Suzuki 9.9hp/20hp problem fixed - Fuel stabilizer issue part 2

[@apackwestbound5946]

Exceptionally well filmed, thank you! Many outboards have black/dark colors on the engines themselves, and many outboard videos are filmed inside or under shade where there just is not enough light or color/shade contrast to see clearly the various pieces involved in whatever they are trying to demonstrate. You expertly avoided all of that-thank you again for such a superior demonstration and educational video.

[@Dakimis]

My DF15A stalled after 5mins of running. I changed the plugs, impeller, oil. No help. Last thing I changed was the fuel filter. That was it! Just my two cent worth of advice.

[@falconfilmss]

how did you change the fuel filter? Any explain video? Thanks!!

[@kpjsportsmaster]

Yes how did you change the fuel filter??

[@Dakimis]

@@kpjsportsmaster The fuel filter was NOT the problem. The motor was overheating which caused the motor to go into idle mode. This is a safeguard to prevent serious damage. After the motor cooled down it would work normally for a couple of minutes until it overheated again. I finally fixed it by removing the engine head and manually removing salt deposits that were completely blocking the water passages. I tried to flush it out with Barnacle Buster first but it was too hard packed. These small motors are susceptible to clogging and you have to flush it out really good with Salt Away after each use in salt water. The mechanic that was working on it said that was the last resort but said it would cost more than the motor was worth. So I did it myself.

[@diegomendiviltv]

I never use old fuel E10 is garbage after a month starts to degrade. Evertime I use my boat I out fresh 91 octane chevron with seafoam. I only have a 3 gallon tank after I come home the remaining fuel I dump it in my truck. Great content bro, Greetings from Arizona 😎🤙🏻🙌🏻

[@rudytamayo2646]

What's up bro?!! En donde volteo te encuentro mendigo hahaha j/k.. good seeing you man 💪💪💪🙋‍♂️ p.s. I have the same lil outboard a 20hp Suzuki.. awesome lil motor.. This is Janet's brother btw 😅

[@gregdettling3600]

I have a 2016 Suzuki 20 HP. A couple of years ago it wouldn’t even start so I took it to the dealer, it was determined a bad spark plug. They replaced both and then it was back to normal.

[@alansmith2203]

LaingEj, can't tell you how much i appreciate al the inside dope. I will put my 10 hp on the trimaran net week and learn how it powers the boat (30 foot trimaran)....then i will do the 20 hp, minus restrictor, trick and see how that goes.....good trouble shooting guide there

[@alfredojohannes6827]

Yeah went all through his series. These motors are great as long as you have pure unadulterated fuel. Period!!!! The only Achilles heel

[@kevinhannessen6559]

Wauw, my Outboard motor has just the same problem as the motor was running in the beginning. Thanks for the video!!

[@joetousignant9130]

Just bought a 9.9B, thank you for the videos

[@mbpaintballa]

me too! these things are super good on fuel

[@nebraskaman8247]

It’s funny how you can check resistance of electrical components, and they read good, although they are bad. Run into stuff like that all the time at work. Especially with ignition systems.

[@Dakimis]

The fuel filter was NOT the problem. My motor was overheating which caused the motor to go into idle (stalling) mode. This is a built in safeguard to prevent serious damage. After the motor cooled down it would work normally for a couple of minutes until it overheated again. I finally fixed it by removing the engine head and manually removing salt deposits that were completely blocking the water passages after the thermostat. I tried to flush it out with Barnacle Buster first but it was too hard packed. These small motors are susceptible to clogging and you have to flush it out really good with Salt Away after each use in salt water. The mechanic that was working on it said that removing the engine was the last resort and said it would cost more than the motor was worth. So I did it myself. No overheating, no stalling.

[@kpjsportsmaster]

Could you do a video on how to change the fuel filter please🙏🏼

[@frappy815]

My name is Josh and this is my wifes account, So I have a 2021 9.9 and have been going through all kinds of problems. Mostly it wanting to die on me. kept thinking it is a fuel problem or fuel pump issue. tested fuel pump and it works and injectors are clean and working. But i did a tune up on it and changed spark plugs MR6K-9. Those are the plugs that came with it and what came in tune up kit. So i was checking gap from the manual and noticed the manual says to use NGK CPR6EA-9 plugs. I happened to have a set from my 6HP suzuki outboard so i just tried them. It has literally solved the dying issue and my motor sounds so good. My question is why really? Im umsure what to do now?

[@omieyouknowme]

Sorry to see u went thru all this for plugs. Better to fix on land than be stuck out on water.

