Do YOU Need Upper Control Arms For A 2 Inch Lift? - Which One Should You Get?

What are the benefits of getting Upper Control Arms for your vehicle and do you really need them for a 2 inch lift?
In this video we'll cover everything you need to know about Upper Control Arms, how they work, what they do for your alignment and what happens when you don't install them with a lift kit!
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[@FulcrumSuspensions1976]

*Correction* :@3:08 we say positive and negative toe back to front. However the premise is still the same.

[@antonreyment8945]

This is the explanation I’ve been looking for, thank you.

[@bigdogg9644]

Very informative, Great presentation.

[@irodriguez8870]

Super educational went front not knowing anything to understanding what I need thanks

[@jamesm6341]

Best explanation thank you

[@lindseyrobinson4986]

Super clear, great for the laymen and absolutely correct. I probably would have left that Hilux pretty close to where it was in the "red." On a another note, how good are those hunters? Hands down best machine I've ever had the pleasure of using.

[@jfriday1ify]

Why doesn't Superpro sell those UCA's in the USA? SPC is another option but they have a bad Rap here.

[@robertboyd321]

Been in a MN Triton with Fulcrum control arms and everything was good except for the ride feel, rubber bushes may wear out quicker but the difference in ride is worth it.

[@lindseyrobinson4986]

Have you got good shocks? I have an MN too, UCA made it drive better, I didn't notice any ride feel changes, just steering and handling. I found good shocks (I have Bilstein), and correct spring application makes all the difference. For example, throwing 2" lift HD's in a ute with no bullbar or weight on the front, will cause a terrible ride. The harder poly bushes just extubate that issue.

[@francisalexander3440]

Hey there! I dont know much about UCA's and suspensions, but how could I find upgraded aftermarket UCA's compatible with a not we'll know vehicle that you cant find prefabricated after market ones for it?

[@moderngunguy3666]

Also, what about the lower control arm? Do you need to do anything with that or we’re doing some thing with that at least help something?

[@moderngunguy3666]

So I seen another video that said you had to have more backspacing for aftermarket upper control arms? Is this true

[@dannygilmer]

I have stock control arms but have a 6” lift . Will control arms made for 2-4” lift help me ?

[@moderngunguy3666]

I need something for a 6 inch lift. My tires are getting all F’ed up.

[@garytheguru]

Do I need uca's on my tacoma with a 2 inch spacer lift?

[@user-xv4ds3xl9w]

I have a 2015 Nissan navara np 300 . Thailand built. I already have 2” lift . I was wanting to upgrade to a fulcrum 2” lift kit front and rear. Do they come with the recommended control arms?

[@FulcrumSuspensions1976]

Hi there! On our website, when selecting your lift kit options you'll be presented with if you want to get the Upper Control Arms in the kit or not. The arms shown will suit the 2 inch lift kit and would be the ones we recommend.

[@kevandthekidsadventures4839]

PLEASE CAN YOU HELP ME I have a ford ranger 2015 with a 35 mil strut spacer if I put these 8:09 upper arms on will it lift up further I’ve asked the retailer an they don’t know Thanks Kevin

[@FulcrumSuspensions1976]

Hi Kevin, The Upper Control arms won't lift the vehicle at all just simply change the wheel alignment specs and allow give greater clearances between suspension components its next to such as the strut and springs. The Upper control arms at 8:09 (Left side black UCA's) are the factory upper control arms and so will already be on the vehicle if you haven't changed them to aftermarket ones. The middle one on the table is the best for most people as it fixes your alignment after a 2 inch lift and provides that clearance to the strut like mentioned before. Are you looking for more height on your current setup or just wanting to confirm the upper arms won't lift the vehicle up further?

[@EricSmith-mx7ol]

I had a 2.5” lift (just spacers and shackles) installed on my 2024 Nissan Frontier SV 4x4. The upper control arms are hitting the top of the strut tower/bucket thus only allowing 2” drop of suspension. How can I know if custom Upper control arms will solve the problem? Also, is it possible that custom upper control arms will allow too much drop of the suspension?

[@Demitri7]

Yes or an extended upper ball joint

[@mrgmrg9375]

Hey if i ger a 2 inch body lift and a 3 inch suspension lift , which products should i chose thanks

[@FulcrumSuspensions1976]

We'd recommend looking for Upper Control Arms that suit 3 inch suspension lifts like the adjustable ball joint arms shown in this video!

[@reddog4x4Matt]

Some of this is accurate. The N70 they've used needs UCAs with 33" tyres mainly because of the offset they've used. You can see the rims are either 0 offset or very close to it. The factory spec rims are positive offset. This particular car with those rims and tyres really needs fully adjustable UCAs as the control arm mounting is raked to the rear on the hilux, i.e. the front mount is noticeable higher than the rear, pushing the entire tyre backwards in the wheel arch and usually results in the mudflap fouling the tyre a lot. Unless you are changing tyre size to 33" (illegal in most states with a 2" lift unless engineered,) the majority of IFS 4wds can be aligned correctly without upper control arms. So it's really about clearance of the strut and aesthetically pleasing the driver in a lot of cases.

[@FulcrumSuspensions1976]

While what you're saying isn't incorrect, clearance is a major factor for getting Upper Control Arms especially if you intend to use the vehicle offroad, so while you might be able to align a vehicle with a 2 inch lift back to some what of an okay alignment without the aftermarket UCA's and running standard sized tyres, you won't achieve full droop and can damage the factory UCA and/or the spring/strut due to fouling. Our in house engineering team found that a large majority of IFS vehicles have this clearance issue and is part of why Fulcrum will always recommend UCA's when lifting an IFS vehicle, plus the added benefit of being able to correctly give a specialist alignment without restriction of lost caster/camber due to the lift.

[@jeremywayne6361]

You're spreading misinformation, mate. I worked in a tyre shop, performing W/A's on lifted 4WDs for many years, and I can confirm without question that numerous models simply do not align correctly without extended upper control arms. Claiming that it's merely about clearance and aesthetics is laughable.

[@lindseyrobinson4986]

@@jeremywayne6361 Same, over ten years experience. It's not even numerous, it's nearly all IFS utes. While you could probably get most into a decent enough spec at a two inch lift to not absolutely chew tyres, they'll always feel like they have the steering and handling of a 70's pick up.

[@speterbilt]

Looks like a truck instead of a car. 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@PeterKnagge]

Spot the Yank!!😂 That's not a truck, it's a utility (ute) or a 4wd... "Car" is short for carriage aka "horseless carriage" so technically everything is a car, mate! 🤣

[@Silverfox1982]

@@PeterKnaggethe first truck in America was the Ford TT in 1917. It was called a truck. Australia coined the word “Ute” in 1930. So…”truck” was used 13 years before “ute”. Crikey!!!

[@PeterKnagge]

@@Silverfox1982 You entirely missed the point. LITERALLY NO ONE CARES, AMERICA! Who elected America rulers of the world & the English language?? 🤔 You're wrong anyway, a "truck" is something big like a Mack/Kenworth/Peterbilt, the vehicle in the video is a "4WD", "car", or "ute". As per usual America can't do anything properly & has to overcompensate & self-validate their egos. Hasn't America ruined everything on the planet enough??

[@danielg.1707]

Why call a truck a car? Heh...

[@ggbogo935]

I run stock size tyres on a n80 hilux with a 2inch lift are UCA's necessary?

[@FulcrumSuspensions1976]

It really does depend on what your alignment is looking like. If an alignment tech says your caster or camber can't be adjusted correctly than you'll need one but if they can get good alignment specs with the factory UCA then you'll be fine.