Zoe Washburn I love how this season was a huge shock for Jeff Tony can’t win-Wins Spencer can’t go far-Gets to the final4 and was told he was gonna win by the jury when he entered ponderosa
@ianstephenson97215 жыл бұрын
Tony without Trish is just Wardog
@nickTreue14 жыл бұрын
“Spencer has zero chance at winning this game” comes top 4
@ChloroPhobeTarantino10 жыл бұрын
J'Tia: "I'm already looking forward to building the shelter- I already drew it out." Well, look at how that turned out.
@taruneisen9904 жыл бұрын
Tbf, she didn't do anything worse than Ruperts shelter
@brendanlu51834 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised she has a PhD. Horrible player.
@jy42834 жыл бұрын
I’m a nuclear enginEEr
@omisan771 Жыл бұрын
@@brendanlu5183 She later complained the show was "racist" by making her look dumb. She was terrible in all 3 aspects of the game (physical, strategy and social) and she threw a tantrum by sabotaging the camp. How the hell could they have made her look good?
@jackbenedict42594 жыл бұрын
Jeff: “Spencer has zero chance of winning this game” Spencer: “Kass: zero chance of winning the game”
@laineefoester9144 жыл бұрын
I laughed out loud when i read that! So true!!!!
@reignmystic54254 жыл бұрын
That comment deserves an award
@toodley4 жыл бұрын
He completely turned Jeff around
@noahmeadows72934 жыл бұрын
Kass: "Jeff, zero chance of winning this game"
@nerdsrus56427 жыл бұрын
" Garrett is the brightest guy out here " BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@toodley4 жыл бұрын
How did that turn out?
@taruneisen9904 жыл бұрын
I think base intelligence wise, he probably was. But he sucked too hard at the game
@bangaliekanu58524 жыл бұрын
“I left my idol at camp”
@brokenpikachu94914 жыл бұрын
“J’Tia you’re going home”
@brendanlu51834 жыл бұрын
Actually J'tia is. She has a PhD. Nah they both suck
@devanbeaty33738 жыл бұрын
"If kass tries to be a villain it won't work" CHAOS KASS SLAY
@jithinprakash4496 жыл бұрын
But survivor need villains. And kass is a good one. I want her back ond Heroes vs villains 2.
@blam93603 жыл бұрын
Mass nailed the villain role. She was the villain we all love to hate.
@XxTR1D3 жыл бұрын
Kass is one of the biggest goats on survivor. And I don’t mean the greatest of all time goats, but the I’ll bring you to the end your bad goats.
@mildtotemperate3 жыл бұрын
and it didn't work.
@ZoeWashburn8 жыл бұрын
"Spencer has zero chance of winning this game" gets to final four his first season, final three his second
@peiransong33648 жыл бұрын
But to be fair, you can't blame Jeff for making those comments on Spencer, because he is exactly what Jeff think of him. I hate Spencer for his personally
@patrickwu96898 жыл бұрын
Zoe Washburn Well he didn't win...
@EvilCacturne8 жыл бұрын
Hmm, the facts don't lie...he's a two time loser of Survivor!
@Thepokedek7 жыл бұрын
but he still didnt won tho lol
@KeyanCarlile7 жыл бұрын
The fact that he reached the Final Three and got zero Jury votes proves that he has a zero percent chance of winning Survivor.
@FateTin10 жыл бұрын
TASHA IS ALMOST 40???????????????? Dayouuuuum !! She looks amazing !!
@xAlphaBxtch8 жыл бұрын
Hakyeon Ruined Me I thought she was like... 23
@carly67936 жыл бұрын
IKR
@ianstephenson97215 жыл бұрын
Black don't crack
@Shelbert8810 жыл бұрын
I like how Jeff is like "Spencer has 0 chance of winning" and then he becomes Spencer's biggest fan towards the end. The irony
@luciamezzapelle38544 жыл бұрын
“Tony can’t win the game” wins the game “Spencer has zero chance of winning” Makes it to final 4 and had the votes to win if he won immunity, which he almost did « Garrett is the brightest guy out here » gets voted out second for probably the dumbest strategy ever on the show.. Well done probst
@SeanMcG9 жыл бұрын
When probst says the two best people in the season can't win
@Delective4 жыл бұрын
And tony becomes a two-time winner
@chickenchicken90723 жыл бұрын
Spencer is terrible wym
@amineam31273 жыл бұрын
@@Delective thank you for the spoil
@voodoomcspaghettipants40823 жыл бұрын
@@chickenchicken9072 lmao Spencer is a great player
@chickenchicken90723 жыл бұрын
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 Overrated af and got bitter at Kass for outplaying him
@ethancostellostudent16984 жыл бұрын
“Tony can’t win” *becomes 2nd ever 2 time winner
@scooterit4 жыл бұрын
Ethan Costello ( Student ) yeah that is gonna happen. Tony is da king of survivor!!