[@laingej]

I never imagined it would damage the plugs But they are very delicate come to find out.

[@omieyouknowme]

@@laingej still does not make sense, I use stabil all the time for winter storage for lawn mower and snow blower in summer. For outboard, I have used it in pure form then drained it. Started up next season coughing and missing but clears up.

[@laingej]

@@omieyouknowmehave you used techron marine brand? I google searched it found other people saying it mess up spark plugs in their motorcycles. I used it 3 times..1st nothing, 2nd trip noticed something weird vibrations at 3k rpm.. 3rd trip out stalling and misfiring. But i have also found here on youtube..people with my same outboard with bad spark plugs as low as 60 hrs so maybe these ngk mr6k plugs just suck or i dont know the fuel system being lean burn the spark is very weak wont burn the stabil

[@omieyouknowme]

@@laingej no never used techron, I use the red stabil for storage and sea foam for cleaning out fuel system. I am not really sure what lean burn is, but spark is a spark regardless of fuel being burned. Is the plug a standard copper or platinum? Have you done a spark gap check see if the coil is going out? If the air mixture is leaned out the plugs will be white, if to rich they will be brown wet. Medium gray is a good sign. What rpm do you run? I try to make sure I can hit at least 5800-6000 rpm, sacrifice speed for rpm so I run smaller props.

[@Moondog9322]

I add StarTron and YamaLube Ring Free to my ethanol free fuel tank on my boat. So far, so good. Yamaha F90 and Suzuki 9.9 .

[@laingej]

What year is your 9.9?

[@Moondog9322]

@@laingej It's a 2020. Got it last year, in part because of your video review of it. I got electric start and tilt. Love it!

[@CUBICHI1985]

@@Moondog9322 if you dont mind me asking- how much did your run you? Looking to get a 2019 with both electric start and tilt/trim for about 1300-1400.. is that a good price?

[@Moondog9322]

@@CUBICHI1985 That's a great price if it's in good condition. I ordered mine from Suzuiki Outboard Team and it was $2645 plus tax.

[@CUBICHI1985]

@@Moondog9322 its brand new, but I'm not entirely sure about the seller.. Rezeki Marine (in Jakarta, Indonesia I think). Looks legit but I'm a bit skeptical.. It's $1455 plus shipping ($250 for sea freight or $630 for air freight).

[@pmgear]

Thanks for the many excellent videos, where did you get the software and what type of cable are you using to connect?

[@joeyjoe8892]

Did you ever have any Smokey starts with the fuel stabilizer because I had the same issue when I had to change my plugs out but I'm still getting Smokey first starts and I also can smell a little Fuel and see a rainbow in the water around the exhaust a little tiny bit of a rainbow so it's also something to do with the fuel

[@yonyrivas3950]

Gracias amigo por sus vídeos

[@laingej]

De nada 😃

[@tikolamb2718]

Regarding fuel, If possible, buy pure gasoline that doesn’t have any ethanol. Check with local fuel wholesalers. They sell to the general public sometimes. That’s where I buy it. Good luck to ya

[@laingej]

Thanks dont have a gas statione near me that sells gas without ethanol.. but i just dont save any gas anymore. Always pump fresh fuel when i take it out.. the left over fuel i put it in my trucks tank.

[@vikingsmb]

@@laingej I take it you are UK based mate, if so, Esso supreme unleaded (super) is zero ethanol and i find outboards like it.

[@andik859]

​@@vikingsmb ja das Ethanol ist nicht gut für den Motor. Es greift das Alu an und ist für die Einspritzanlage schlecht. Altes Benzin funktioniert auch in neuen Stihl Kettensägen nicht. Die heutigen Motoren mögen alten Sprit nicht und der ist heute schon nach 2 Monaten schlecht. Ich verwende für Motoren immer frisches Benzin und den Rest kippe ich ins Auto.

[@vikingsmb]

English pls, i dont speak german

[@vikingsmb]

English pls, i dont speak german

[@caliisbtk]

Hey I have a Suzuki 20dfA. When I hook it up and push the start button it clicks once. And doesn’t start. What does that mean? Thanks.

[@DavidYarber]

Like so many others here, I am buying a Suzuki 9.9. I've learned a ton from your videos. Can you share what your engine dolly is and where it can be purchased? Thanks.

[@SaltWaterBassTv]

Any carb clean tips? Also i have 9.9 dfa not finding much info

[@СергейБогомолов-й9ы]

Hello, I'm from Russia! I have the same motor. Tell me, why did the lamp light up without blinking after ten minutes of running? I changed the oil and filter before preservation for the winter.

