurdle for supp to climb is that the skillset required to climb vastly differs in low-mid rank to high rank. going for roams in gold elo is often punished, even if you as the support hit the correct roam timings, simply because your jungle/mid/adc don't know how to play with your roam. You run mid because you see ur jungler closeby, the enemy jungler is ganking top, both midlaners are around half hp, but yours is slowpushing towards the enemy. your bot wave just bounced and when ur adc is back in lane, he'll be able to freeze. so you ping ur intention and run mid. then instead of 3man diving the enemy mid like u pinged, crashing a huge wave, your jungler runs top to countergank, eventhough he'll never get there in time. your midlaner pushes the wave and follows your jungler. if you now follow your adc will be in trouble because he cannot freeze that long. if you dont, your jungler/mid are likely to die, since they fight split while the enemy top/jungle are together. Best case it's a coinflip. But nevermind your adc is in gold and never tried to freeze to begin with and just pushed mindlessly into 2 people, got caught and spampings you. Honestly in silver/gold/plat your often better of just sitting in lane dominating the enemy and drawing aggro by permapushing. emerald you can start to expect people to actually know how to react to roams correctly.
@GubbiGap6 ай бұрын
As someone who used to main support god damn I almost cried at this. It's so true... everyone else gets credit while you're usually the only one that can see what good you did. I actually just played a game earlier where my Lucian was super strong and fed but I noticed how damn well the Thresh played in every fight and honored him instead - seems he was the reason they won lane so hard and knowing support players he was probably smiling at the PC knowing someone noticed how well he played.
@hyperN13376 ай бұрын
I think the biggest reason for its stigma has to largely do with the fact that it is the role that, in my opinion, tends to have the most people that have no idea how to play it even remotely at low elos, which is where the majority of league's playerbase resides. Games in bronze/silver unironically end up looking like 4v4's with how little the supports are doing anything even remotely support like, while the other roles are still more or less doing what their role requires (albeit poorly usually, but still), and this behavior tends to not change until at least plat, which is still above a good 80% of the playerbase. Which is to say, when the majority of the playerbase can't play support, of course they're gonna hate it or think its useless.
@purplecarrot97006 ай бұрын
ive been playing support forever and the only time i get hate is when playing enchanters
@Neko.Yumiko.5 ай бұрын
Same I think it’s bc of sexism tho 😐
@SmolBall546 ай бұрын
I think most people think support is easy because it’s much harder to see their impact
@torinduckworth-crowe80206 ай бұрын
That architect and builder analysis was so on point!
@autumn14656 ай бұрын
I remember I was swain support, and late game was dueling the top nasus. I won the duel bc I had like 20+ kills (adc was chill with it) and the nasus was underfed. Also, I had ult on the entire time and he just… stood in it. Ofc he yelled at me in all chat about how swain is broken and all that but like, he was fighting a player who was more leveled, had more items, and had an hp sucking ult up the entire time, but expected to win just because I was support so that means I’m always weak apparently. if I hadn’t been fed, obviously I would have lost, but apparently i won because swain is broken and not because I had been performing well that game
@JawaPenguin166 ай бұрын
Sometimes when my friends actually acknowledge my plays on support it makes me wonder. "Dang, how many big plays have they missed?"
@brendan32266 ай бұрын
idk how much TF2 you played back in the day but from what I remember medics were absolutely loved
@fish-kt4iq6 ай бұрын
He doesn't play other games and maybe a little bit of smash, got tf2 and dota 2 wrong. In dota the supports are the ones carrying the early game.
@nemo31436 ай бұрын
ill never be over the game where i carried my adc through the laning phase, saved them from so many almost-ints, protected them from dives, and gave up my deathless game to take all four shots of a jhin ult (as a Nami) so they could charge up their ult and finish off the enemy support. no thanks, no honors, didn't even return my post mortem fist bump. Such is life.
