Supreme Commander Epic 32 - Setons #12

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[@Petricpwnz]

Every upvote on this comment will be used to fund the salt restraint campaign for Blackheart and Dogler.

[@StephenStine]

as much as i like Blackheart (like a fan, but not a fanboy), this comment is fucking hilarious! Maybe Blackheart should get a job at Morton Salt too! LOL

[@speed2cz]

+Petricpwnz that's the invitation into our nice comunity from these two players

[@Aulexer]

+speed2 this level of bm is fairly rare, especially in casts.

[@speed2cz]

true that, high level setons isnt casted everyday

[@jjhb4522]

+Petricpwnz that was too epic to be mad though. im suprised bh aint more humble considering he rarely loses, still great match.

[@grizzlyhamster]

"Dogler, displaying the social skills of a potato there..." LMAO!!

[@Blodir_]

you guys must realise that we all know each other and a little salt isn't taken seriously at all, it's very different to flaming complete strangers. Not that I encourage any form of flaming, but this needed to be said anyway -Blodir

[@FutureJPL]

+Pyry Mäkinen That's always been the way I've seen it watching these casts. I got a kick out of Blackhearts comments on this cast, and on pro games in the past as well. Glad to see you guys enjoying what you do.

[@cubertmiso]

hjuva!

[@TheBfutgreg]

This game had it all, never thought I'd see an actual non-AI game with Paragons, a Mavor and Salvations

[@briangarber8784]

It's actually pretty common with decent Seton's play.

[@TrampekTheShoe]

Blackheart, the Father of Kings of Salt.

[@venomsbane9815]

"And the Mavor is completed....the GIANT PENIS OF DOOM, unleashes it's MIGHTY ERECTION upon the world." -Gyle, 2015

[@damiangrinwis2294]

nice name

[@kugelkopf2987]

Was good! :D

[@SimonStannus]

I think the key to the Paragon is ramping up your build capacity as early as possible and making a backup paragon the first priority after completion. That said, Team 1 was smart to nuke the remains of the capital ships in the bottom pond (the sub-hunters were a largely irrelevant bonus at that point), which gave them the mass advantage on paragon construction. Blackheart also made mistakes in not moving his shipyard engies in to help with game-enders and not restarting his mass fabs when the paragon went down.

[@2Sor2Fig]

Wow, really enjoying this (seen about 15 of your game-casts but only subscribed now). I'm more of a turn based kinda guy, and before now I'd literally only played 2 games of the original Supreme Commander, but I love the casting, and upgraded my graphics chip just to play Forged Alliance, though it's still a close second to Alpha Centauri. Keep up the great work!

[@GyleCast]

Tatenda Tambo Alpha Centauri what a woderful and underated game!

[@tatsuuuuuu]

1:27:38 he did stop. reclaim ray is very different from build ray. it's much thicker and pure white. he's stopped working on the artillery and is even reclaiming it as well as the the third yolona oss construction but it's still not enough mass.

[@MuckoMan]

What a great game! Just watched it almost 5 years later.

[@deadwing7051]

Ahhh the map and player setup that demonstrates why this game is truly the king of Grand RTS.

[@ShiroAisu10]

Hey. I just want you to know that I love your videos and I think you do a great job casting these games. Thank you for the fun and please don't stop.

[@dlscorp]

Legends say Blackheart eventually hit puberty and grew up to be one of the world's top sodium inspectors

[@texteel]

damn, didnt know blackheart was this angry... although I guess losing that exp bomber did enraged him

[@alexandermeijer9344]

+texteel To be fair to him HZH shouldnt have moved thos asf away, I can understand why he would be annoyed.......

[@briangarber8784]

BH has always been a salt master and HZH is top keck on air. He had 1 job to do and he didn't do it.

[@codingsquirrel]

Clicking through commander upgrades manually is so two weeks ago. Get with the times Gyle. :P Can't wait to watch the whole thing through later tonight.

[@TheLolistan]

so much salt was in seton's air that day

[@the0dd0ne79]

it makes my day when i see new Gyle cast

[@every116]

One Yolona Oss can completely overwhelm any nuke defense they can throw up. Each missile can be build at a fraction of the time at a fraction of the cost of an antinuke and each missile takes two antinukes to destroy. Maybe by spamming nuke defense with the backing of a Paragon could Team 2 ever hope to defend against it. Maybe. That said they knew where the Yolona was and it's a piece of paper to any offensive weapon, Blackheart knew they would destroy it with the Salvations and Mavor after the Paragon exploded, that's probably why he quit.

