😂. Love you guys. The broken basement window was a huge red flag to me. The distinct “d” in the “letter” also stood out to me. I think more craziness was happening in that family that we could even imagine.
@survivingpod19 күн бұрын
I'm not sure we'll really ever know the full truth 😕
@Tcon196921 күн бұрын
Love your podcast! One note about crime scenes - I know the 90s feel like ages ago to people who were children at that time, but as a 90s adult, i can assure you that protecting crime scenes was a well known thing back then. We had all the crime news magazine shows - dateline, 48 hours, 60 minutes, 20/20, and many more. The fact that the police allowed everyone and their uncle to walk freely around the house is insane. You guys made me think about how police and former military are often perpetrators of crimes and it made me wonder about that cop who wrote the book. This man just doubles down on his theory - maybe he's trying to shift the blame. I'd put him at the top of my suspect list!
@survivingpod21 күн бұрын
and don't forget about crazy eyes Detective Linda Arndt...she said she looked into the eyes of the murderer, but she didn't say it was John Ramsey
@Tcon196921 күн бұрын
@survivingpod she was completely nuts! I never understand people who defend the police carte blanche because this nut job is an example of poor hiring practices😆
@randmmitch19 күн бұрын
How John Ramsey has maintained his composure and contained his anger at the ineptitude of the Boulder Police all these years is beyond my comprehension.
@survivingpod19 күн бұрын
We're frustrated 😤 and we're just watching this 28 years later.
@A852-m9c26 күн бұрын
LOL guys, I don't think by 'broken window' he meant smashed glass.. more like the hardware needed repairing 😆 Keeping in mind context - this was the 90s, he was the breadwinner - wldn't be surprised if household tasks were left to Patsy and being immediately post-treatment for stage 4 ca, it might have slipped her mind. I personally think the Burke theory is insane. Even if he could crack her on the head, to then lug her to the basement, with no sound, and think of all these deplorable things to do to her? Make a garrote?? Nutso. Also his being on the Autism Spectrum rings very true re: his behaviour/reactions/awkward laughing etc. The police seemed entirely useless and tunnel vision from the get go. Would love to see the mixed DNA texted at current standards and it's unacceptable that they can just .. refuse to do that??
@survivingpod25 күн бұрын
John did say he broke the window, and there are interviews of Patsy saying she made sure to clean up the glass from it - so I'm not sure how damaged it was, but it sounded like there was shattered glass to some extent. And yes! The Burke theory was interesting after the 2016 CBS doc, but it becomes ridiculous when applying it to the entire case. We're 100% on an intruder - probably ex-military/law enforcement who had access to the pageants, perhaps a security guard or something like that. Stalker obsessive who had been in the house multiple times without the family knowing which explains how he was VERY familiar with the layout of the house. The DNA keeps ruling people out - we need to be sure it's valid and accurate!