Surrey Police H.Q. send multiple officers to talk to someone filming and taking photos in public.

[@stewartkennedy870]

Standing outside filming a police headquarters is suspicious and his actions were attention seeking. Police were polite. This chap took up police resources that could have been deployed else where. Don’t complain when police don’t turn up because they are dealing with people like this that want to record police purely for the sake of it because of the current climate. A silly response claiming it was company policy.

[@johnthatcher4534]

Do shut up you snivelling toady.

[@davidduncan6889]

If you think that filming is “suspicious”, then you are part of the problem!

[@colonialclive]

It’s people with your attitude that get people’s rights eroded.

[@f1tv436]

I agree and these replies are people that are right old twats

[@ianhill4585]

It's a matter of common sense, two shooting scenarios, shooting one, there's a gun, OK send all resources, shooting two, it's a camera, OK, keep resources at scenario one. Not a difficult decision really.

[@peteroconnor2877]

Absolute proof, as if proof was needed that there is no effect on police of budget cuts if this amount of resources can be deployed for absolutely nothing !

[@lewislendon4910]

"This day and age" needs to be on a police bingo sheet!

[@Stuart_George]

There's so many. Here's my favourites.... 'Here's the deal' 'You're not doing anything wrong, but.....' 'This could have all been over in 5 mins....' 'If you're not doing anything wrong, why not tell us your name.' 'You have to see it from our perspective'. 'I just want to know who I'm talking to'. I know they are clichès, but I have genuinely heard them used loads of times.👍

[@BritishBoy1971]

That Policeman who turned up at time 22:16 is a proper arsehole, has a serious attitude problem. I met an Essex Traffic Policeman just like him and he gave me a hard time, AND I WAS THE WITNESS to an accident. That was 12 years ago and it has stayed with me forever. That is why I don't report everything to the Police now. If they want to play games with me and stir me up, that is what happens!

[@Stuart_George]

Funnily enough I mentioned something you say in this comment, in a reply to a question the other day. I was being asked if I agreed with some of the hateful comments about the police, that people post. I sad I don't agree with some of them, as I don't think hate is consructive. However, I did say that I understood why some people don't trust or respect the police. Once someone has a bad interaction with police, it's very hard for that respect and trust to be held anymore. Thank you for confirming that this is true. Thanks for your continued support Rottie.👍

[@encapsulation]

Company policy not to divulge personal info😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@garyevans8116]

Great idea I thought

[@LegoRocker1984]

Loved the motorbike cops advice before he left "better get that footage on KZbin quick and wipe the memory card". Anyone else pick up on that?

[@GunnyUKsarge]

Isn't it amazing that when you see someone getting attacked or a house being broken into and you call the Police there is never one available to attend? But when you have a camera of mass destruction they all want to come and see? I also noticed a motorcycle parked and rode on a public footpath, is that not an offence?

[@Stuart_George]

Yep. I think if ever I did need the police in a hurry, I would not report a crime I had been a victim of, or had seen. I would just say there is a person here taking pictures.!!

[@GunnyUKsarge]

@@Stuart_George I think you have proved it will work Stuart lol. Great upload as usual! Peace

[@IRVisionPrints]

Because it’s easy pickings, no real work needed, just turn up,make up some bullshit reason to arrest and then charge to get some money

[@DMC888]

Stuart George I wouldn’t count on that working. I think they’re more interested in looking after their own, secondly companies and corporations and the public? Not so much.

[@leesmith7883]

They do attend if you are a member of a protected group.

[@maverick4220]

"This day and age" that old line never gets old.

[@paulbelsey7111]

19:00 - I love the reason for not divulging your details - inspired. Clearly the Surrey police are vastly overstaffed. A complete shift of officers for a photographer!! As real crime has all been solved, there is no need for the police in Surrey.

[@tabzraza3301]

Worst thing is there has been so many burglaries in the area recently and you'd be lucky if they turn up on the same day once you've called them.

[@rubarbcrumble5359]

Baldy cop is finely balanced. He has a chip on both shoulders.

