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[@locomike102]

This is a story as old as time in the knife world. Here is the bottom line--unless you are ordering a custom with odd materials/requests, do not pay a deposit, just place an order and any real manufacturer will charge you when it ships. If they can't sell the knife you ordered to the next guy if you back out, you don't want a knife from that company. If they want you to pay in advance, they are running a pyramid scheme and you may very well be left holding the bag.

[@billclancy4913]

I'm a hobby knifemaker, retired & working out of my garage. I make a few knives a month & sell them as I can. I've done some custom orders, but never take a dime up front as it would just add stress to a delightful hobby. I've had people ghost me after I put forth some nice material and time, and I just suck it up & sell it elsewhere. This whole story about Survive is incredulous, and if you research this, it goes on for years...long before Magnacut.

[@strwf]

I ordered two knives from survive knives in January of 2022 (he owns me over $415) I have emailed him multiple times, tried calling multiple times, leaving multiple messages. now you only get his voice mail and you can't leave a message. I even tried asking him about my order on his you tube channel and instead on answering my question about my order he blocked me. When I seen John from heavy set tactical put out his video with Survive knives called An In Depth Discussion (that's the name of his video) I commented about my order with survive knives and john from heavy set tactical also blocked me as well. I was nothing but respectful when commenting about my orders on both channels. So I unsubscribed from his channel because it showed me what kind of a person he is as well. survive has an F rating with the better business bureau. Looks like the next step is the Attorney general.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Do whatever you have to do to get your money back. I will say I would consider having some grace with Jon- not only did he have to deal with a bunch of psycho's personally invested in making him miserable but he also had to deal with the stress of Survive itself. I am surprised he blocked you especially if you were respectful but he has some bad circumstances. He will be posting a full transparency video about his experiences shortly, maybe that will clarify some things. Sadly the people with legit problems with Survive can easily get lumped in with a few psychopaths who follow all survive content. The psycho's do more to promote survive than any youtuber because they boost any content that involves survive to the moon on the algorithm, and they are so unhinged that it makes survive look like they are even the under dog or the good guy- they aren't. Obviously.

[@EarlyMist]

I'm out about $2500. 4.5 years waiting, promised a refund a year ago...four times again since....now ghosted. Pissed off big time!!! F$ck that guy.

[@BigDaddySwingingMeat]

@@EarlyMist I suggest buying an Architect Field Buddy. Architect Knives makes great knives that are virtually identical in appearance to the GSO line of Survive Knives. The only difference is that they are much cheaper and better made! They even use top tier supersteels like Magnacut and 3V.

[@squick1842]

Sounds like you are defending him. The actions listed are unforgivable. It would take him a couple of minutes to look it up. Instead he used time to block the subscriber

[@LukeEdwardes]

I’m in the same boat man, sucks a lot, and I bet we won’t get our money back

[@Jake-bt3fc]

I got banned from commenting on Guy's channel because I asked for proof about his Larrin Thomas conspiracy theories. Larrin should straight up sue this guy for defamation.

[@RadDadisRad]

Guy set his channel for all comments to be reviewed. He’s a schmuck.

[@nycbike73]

All I know is my order from December 2022 is gone, along with my money.

[@6firefightin]

I’m actually glad I never pulled the trigger on survive knives. I came so close a few times. Thankfully i didn’t. RIP survive knives.

[@whoflungdew]

I almost did the same thing. If you haven't seen the Architect knives Field buddy line of knives, check them out. I just got the AK 3 from them in Magnacut. Very impressed so far.

[@oldiron3735]

Great background and wrap up on Survive. At some point along the way, he changed his thought process to take money with no intent to produce. It doesn't matter if that was in 2016 or what year it was, he made a conscious decision to defraud.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

🎯

[@richardhenry1969]

It really amazes me people don't realize you can get a blank cutout then sand/grind /file it to a rough knife. Then send it to peters for heat treatment. That is what all these companies do. Making knives doesn't have to be very hard. Im not talking about making loads of knives im talking about making a great knife for a fraction of what they charge. I don't believe in forums anymore because they are full of people that just repeat what they want to believe. They won't believe anything even with evidence. Plus im conservative so im barred from most sites. Facts matter to me. Liberals can kiss my ass.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I am going to buy a harbor freight 1x30 and make a knife using that, a bandsaw, and a drill... maybe a drill press. To make it well I think will be a ton of work, and chances are ill fail and it won't be made well at all, but I do think it's a good idea to demonstrate it from the perspective of someone who knows what good actually is, but also someone who isn't all that talented with their hands. Of course folks will make fun of how crappy my first knife is but that's ok- later when I get my shop built and I get a 2x72 I'll make about 50-60 before I get one I like probably.