@parkerboone16624 жыл бұрын
I really hope so
@smallss71974 жыл бұрын
No
@bradymosberger62714 жыл бұрын
natilie is gonna fuck it all up from extinction which im so mad about
@scooterit4 жыл бұрын
@@bradymosberger6271 not anymore, Tony won!
@focker88410 жыл бұрын
Me and Yung-"Woo" were neighbors waayyyy back in the day back in Ohio and went to the same schools (he was a year older). Always had the charisma and confidence to be on something like Survivor. Awesome family. Dude's martial arts is for real...he's been doing these moves back in early elementary school. Can't wait to see him, and more than anything, proud of the dude!
@lilballathasmall34510 жыл бұрын
nice
@davidm90264 жыл бұрын
Bro was ONE bad decision away from taking home the million
@Delective4 жыл бұрын
@@davidm9026 but also made Tony a two-time winner
@tonysllama44784 жыл бұрын
@@Delective Nope. Tony made himself a two time winner.
@mallorygrace900610 жыл бұрын
"I don't think tony can win this game." 😐
@Thepokedek7 жыл бұрын
did you watch game changers OOPT
@domchocolate90944 жыл бұрын
The Tess-Shocker But still he won lol
@michaelmather38384 жыл бұрын
The Tess-Shocker have you seen winners at war😂
@LazerDude10 жыл бұрын
Jeff is usally spot on with his casting calls but he was WAAAAYYY off when it came to spencer
@OrangeHand10 жыл бұрын
Spencer hasn't won yet.
@LazerDude10 жыл бұрын
No but do you think if he got to the end he would win? That is still better then the zero chance that Jeff gave him
@CCUguy12310 жыл бұрын
If Spencer gets to the final two, he is DEFINITELY going to win!
@SandShrewdGaming10 жыл бұрын
And Tony
@MLeveilleeMinistries10 жыл бұрын
And Tony: "I don't think Tony can win this game."
@joshbensen0210 жыл бұрын
Its fun to watch these during and after the show.
@henryjohnson486010 жыл бұрын
One of the best casting selections yet.
@matbolabc10 жыл бұрын
Best cast we've had in seasons! It's also nice that only a very few were recruited this time!
@BladeBlur7 жыл бұрын
Since then only MvGX topped it
@funkycrawler6197 жыл бұрын
I liked Kaoh Rong too
@kelbylesage5376 жыл бұрын
BladeBlur No way, Cagayan is still the best season since HvV. Everyone except maybe Cliff was memorable and everyone played the game well or played it in an exciting way. MvGX was boring since Adam was an obvious winner, and the fact that the only super memorable people were Adam, David, Zeke, Jay, and Michaela.
@khensiapco33365 жыл бұрын
Kelby LeSage cagayan and hvV are the best seasons, but i dont think mvgx is THAT bad. not the best but still not the worst. And about memorable cast in cagayan, the only ones not memorable to me is probably garrett and david due to the fact they went so early. EDIT : screw it Brice is the least memorable, you know its bad when i forget about someone.
@midnalazuli7932 жыл бұрын
@@kelbylesage537 Why did you single out Cliff of all people? He's easily more memorable than most of, if not, ALL of the Beauty tribe.
@LivingLaughingLoving89710 жыл бұрын
He nailed his kass prediction.
@EzraDair9 жыл бұрын
+zachcreed and Woo too
@reignmystic54254 жыл бұрын
“Jefra has the best chance of winning this game out of the young women” Somehow he wasn’t wrong
@brokenpikachu94914 жыл бұрын
Well she was the last Beauty member in the game
@lychee45604 жыл бұрын
@@brokenpikachu9491 She floated there though...