[@TheBILLANDERSON]

one good reason not to give name is , ::::::don't want to go on the your data list then to be put on the terror watch list ,,,,hence get on plane to USA to be then held in a custodian suite,, then returned immediately back to UK for doing a legal, lawful activity having my name put on the watch list

[@mrf4138]

OFFICER: “ Excuse me sir, I’ve noticed that you’re sitting on a bench in a public space, an activity that doesn’t normally attract the attention of the police, but as you have a camera in your hand, I am bound by law to question you, treat you like a criminal and press you for your personal information “ CITIZEN: “ I’d rather not give my details as I have not broken a law and I don’t want my information in the police national computer” OFFICER: “ Ah ha. I find that very suspicious. In this day and age with terrorist threat level rising and the price of petrol rising too, we all have to do our bit and treat photographers as naughty people and intimidate them into needlessly giving up their civil rights and “ details” so we can sleep safely in our hammocks of a night” CITIZEN: Oh, I see officer. Well there are 627,000 CCTV cameras in London alone and between 14 to16 million of them in the country as a hole, According to government statistics, by 2022 there will be 54 million smart phones in circulation all of which have video cameras and the police and TFL use ANPR cameras recording cars and people by the millions every day. And last month the police announced that they are rolling out facial recognition camera vans into our streets to video passing faces. Oh and there is an estimated 10 million. Dash cameras fitted to trucks and cars ( including police cars ) constantly recording all over the country. So it seems to me that the government regards photography as a perfectly legal activity. As legal as walking a dog or going shopping. That being the case, what is it about this ONE camera in MY hand that makes you feel the need to interrupt my peace and freedom to conduct what amounts to a police interview in the roadside? And if it’s because I pointed my camera briefly at a police station ( of whatever building that was filmed) can you tell me if police stations are exempt from photography and what other buildings in the country have special no photography status. Better still, can I have a list please?

[@reakingringpiece]

the biker was very nice :) credit where credit due, but the one refusing to give number was typical ego filled that gives all the rest of the police a bad name :( ewwww

[@Doctor.Kästien.Louis.Rosenberg]

reakingringpiece Defaced black Union Jack 🇬🇧, He’s ex army / forces , and thinks he’s “ God “ . 👿

[@borisblade564]

Nice to see the big man turn up and check if his three mates are ok dealing with a lone camera man,by his demeanor and complete arrogance you can see all he wants to do is start an argument and turn a relatively calm situation into a war created by his bigoted attitude...nice work stuart

[@Stuart_George]

Yep. It was quite a nice cordial intetaction, until Mr.Ego turned up.....

[@tincan4368]

cool , no aggression .calm ,well played

[@markossmith8786]

Excellent audit ✔👍🏻😎

[@trebor9711]

That old chestnut, Terrorism!!!!!🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidwebb4904]

You know you had your image run thru facial recognition. They identified you.

[@gmpromo]

When they ask for your name you can say PC256. Public Citizen 256.

[@RonSeymour1]

You did better than myself. Although I was 70 at the time and surrounded by 5 officers, I was handcuffed, searched, forcibly identified through my wallet and the camera content viewed. This was before I knew the law on this. It seems that they were scared of my camera and I might have been recording private cars in the station car park. At the time I was outside the police station and testing a new lens on an old Digital Hi8 tape camera.

[@Stuart_George]

It may depend when this happened. There was a period a few years ago where the police were abusing legislation, stopping photographers, and seizing equipment all the time. This led to a section of the legislation being repealed and guidamce being issued by ACPO (now NPCC) about public photography. They are a little bit more cautious now, as they accepted that the need for security has to be balanced with a persons right to engage in a lawful activity.

[@RonSeymour1]

Stuart George This was three years ago and new guidance was in place. If they do it again and handcuff me I shall make an assault charge. I was 70, 9st 10 at 6ft 1” so no threat to them physically and no chance of running with 5 armed officers next to me. Their own guidelines say it is an assault.

[@RonSeymour1]

@Tony Bramhall It is now too late. They put me in handcuffs immediately and took my camera as soon as I refused to ID Consequently I have no evidence. I will sue if it happens again though. They quoted terrorism powers despite me telling them that I was testing a new lens which was true. They were scared that I was filming their private cars in the car park and feared for their families. I said that if I got the numbers I couldn't get their addresses anyway and if I wanted to I could just walk past with a hidden camera or sit in a car across the road in the public car park. Until then I had no problem with police but now I have no respect for them at all.

[@christinesmith7592]

Nice one Stuart, love the "policy" bit.

[@JB_inks]

Next time they ask what you're filming, make a massive list and don't let them interrupt you. So: grass, trees, sky, cloud, lamp posts, wires, tyres, wheels, cars, glass, bricks, socks, shoes, shoe laces, morons, idiots, criminals, law abiding citizens, signs, bins, pedestrians....