[@richardhenry1969]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I believe you'll do a good job. It's all details. The more you do the better it will look. If you get the 1x30 get the one with disc as well. It is a better deal. Plus the disc sander is very useful. Attention to detail is all it's about. You don't really need a band saw. A 5inch grinder with some cut off wheels will do everything you need. They make steel blades for circular saws now as well. The belt sander and the grinder is all I used my first time many years ago. I used truck springs they make great knives and very easy to heat treat with a magnet and a torch. I wish I knew how to make videos.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I'll mostly use a bandsaw because I have access to one but my grinder ssuucckksss haha I'm excited now.

[@leonidas7281]

Build a forge and blacksmith. Way more satisfying.

[@Robert-rm1qz]

Way to bring politics into something completely unpolitical, loser.

[@carscigarsscotchnwatches5158]

Like any industry, there will always be corruption. Sad, that a brand that started out with a great idea had to fail so miserably. I was one of the first to get GSO-10's. They were very well made knives. After seeing the BS for many years, I found that in principle, I did not want to keep the knives and sold them off.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Understandable

[@seppukusushi2848]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I preordered a Vendetta series from Guy. A PERSONAL VENDETTA!

[@jurgenkrebbekx4329]

Buy TRC, best workmanship money can buy, and your only have to pay in stock knives which delivery is guaranteed

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I'm carrying and using a new trc right now. It really is fantastic.

[@donrichter3523]

@jurgenkrebbekx4329, I agree on TRC workmanship, but I don’t like the fasteners, I greatly prefer screws on a serious knife. I tried to get a 3 prong tool from them for the older fasteners, but they basically blew me off. Because it’s a euro company, pretty much limited to euro steel, and right now, Crucible just has better offerings. I’d greatly prefer 3V or Cruwear in the Apocalypse and South Pole. Actually, their steel choices for their knives baffles me. They use tool steel on the military knives and stainless on the outdoors knives when it should be the other way. Soldiers got too much going on to worry about a rusty knife and the outdoors crowd want the added durability and ease of sharpening that tool steels provide, given how much they use their knives.

[@jurgenkrebbekx4329]

@@donrichter3523 thanks for responding, highly appreciated, it’s all personal preference I guess, I do like the tubes and actually never have seen one came loose,I did see screws got lost and actually had a GSO which I almost lost one,for what it’s worth about steel choice, I know you’re right on a certain point but I definitely prefer tool steels over stainless steels, especially Vanadis4E and also I’m a big fan of 80crv2, they’re just great and best of all easy to maintain, best military knives all were made out of tool steels back in the days I believe, that said I do own a TRC in Magnacut steel fora short time now and I’m highly impressed, stupidly sharp and easy to maintain, keeps an edge like nothing else, magical😄

[@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548]

People are just trash these days. Personally, I dont have time for all that bs, lol. It really is a shame, and it's only going to get worse all across the board.

[@JDStone20]

Yes, exactly. Good people need to start calling out the bad, and gatekeeping, to keep these harmful actors out.

[@Ufos4dahoes]

I am only 7 minutes in but I'll say off start, pre ordering knives to me as a non collector is crazy. Specially waiting 5 to 8 years and still expecting something. I don't even pre order movies or video games anymore because I've been screwed so hard. Pre Orders are automatic red flags. That being said, it's a good way to fund raise but it would be better to just say you're launching a fund raising campaign.

[@____MC____]

Add pre ordering cars to that list.

[@Ufos4dahoes]

​@@____MC____right or Car vending machines like Caravana haha. The world has gone mad

[@KeikoFXDesigns]

Well said.

