Surprisingly, Black Holes and Not Stars Are Used In Modern Navigation

[@LEDewey_MD]

Cool! Had no idea that our GPS had advanced to the point of using distant quasars as reference points!

[@dustinswatsons9150]

Black holes are stars jackasses

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@@dustinswatsons9150 no they aren't lol

[@mikeuk666]

@@dustinswatsons9150 you failed

[@sergeigarbar1948]

I heard in 90s that americans afraid during ww3 we will jam GPS. Which during ww3 for sure will, as well as other sattelites. So reference to quasars was selected as "impossible" jam. Limit - reference is orientation in universe only, not distance. Anyway LORAN will be remembered and may be financed.

[@mikeuk666]

@@sergeigarbar1948 military already have more accuracy over the public

[@ricardodelzealandia6290]

A few months ago, I realised that the CMB can be used for navigation throughout the Milky Way because it has an orientation that doesn't change. No matter where you are in the galaxy, you can use the CMB signature to work out which way is up and which way is back home. ... and as I continue to watch the video, Anton mentions exactly this same thing :-)

[@richardkammerer2814]

And all I ask is a tall spaceship and a quasar to steer her by. Some day, some day.

[@muninrob]

@@richardkammerer2814 Second star from the right straight on till morning.

[@gavasiarobinssson5108]

Where in the Milky Way did you go?

[@stardolphin2]

Mmm...if you position yourself such that the CMB has the least possible doppler shift in any direction, it's as closest thing to a natural 'standard of rest' that the Universe can give you, that much seems true. And if you haven't been out of touch for so long, that the galaxy has not *rotated* to any significant degree, it might indeed be a useful navigation reference as long as you're still inside it. But let's say that you (somehow) had made a massive FTL jump to a random location hundreds of millions of lightyears away (and yes, you did say *in* the galaxy, I know I'm seriously reaching here), I don't think it could help you determine which direction to jump *back*...

[@muninrob]

@@stardolphin2 that's why I would want to see it tested on at least a LY scale (prefer to use a colony on alpha centauri to make the second CMB map, but would settle for any distance over 1 LY) before use in navigation. I just don't have enough of a cosmology background to know if it's features should shift or not. Is it like a star impossibly far away and we're watching what it did and it's the same for everyone, or is it more like the night sky where the viewer's location determines the features he sees? (and if the latter, could we use that the way sailors used to use an astrolabe & the movement of the stars to fix their position?) Thus the proposed test - I don't understand the theories well enough to more than guess, but I understand geometry & imaging well enough to come up with a test. (which when performed will probably not have either of my predicted outcomes, but instead reveal that I completely misunderstood the concept) Still an exciting idea, and I'm still enjoying trying to think about it.

[@AB-fg4mh]

Why is Anton so awesome tho? Lol. This science is the best.

[@topquark6919]

Yup, I agree. I like to see him present a space TV series.

[@yobroh0]

‘Cause his life is dope & he does dope shit.

[@AmritGrewal31]

No, as a matter of fact, I did not know but now I do. So, thank you.

[@kobrien6657]

Interesting stuff. I think you lost all the flat earhers at "hello, wonderful person" though.😆😆

[@wayneharrison]

Wow!! Quasars are the lighthouses of the universe!!🤩

[@JobBouwman]

I don't think so. In your anology, they are used to calibrate the position of the lighthouses.

[@wayneharrison]

@@JobBouwman Lighthouses are used as warning beacons...yes, you are correct. But if man/womankind does finally take the next big leap forward to becoming "interstellar travellers," like the seafarers of old. Then, these quasars with their unique natural or "possible artificial" technosignatures will not only become navigational beacons, but also serve as warning beacons, (hence my lighthouse analogy) for dangerous gravitational black holes. Sorry for my lack of detail in my original comment.🖖

[@krumuvecis]

@@wayneharrison womankind? what?

[@wayneharrison]

@@krumuvecis 👨‍🚀+👩‍🚀=🚀🌌👍👍

[@avery1647]

Pulsars are better at it's job, their precise and diverse pulsing makes them perfect as beacons

[@jamespurcer3730]

Bless you, Anton, for keeping a sharp eye for important developments in astronomy. This is why we love you. This means that you are greatly appreciated by us all. May you see greater rewards for your interest in astronomy.

[@sagagis]

did you know that we are watching wonderful Anton to learn about the usage of quasars?