[@dawnhunter6965]

Bike cop could of dealt with you while the other 4 fought crime !

[@Stuart_George]

You know what. I think the bike cop would agree with you.😂👍

[@Jayen4]

@Lego Batman Quite so .... Good point .

[@peteradams408]

Not enough police?? To many I think.

[@PoliceAbusingPowers]

17:12 I do hope that officer was not riding a motor vehicle on the public footpath. Especially without his blues and two's going. Pretty sure that's a moving vehicle violation. Certainly a fineable offence.

[@markosmith8037]

20:00 - PC Shoulder ?

[@andygee9320]

That fourth officer was a bell end with a head to match!

[@andersdante4193]

If Terrorists are local English speaking photographers and videographers then I'm sure the police have nothing to worry about. In this day and age ...Hilarious

[@flukedog]

First class job brother brilliantly done stay safe buddy☺👍

[@realspacemodels]

"We've had several phone calls from people concerned about someone taking photos". What a load. Go to the local constabulary and ask for the call record from that day and time to see it ANYONE called about you. My guess is no public citizen did. The dog unit guy probably is the only one.

[@thefoxhat6163]

Just ask for the Unique Identification code of the call.

[@marcoxlong2655]

If only they clicked their heels....?

[@markosmith8037]

20:03 - the most begrudging murmur of his name 🙄

[@Neil2022]

Guarantee if you were getting robbed they wouldn’t respond as fast.

[@ukfreedomaudits4948]

Good job Stu, concerns from public??? Liars

[@gilecos]

@11:25 "what you gonna do with the pictures...?". "Send them to Google Maps" would have been a fair reply 😁. Nice video Stuart, I loved 'your policy doesn't allow me to divulge private data' very original, brilliant. Keep going. LOL from France 🇫🇷 👍

[@Xpp.]

Nice video ! Well conducted and i like the ‘its your company policy not to give your details’ !! Spot on !

[@Mushroom67]

Have you taken the matter of the failure of him not identifying himself to you?

[@Stuart_George]

So far all I have done is a FOI request for his name and rank. Will do a complaint later. I could see no reason for his attitude. I think I was polite and respectful to the officers.

[@Mushroom67]

@@Stuart_George You was certainly cordial and polite, as were most of the officers. However, I think when officers refuse to identify, this leads me to believe that they think they are above the law. And it's these ones that need taking down a peg or two. I hope you make a formal complaint about him and have it stamped on his permanent record. Love your calm approach to audits and auditing. Looking forward to many more.

[@anuvabastidanakist2437]

trouble is Mushroom 67 the police do not need to ID themselves unless they arrest you they are told its ok to ID themselves but its not the law

[@Mushroom67]

@@anuvabastidanakist2437 Whilst you're correct in saying it's not a LAW. It is their policy and if you check the police websites, they must identify themselves when asked by a member of the public. This includes, collar numbers, warrant card, and the station they are attached to. Failure to identify themselves can lead to a reprimand or further punishment.

[@Stuart_George]

If they are not interacting with you (and he did not, I engaged him), they don't HAVE to ID. However, it is usual and professional for them to do so. (As per their Code of Ethics). It was his manner that was my issue. He was rude and disrespectful. If he didn't want to provide ID, he could have politely explained why.

[@albarn100]

He's not very good at covert Surveillance! maybe stalking is more his style! lol

[@SajidHussain-lj5mr]

This day and age could cover just about anything.

[@noodles74]

Yeah that bald cop was rude. Proper bad egg.

[@seanyexton3678]

Great work sir ! Keep up the good work. Stay safe ✌

[@AuditingBritain]

Company policy ha ha ha good one

[@louisjantzen7141]

Remember your Python. When someone says "Right. I'm off" your immediate reply must be "Just a bit, and it really doesn't show"

[@andrewwigley1252]

Fantastic audit, you're an inspiration to others.keep up the good work.ps the police were very good too.

[@steuk6510]

5:26 I love the police airwave Motorola solutions Tetra mast with dipole stacks at the top

[@finbar1485]

It's ok but a clothes hanger does just as good a job.😂

[@focuspocus3690]

Good encounter...It's like Snow White's line up except we have busybody, officious, intrigued, confused, and obnoxious. Hiiiiiiiii hooooooooooooo.

[@vincentvangough2008]

Loads of fking dopey

[@Stuart_George]

I hope that doesn't make me the Wicked Queen.... Maybe I'm the attractive Prince..... OK, so I'm Dopey.😂

[@philip9668]

Guildford police must be over staffed. Always one officer that has contempt for the public.