[@KandKo]

Plenty of other companies offer pre-orders with timelines for shipping and ship by or before their stated fuffilment dates. Survive was always "90 days" then "could be a few months" No one put an order in with the intention of waiting 5 years

[@Ufos4dahoes]

​@@KandKoexactly, that is why I said expecting anything after 5 years is crazy. Implying that pre order money is long gone and you'll never receive your product. I was not saying people preorder 5yrs in advance. The only people dumb enough to do that wound up with Cyber trucks lol

[@choirboyzcutleryoutdoors]

I hate it for the other employees at Survive. If my understanding is correct when John was there it was him, Guy, and 4 other employees... I hate seeing anyone lose their job having experience with it several times in my 52 years... The other thing I hate is that folks are out their money.. good money was spent... I've never been on blade forums and I never will. As a matter of fact my channel gets accused of all kind of things but the truth of the matter is we simply look at the knife and the knife itself. I could give two s**** about knife world politics. We care about the knife so it always appears that I am pro Knife company and I'm sure I will have every swinging dick and schmuck that hate survive on the channel so if they do go out of business I'll do a video as well.. Great video man.. I think you articulated your points very very well!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Bladeforums can go down the drain with Survive, they are good for each other 🤣 Actually that would be sad due to all the valuable info from bladeforums heyday but 🤷‍♂️ Thanks bud.

[@choirboyzcutleryoutdoors]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors 😂 my brother there are enough "knife Karen's" out there the forums will live forever!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@choirboyzcutleryoutdoors 🤣🤣🤣

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Who got ripped off? I paid... $220? And got a great knife. I made some objective reviews along the way, had some good education, and earned some new utterly unhinged, basement dwelling trolls. This is an absolute win. 🤣

[@choirboyzcutleryoutdoors]

@@robcarey4189 lmao yeah ok bud how bout this I'll review what I want when I want... Your opinion doesn't matter to me my channel or the people that watch it... Also, I never EVER got anything from the company. Subscribers sent knives to me how is that promoting.. look into the gesture I'm sending you now🖕

[@tberkoff]

Customers who placed pre-orders should file a claim with the Office of Consumer Protection with the State of Pennsylvania. The online form was very easy.

[@kevinperrill1451]

Do you think it will help get a refund?

[@The_Patron_Saint]

@tberkoff doing this after I speak with my bank tomorrow if that doesn't go anywhere.

[@silentstryker1590]

So was the whole thing with the Magnacut just a smoke screen for their own mistakes?

[@tacticalcenter8658]

No

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

No I don't think so. I do think early magnacut had some difficulties. Was it blown out of proportion to everyone's detriment? Yes, I think so.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@AndrewSmith-jo5vi idk who Jordan is but other people have had issues with Magnacut- every maker and manufacture did in the beginning. It's mostly been resolved, if not completely.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@AndrewSmith-jo5vi you are correct in your last assertion for sure! Now, did Peter's do something wrong? I would say to a degree they did, I believe trying to torch anneal. Was the end problem with decard a real issue? Not really, remove the decarb. 🤷‍♂️ Did CPM and NSM make a mistake? Quite possibly- and they would refund the cost difference of the knives that were messed up as we saw. That is fine. Mistakes happen and brands willing to stand behind their work and fix mistakes are what it's all about. But even though these issues did exist to a degree ultimately the problem is Guy.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@AndrewSmith-jo5vi I feel like you agreed with me in a disagreeing tone... Yes, he didn't remove the .002 of material- that's what I said. Yes, they are awesome to have worked with him and to have offered a solution- that is also what I said. They offered a solution for the bad knives because they were bad. That was an oopsy. Why are you repeating what I said as if you were disagreeing? Are you simply wanting to disagree with me on principle?

[@rawdog5506]

My preprder from januaray of 2015 with Survive knives still has not made its way to me. Ive pretty much given up on ever getting it.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Man that ssuucckkss 😓

[@kelvinwilliams6999]

@@rawdog5506 2015??!! I have two from 2022. If we cancel, will they issue a refund?

[@EarlyMist]

Yep, just gave up on $2500 worth...waiting for 4.5 years. Promised a year ago for a refund....been ghosted by Guy since.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@EarlyMist what a nightmare 😓

[@1qas23]

I ordered mine when I was born...I am now 30 and still waiting.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@1qas23 🤣

[@The_Patron_Saint]

Pretty mad at myself for not only pre-ordering 1 knife, but 2 from Survive. Going to my bank this week to try to file a charge back. Being out over $500 with no contact is insane.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I hope you can get your money!!!

[@kelvinwilliams6999]

I'm still waiting on knives from September and November of 2022. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@MaximumFatness]

Me too dude. I preordered a knife on December 4th 2023. I may never get it

[@renexwing1546]

Me too☠️

[@chrisinf-11b10]

So glad I got my GSO-5.1 off of EBay, it took about a week to arrive from the time I ordered it.

[@msb2948]

Its getting past time for a possible consideration on a joint class action lawsuit against Survive, it appears too many have been dragged past your typical 90 day rebut process timeline typically set by your credit card and banking agencies.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@msb2948 it would have to be fast before he files for bankruptcy, but I agree.

