Surefire Tactician and Orbtronic 16650 Test

[@tom_olofsson]

Just got mine too. Thanks for the tip on the batteries.

[@CalebDowning]

Not a problem man 👍

[@jonnyyuma5327]

Caleb great video on interesting subject matter. Well done Sir

[@CalebDowning]

Well thanks 👍

[@kamaaina2012]

good tip on the battery,, just ordered direct from orbtronics. total for 2 was less then $20 will try it out , didnt know they existed.. have a lot of "torches" that take 2x RCR123 batteries.. Always hunting for something lasting longer ... Mahalo

[@CalebDowning]

Nice 👍I didn’t know they existed either until someone online mentioned them. So far they are running great and I have had no issues. Let me know how they work out for you. Glad this was a help.

[@robertdesrosiers2382]

Orbtronic is a Japanese based company. They make quality batteries.

[@CalebDowning]

Welcome to the comment section mr robot 🤖👆

[@UnobtaniumsQuickReviews]

They re-wrap Sanyo. Japanese cell.

[@ThatCrazyRCGuy67]

This is great to know, will it work for the G2X 600lm?

[@CalebDowning]

It should. I used these in my old G2 without any issues. It’s pretty safe to say that if the light uses two 123A batteries then the 16650 should work.

[@lesterbender6152]

it will work. i'm using keeppower 16650 batteries.

[@Bigfish1day]

What charger do you have, thanks for showing a shot of battery.

[@TheLordReverend]

Is it still workin well?

[@CalebDowning]

Still working great. I love the light and those rechargeable batteries 👍

[@TheLordReverend]

@@CalebDowning cool thanks I use mine all the time and buying those batteries is eating me alive! Thanks again bud

[@cingram8168]

The Yeager light

[@coffeeandlifting]

I doubt you're starting at full output with the 16650. The voltage is likely not high enough to even get the 6V light into regulated drive. The reason you have sustained output at all is because it's a quality battery with stable discharge voltage. A superior test would be to shine it on a solar cell from a yard light hooked up to a volt meter. Then take voltage readings at whatever rate you want and graph it.

[@CalebDowning]

The would be a more scientific test for sure.

[@zaheerkader7426]

Going to bore out my tactician out tomorrow with a flex hone 18mm size so that it can run 18650 batteries . Will let you know how it goes !

[@CalebDowning]

That would be pretty sweet 🤔 I actually am interested to hear how that turns out.

[@Goliad_-ox8hg]

Well?

[@prestonluscher776]

We want to know 😂

[@goukishin4367]

Now make the review on EDCL2-T model. I have the the model and I want to know, can I replace the 2x 123A surefire for the rechargeable 18650 battery?

[@CalebDowning]

More than likely you can use the 16650 rechargeable but I’ll put it in the things to review file.

[@meatstick6969]

Gouki Shin no. Won’t fit. 16650 or rechargeable rcr123’s only but the latter my have too much voltage possibly.

[@AKseries1]

Hey would that battery fit in your e2e?

[@CalebDowning]

It will fit, BUT... If you are using the filament style bulb it will probably burn it out pretty quick. If you have an LED head then you’ll be fine 👍

[@AKseries1]

Caleb Downing yeah I just got my e2e figured I’d cave into some vintage surefires. You were right about it, perfect light size for edc.

[@CalebDowning]

Super nostalgic for me, totally love it 👍👍

[@AKseries1]

Caleb Downing sweet channel by the way, literally just found you looking for E2E videos.

[@markmolter6937]

Great video. Do you know if a 16660 will fit in a SF EDC-2. For esc I like rechargeables.

[@CalebDowning]

Thanks man. I’m not sure about the 16660 🤔

[@markmolter6937]

Caleb Downing 16650. Sorry

[@CalebDowning]

Ooo, well if your light uses 2 lithium 123 batteries then it should take the 16650’s 👍

[@kuamhar1936]

Is that a flat top battery?

[@CalebDowning]

Not a flat top. It’s got a bump just like the non rechargeable ones.

[@kuamhar1936]

@@CalebDowning can I use that in a parallel connection too?

[@CalebDowning]

Should be able to. I got their CR123A rechargeable batteries and their run well stacked up.

[@kuamhar1936]

@@CalebDowning thanks sir

[@meatstick6969]

Was there a lumen drop using the 16650? Great review btw.

[@CalebDowning]

I couldn’t really see one with the naked eye but there are some folks that have done more scientific studies and they say that there is a drop. Thanks man 👍

[@atye04]

I like the size and run times are good but if you go into a hurricane and there's a few batteries you can scavenge is it a good option. Better off with a surefire AA or something. I love it, its perfect but I think they're not practical unless you can source your own stockpile of batteries. Basically

[@alfredyu7213]

How's it going?? Surefire is a great light alittle on the pricey side but you get what you pay for!! Been super happy with olight!! Thanxs for the test!!!😄

[@CalebDowning]

I need to check out those olights. I keep hearing about them but have never picked one up.