@jacoblangguth51253 жыл бұрын
@@lychee4560 according to post game interviews she played a big part in getting kass to flip
@koujibiites3 жыл бұрын
@@lychee4560 she didn't float she survived bc of trish
@celestialmaddie8 жыл бұрын
"I dont think Tony can win this game" I totally agree. *sarcasm*
@mr.pockets85234 жыл бұрын
Wins twice XD
@sheMan3210 жыл бұрын
NEW CASTS ARE THE BEST! HAVEN'Y BEEN THIS EXCITED FOR A CAST IN YEARS!
@silentassasin-q8l10 жыл бұрын
yeah but the last two seasons that had new casts(nicaragua and one world) were really bad
@sasuke5541410 жыл бұрын
***** What are you talking about? Nicaragua is probably the 2nd/3rd best season since Heroes Vs. Villains and was very entertaining until the double quit episode. The only two season(s) better are Philippines and Blood Vs. Water. One World was terrible, but I enjoyed it because it gave me one of my favorite winners in Kim.
@sheMan3210 жыл бұрын
***** very true, but even watching cast videos for those I wasn't excited, not enough players, just people the producers thought would be good characters. These guys seem like good PLAYERS.
@SpankyHotDog10 жыл бұрын
***** One World was horrific but Nicaragua was an AMAZING season.
@sheMan3210 жыл бұрын
***** what like the idiots in redemption island, south pacific and caramoan? because they were just as clueless as everyone in ow.
@aldckenz Жыл бұрын
“Out here, nobody cares how you look “ Parvati: ahem…
@truthmango12274 жыл бұрын
"Garrett is the brightest guy out here" Garrett- Out by first episode "Tony can't win" Tony- Wins twice
@MythicalPhoebe4 жыл бұрын
this is a very interesting video because there are two survivor winners in it. it's just so interesting to go back and see what people thought of them before they hit the grand slam.
@charleskettering29983 жыл бұрын
I love how Spencer looks so nice and goofy while Jeff is talking so much smack about him
@JakeGoesOnline10 жыл бұрын
Rewatched this... And the first of each tribe to leave, were the first shown
@beybaktube106 жыл бұрын
Jeff Probst: "Spencer has 0 chance of winning this game" Spencer: "Kass, 0% chance of winning the game" I see what you did there
@CurtisDAcker9 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff way off about Spencer still can't believe Tony won Spencer totally destroyed everyone that year
@sensarmy8 жыл бұрын
ikr
@WillTaco4568 жыл бұрын
Tony & Trish >> Spencer
@mikemena33576 жыл бұрын
Will Tucker um Trish ain’t better than Spencer It goes 1) Tony 2) Spencer 3) Kass 4) Trish
@SLOVANLIBEREC1010 жыл бұрын
Woo and Spencer - One of them has to win.
@seanadultperson43374 жыл бұрын
J D Um... Who’s going to tell em.
@jeffogilvy51419 жыл бұрын
See what happens when you put fans on the show....
@w5k4258 жыл бұрын
Survivor Micronesia
@blues22706 жыл бұрын
ghost islands
@jackbenedict42594 жыл бұрын
W5K not a good comparison
@brokenpikachu94914 жыл бұрын
Jack Benedict that was literally a Fans vs Favorites season
@ytkenny55 жыл бұрын
"Lindsay is someone I really like" *Quits the game because one of her allies got blindsided "Nevermind"
@AmyVandykenn9 жыл бұрын
WOW TASHA WAS ALMOST 40?1
@villevn10 жыл бұрын
2 weeks and we're on!
@tobiaswoodward490510 жыл бұрын
Probst got this so wrong haha
@OrangeHand10 жыл бұрын
I love Jeff's assessment of Spencer, which I've been saying since the cast was revealed: he's going to fall hard.
@OrangeHand10 жыл бұрын
***** The game's not over yet, we'll see. If he wins, good for him.
@Eboe8910 жыл бұрын
IOwnTheSpire Regardless of if Spencer wins, you and Jeff were both wrong about him having 0% of winning and "falling hard." If he by some miracle gets to the Final 2, he wins for sure.