[@thecorrnershed]

I know I have. It was December 22 when I ordered my GSO 5.1 and 4.5. Guessing I'll never see them now. Makes me sad. I did order one of the pre made GSO 4s and got it within a month. Beautiful pice of work.

[@Crayzeebonez]

Survive! Just released a video talking about liquidating assets, I’ve had an open order for about a year and half. So looks like I lost that money, and I feel bad because I see others in the comments out way more than I gave them. It’s just a bummer all around because they genuinely look like quality knives. I found Architect Knives which offer a product similar to Survive and were actually able to fill my order. Thanks for these videos, I appreciate your perspective on the matter.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@Crayzeebonez man it does absolutely suck for all the people he stole from. Architect is cool, especially in 3v and magnacut, and white river is amazing, and Schwarz, and Reiff, and TRC, etc

[@daginn896]

I remember I waited 4 months for my gso 4.5, and I found that frustrating and weird. It eventually made it's way to me in Norway. Never knew ppl had been waiting for years, if I did, I would never order from them. The quality is great, can't fault it, but not my fav knife. Handle is just not my cup of tea. I more often use my Helle knifes and Casströms, even my Mora Garberg get's more use. But again, can't fault the quality.

[@roughready]

Well cant say this wasn't expected. The dog house is looking comfy, lol.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Oh man, it's REALLY nice.

[@TheGunsNBlades]

I’d rather spend my money on a Worktuff gear blade

[@EarlyMist]

They just need to keep upgrading their steel (k390 and K490 have been a good step for instance). I own 20 or so of their blades 👍

[@djkmark]

It’s a red flag that he hasn’t shown his face at Blade show in seven + years.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

There are a lot of other industry people who also havent, at least he isn't banned from Blade so far as I know unlike some other people mentioned in this video haha

[@sirsir9665]

A good alternative is the Architect knives brand.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@sirsir9665 agreed

[@Redbeardblades]

1st camper background video!! 😂😂 I love it

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

It's nice having a spot without kids to escape to haha

[@chancepaladin]

thanks for getting the word out!

[@captnsnafu]

Got my EDC4 FFG 11 months after the order, It was long but I'm absolutely thrilled by the knife.

[@fredbrackely]

Survive owes me $425 for a GSO 12 I ordered over 3 years ago. If I ever see Guy, he's going to give me his wallet whilst he cries.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I doubt he has a wallet, he has no drivers license and no money and no bank account 🤷‍♂️

[@EarlyMist]

"Rot always Starts at the Top". That's a 99% true saying right there 👍

[@jasonmiller9495]

I was just in their site they are still taking orders for GSO3. All the other knives the pre order is closed. Man that’s crazy if they are still taking orders that can’t be fulfilled

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

That is crazy!

[@georgecook5120]

I don't know how you got to a page that allowed that, but I looked and you can't order anything from them now.

[@pacoayala]

The 2 times o bought a blade from survive I got it on time, still one of my favs

[@kelvinwilliams6999]

@pacoayala The GSO-5 that I ordered in 2013 took about 5 months to arrive. My two recent orders are nearing 2 years and still nothing. Yet, they seem to be selling new knives. Makes no sense. Never again. It's time for me to request a refund.

[@ninemimesleft]

So it wasn't magnacut's fault after all.

[@InGratitudeIam]

Thanks for the updates, Jacob. I hope Jon ends up okay after his attempt to make things right. It appears that Survive! failed to follow one of the most basic principles of life. That is, when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Why other YT channels were covering SK products is beyond me. With so many people who placed orders years ago and nothing to show for that, that should be covered and investigated, not some shiny little knife that does nothing to making people whole. Besides, with that kind of track record, what kind of warranty service could you expect? Next time I buy anything from a company I'm not familiar with, I'll check the BBB website first.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Smart

[@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223]

Would never pre order a knife. Nor would I ever tolerate 5+ years for one to be sent to me. Bad management for sure. And it'll only run any business right into the dirt.