[@boostedlss731]

Ooò, company policy, I've heard of this before. Bow down to company policy! LOL

[@davidpedder9048]

I like how you said your policy dose not allow you give personal info

[@MrAnon-2024]

There’s always one!

[@daytona1212]

I'm so Surrey you had to go through that. :-) Good job!! Why do these servants think they are something special? People take thousands of picures every day, but when they want to photograph their servants, there suddenly is a security problem.

[@Stuart_George]

You must be Woking!!🤣

[@daytona1212]

@@Stuart_George Yeah, LOL.

[@VadoVoodoo]

To be honest, you could have been a transformer member of the public and turned into an anti- tank weapon at any time.

[@Stuart_George]

Optimus CRIME.....🤣

[@philtaylor4102]

What year was this..

[@jonsmith8582]

Where exactly is the "war on crime" ? not here for sure !

[@dannysmum9744]

i work as a professional mind-reader often specialising in guessing what line of work a person is in.. i once said "you are like the reluctant marketing consultant for Auschwitz and also have a lot in common with an interior designer.. the lady told me that she used to be an interior designer but now worked in high tech - had a strict contract with her employer that did not allow her to tell anyone any more than that.. i of course then immediately assumed that she was an arms dealer.. altho i was too polite to ask her if that was the case..

[@MikeEves]

1.2 trillion photos taken every year and you can buy cameras from Amazon (the police must hate that). Surrey police need to get a grip as the camera is not used by terrorists (but then turned their back on what they thought was a terrorist). Loved the way the copper said it was 'fine' to take photos from public. It doesn't matter if he thinks it 'isn't fine' as it's his personal opinion, which is completely and utterly irrelevant.

[@grahampugh7157]

The officer with the paw print loves Dogs not women

[@ckamarkothokeen]

Great audit brother

[@weaversarms]

You are getting better...Cant wait for the next one

[@andrewdaley3081]

No police officers were harmed in the making of this documentary. 🇬🇧👮🚔

[@Doctor.Kästien.Louis.Rosenberg]

andrew daley Unfortunately

[@stevennewman]

No police to tackle knife crime but aplenty there's plenty to tackle a man doing a lawful activity... SMH!!

[@paddy1225]

Where is this? I live near surrey and this is quite interesting. Or do you know where the new site in leatherhead is?

[@Stuart_George]

This is Mount Browne in Leatherhead. Surrey Poluce HQ is moving to the former Electrical Research Association (ERA) and Cobham Industries site on Cleeve Road. Opening in 2024 I believe.

[@Weedug]

Excellent Stuart

[@Mourn100]

The same bs line used but all leos, "in this day and age".

[@icgeorge]

definitely same one as the ambulance station

[@Stuart_George]

I've been trying to check. I can't see the collar number of the ambulance station officer. They have similar looks, but the voice seems different to me.

[@bobmirdiff2043]

The Policeman at the Ambulance Station had a beard and his Collar Number ended with 18. The Policeman at the HQ had no beard and his Collar Number was 2547 They are NOT the same person.

[@Stuart_George]

Thanks Bob. They had different personal chest patches on their uniform too. I think one had a long service stripe, the other a paw emblem.

[@bobmirdiff2043]

@@Stuart_George Yes, and the one at the Ambulance Station had a 'Thin Blue Line' badge.

[@Stuart_George]

@@bobmirdiff2043 So did thie one from this vid. I have just checked.

[@vincentvangough2008]

Love the policy trap, great work !

[@steuk6510]

Is there any clinical waste bins at all in the erea

[@Stuart_George]

?❔❓⁉️ Top prize for the strangest question I've been asked so far.👍

[@nonenone-vt8cg]

When the police say "we've had a call", ask them for the CAD number of that call so that you can get a copy of the recording of the call. Most of the time you will find that there was no call and that the police have lied.

[@stephengunner3047]

If only you get that amount of police/PCSO's to turn up when your house gets burgled or your car gets broken in to

[@djdangerorlando5297]

So true they alway day they ain't got the nuff police 🤣🤣🤣 SmH😡

[@jonwadman234]

Riding that motorcycle around and getting paid,sweet.

[@jamesmac7464]

Good job 👏🏻 mate..👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@misssparky5574]

When you go out and people approach you, when they start asking questions, say to them ' before I answer your questions, who are you and what are you doing in the area? Stay safe and keep the videos coming.