[@fordsrule35]

@@CalebDowning Stick with Sure fire. Possibly get an Elzetta they kick Ass also.

[@nelsonr1467]

hey I read on Orbtronic that you're not suppose to completely discharge the 16650. Wouldn't this test damage that battery?

[@CalebDowning]

It might, but it’s all in the name of science

[@atye04]

1665o. A bit tepid to to the 18650? I'd just run 18650 unless you have one of those odd 3 cell lights like elzetta Charlie. Then you gotta tabbel in the x2 16 series. But just get a 2 cell cr123 then bore it out a bit, Ill have video uploads of that eventually but then you can run either or. X2 cr123 or single 18650.

[@robertweir5755]

18650 won't fit, 16650 is the same except for the smaller diameter.

[@britteasterly1]

Hey, what ever happen with that little Chinese weapon light that you were testing out?

[@CalebDowning]

Good question 😉 It’s still going strong. I haven’t completed everything I have planned for it yet. There will be a video on it once I’m satisfied with my conclusion.

[@cajunsebastian912]

I luv my New Surefire Fury duel fuel tactical flashlight, 1,500lumens on a single 18650 3,400mah battery. an built like a Tank. 🇺🇸💪

[@navarrolewis8]

Why doesn’t Surefire want anyone to use rechargeables? I mean if that’s working why not? There saying no warranty for using other batteries not recommended for there lights? Anyone help clear this idea?

[@CalebDowning]

I believe both SureFire and Streamlight offer rechargeable batteries now so I’m not sure why they wouldn’t recommend using them. Now, I do know there are differences in output in both lumens and battery “volts, amps, whatever” that can cause bulbs to burn up... so I can understand how that would effect warranty.

[@navarrolewis8]

Ya i just wonder if you could use another brand?

[@CalebDowning]

So far these ones are working out well.

[@navarrolewis8]

Caleb Downing I have the Surefire eb1 300 lumens, light is amazing. Could I you a single cr123 rechargeable besides the one Surefire sells, like the one you have but single. Are there downsides? Thanks a bunch answering

[@chriscord6524]

SureFire never developed any batteries. They went with what was out there. There are far better cells than those they slap that sticker on. Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Molicel, Lg, Sanyo. These are the only companies on the planet earth that make quality cells. Fact. Everything else is someone putting a wrap ontop of a good one or trash. Including this Orbtronic, it’s an Lg cell with added protection on the top then wrapped. If a flattop won’t fit you can add a magnet or what i do is solder a blob ontop

[@wellcoderl9590]

Hi

[@CalebDowning]

👋

[@lifebythehorns]

Ten bucks for two cr123's?!? Good God man have you never heard of Amazon?

[@Marco-yv1fo]

Did you used Nitecore battery 🔋?

[@CalebDowning]

No, I don’t think I’ve used those before.

[@lornaz1975]

I was able to squeeze a 17670 into mine. Also, running a single lithium ion battery you are under volting the light. In doing so you are likely only getting 70% of the light output. People have said that the tactician will get 500 lumens on a lith ion battery.

[@freneticfanatic]

I saw several comments asking if lights that exclusively take Cr123a batteries would also fit 18650 batteries. Nope, 18650 won't fit. 18650's are 18mm in diameter. That's where the 18 comes from. 18mm in diameter and 650mm long = 18650. Since Cr123a batteries are 16mm wide you'd have to go with the 16650. Also, bear in mind that quality rechargeable batteries are mostly made in Japan, s Korea, Singapore. Almost 100% of the ones made in China are worthless and may destroy your light. Panasonic, Sanyo, Nitecore, Keeppower, Sony are all good brands. One last bit- a rechargeable will not be as bright and very well might not work in your light since it won't be pushing as much voltage. Cheers.

[@Jaezxc69]

My Elzetta Bravo reaches 4hrs+ using a Sanyo 16650.

[@MrMtaylor7210]

definitely a diminished light output running the 16650

[@navarrolewis8]

Why doesn’t Surefire want anyone to use rechargeables? I mean if that’s working why not? There saying no warranty for using other batteries not recommended for there lights? Anyone help clear this idea?

[@MrPowderblast]

The reasoning is monetary gain. They make their own cr123a battery so obviously want to sell more of them. They sell non rechargeable cr123a batteries (for extremely high output flashlights) then say if you don't use our batteries your warranty is no mas. A quality rechargeable is an excellent alternative if you use your light gets heavy use