[@NS-yu6yf]

what is the plug beside the blue plug that is capped and not plugged into anything?

[@michalrusewicz2823]

Separator wody spuść benzynę i przepompować gruszką aż zacznie lecieć czysta benzyna

[@gregt4323]

Lucas fuel injector cleaner ran through my motor with no problems.

[@lowerriverrods6204]

Were you getting any diagnostic codes when this was happening? Any blinking of the red light?

[@outandaboutwithrobnyc]

How much stabilizer do you use in a 3 gallon tank. I oz takes care of 10 gallon tank.

[@tim9510]

I have the 15hp EFI and it’s stumbling and cutting off at idle. I will change the plugs. I can’t help but think there has to be a recall on these engines - no way a new engine with 10 hours should do this.

[@tlteal]

Do you have any thoughts? Was it just the plugs and replacing them did the trick?

[@golfish8589]

What was the fix?

[@falconfilmss]

same issue

[@jrminate]

I know these are all old comments, but for future people that might see this later on. Usually the only things that go wrong with the smaller suzuki's are simple Fuel filters clogged or just needs new spark plugs. The low pressure and high pressure filters are around $20 each or less. It is so easy to work on the small suzuki outboards. I have a df25A with low hours as well and it was ran with approx 10 hours on it, then I put it in storage for 3 years. It was transported as I moved and was in a rush to get out of the house we sold. I advise if you have to transport the outboard on its side for any reason, to drain the engine oil out first. If you don't drain it out and lay it on its side, the oil can work its way to the air filter and leak out. It can work its way in the intake and you will need to take the spark plugs out to be able to turn it over and get all the oil out of the cylinders. This can also foul out the plugs if you try to reuse those spark plugs. This can also get oil in your fuel lines, etc which can cause issues with the filters and such. So, just keep that in mind, if you have to transport the engine on its side I would just drain the engine oil out, it can save a lot of headaches. You will have some people say you can transport them on one side, technically yes you can on the side the manufacturer suggests. However I suggest draining the oil / gas out first regardless as you never know how rough the transport is going to be. The smaller suzuki outboards are just about bombproof if you keep up with maintenance.

[@Pokemonballers87]

Where did you get the diagnosis tool?

[@vikingsmb]

make sure you wear your kill cord when you are out on the water buddy

[@berkemahmutoglu]

How can I connect to my 9.9 manual starter model? There is a problem with electric connection, I need help. I need to power the ecu, how can I?

[@thedogsailor]

What does the ecm add to opening up the intake besides upping the rev limiter? I'm running mine on a 33' catamaran so displacement hull not planing. I put a 16mm hole in my restrictor plate. It pulled 5500 rpm before with a 5" prop and now pulls about the same with a 7" prop. Will the 20hp ecm help lower speed torque which is what I'm after. Thank you, your videos have been very helpful.

[@laingej]

Yes get a 20hp ecm.. dont drill the restrictor any bigger.. or you will redline at 5700 rpm. With the 20hp ecm tou will be able to remove the restrictor completely will get more torque and you can go higher prop pitch maybe a 9” for your application good luck

[@thedogsailor]

@@laingej Thanks, two things though. I don't want to run it much passed 5000rpm, too noisy. It's a big, slow catamaran so I'm looking for midrange torque. Unless I re-hub a different prop, the 10" diameter, 7" pitch, square tip, 4 blade, hi thrust prop is all they offer. It is quiet different than a plaining boat prop. I need the reserve as well for the times I'm forced to motor into waves and 20 kt winds. Does the 20hp ecm change any mapping other than rev limit?

[@laingej]

@@thedogsailor yes just get a bigger pitch propif you rev pass 5000 or get a 4 blade prop that will be best for you for mid range. Rpm is lower and have more trust

[@thedogsailor]

@@laingej I appreciate your videos and replies but I still don't know if the 20hp ecm will make any difference for my boat? I already have the 7", 4 blade, hi-thrust prop and in flat, calm water that prop with 16mm hole in the restrictor, full throttle does 5500 rpm, which is great. For everyone fallowing this, we're going out for a few days so I'll post how this works, real world. It seems an awesome motor, especially for the price and should work well on a pontoon boat, too.