[@marknarvaez8852]

I myself lost $350.00 i had gotten 2 knives but didn't receive my last knife witch was the most expensive but anyway i was just told that i wouldn't be receiving it so it's sad

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@marknarvaez8852 yeah it's a sad situation

[@billclancy4913]

"Back stabbing going on in the knife industry." LOL!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Lol indeed

[@georgecook5120]

This is a shame. I think I'm going to watch the video of Jacob dragging that dude who was threatening to sue him; this will cheer me up. 😀

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

🤣🤣🤣

[@dlrmon1]

In the back of my mind, I really wanted Survive to Succeed. But the pattern’s I started seeing from Guy and his business practices didn’t add up. When you combine that with all the magnitude of problems from close to day one, I gave up on them many years ago. What was worse for me was watching unsuspecting people being sucked in while any controllable media by Survive to warn people was been washed away. I am kinda glad to see this all playing out in a sizeable way as to better condition good people of the real nature of money in the world...

[@rkemp3118]

I'm still waiting on 2 knives from survive. It's been over 2 years and still waiting.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

That sucks

[@rkemp3118]

Yes, I will never buy from them again or pre-order from any knife maker. Thank you for your video

[@tacticalcenter8658]

rkemp3118 no one should pre order any product.

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

I have been watching the Survive drama play out & I must say that as a custom maker myself, it don't look good. They could've fixed this situ in several diff ways but for whatever reason seem to just keep making decsions that have made things worse. Personally I haven't cultivated much of an online presence (my biz is mostly word of mouth) b/c I don't like the social media craziness etc but it is hard not to participate these days & remain competitive. The blade game is pretty corrupt, though most all modern industries are by nature of functioning in this WEF/international banker ran puramid scheme we call the global economy. Lol

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

It's pretty wild man

[@TheAverageCriminal]

Well said !!!

[@joex]

thanks for the info!!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

💪🏻🤘🏻

[@TheAverageCriminal]

Huge fan. I named my 1st born after you!

[@joex]

@@TheAverageCriminal

[@kilam41171]

I placed an order (#16653) on Feb 8th 2022 for a V-5.5 Combat Blade: Combat Blade: Cru Forge V: Tungsten Cerakote Handle: Black G10 Sheath: Spring FDE Kydex Very Important:: Yes Guess I'm not getting that. Out $269. Left multiple messages, no reply.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@kilam41171 yeah they are dead man, I'm sorry to hear that.

[@SteinzVsKnives]

glad i found your channel brotha! i just started trying to make videos myself

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@SteinzVsKnives it's an uphill battle- make sure to have fun!

[@SteinzVsKnives]

@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors thank you brotha I will for sure and luckily Scab has taken me under his wing and given me some valuable information!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@SteinzVsKnives awesome! He's a better source of info for success than I am, that's for DANG sure!

[@mikeboyce21]

I'm so glad I got my survive gso 5 super early on. Before it all went to crap. Sad really cuz it's a great knife. Speaking of knives I just got my new Busse smatchet and I love it. It's badass 😎

[@zdenekbart]

I have some Busse for sale.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I'm glad you got it! Dude... what a LEGEND!!! I hope you can get a chance to feel well enough to swing it!!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 Feel free to reach out at any time btw if you need to.

[@mikeboyce21]

@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors thank you, it's always good to hear.

[@dlrmon1]

I totally agree with you’re assessment of Blade Forums with one exception. Aside from the BBB or Attorney General sites, Blade Forum’s was one of the only places the average person could get a sense of who Guy at “Survive Knives” really was...

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@dlrmon1 not even there. The basement dwellers there didn't even understand half of it I'm afraid. Not only that but seeing the sheer stupidity in that particular thread automatically discredited what they said. If a person doesn't know the difference between a ponzi scheme and a thief and they are clearly foaming at the mouth they are hard to take seriously. If there was some decent moderation in on the page however it could have been a valuable resource. There are good corners of BladeForums but trash management and a stupid price layout has made them few and far between.

[@dlrmon1]

@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors... I understand, I never got involved in any of the nuance. What I took from them was the shear number and type of complaints led me to think Survive had real issues...

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

That was certainly something good to pull from it!

[@thefishinglor6931]

From this angle, he knows exactly what he was doing and screwed himself then put in motion an escape plan at everyones expense. The prices were always just barely under market price to entice the majority of the community thinking we’re getting a top tier product for a good price but even now he’s blaming everyone but himself so yeah im done too and it’s actually satisfying to see him go down after all the robbery he’s done while straight faced lying to the customers and acting like he’s a victim. He’s not a monster but he’s definitely a fraud and a liar. Happy trails Sk! Look forward to laughing at your new alias trying to repeat your scam!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@thefishinglor6931 he actually probably is a monster. I'll have more info tonight before I clean my hands of it.

[@dlrmon1]

@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors...Lol...Back in tribal days, Guy’s type was the one that would get invited on a hunt, never to return...