[@l0rd_of_hollows681]

sausage quasars is what I read...I'm hungry

[@Laura-S196]

Excellent video! Thanks Anton.

[@sarasmr4278]

I got my shirt today! It's awesome! 💜

[@nickkazarian3334]

Anton, thanks for all the quality content you put out!

[@jarvisa12345]

Being pedantic, the ground stations do not transmit the satellite positions. They transmit orbit parameters, usually every two hours, which can be used to calculate the satellites position at a given time.

[@davidboyle1902]

Another in a long list of excellent and informative presentations. Well done, Anton.

[@vvdv99]

This science video is absolutely amazing in its explanatory value and clarity! A truly wonderful piece of science education. Thank you very much, Anton!

[@CaligoNight]

Love your videos Anton

[@MrSCOTTtheSCOT]

And yet I still loose my TV remote in my livingroom, my car keys in the kitchen, and where my mobile phone gets to, I swear there are aliens just having a laugh and using me as a test case study with where it gets to.

[@MichelleIbarraMHAEdD]

Same 😂😢

[@DerangedMerger]

This is fascinating! Quasars are even more awesome than I thought

[@paulcontreras3465]

Damn, we really take for granted how advanced and complicated small devices like GPSs work and how important space research is

[@Ereinion25]

That's so cool. I had no idea that there were quasar maps that I actually indirectly use so much. Really informative video once again Anton. Thanks!

[@mst4309]

We use quasars for modern navigation. We use 0.5 fps cameras for bank security.

[@gubunki]

and it has like less than VGA resolution

[@lethalsub]

Imagine a bank robber bending over to show his ass to the camera for a full two seconds.

[@dhiahassen9414]

@@lethalsub and you won't be able to tell from the recording lol

[@lethalsub]

@@dhiahassen9414 Police: "Have you seen this butt?"

[@dhiahassen9414]

@@lethalsub People answer : "Oh let me check my browsing history"

[@Ron4885]

Oh my. For Mr. Einstein that's a good hair day 5:35 :-) This is very interesting. I have wondered how all that worked but had no idea it was this involved. I understand why now. We need those quasars.

[@maxnullifidian]

How many of us would know anything about this stuff without Anton's wonderful help?

[@PaulBrassington_flutter_expert]

Watch every day and this was the best so far, absolutely stunning, facts that all children should be taught

[@nikmontecristo3683]

You cannot remotely state ´black holes´ and this other phenomena as ´facts´! If anything, this is all just theory.

[@PaulBrassington_flutter_expert]

@@nikmontecristo3683 Sorry for not being clear, I meant the facts about GPS, the satellites and quasars and ground stations.

[@nikmontecristo3683]

@@PaulBrassington_flutter_expert Now I see. I should have thought, as this video was mostly about this stuff :) Although I have my questions about quasars, that have not be fully explained by science so far. Sorry if my response came across rude or anything.

[@ar-visions]

Extremely thorough [and wonderful] explanation.

[@JesusMartinez-mk6fc]

Very informative and awesome video as usual Anton. I noticed you came back home to Montreal for the airplane GPS triangulation video sequence. Greetings from your hometown!

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic video, Anton!!! 😃 Really interesting indeed!

[@makaihana975]

So that's how Google has been stalking me! This has been very informative, thank you!

[@phithinker02]

This was such an incredible video! Will you produce others covering the different uses of the quasar map?

[@phil5965]

Wonderful video from wonderful Anton, and good to know they actually use that word - - - geocentric...

[@jefftimmons3775]

Wow!.. thanks Anton... I did not know that. This is the next level IPS (Interstellar Positioning System).

[@JobeStroud]

Love you Anton. Keep up the good work. Tired of getting 8 year old videos of nothing. We are so interested on what happens out there... Trillions of AU away, yet we aren't interested in what happens miles away... There are way more than XXXXX sats for geo positional system. GPS. There are Civilian, Government and military. Back when when USA deployed in Iraq. I did things.. When it came to satellites. I made those 3 domes move and narrow their coverage. I also had useful old dishes that weren't attached. Those dishes weren't apart of our deployment. I found out they were sold to T-mobile and Verizon.

[@thestonethatthebuilderrefu5231]

When I was a kid they thought quasars were stars. Like just one big star.

[@hackerulroman]

That's what I thought before this video

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

So it was the 60's? Or the 30's?