[@maverick4220]

Just as i thought you found a bunch of polite and respectful officers and then a fucking bad apple turned up.

[@cassidyspost]

Maybe he thinks he's James Bond 007?

[@shookoneldn300]

Two of the police officers were filming you.. On average your photograph is taken 300 times a day.. 80% of the public have a smart phone with a camera.. However, when you start filming, the police goes nuts and spew out the line about terrorism despite the fact that your 9 times more likely to be killed by the police than a terrorist in the UK.. it’s a fact! The police should get use to members of the public filming and spend valuable time chasing actual criminals instead of harassing photographers.

[@mortgagewizard40]

copper in black, was an acting sgt. because he only had 2 stripes ,rather than the normal 3

[@peterthompson6651]

As that motorcycle cop has he broken down? Because if he hasn't, then why as he parked on the footpath?, I thought it was illegal to park on the pavement, well it can't be if the motorcycle cop as parked their, and he knows the law doesn't he? I would have to remember that one.

[@rossgraham5917]

Probably the most suspicious thing I've ever seen.

[@Mp-zv3xc]

You know it's serious when the pcsos turn up lol 😂

[@doveronefoxtrot4417]

It's like putting cheese down and encouraging mice!

[@dickydoodle]

Vermin.

[@doveronefoxtrot4417]

@@dickydoodle Yes they are. They have lost the respect of the public because of the way they parade around like they own the bloody place.

[@colincox1716]

We need more police whistleblowers

[@stevenfraser2640]

When they ask your name next time say you can call me al. ( Paul Simon) lol 😆

[@electricsilver]

PLOD 2547. You are one of the prime reasons why law and moral abiding citizens such as myself have grown to show zero respect for our police force. You allow your actions and general contempt of the law-abiding public to fear and hate you. And whilst other blackshirts appear to act social and professional to the citizens of OUR country, in reality they are turning a blind eye to this disgraceful behaviour of their colleagues (our supposed guardians.)

[@badlarry172]

Young man What a patronising greeting

[@nathanielc6286]

Thanks for keeping these guys busy while me and my mates do crime 👍

[@maddrivers1018]

ITS BAD POLICE DOING THIS.

[@MrJonny2324]

That must be a new record, the "T" word mentioned within 6 seconds!

[@chickenmanedbrown8054]

That means snotty officer. He looks like and acts like a bloody mess

[@Brizlebird]

2547 is a perfect example of why they’re earning the hate. Despicable behaviour!

[@metal-potato]

Please send in a formal complaint about the scumbag who refused to identify. He's all that is wrong with policing in "this day and age".

[@junethackray3599]

No it's not him, this one was quite arrogant.

[@JazzFunkNobby1964]

Police driver training centre and the cop is riding his motorcycle along a pedestrian footpath. No wonder the place is closing down. Beam me up Scotty.

[@tonyblackbird5530]

Well done Stuart

[@misssparky5574]

When they take your photo ask them is it their own personal or police issued mobile phone. Tell them you can get the information from a freedom of information act. And if they say people have rang to report what your doing, you can go to the station and check their call log. Ask them next time are they questioning you under pace and are you being detain.

[@blackwaterhousecork5182]

Paranoia is endemic in Organisations which perceive themselves to be More Important than is reflected in their actual Security Measures employed. For example using an Visually Open Style Fence and getting fussed when someone Photographs through the Fence, rather than paying the extra and using a Visually Closed Style Fence and thus preventing Photography almost completely.

[@StJohnsChurchWoking]

How is it possible for Surrey Police to suddenly find so many officers when they are completely unable to get a single officer out when a theft is reported. Absolutely useless!

[@h4ppychap]

I am at a loss as to why you shook the blue costumed clown idiot after implying you were a threat. Its you show though and I appreciate the time you have taken to film the interaction and upload it. Thanks!

[@Jayen4]

I know .... I would NEVER shake their hand....they are the ENEMY ! It just reinforces their wrongful behaviour...

I was born in Surrey, Dorking. actually, and now I am ASHAMED OF THE SCUM THEY HAVE ALLOWED TO TAKE OVER....

[@stevethepirate123]

Think the old bill did a good job, mostly polite, realised you were just filming and buggered off again. Wouldn’t be doing job correctly if they didn’t ask 👍well done police 👍

[@ziggoziggo2662]

Sick of “this day in age” excuse. “This day in age” we still have rights