@TimZoet6 ай бұрын
In my days when I played a lot I always told my ADC at the start of the game: play like you have no fear, and if you die you can blame me. A lot of times ADC die because they think they are alone in a fight, they backed off to soon forgetting that I have heals/shields, thinking the support doesn't do much. So once I got their mentality right we would win so much more fights. Also, as a support main I get a minimum of 1 honor per game on average. So I don't think a support goes overlooked as much now as it did seasons ago. I actually picked up support in a time (around season 4) where nobody wanted to play support, and my god it was heaven
@mikhailismaelsanchezdejesu29425 ай бұрын
I've been playing league since I was 15. I'm 26 now about to finish college. So around 11 years. 1o of those have been playing support. Not even my friends, many of who I taught or introduced to the game seem to appreciate me to this day, until they are playing without me and start complaining to me how they cant win because there's no vision or they keep dying or the enemy always knows where they are, or they don't get as feed, or struggle setting up objectives, etc. I've complained for years that I lost the love I had for the role. At the start it was about filling in the role nobody wanted to play, after some time I grew to like being able to enable my allies to excel and succeed. It made me happy and I had fun making others shine and feeling part of that success and joy. Over time I've become very unsatisfied do to the lack of appreciation tho, its always "Nice penta x adc", "nice pick jg", "good baron call, how did you know where they where?" nobody ever really sees all I do every game and go forbid I play something like Pyke and steal their thunder. whenever I bring it up they always say something like "go back to adc then or play another role. But that's not really a solution, I want to be appreciated for playing the role I like, the one I'm good at, the one I'm really good at. But, it is what it is.
@syaratawe6 ай бұрын
recently bought janna and ive been having genuine fun playing support ever since. absolutely love it when i get a chill adc wether we're losing or not
@metrux3216 ай бұрын
You know, I've felt for years now that when you have a good support in the team, you don't notice it. You only notice when you have a bad sup, or the enemy sup is either better or doing something strange, AKA ganking top 2mins. Yeah, think of all the games where you didn't have to worry about your sup, and didn't feel anything amiss... That's him being good. And sometimes he has been good most of the game, but let the ball drop a single time, and now everyone's blaming him. Sups deserve more love, man.
@taxevasion73706 ай бұрын
I play as main support from the begining and i just wanted thank you for spreading some kindness for us supps mains, it's good to see someone mature enough to see what's like to be " that buddy supp"
@Slugmac4206 ай бұрын
as a sup main i shed a tear
@roco993Ай бұрын
The first thing you must realise as support is mute ur team and assume ur adc has - iq
@fish-kt4iq6 ай бұрын
00:29 that's not what dota players or tf2 players and maybe mmo players think of supports, maybe in the really low ranks but not in anything decent. Mmos the healers are the ones barking around people and you have to beg them sometimes, there's even a meme about, anime vs mmo healers. In dota, early game is determined by the supports, everyone appreciates warding, dust/truesight, smoke plays, smoke breaking, saves/defensive items, kill setups, tp rotates/responses, rune secures, camp stacking, creep pulls, etc. In tf2, medic is a beloved character/class. Shows that you didn't do enough research and based entirely on your league experience. Also for pro dota there's a reason why most captains are pos 5.
@Fehru5 ай бұрын
My adc: 12/0/0 Teammates: adc diff, gj bro Me on support, with 2/2/25: *completely ignired the fact that i have 100% kill pactipation in adc kills*
@adwadswadsda84582 ай бұрын
nahhhh everyone loves MEDIC(E)!!! 0:34
@thehades88186 ай бұрын
I use to be a support main but now i play basically any role except adc and that is mostly top due to other people not wanting to play it and all i can say top is not a nice place to be due to all the counterpicking
@pangoomb67816 ай бұрын
Most support players don't even care about spotlight( even tho getting team that appreciate what you do is like a dream) we only have 2 goals, 1st take care of our cry baby enough so they start carrying the game and 2nd make sure the opponents cry baby tilts as much as possible
@viktoriaschmied66275 ай бұрын
As someone who was at first discouraged by some back then friends to play support because they wanted me to learn the game first and not get stuck in that awkward trap many baby supports get into - in a way I am grateful. In the end I started maining it and did for years despite how thankless it is - simply because I love some champs in there. But these days whenever I meet a new baby in the role I always make sure to warn them ahead of the role and if they still go for it, try to teach them some tricks so they can climb faster into a position where at least the adc doesnt die the second you go to ward. To this day I'll never forget a rammus I once had in silver, when I played Yuumi. Every lane was losing and hard flaming, my man just accepted I decided to pull a last hope risk by jumping on him and started perma ganking. We managed to pull a full 180 and win that game, he got praised by everyone but he just redirected it onto me. Never felt as appreciated as that one game.