[@ethelredhardrede1838]

There was an article in Analog making the wild assed guess that they were starship exhausts. Found the title anyway: It's Right Over Your Nose," Analog,vol. 81; no. 4, June 1968 I am pretty sure that is that is article, read once, 52 years ago. I remember the author and got most of the title right, under instead of over, so I am pretty sure on the contents of the article.

[@captainchaos3667]

Did they already call them "quasar"? 'Cause that means "quasi-stellar object", so that would seem to imply that they knew they were not stars.

[@tysparks598]

It's crazy how much we've learned since Hubble. I remember getting the Time/Life space books in the 80s, if you can find them (cheap on eBay) compare what we know now compared to what we knew then, it'll blow your mind.

[@floryda4281]

wow. mind totally blown. I was recently imaging the quasar in Virgo without knowing all this about how important they actually are

[@jamesaron1967]

Wonderful quasar supermassive black hole-based spatial and geo-positioning system

[@BrianH1313]

"Twinkle, twinkle, quasi-star Biggest Puzzle from afar How unlike the other ones Brighter than a Billion Suns Twinkle, Twinkle quasi-star How I wonder what you are" - George Gamow

[@wayneshirey6999]

Another good video. Thanks Anton.

[@MichelleIbarraMHAEdD]

Bless your wonderful heart, "been around quite some time " means a different thing to me, than to you, you whippersnapper. 😁 ty for your hard work, you're helping me thru this pandemic.

[@Billy6695]

I now know something that I did not know before.Interesting stuff.

[@WillArtie]

Wow! Didnt know that at all! Thanks Anton!

[@ProperLogicalDebate]

6:44 I understand that Jupiter also has a measurable effect on the tides.

[@LaibaStarXX]

Ah yes! One of my favorite objects.

[@semper8754]

Yes! I'm a wonderful person!

[@A_Liner]

Before it meant nothing, now it meant something Thanks Anton

[@Nyxtify]

Did you know this is the only guy we'd watch about this?

[@joeskater5782]

I literally tell my Science class about this lol

[@wtfjesus8251]

Anton is a genius at communicating! The Best Propagator of Science in the field of Astrophysics! 😎🤘

[@stxdude830]

He’s cool, but science is already cool asf

[@yvonnemiezis8278]

@@wtfjesus8251 Agree

[@CapnPicard]

This was mind blowing and so cool.

[@antwan1357]

So this means when someone warms up the FTL drive navigation has to have all the pulsars lined up correctly for the navigation computer. (In the future).

[@nikmontecristo3683]

Electrons & Protons possess opposite charge. So this is a dipole, which creates an electric field. This electric field prevents atoms to be very close to eath other. (Only in specific conditions like in Fusion etc. is this possible) Of course, the electric field depends on the atom (number of electrons etc.). That´s why other materials are harder, stronger etc. than others. So how can ´black holes´ exist, with this structure & features? How can matter be compressed like that, in a permanent state? (or in any state for that matter) Maybe specific conditions are required, for this to exist in a permanent state, but I don´t see it. I don´t know, black holes and the other stuff, in the ´standard model´ doens´t make sense to me.

[@mikeuk666]

Great video again

[@brozoeka1597]

keep up the work plz i love it i have learned a lot

[@cosmicjoker8547]

I’m gonna get one of your hoodies for my bday 👍🏽

[@richard--s]

We used quasars before - kind of ;-) The voyager probes had the position of earth relative to the positions of a few quasars carved into the sleve of the golden record that's on these two probes. But that's a different usage.

[@theklaus7436]

Yeah i did know. But i Can always learn more. Wonderful

[@domcasmurro2417]

Why some people dislike this kind of video? Can't see the reason.

[@zethicalyt2406]

We’re using quasars in GPS yet we have 1 FPS Cams in Banks like, “have you seen this man?” And it’s a 10 pixel face

[@radaro.9682]

One is paid for with public funds the other comes out of corporate profits. There is a lesson there, methinks.

[@WhiteErFox]

Wow, now that was an interesting thing. Mind blown. Thanks! :)

[@aresaurelian]

Quasars are for knowing the orientation, as in the direction the satellite points. But Quasars cannot be used directly for positioning in our solar system, as the parallax effect is too small in comparison. But knowing the orientation of the craft in space lets us know where to look for other known stars, satellites and ground stations, thus letting us communicate and measure distance to those, and from that data know our position.