@OrangeHand10 жыл бұрын
Ethan Stoops Having watched the season, his chances of winning are indeed strong should he make it to the end (against Kass he wins for sure). I think Jeff is basing his assessment off previous players who were too smart for their own good, and in another season, Spencer could easily have blindsided.
@ImposterMarcus10 жыл бұрын
He got 4th place, that's really good, hope they bring him for another season
@ffillabong10 жыл бұрын
Jon Fincher is a POSER comes to mind.
@dundermifflinpaperco.69854 жыл бұрын
Jeff: I don’t think Tony can win this game. Wins twice.
@aurorakelm98203 жыл бұрын
HE WON TWICE- am I an idiot which season did he win the second time
@dundermifflinpaperco.69853 жыл бұрын
@@aurorakelm9820 winners at war
@rexer1910 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this new season...
@justin961304 жыл бұрын
"Tony can't win" *Ends up winning that game Underestimates Spencer: *Becomes a fan favorite and made it to the Final 4 in this season and final 3 in future season "Kass can't be a villain" *Becomes one of the most unlikable villains in the show's history
@scooterit4 жыл бұрын
MC MAYONNAISE I mean people actually appreciate kass now..
@thorjohnson25164 жыл бұрын
Idk why people think he’s unlikable I love her
@marvelousmeh20774 жыл бұрын
She's pretty likable thought.
@barrettw37314 жыл бұрын
I love kass she’s great TV
@BurghNation-ze6et3 жыл бұрын
We not gonna pretend he didn't go 2/3 on those predictions...
@ewapluci10 жыл бұрын
Can not wait today!!!
@matheikazsofia77275 жыл бұрын
"You know we don't have the staff that you can buy, but the three of us have everything that you can't buy". - Just an amazing message!
@ianstephenson97215 жыл бұрын
Trish was a true boss in this game. Really rare to see women her age do well in this game.
@rowan45734 жыл бұрын
"Tony can't win" Tony proceeds to be one of the best winners of all time
@trollwayy59814 жыл бұрын
Probably the best ever
@gabrieltrue14904 жыл бұрын
@@trollwayy5981 yeppp
@shoWbitz3 жыл бұрын
The Male Llama of Survivor winners! 😂👌👍💪
@annjohnson218510 жыл бұрын
After watching some of the season my picks are Brawn: Woo Brains: Spencer Beauty: LJ
@sonarimo10 жыл бұрын
Boat- Beauty Helicopter - Brains Truck - Brawn thats their "vehicles" to the island :)
@TheKYLEdavid8 жыл бұрын
+sonarimo Jeff said that the reason that they had them taking different modes of transportation was to immediately cause inter-tribal tension. It was so that the Brawns would see the Beauties come in on a speedboat, and be jealous of them because they had to ride on a bumpy dirt road. Then when the Brains come in on a helicopter, the Brawns and the Beauties would be jealous that they didn't get a helicopter. Meanwhile the Brains would see that both of the other tribes were already there first, and subconsciously think that their tribe would get singled out later in the game. I believe the reason why they were trying to cause tensions like that is because they wanted the original tribes to stick together come merge time, in order to keep the game as a "Brains VS Brawns VS Beauties" format.
@WazzupDude4710 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that the three he doubted most (Tony, Kass, Spencer) all made it to the final four and none of them were goats
@TheThemeParksGuy278 жыл бұрын
+Melvin No Greatest of all time (:
@bigchill42035 жыл бұрын
Lmao what? Kass was the biggest goat in the season, if not, in survivor history. When she flipped, she created a bitter jury, and she constantly was passive-aggressive, brought negativity everywhere, and always formed rivalries with everyone. When she was voted out, _no one_ - and you can check her Ponderosa video for a fact - even wanted to talk to her, let alone look at her. The whole jury raised their hands for Woo when asked who they’d vote for in a Final 2 with Kass and Woo.
@ItsCayboo4 жыл бұрын
@@bigchill4203 That's not what a goat is. A goat is someone that rides coattails and never really plays the game. Kass was no goat
@ГлебБелиал4 жыл бұрын
@@ItsCayboo No, Goat is the person who has no chances at winning the game because they'll never get a majority of the votes. There's even such thing as "power goat". Power goats are people who will not receive a majority of votes despite playing a strategic/dominant game
@ohandthefracking4 жыл бұрын
@@ГлебБелиал kass was neither AND this cast had REALLY bitter jury
@xanh35010 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh man can't wait for first episode ! it didn't come out here yet.