[@Aulexer]

+every116 takes about 7-8 nuke defenses to deny a yolona, there were 11.

[@every116]

They started building them after they noticed the Yolona and most hadn't been loaded yet. Do you think he could have landed some before the other ones had loaded?

[@Aulexer]

+every116 no

[@every116]

Huh. Didn't realize they were that easy to counter.

[@Aulexer]

+every116 Not really that easy to counter, that's basically -120 mass per second and -12k energy per second not including the initial cost of 7.5k mass to build them. If you mass stall at all you will not have your nuke def loaded in time. Also let's not forget that the nuke defense can only defend a certain area, the nuke can hit everywhere else. So in reality if you have decent map control you'll probably need like 16 spread nuke defense on a 20x20 map.

[@68rastaboy]

Thanks Gyle! Intro not even finished, and already enjoying it!

[@tx-43c63]

the best setons i have ever seen! great cast gyle!

[@IAMBoker]

exciting till the very end. Always a pleasure seeing your casts Gyle

[@Bertiee]

This time with full sound! Yay

[@joewow1229]

Thanks gale was stressing I wasn't gonna get my weekly dose of SupcomFA before school!

[@matutolaYT]

Gyle, please request more thumbs up man:) and use the camera pan, abuse it to show this pretty game

[@purplehayabusa]

The biggest tryhards are the ones who call everyone else tryhards.

[@nickthomas7844]

The salinity from BH in this one is too damn high. Don't think i've seen him rage before

[@patrice373]

Great game ! espacially with team 2 crushing Blackheart, Yes ! Wonderful cast Gyle, I swear it's more entertaining than a Spielberg movie ... ok even a Ridley Scott's one (nowadays)

[@RyanHDR]

I have scarcely seen buttrage on the level Dogler and BH displayed here. If only SC Account were on the bottom team instead of HZH, you would have the ultimate team of shit-talkers FAF can offer. Although I suspect that amount of ego in one place would likely cause the universe to implode...or something. It's also good to see that Blackheart knows the two fundamental rules of Setons: 1. Make excuses as to why you aren't doing well. ("2v1", "haven't played in months", "tryhard, I'm so chill") 2. Blame your allies.

[@Blodir_]

+RyanHD1080 Dogler = SC

[@RyanHDR]

Ooooh...well that explains a lot. Bye bye universe. :(

[@Bertiee]

+RyanHD1080 What about Maverick?

[@RyanHDR]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that guy..

[@68rastaboy]

What about "Lame"...one of the worst player i encoutered into FAF community. A real piece of Shit.

[@acidvash]

I saw this video come up on teh weekend get removed, glad to see it's back.

[@B20C0]

Wow, that was anticlimactic. :-/ Damn Blackheart and his temper.

[@bobasaurus7]

Always excited to see a new Epic!

[@chrisnoneofyours8988]

Love watching the casts man.

[@BartmossTV]

Wow, Team 2 (southern team) really has some anger management issues in this one. Always makes me sad to see that.

[@OHMYGODVIDEOGAMES]

BLACKHEART CANT HANDLE THE BANTS

[@atom286]

I already seen this in Blackhearts replays. He has a few Setons 1500+ every night recently, all good, all good tactics.

[@ChrispyNut]

Woohoo, a Gyle cast for Setyons with Pros, which means Gyle can miss even more of 'all of the things' :) Grabbing tea, and then I can watch what I've been looking forward to since i saw it posted the other day, but the glitch can be found before I got a chance to watch :)

[@ThisNameIsBanned]

FINALLY WITH SOUND !

[@PetersaberHD]

Going back in time...

[@ax0lotl688]

Good looking sera background you've got there, Gyle

[@aSenatorial]

Never rly understood the Tryhard comment...What exactly is an acceptable level of Try? How much Try do you need to be a Tryhard? How little Try can you use and not be a Noob?

[@JohnHafner]

This game has aged like the finest scotch…. Cheers!

[@wenaolong]

"Benefiting massively as he hoovers in all that mass".

[@jacobtownsend3766]

Seton's Epic!!!!!

[@r3negade37]

Public service announcement: If you're going to be cybran and don't want to get torpedo sniped, build a mermaid or two to protect the com. Unless they've changed the buggers torpedo flares anyway...

[@Stormbounde]

Great video, like always! But I gotta question, why do a lot of people move their comm's everywhere, usually towards the enemies? The point of the game is to protect it.