[@joncox9719]

Due to the TEMENDOUS amount of $$$$ prepay's LOST, I would expect Guy to be facing Federal Fraud Charges! This Fraudulant Company was nothing more than a PONZI Scheme. Reason Federal Charges is that he ripped off people from all over the countrry.world! Looks Criminal to me! 😡😡🤬🤬

[@wordclock707]

5 unfulfilled orders here. At this point I'd be happy if they sent me the unfinished blanks I paid good money for.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@wordclock707 man I'm sorry to hear that 😓 I wish they would!

[@kevinAuman1]

The forums were only ever beneficial or good back when our long-lost friend Cliff Stamp was still alive and running the show in my opinion 😞 the way that they're micromanaged currently with about as much structure as a damn NY street gang the only reason I have for me to visit is researching a person, company or certain topic in the old archives... Really the only thing currently worth being on there is private knife sale listings lol-ol-ol

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@kevinAuman1 big agree!

[@gerardvanengelen9001]

Hope the industry is listening.

[@KnivesSurvival]

Yea i have steered away from them

[@justincrain5268]

I have an order from four years ago, and I don’t imagine I’ll ever see it or a refund

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I would say not sadly.

[@Canadian_Craftsman]

Serious camper brother heck yeah!!!✊️🔥✌️💚

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Thanks!

[@calvingillen9682]

I have four SURVIVE! knives at one point I ordered a 5.1 and after four months I said I could not wait any longer. Could they send me any of their blades they sent me a 7/7 I love all of them.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Glad you got them. I'm not familiar with the 7/7 but it sounds awesome

[@budfarkus]

Cool knives but bad business practices from the start. Those who went along knew what they were getting into early when buying knife from Survive. Those that didn't want to deal with the delays n shady stuff simply didn't order one. These are essentially a production knife with semi'custom touches n assembly. There was no reason to take people money upftont...built the knives and then release for sale. Pretty simple and standard business practices

[@furyroad7565]

✊️

[@gotsurvivalism]

I've been waiting two years for my order....🙄

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Man that's a rough deal

[@greencanopybushcraftsurviv6713]

Me too bro.😢

[@tmille10]

Totally agree with your take on his management, I get it’s a large capitol investment to do a run, but when you take money you damn sure better be on your game in this day and age to ensure it’s applied and utilized appropriately through the process, otherwise your burned. I don’t believe the whole magnacut fiasco either, at least not to the extent of destroying a company ,he got swamped and as a business owner I know how tight margins are, I have a labor intensive and material heavy high end landscape company and it doesn’t take much to get behind the weekly curve. I’ve seen one video from Guy and he seemed full of optimism but I think that’s when John was helping push things out. Just saw a survive knife in my work tuff group early and thought it was a reiff, fit and finish are great but that’s irrelevant if product isn’t in peoples hands being used, much less people that have paid, sometimes years ago. I’ll take a 4” on secondary but I’d never give them a dime after the last four years 😮

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 Reiff or even White River is the way for sure. Or Work Tuff. There was a time when Survive's style and attributes was really shocking and new. That time is long gone. The knives however ARE still very nice and are unique in that they are immediately recognizable- but it just isn't worth it.

[@christopherlarson7579]

Hey Jacob, so this is a wholehearted question. What do you think is the best way for someone to become a knife maker without getting burnt or have money stolen from them?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Man that is a HUGE question with so many variables that it's crazy. First off for my response I will answer for a person who wants to become a knife maker as in- they want to make knives. Not as in "I want to make a living making knives right away" I think a lot of good grinders and equipment will be for sale very soon cheap. It's already happening a bit. I would recommend a person first take a few knife making classes, get a few made with help, then buy used knife making gear to include a decent quality 2x72 grinder and start living your passion! You can't fail if you don't need to make a living doing it right away. Build a style and a following organically and do it for the passion! THEN if it works out and you still want to consider transitioning into actually making $

[@RadDadisRad]

Survive is dead to everyone. His website is down. He’s being investigated by the Pennsylvania Attorney General. Most likely he will have to do some sort of restitution and he won’t be issued a business license anywhere until he can pay back his debt.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

He is probably preparing to flee the country

[@RadDadisRad]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors probably

[@CaseySackett]

Thank you for your honesty and integrity. I very much appreciate it and it is so needed in this world today thank you thank you thank you!