@johnappleseed2033 жыл бұрын
Spencer has to be one of my favorites of all time.
@notnatwhothat10 жыл бұрын
Spencer absolutely has to come back. He deserved the title of soul survivor more than anyone else in this season.
@emilyhawk33874 жыл бұрын
Watching this video in 2020 when Tony is positioned to win for a second time (and maybe even Sarah?) is amazing #TeamTV
@timsimtv10 жыл бұрын
jeff is so knowledgeable about how people work
@charleskettering29983 жыл бұрын
I love how Spencer kept giving the camera goofy funny looks while Probst trashed him lmfao
@reginamachamer8213 жыл бұрын
6:20 "I'm a good looking dude.. and that matters" and then the cut to Jeremiah smiling lmao I am dying over the editing for this
@STSairman10 жыл бұрын
Woo all the way baby!!
@Smokey-254 жыл бұрын
1:09 then he goes on to win twice
@blueshift25419 жыл бұрын
wow Probst's assessment for Spencer was spot on
@bradyham497910 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what the hell a cap is? And why the caps don't do wail?
@MikaLovesChocolatte10 жыл бұрын
Cops.
@bradyham497910 жыл бұрын
I know.
@coqui98795 жыл бұрын
m gennelle 4 year old wooosh
@lukefischer13234 жыл бұрын
“Tony can’t win” Becomes the greatest to every play
@politicaelectonia62763 жыл бұрын
SANDRA
@magnumcyclonex10 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait!
@rilanfoss51524 жыл бұрын
Garrett: says his mastered survivor strategy. Also Garrett: gets voted out second.
@reginamachamer8213 жыл бұрын
When Jeff said "he shows that the Beauty tribe isn't just about beauty on the outside.. but on the inside" about Brice like omg that is the most backhanded of compliments I've ever heard lmao
@alistairmelville93198 жыл бұрын
jeff i don't think tony can win this game jeff on finally night THE WINNER OF SURVIVOR TONY
@radrew684 Жыл бұрын
I met Latasha in person here in STL and she was very down to earth
@ratfinkabooboo184 жыл бұрын
Jeff says Tony can’t win, but he’s about to win for the second time tomorrow
@spyroapplesauce6 жыл бұрын
Garrett? The brightest guy out there??? Jeff. Have you not spoken to Spencer?
@KrimzunFlare10 жыл бұрын
My final 3: Woo, Alexis, J'tia My realistic final 3: Woo, LJ, Tasha? Idk why, but I want Alexis and Woo to hook up at the tribal switch Thats a hot couple right there
@KrimzunFlare10 жыл бұрын
awww yeah! why not make it a triple threat while we are it? Morgan? lol
@downset610 жыл бұрын
Shit, I’d hook up with Woo if I had the chance. He’s a great looking guy with a really nice, humble and laid back personality. Why not right?
@KrimzunFlare10 жыл бұрын
He's my fave, but i'm not gay lol
@downset610 жыл бұрын
***** C'mon dude, I'm not that stupid. I know he's straight. Still doesn't change my opinion.
@MLeveilleeMinistries10 жыл бұрын
Does that mean that I have a chance with Alexis? jk
@tjgetts26057 жыл бұрын
Good job Spencer Kass and Tony. Good job.
@ryankmetz374010 жыл бұрын
Even better! I might actually have a chance to get on the show.
@philipthomas89286 жыл бұрын
Jeff : I don't think Tony can win this game Tony: Jeffery hold my bear
@miagandara79406 жыл бұрын
“I don’t think kass is gonna know who she is in this game” She’s chaos kass Probst get it right!
@jarridhall26897 жыл бұрын
Jeff is just over here roasting people!!
@Conhair78910 жыл бұрын
This will be good
@renevelation65864 жыл бұрын
1:09 ..... And 6 years later not only has Tony won Survivor Cagayan but he proceeded to win winners at war and is now the greatest player of all time.
@dembonez1910 жыл бұрын
Sarah and Tasha are my favorites based on the interviews. Right now, I hope one of them wins it all.