[@GyleCast]

Because your commander, with its tank and damage, is also a formidable weapon, especially in the early game. A few upgrades later and you can beef up the commander make it do more damage or increase its build power dramatically allowing it to erect a base any where in a couple of minuets. If you don't use it and send it forward, and your opponent does, you lose. This is why players are forced to push forward whether they want to or not.

[@Stormbounde]

***** Oh didn't know you could upgrade them, Thank you!

[@coops3600]

Basically what Gyle said. It makes for a really interesting mechanic where it's the thing you have to protect but you have to send it to the front line anyway, because your enemy sure as hell will, and if you don't send yours your units will get slaughtered by the enemy com.

[@512TheWolf512]

Amazing how in a decade of work, Gyle changed literally nothing

[@Hunter_13839]

There will be stories told in team 2's camp for years about the massive building party that was the paragon and how they were.....OUT BUILT BY TEAM 1! They are officially Russia that lost the space race! This made me laugh so much loved the paragon race fantastic game!!!!

[@lalakingo7]

Loved the stream man, highlight of the game, was at 1:23:30, wow i laughed so hard man. thanks keep em coming.

[@Triaxx2]

Might have gone a bit better for Team 2 if Blackheart had sent that first bomber up and popped Petrick's Naval factories.

[@JLH111176]

a dirty amount of ASF's LOL

[@Quickshot0]

An interesting ending, Paragon showdown and assorted game ending weapon spam. At that point it really was down to the wire really. If the paragon had come up just a little earlier, it would have have become an exchange of superweapons with uncertain outcome. Would have depended on what got hit and what got through....

[@MrTripcore]

Russia didn't lose the space race entirely, they did put a man into orbit first.

[@skydude7682]

always good games its like watching pro sports for me

[@duskyracer8800]

aahhhh that iconic "BOOM BABY"

[@briangarber8784]

I you could cast Seton's games where one team didn't just throw it away. But that you can't cast what you aren't sent. Honestly I watched Petric's stream during this game and I was glad I didn't play it because it looked horrible, I came back 30 minutes later and was shocked that the game wasn't over.

[@Blodir_]

+Brian Garber Implying we'd play with you briang. Hiro is better and very much nicer than you :)

[@briangarber8784]

+Pyry Mäkinen No need. Wasn't implying anything. Not even going to bother with the second part of your statement.

[@manoflead643]

there's not even any point in assisting the yolona, it has a MASSIVE amount of build power inside it to the point where engies do almost nothing to make it faster. something like 10k

[@briangarber8784]

Assisting it helps immensely. More assist means more anti nukes required to stop it.

[@manoflead643]

that I did not know

[@h31212]

I don't remember Blackheart bashing his teamates like that in any other cast... Was it really him?

[@beetheimmortal]

Probably just had a bad day, happens to everyone

[@TonyMpl]

Hey, great content! Why the Players dont use some sort of voice chat rather than typing? Would that be easier?

[@agenttex3612]

This game is fun if you have patience for this game but everything else it pretty good

[@jatzi1526]

I get a speeding ticket and get bummed out. Get home and find this and my whole days gets better. P.S. La Jiggy Jar Jar Doo, Dur Dur Dur Dee Dur

[@carllonsdale4815]

I like all of it

[@dantheman5034]

AWWWW YISSS, GYLE EPIC SETONS

[@Redfox442]

Amazing that this 1.5hr long video of the best game ever has got 10k views in just 1 month.

[@austinsmith9948]

I love and I haven't even seen it yet yaaaaa

[@jprsfragoso]

OMG.... the Paragon is real, FINNALY :D

[@spleen5527]

Blackheart would have lost that Bobmer anyway, the way he was using it. Sacrifice ASAFs to bring that down, no question.

[@thundersoul6795]

Those anti-magic hovercrafts that simply deny any Cybran torpedo fire, amirite? And yeah, as I'm not into FAF version of FA yet, what's that HQ kinda factory type, what's its benefits and how does one factory become HQ? It builds faster and more mass/power efficient or just faster? It have to produce most units of all players' factories or player actually choose one to be it?

[@beetheimmortal]

It just allowes you to upgrade other factories faster and cheaper. However, if you lose your HQ, all the other factories will only be able to build T1.

[@agenttex3612]

And not trying to make it go fast and rush

[@JohanLeEpic]

Finally up again!! :)

[@roscopeco2000]

if blackheart or any pros that know him can pass on this message "stop using disgusting language calling people cancer is not helping gyles quest for community awareness " You are a senior playing in this game and you should be setting an example!!