[@markfergerson2145]

I'm hoping to live log enough to see the Cosmic Neutrino Background Radiation mapped/

[@sergeigarbar1948]

I hope to see humans on Mars. But i doubt.

[@SmackHah]

@@sergeigarbar1948 How old are you? We might see it in our lifetime. Temporary colonies aren't hard

[@dismo021]

I hope i live log enough too..

[@justicar5]

I'm hoping I make it to mind uploading :p

[@PaulMeranda]

@@justicar5 im worried thatll end up being painful somehow- like your head rejecting a body it's been connected to. can you imagine?

[@Jenab7]

The solar system's centripetal acceleration with respect to the galactic center is about 5.68 picometers per second squared.

[@starseed96]

We also have a 26 million year orbit around the Pleiades.

[@Jenab7]

@@starseed96 If the sun is orbiting the Pleiades at all, the orbital period would be 5.26 billion years. The distance is 444 light years. The Pleiades contain an estimated mass of 800 solar masses. P = 2π √ [ a³ / (GM) ] a = 444 ly = 4.20056433e+18 meters G = 6.6743e-11 m³ kg⁻¹ sec⁻² M = 800 M☉ = 1.5908e+33 kg P = 1.6601+17 sec = 5.2605e+9 years

[@hreedwork]

Fantastic, thanks! 🙏

[@mleii1169]

A couple of questions I've been curious about and perhaps you've already answered in other videos. Could we use a gravitational lens to see further in the universe than what we could normally see? Focusing it would be difficult but perhaps with some computations possible? It's not something I know a lot about but I seem to recall that there were ways to use radio telescopes in combination to create a form of a larger telescope. If that's the case could we say put a telescope on the moon, or possibly better in the locations that are before and after our orbit (sorry, cannot remember the names of them) to create a radio lens that's much larger to see further? Or possibly I'm misunderstanding the methods use with tying radio telescopes together. Another odd question, one thing that's been a curiosity to me is our actual speed through space, so combining our vectors of direction through our solar system and the vector of our solar system through our galaxy along with our galaxies vector through the universe how fast are we travelling with those combined at our fastest speeds vs our slowest speeds. Seems like the combination of those puts us at different velocities through the universe. Again, likely misunderstanding things with regards to "speed" within the universe vs "speed" here on earth.

[@mleii1169]

Ah, the orbital locations are called Lagrange points. So putting a satellite of some sort at the Lagrange points in our orbit.

[@alexmunro6074]

Highlight of my day Atom Ant

[@roberttolbert7002]

Hey Anton I was wondering where you find all the information for your KZbin channel

[@osmosisjones4912]

Can we do G force experiments to see cells divide in higher gravity .

[@sciencetroll6304]

Someone probably has, using a centrifuge.

[@quicktastic]

We had a Quasar TV when I was a kid. Didn't realize how important it was until now. We just threw it away.

[@rommelfcc]

3:17 Never say never 😉😁 They maybe able to detect a flow of space or space time, or just more current gravitational time lapses. Though probable very small in compression over the vast distances... Some people might take it the wrong way, and think it's the skybox of the matrix we exist in 😉😄

[@jamespurcer3730]

I don't know if the constellation of Orion is normal, but it seems to be a little distorted from classic models. What's the deal here?

[@Cicco2008]

Anton ... you are a star! and I've learned so much from you... but something confuses me... when we look at distant objects we are looking back in time - hence maps of the universe formed from these distant objects are giving us "time maps" not maps of the universe as it actually is now... how do they account for this to know what the universe currently looks like ? ... and how is that that if everything started at the same single point how is it that we are "ahead" of light emanating still from things that happened in the past so that we are still able to see it?!?! maybe these issues are obvious to a scientist (which I am not... )

[@jerrymont2595]

Fantastic, glad earthling scientist agree with me on something... Quasars offer even more ??????

[@zanb35]

What if a quasar is behind a Galaxy that is closer to Earth, doesn't it produce Gravitational Lensing? We are in a spiral galaxy so our light will make a duplicate, In a cross formation. Others produce an arc duplicate. Is this something totally different? I just want to learn, maybe I'm thinking of something else?

[@BojanPetrovicvft]

Hello Anton from us wonderfully persons :-)

[@goonercestlavie]

Très intéressant.