@jacob2208198810 жыл бұрын
I love jeffs explaination for y Bryce is a beauty
@sbybo8 жыл бұрын
Spencer was my fav
@judestebner37913 жыл бұрын
Woo and Fabio are so much alike and I loved them both.
@hoverschmoover10 жыл бұрын
Hoping and praying this is a great season. Looks like a good group. I like Tasha, Trish and Sarah based on first impressions.
@paticitanavarro10 жыл бұрын
Loved this season!!! funny to see that no one had Tony between the favorites lol...
@ethangc0813 жыл бұрын
J-Tia: It's not gonna be fancy but it's gonna be sturdy as hell Tasha: sits on the shelter and it breaks immediately
@reginamachamer8213 жыл бұрын
Lmao Jeff's assessment of Spencer is hilarious 😂 I love Spencer so much but like.. he wasn't wrong lol
@mcmk96614 жыл бұрын
Best season of all time
@Gamer-ue2ix4 жыл бұрын
I’m watching after winners at war and when probst said tony can’t win I was dying
@mrjollyguy2510 жыл бұрын
Well, it's ABOUT TIME we've had a fresh new cast of excited newbies without any veterans. Oh well, CBS, better late than never. :)
@irvinembalsado148810 жыл бұрын
"I don't think Tony can win this game." - Jeff Probst. LOL
@bryangul010 жыл бұрын
Not surprised at who Jeff's favorites are LOL. Big strong men. Go Morgan and J'Tia!!!!!!
@landonweaver10403 жыл бұрын
Jeff: Spencer has zero chance of winning this game. Spencer: Kass, zero chance of winning this game.
@MythicalPhoebe4 жыл бұрын
jeff cast some real shade on spencer wow haha.
@samanthasherman67508 жыл бұрын
i loved Woo this whole time!! he was my favourite(:
@tadeassrobar35274 жыл бұрын
Jeff: I dont think Tony can win this game Tony: wins twice
@fdkg28410 жыл бұрын
can´t wait
@fdkg28410 жыл бұрын
good cast
@Lili.sim0ne10 жыл бұрын
How wrong he was about Spencer...
@TheLike_Button4 жыл бұрын
Not really. He’s lost every time he’s played. He comes off as a douchebag irl
@garnetBUNNIES4 жыл бұрын
Rip Cliff
@JayVisMVids8 жыл бұрын
Opposite of Survivor 32 w/ Scot Pollard (NBA Player).
@ryanmeneo630110 жыл бұрын
Its fun to watch these late in the season to see what jeff say compared to reality
@senorgarcia947110 жыл бұрын
couldnt they see how boring cliff is? even the way he talks makes u fall asleep... i rly like cliff, but he was not a good contestant for survivor
@hedwig04110 жыл бұрын
Woo, LJ and Sarah! :D
@scottdylansinger3 жыл бұрын
Love to have a Trish, Garrett, J'Tia, Brice, Morgan, LJ and Jefra return. Rest in Piece Cliff
@jacobmorejead812210 жыл бұрын
I have thought about this all day! Here is my elimination order: Alexis, Brice, Kass, J'tia, Trish, Morgan, Cliff, LJ MERGE Lindsay, Spencer, Tony Tasha, Garrett, Jefra, David And my final 3: 3rd: Sarah 2nd: Woo 1st: Jeremiah What do you guys think?
@OrangeHand10 жыл бұрын
Not bad, though I think they'll merge at 12.
@jacobmorejead812210 жыл бұрын
:/ I think you are right... + I didn't know about the SuperMagaAwsomeFoxyHot so I guess I'll Still stick with the same order... maybe?
@qflendrag5073 жыл бұрын
Why do people hate Spencer? I love Spencer he’s smart and could at challenges.
@crystalkessho956210 жыл бұрын
Obvious favorites to win are Sarah and Garrett. I think they have the most qualities that are needed to win this game and go further. Sarah figuring out that Tony was a cop was huge; it's clear she knows how to read people and, to the same extent, read what they're thinking. Garrett seems to have a Triple A status, being able to use strategy, physicality, and social bonds to put him further in the game. He reminds me of Malcolm in terms of how I think he'll be able to play the game. Hopefully they both do well. Can't wait to see how this BBB season plays out!
@carsonmccord62268 жыл бұрын
Jeff was very wrong about tony, but he was spot on with woo