[@sirsir9665]

I count myself fuckin lucky I got the knives I ordered. Of course I had to message him a few times to get my gso 5.1. The other was a 3.5 factory second so it was in stock. I got the other two from other people. Great knives but bad company. I'll still cherish them regardless of who produced them

[@jimbusmaximus4624]

I had a suspicion this video was coming... SO many people gave them a chance despite their reputation, so many willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Which sucks because the quality of their blades that I've personally seen definitely warranted it. .... And I've been chewed out before for saying pretty much the same thing by one of those psychotrolls with 29 alt accounts lol

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Man you mention even 1 positive or look at anything objectively and there are like a total of 6 psychos, or maybe 3 psychos with multiple accounts, that will lose their crap. They are probably directly tied to one of Survive's previous business dealings.

[@jimbusmaximus4624]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors exactly lol I've seen some really deranged rantings all using the same peculiar phraseology and same punctuation and spelling errors. I picture a guy in a dark basement surrounded by corkboard, thumbtacks and yarn lol

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@jimbusmaximus4624 👆🏻🎯

[@JDStone20]

Great video!!

[@timthomas2075]

I look at knife brands similarly to family and friends. If there's drama with either, i keep my distance, or walk away completely. There are still plenty of reputable companies putting out a good product, without the drama. I'll stick to these and keep pretending the others aren't there. Thank you Jacob. As always, you're up front and honest.

[@johnemmons8306]

You spoke with the founder of Blade Forums but you can’t remember his name…right.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@johnemmons8306 it's Kevin- he owns one stop knife shop. I have a picture with him and his personal cell but yeah, remembering his name is what is important. If you want to troll be less stupid about it, it'll make it more believable

[@johnemmons8306]

You’re nothing more than an apologist for the liars and thieves that ran the ongoing con called Survive knives. The people on Blade forums who have correctly and accurately described the scam at Survive for years have brought attention to you and the other shills and apologists so you’re trying to divert attention away from your own culpability in the scam. @@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors

[@alu.304]

I bought 2 of his knives back in 2012, early supporter. Wow, did he F up a good thing. Heard a ton of horror stories around 2015 - 2016. Sad that a dude making nice blades that cannot run a business in an ethical manner.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Big agree

[@Ben4reel]

Bladeforums is a nice way to throw your money away. If you disagree with the moderators for any reason, flip a coin on whether you get banned or not.. and the mods crack jokes all the time about how there’s “no refunds” for people that get banned.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

👆🏻🎯

[@mrjohngambles]

I bought 4 knives and only received 3. I guess i got lucky

[@cbisbey1043]

Anyone want to organize a class action lawsuit? It may be like squeezing water from a rock but after watching all videos and staying in contact about my outstanding orders, I absolutely no longer trust his integrity and motives.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@cbisbey1043 0 trust for him is right. A class action is a good idea but I think he will be bankrupt before then.

[@tmille10]

Excellent video by the way Jacob….

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Thanks!

[@charles17508]

There is a lot of shit bag people and companies maybe don't go in to something whole heartedly and do your review in a company before putting faith into something to be let down only to be a shit bag and someone that throws stones.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@charles17508 luckily I never went into into something wholeheartedly and I didn't do a single review. So there is that.

[@hogrotten6897]

I came here to look for your store, I want a sling. How do I accomplish this ?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Beachintactical.com

[@HeavySetTactical409]

Jacob you always do such a clear job of explaining your points and thank you for recognizing my efforts. I failed in the end yes. But I tried my hardest and got alot out to deserving customers in the process. I tried everything there wad to try. And your video was very accurate my friend. I will post my discussion tonight or tomorrow explaining what occurred and what I believe is occurring now. And you never tried to blow smoke brother you are always objective and truth based. Thank you jacob.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Thanks man! You did a LOT of knife nerds a HUGE favor and the sad part is they may never realize it.

[@danygodbout979]

Ill probably loose 2k with survive but the truth as of now no one know what’s going on.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Well... a few people know what's going on... try to get that 2k back ASAP in case survive files for bankruptcy because if that happens I don't think you'll ever see that money again.