@gregorsmirnow63376 ай бұрын
Regarding the section on roaming, to be fair, you shouldn't typically roam when your lane is in a state that your ADC can get 2v1'd.
@Blu_Moon_Owl6 ай бұрын
I always show appreciation to my support when I play ADC and almost never say anything negative unless they are trolling
@Nightmare-fe9hr6 ай бұрын
When I first started the game, I was a braum main. That lasted all of a month before I realized that playing braum was like building a treehouse with your forehead as the hammer.
@conejitorosada23266 ай бұрын
As someone that had always played support, it's soo annoying on how much supports get under looked like you're only alive because I allow you to live. I remember I used to play Cooldown Tresh before the rune changes and it was so goddamn funny how I can hook an enemy, drag it out then hook them again. It doesn't help on how predictable they are when they move. In those moments I truly felt like I had fun as a support and the team didn't flame me.
@zbz55056 ай бұрын
"all I have to do for you to die is nothing" ~joshstrifehayes
@goldsurcher6 ай бұрын
I main support, and can confirm, this is how we are treated, albeit mainly when queuing with randoms, I have some teammates that I play with, and boy do they praise me for a good play. for example, there was this one game where I went lulu, and my mid laner went Gragas, I forgot the other champs on my team sadly, but it was a five stack, and yes, we were losing, and near the end, we were fighting around drake to try and stop them from getting soul because our jungler basically abandoned bot lane, and right before I died in the drake pit, I ulted Gragas because I knew it would help him get out alive, and it for sure did, he then continued to thank me for like 30 seconds in our vc 😅. bro was glad I saved his life lol, while sacrificing my own.
@Faceless_one_6 ай бұрын
This is why i say most support mains can play jungle cause their jobs are pretty similar, they just provide support in different ways. Ganks and buffs, heals, cc
@Megan-ii4gf6 ай бұрын
I was a support main for the longest time, then tried mid maining... I'm still a support at heart, if I still played. But I would get autofilled jungle during my stint as a mid laner, and I had a higher win rate in jungle because all it was, was playing roam support but kill the camps instead of babysit the team's biggest idiot.
@joke41196 ай бұрын
Been a support main for years now and this video is literally perfect. No notes
@DennysArrow6 ай бұрын
Vars just became enemy no.1 for ADC's after defending supports😂
@noahzhellos83446 ай бұрын
All the real ADC players know the supports are the real MVP of the team.
@kinwong54916 ай бұрын
Bot lane is like a sandwich, adc is the filling that everyone cares about, but without the bread to support it, it just can't hold itself together.
@panini156 ай бұрын
Yeah isn’t the support seen as having second or third highest influence on a win after jungle and mid in high level play
@alessiofontana83576 ай бұрын
I really cannot thank you enough for how well you treated this topic, it's really difficult and almost impossible to make other players understand this role (especially in-game). Well done!
@Tiki1006 ай бұрын
Fellow Zilean player , with me !
@aabeeek6 ай бұрын
Zilean using R on low health Tristana so she can rocket jump away and return to fight after R runs out (she died and now spams you with pings).
@agpaok07046 ай бұрын
I stopped playing league this year and completely deleted after vanguard (I would play once a week if friends asked, but vanguard stopped me). I was a top laner mainly since I started in 2015 and the last years that jg became so broken, I was jg main. But always knew how to play champs at any role. First of all my rank was emerald/diamond and every time I was playing adc or supp, felt that I was smurfing at 2vs2 laning phase. My supp mains were vel koz, thresh and bard, and adc just kalista. The problem in early years, was that no one wanted to play supp and everyone was autofill. The good thing is that no girls were playing back then and everyone was picking either thresh or blitz most of the times and engage all the time during lane phase. When I was playing adc as kalista, I ALWAYS informed that I play kalista in lobby. Yet again it happened supp to pick sona, soraka even yummi. Second, supp is very easy lane to play for boosting and it was very clear when I had boosted supp. I was playing kalista and supp was sitting behind me, while we should push early. When I was supp, big problem is that there is no voice chat in league. Since you manage the lane with someong else communication is key. I rarely left the lane, only to help jg in enemy jg and ward aggressive in their side. In lane it was way easier to win, because supp is the one that prepares the ground for adc just to auto attack. I never felt thankless as support. The problems that I discovered playing as adc: a lot of boosted enchanters, new champs making useless other champs (seraphine>sona), pathetic gameplay, no clue what their adc can do, which could partially solved with voice chat. I never thought all the things you said as something difficult to do. Supp champs were built to do this stuff. Only thing I was thinking especially with vel koz, was killing the enemy bot, push first, take dragons, kill the jg as well, win the game. Simple as that.