[@nathanokun8801]

We have gone from trying to develop ship pendulum clocks to measure longitude in the 19th Century to clocks for 3D measurement in inches that are anchored TO THE ENTIRE VISIBLE UNIVERSE in only a couple of hundred years. Things are changing rather rapidly, don't you think?

[@gerrie2477]

Hello Wonderful Anton :o)

[@artkaboom]

Amazing! I just lost my phone, turned out to be right in front of me. I need Quasars!

[@mleii1169]

What is that triangle on the screen? Sorry, I am a visual person and was distracted by it during the video. :(

[@mleii1169]

Love your videos, so hopefully that isn't taken as it being bad. Keep up the great work Anton. I really enjoy watching your videos.

[@guffaw1711]

This is just like the early seafarers from Antiquity used stars to navigate the ocean. Now space engineers are using quasars to navigate the solar system.

[@Big_Tex]

Quasar is a quality TV brand.

[@MichelleIbarraMHAEdD]

Ty! I couldn't remember if it was a tv station or a tv! I can still see their logo in my mind.....

[@steve-o6413]

Was a brand of TV...

[@steve-o6413]

Not to be confused with a Quesinar...

[@damienjeremyweir4543]

Hello wonderful population

[@offilawnoone9020]

Teachers in schools and even universities (colleges) are often just don't know of how what they teach is useful in real life.

[@Abadd0n]

GPS does not use triangulation, it uses trilateration.

[@xspotbox4400]

Are you saying we could navigate our solar system and universe using only those weird beacons? i don't think so, quasars might be good for fine tuning, but not essential. And it's kinds weird those lights exist in a first place.

[@ellisonhamilton3322]

Yo Anton!

[@christmandon]

Why do all stars move more than all galaxys?

[@steve-o6413]

Good question, if the Earth rotates nothing is a fixed point in the Sky except at its Axis point, so he is not saying that. But a fixed Telescope in Space along with a rotating radio telescope on Earth and a fixed Radio Wave in Space will give you the triangular navigational necessary for pinpointing a vector...

[@christmandon]

My question, and the heart of Anton's video, is about how scientists found more steady points in space from which to navigate. So why are galaxys more steady than the previously used stars or non-quasar sources.

[@dennisgarber]

I am pretty sure my phone navigates using quasars, QPS, instead of the GPS. At least that is what the package said.

[@MrLadiezman95]

That would work

[@whoeveriam0iam14222]

Would it be possible to not cut in the background video when you cut halfway in your sentence? The cuts are way more jarring because of the smooth footage jumping forward

[@stuartschaffner9744]

Really interesting, at least when wonderful Anton describes it. In a spirit of constructive criticism, "quasar" should rhyme with "star", not "stir". Maybe the ellians come from quasers. Just kidding....

[@osmosisjones4912]

If cells could divide faster in lighter gravity . could Europa have more advanced life then earth and could mars have developed more evidence life in the time it had . could life taller trees protect a planets atmosphere. How do they know that impact crater is 3billion years old. And can we do G force expirments to predict life on Exoplanets how cells divide in lower gravity

[@steve-o6413]

Cell division on the Moon would be the closest for experimentation, if I'm understanding you correctly or on a Spinning Satellite...

[@taufiqutomo]

Me, an Earthling: Wait, our solar system is accelerating?

[@obvioustruth]

size of the atom/s is not an unit of acceleration.

[@rangarajan3774]

So, those Quasars are the altimeters for GPS satellites.

[@lystfiskerlars]

I see rf :) I don't get why the physics nobel prize hasn't been awarded to the GPS system

[@thomasgeorgecastleberry6918]

I could get lost in a bathtub, now with all the stars jumping around if I was a spacemen I know I would get lost.

[@graemebrumfitt6668]

Damn that was cool. TFS, G :)

[@keefebaby]

The volume is really loud

[@Kenjiroo6608]

Surprisingly quasar are use in navigation and GPS you changed title

[@philochristos]

fascinating

[@Frogboyaidan]

Nice

[@Yezpahr]

Our solar system moves only 1 atom per second through the galaxy? o_0 That's underwhelming.

[@primoroy]

It's ACCELERATING at the rate of one MORE atom per second. It is actually moving at 230 kilometers per second (828,000 km/h).

[@spacecitizen6756]

LOOK OUT ANTON! THERE’S A QUASAR BEHIND YOU!

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

It's behind u, it follows u.