[@danygodbout979]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I know a lot of people will think that’s the stupidest thing but I still hope to get my knives 🥹😅

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@danygodbout979 I understand

[@LeonExcellence]

I use to be the guy showing support for Survive liking the video following on instagram and KZbin, then I noticed a trend where KZbinrs were getting free knives to review and I’ve been waiting for my knife in magnacut for three years now! WTF 🤨 that’s total bs and I’m not the only one wanting on a knife for years now there’s hundreds of people who got fucked! But KZbinrs are getting free knives left to right!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

It's really sad that you had to make yet another account to interact. At least you are trying to act like an adult this time 🤣

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I have had no contact with Guy- and you still can't define what a shill is. Run back to your worthless corner of a dead forum to be irrelevant with your 3 imaginary friends. 🤣

[@WhatsthePOINT_EDC]

This is a crazy world we live in. A lot of Gatekeeping, paid opposition, & shady practices go on. Keep pumping out quality knives bud!👊💪

[@tacticalcenter8658]

The thing is... You can point out issues with brands, but the fanboys will burry you.

[@emanuelroth7960]

Bro, I have a strong feeling we got unfriended by the software on FB. It's been happening repeatedly to me over the past few years. Send me a friend request unless you unfriended me on purpose. I'll accept it once I get back on FB in a few days (I'm on my cell and have FB only on my laptop). All the best!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Request sent! That's really weird!!!

[@emanuelroth7960]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors FB does it to me all the time. I've been friends with Jerry Hossom since forever and FB has unfriended us like 3 times now. We're as likeminded as it gets so it's not like either of us are doing it. The software is screwy. Oh, and force left groups too, not just friends. Gets on my nerves.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@emanuelroth7960 it's just manipulation 😓

[@emanuelroth7960]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I hate to think so but yeah, it happens so systematically I can't understand what else it would be.

[@meidamx]

Damn.

[@petervanderveer1933]

To big to soon,

[@tacticalcenter8658]

Bf is the worst forum around. They did have some great posts in knife making section years ago with actual makers who knew what they were talking about. But then no other section read that sub section.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

I dont really care about what happens to survive. But there are issues that, have made more people aware because of survive. Issues with Crucible and Peter's, which overall are good but need improvements. Other brands use m390 and use aweful heat treatment protocols, so its not just specific issues with the brands being discussed here alone in the industry.

[@Ben4reel]

Bladeforums is complete garbage. The “super moderators” ban paid members all the time for disagreeing with them and they actually crack jokes about “no refunds”. 90% of bans on that site are for minor disagreements.. particularly with Boru13 and Blues, the handles for the two most active admin. It’s so bad that people chargeback their credit cards and file PayPal disputes over it. Do NOT pay a single penny to that forum… and if you really want to have some fun, try Google searching Kevin Schlossberg’s name and reviewing the hits that come up. The site owner is MIA most of the time and the inmates run the asylum.. which is a guaranteed disaster for any forum.

[@joshuahoward7567]

I’m pretty sure they just dead

[@christianrink1891]

I pre-ordered a gso 3 s90v in January 2024, looks like I got ripped off 🫣$200

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Probably 😓

[@christianrink1891]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors what are some of the better online knife websites? To trade, buy, sell

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@christianrink1891 ridgerunner blades, Arizona knife co, old town cutlery for other than standard brands and custom makers.

[@christianrink1891]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors thanks! I know about Arizona 👍

[@jasonmiller9495]

Survives problem is Dutch Bushcrafters. Survive was not ready for the influx of business due to that video. It’s funny whenever that channel likes a knife the way it performs you can bet the second that upload hits KZbin the knife advertised will be out of stock almost everywhere and will double or triple in value. The power of advertising on KZbin is crazy. If Survive couldn’t fill the pre orders they should have shut down their site until they were better prepared. The worst thing that could happen to a small knife company is to get too big too fast especially if you’re not prepared to make that much product

[@KnivesSurvival]

Thats is what seems to have happened

[@coolbreezy37]

Not even close, S! Has been doing this for over a decade.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

The sheep watching influencers is crazy

[@stormsigma]

Oh dear, the ignorance of history here is (chef's kiss).

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Yeah Survive has had issues from day 1 and the issues start and end with Guy. Undoubtedly Guy did have real problems to encounter along the way, any brand does, but at the end of the day he is the problem.

[@Chambelona59]

YAWN 🥱 😴

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

So EDGY!

[@jakes255]

Bro, its over. Get over it. Stop bashing a company that no longer exists. People that kick laying dogs are useless, just like your negative videos about survive knives.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

What an ironic comment 🤣

[@stavrosmihalis3502]

Guy took my money $339 for a GSO-12 in 2020 and I never received the knife or a refund. I emailed Guy and have commented but nothing changed. Guy tried responding that orders are being fulfilled but I never received anything yet.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@stavrosmihalis3502 and sadly you never will- survive is dead