@MaxBurnHeart6 ай бұрын
Support is the most thankless? Well, kinda true. But at least with support, it's just one guy who hates you. On the other hand, everyone hates their jungler. As a jungler, you are expected to do all things. And if anything goes wrong, even if jungler was doing dragon while the top laner failed their tower dive and died, it's always the jungler's fault.
@antoshkagamechanle41566 ай бұрын
jungler expected to make tempo. if u r high tempo character and vs some fiddlesticks who outtempo u . then question is not why my jungler is bad its how. then look at team. u have roaming and performing mid and afk top. play for bot with mid. then go top. then go obj. there is a lot of things that u can do as jungler cuz its the only role that is not knitted to a line. if u full clear all day long as karthus or noc without even trying to gank when there r opportunities then sir its jg fault. even useless jg with smite on some important fight can do some impact. take damage. take 1 sec off aggro. anything. league is "complex" game.
@Unresolvedissues1016 ай бұрын
The high of being thanked as a support brought me into this role ( and also log horizon)
@davidedipaola24006 ай бұрын
Support is the only role that’s actually 100% team dependent and that’s why is the worst to play in soloq. You can wombo combo 5 people but if your MF doesn’t ult or she’s super late it’s useless. Who says adc is the worst understand but you forget that you can still farm, we don’t(and now you have better items too).
@theta16726 ай бұрын
Thank you for recognizing my main role
@icewolf90676 ай бұрын
I was a support main and when I played sums it was a crap shoot. Some adc's didn't know when they had the advantage in lane so I'd start stunning and cc the enemy and only after I die or almost die do they tell me they "want to play passive till mid game." On the over hand I this had to deal with adc's standing still in lane and running under the enemy tower and raging at me to heal them or shield them like I don't have cooldowns and most of them games with people like this convents the whole team to flame me all game. Stuff like this is the reason I stopped playing sums and just played aram till I quit.
@EepsayYukay6 ай бұрын
I personally find myself not enjoying playing DPSes as much as Supports in team games, weirdly. I usually shield/protect/buff teammates in shooter games, and one of my earliest memories playing League was playing as Zilean and figuring out when to slow enemies/speed up allies and Chronoburst for an optimal push. It's a thankless job, yes, but one that I nonetheless satisfying to play. Of course, it comes with a LOT of criticism, both from external and internal forces. But after a while, you kinda get used to it.
@lucarilla59016 ай бұрын
Yeah, same here, I always liked the supportive playstyles, but I always liked to be useful and be able to fend off enemies for myself. I loved playing sunflowers in the Garden Warfare games, you were the squishiest plant, but the only one that could heal itself and it's allies, and your DPS was really good if you could land headshots consistently. (maybe that's why I like Zyra? I never made that connection before)
@pedroaugustocosta25336 ай бұрын
My ADC thanked me for flashing to tank a Amumu's bandage so he could fully ult someone and to make body guard to eat EZ's hits three months ago and i still ride that happiness ecer since
@SquidBow6 ай бұрын
I just beat Malenia. It took to much time
@AkiraSpikes6 ай бұрын
I hope without mimic and with parry only?
@SquidBow6 ай бұрын
@@AkiraSpikes no parries sadly and I used reduvia
@AkiraSpikes6 ай бұрын
@@SquidBow sadge
@leka20956 ай бұрын
idk what that is, but grats dude!
@SquidBow6 ай бұрын
@@leka2095 She is the hardest boss in elden ring
@NoProtto6 ай бұрын
I think a good support has a huge impact on the game, however your team need to know how to play around supports as well. You can help your team with vision, secure objectives and win lanes but you can’t do that for them. That’s why I think roaming and anticarry supports are most versatile
@abnormalnox6 ай бұрын
Exactly. As a support main myself you often have to play around your team and adapt to circumstance. But many don't think to play around you...