[@briangarber8784]

Gyle can disable chat if he cared.

[@Chreeeis]

Really its just shit talking in the heat of the moment. The only real cancer is people like you who get butthurt over words on the internet and try to suppress them lolol Follow these words if you really do need an example to live by and you'll be just fine

[@Lunethia]

HERE IT IS AGAIN! :D

[@greasehardbody4018]

What's setons exactly and what makes it bad? I'm assuming it's something with the map setons clutch, is the map poorly made?

[@WillHoT4Purple]

+A. Attasyr It's just a very popular map amongst newer players, so veterans of the game are sick and tired of it. It's kinda like DE_Dust, just played way too often. The map itself is fine, with a fun mix of everything, so just ignore the elitist fucktards like Blackheart and Dogler

[@greasehardbody4018]

Ah, okay

[@coops3600]

It's also a huge map with a crapton of mass and tends to attract the same sorts of play styles repeatedly (not to say that there aren't multiple strategies that can be used while playing on it). It also tends to host games that go on forever like this one and people don't like that.

[@reaperzwei845]

Wait wait wait a Setons game was played without Galactic Fear?

[@austinsmith9948]

more epics

[@duskyracer8800]

when they're getting half an exp bomber at 25 minuets in it just hurts my newbie pride

[@doodihealz7369]

gyle do you have a personal email? i wanted to thank you for the cast and write a huge thank you email but i cant find it D:

[@allmhuran]

I was indeed laughing out loud over that paragon race in the way that might yell and cheer over . Great game, well casted, even BH being a bit of a wanker (which is not something I recall as being his usual behaviour) couldn't spoil the fun.

[@MrBlaster3210]

ohh great game, love it:)

[@shadowblaster124]

I loled at 23:39

[@cleverpighiding]

people only get this much rage on setons

[@nuruddinshah684]

So Gyle what the new rules of Epicness ?

[@Bertiee]

+Nuruddin Shah That the recording of the cast is over 1 hour, not necessarily the game time

[@TheStevens83]

+Nuruddin Shah paragon race and spamming exp until total soumission..... should be a good start. If you add the penis of doom in the equation...... that should be enough

[@Vlamyncksken]

Blackhard lost a lot of my respect and I dare say the respect of others. He acted like total shit this game.

[@liamprice5546]

Blackheart?

[@Vlamyncksken]

Uncle Iroh Whoops! Yeah, that guy.

[@dbcstudio9097]

"Family show" RIGHT

[@shadowblaster124]

1:13:48 Hah, yeah, it is Blodir

[@hvymtal8566]

All the game enders were pulled out except the scathis which wasn't relevant in this one. incredible end game there i mean holy shit

[@hopyfullyapro]

Blackheart, more like Blackfart

[@MrTripcore]

Losing a player means less clicks per minute, or whatever it's called

[@TheBellerophon29]

omg......Omg....OMg....OMG!!! SETONS!!!!!!!!! %-)

[@dingus_doofus]

Dogler has a serious issue.

[@bjornbar9528]

can you create a map where every players starts in a circle - so that you have tweo front guys each team, two air player backin up, or tech II player and player with eco? WSL-Idea- might be a good one

[@duskyracer8800]

If they went for para earlier they would have gotten it

[@ciCCapROSTi]

Mighty penis of Doom, unleashing it's erection. Gyle you are a fucking poet!

[@sarahd2623]

I so object to you saying fecal brown to what I think is a nice orange! But mostly that's because I like to play orange in any rts game >.> Edit: The toxic behavior in this is really depressing..

[@duskyracer8800]

I farted and my dog thought i growled at him.

[@Niceh3ndy]

You really have to blend out the chat when blackhearth is around. The Community Awareness about Blackhearth is spreading :( Also, BH constantly complaining about tryhard, but Hoverbombing xD

[@liammontgomery7617]

why are all the pros so salty

[@briangarber8784]

Well HZH had 1 job to do that involved simple move commands. I would've just ctrl k'd my stuff and moved on.

[@cannonfodder9024]

Epic SUPCOM! What a great excuse for a cigar and some scotch.

[@brutalmoustache3627]

Setons players are not people Gyle. Until you source your "research" I will refuse to believe otherwise

[@BartmossTV]

+BrutalMoustache Not people. So.. they are Cybran.

[@randomdude9133]

how lame, they just leave cause they didnt like what happened

[@NoiceOnTheLine]

watching this at an irresponsible time :|