@SebTheSamMarten6 ай бұрын
I will never pass up an opportunity to make a reference to Brutal Legend. It's one of my favorite games. "A good roadie knows his whole job is to make someone else look good, keep someone else safe, help someone else do what they were put here to do. A good roadie stays out of the spotlight. If he's doing his job right, you don't even know he's there." Same goes for supports.
@vernaute28036 ай бұрын
Sounds like god from futurama
@MainakRoyleomainakroy6 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Like someone else said, being a support main means, most of the times, being the only adult in the room. No one realizes how much they are getting augmented by an enchanter until they die, then suddenly it's 'support diff'.
@noxlunesia6 ай бұрын
"there is no central theme" excuse me, every traditional support (ie, not ones that were made for another role) have a form of peel. this is because supports as a central theme are made to make up for the primary weaknesses in carries by helping to slow or lock down major threats like assassins. this was like a no brainer???
@bmac46 ай бұрын
Almost every jungler, mid, and most tops has some form of peel, it's so ubiquitous as to be redundant.
@jmpwn80966 ай бұрын
One of my friends hates mage supports, and claims "they're not real supports" and then will subsequently blame a regular enchanter or tank support on their inability to play properly appreciate the vid, very interesting
@TiaguinhoMu6 ай бұрын
I agree, supp is the most thinkless role
@annaadotd64056 ай бұрын
The pyke that ganks your lane 3 times and kills you wants to disagree. But I know you were joking... right?... RIGHT?
@JuristPugilist6 ай бұрын
Several year support main here, and my biggest gripe with the role is that even when you are playing amazing you rarely get any credit and often still get blamed. I’ve had games where I’m 3/2/27 with 130 vision score and I still get blamed by the mid laner when they get caught in the enemy jungle. And they complain that I didn’t have that specific place warded for them. It’s also the only role where your team feels entitled to tell you what champion to play and flames you for not playing who they think you should have played. You’re basically the team’s slave.
@ivangusev1286 ай бұрын
Truuuue expecting brain dead janna press her E on you is worth praising! If support in a team can press buttons it's truly amazing. But if i being honest i hope they make game 4 on 4. :)
@Oznerock6 ай бұрын
4v4 league would probably cut out the midlaner honestly. You kinda need the toplaner for lategame teamfights, you need the jungler to fill the dead-space in the map with jungle camps, and you need the adc to do sustained damage. You need the support to fill the gaps in the team. Mid meanwhile is a role defined by it's flexibility - the point of mid is map control but jg does that better now, it's 1v1s but that hardly matters, it's mages but that's not a real role more of an item pack... etc. It's functions can just be eaten up by every other role. :)
@shojinakayama69976 ай бұрын
3:13 so true. I know how bad it feels as a jungler to not see anything on the map and have to second-guess my decisions, only to see my support's trinket sitting in 4 stacks 0/3 wards placed. So when I get autofilled support, I do my best to light the map up as much as I can.
@donewithprecision7856 ай бұрын
I’m a support main bro (Morgana, Yuumi, Seraphine)…yeah, I had to turn chat off lol. The choices people make kill me and what I see on the map is crazy. People not grouping for objectives, riskiest dives ever, becoming Superman the minute I attach Yuumi to them and we both wipe, you name it. Thank you so much for this video man.
@WhenYouGoMadd6 ай бұрын
Healing in combat in a PvP game with a Healing Fountain is counter-intuitive. It's better to just focus on other aspects in a fight. Especially when Champions are chunking oneanother for a quarter of their healthbar per attack. There is a reason why in competitive play none of the top level Supports are picking Healers/Enchanters. When you pick a Champion with a heal/shield just ask yourself, "would me stunning the person attacking my carry be more effective at reducing their damage?" "Would me building Tank with a Knight's Vow help my carry stay alive better?" "If I rush Warmogs and dive into the enemy team and disrupt them will that prevent the enemy from attacking my carry?" These are things Supports should be asking themselves.
@thecoolestcorgi49916 ай бұрын
I’m a support main in almost all games so I put babysitting experience on my resume