[@laingej]

@thedogsailor i understand just keep an eye on it ..it could run lean with a 16mm hole in the restrictor..im not sure yet if the 9.9 ecm can compensate fuel for the extra air. I drilled my restrictor center hole 8mm max to be safe. With the 20hp ecu you can remove the restrictor completely and you will double the power.. you can still keep it at 5000 rpm limit you like with a bigger prop and it will get a faster top speed because the pitch is greater. Im yet to test and compare the fuel amounts injected by the two ecm’s maybe the 9.9 can match the 20hp fuel ? I dont know will find out

[@DeepBlueChannelCom]

saludos,,,pregunta estas usando gasolina con ethanol

[@laingej]

No, era premium 93 pero vieja que tenia guardada como 2 meses..la que me sobraba de los viajes la guardaba y le puse stabilizer techron marine pa que durara pero jodio los sparks ahora la que me sobre se la hecho al truck ya no guardo mas gas asi le pongo gas bueno siempre al suzuki

[@DeepBlueChannelCom]

@@laingej yo a mi bote le hecho sin ethanol me duele pagar mas pero que voy a hacer la gasolina sin etanol la puedes dejar hasta 6 meses guardada que no tiene problema paga un poquito mas por el gas y el motor te va a agradecer👍👍👍👍👍

[@CUBICHI1985]

Donde se consigue gasolina sin ethanol..? Donde vivo, no he visto q la vendan, vivo en Arizona. Muchas gracias de antemano 🙋‍♂️🤙

[@DeepBlueChannelCom]

@@CUBICHI1985 yo vivo en miami y aqui hay muchas gasolinera con gas sin ethanol

[@laingej]

@@CUBICHI1985 si usas iphone hay una app que se llama “Pure Gas” bajala alli te muestras las gasolineras que venden ethanol free

[@bosto1215]

I just got the same motor and when I rev mine up in neutral it sputters and some rev fully any thoughts

[@waynesworld1able]

hi buddy can you tell me where you got your program for laptop please and also where can i get high pressure fuel pump please

[@DERAUSLEGERGERMANY]

Hey friend, thank you for your videos. I bought the diagnostic suzuki tool and now want to flash an ecu of 15hp to 20hp... do you know how this work? Maybe you could help me a little bit? Thank you buddy. Best regards from Berlin, Germany. Dudi =)

[@bigfishbrau]

where did you get that motor stand if ya dont mind me asking..

[@nathanbruneau1822]

anyone know the order of the plug wires? I may have mine backwards. ran the short from the "aft" to the bottom and the long one from the "fore" to the top... link to wire route appreciated!

[@jefriledder1464]

My suzuki Df15 (old model), could not start. One month ago i've replace the carburator and everything normal. Buat after not use about 3 weeks, could not starter. Fire on spark plug is good, may be fuel problem, but the carburator is new.. please give advice

[@laingej]

Is the fuel fresh and clean? Yeah i would look into a fuel/ fuel delivery issue if you have spark.

[@adamdonofrio2990]

I recently acquired one of these little motors, and I’ve watched all your videos and you’ve taught me a ton but I have a question for you. Have you ever found fuel in your oil on that motor. I only ask because after the break-in. First oil change at 20 hours I found fuel in my oil. Not a ton but enough to where you could tell that it was definitely fuel. Thank you in advance.

[@chipbyrne]

Probably blow by happening because everything wasn't worn together yet

[@adamdonofrio2990]

I’ll keep an eye on it. I plan on changing the oil again in a few months and I will definitely let you know. Love the motor though, and would one day like to do the conversion up to 20 hp. Thanks for your thoughts.

[@Mascotal]

I would stop using the stabilizer, and just use good quality fuel to run it. Then in the fall drain the gas and run it with engineered fuel before storage.

[@danielpomeroy]

Never use 10% or more ethanol gas in any outboard. Read your owners manual. Ethanol is especially bad for outboards because of the long storage periods. ( Ethanol absorbs water vapor from the atmosphere )

[@dustin9035]

Gone are the days where you could tear apart a carburetor and it runs new again in a half hour.

[@orlandoduran7740]

yamaha 9.9 and smaller like my 6hp yamaha is carburated, same with the merc 9.9 and smaller

[@alvarojimenez2684]

Buenas tardes tengo un 20 hp , 4 tiempos ;suzuki puedo adaptarle el TACH/hour¿ vivo en Bogota Colombia

[@Meatdaddy58]

My dealer I bought my 2020 4stroke from said to not put fuel stabilizer in my fuel. He said if I did, it would be in the shop before too long

[@ekspresmotor8950]

hello where did you find the laptop bag thanks

[@laingej]

The laptop its my wifes 😂 the suzuki program you can buy it online on ebay

[@ekspresmotor8950]

@@laingej thanks

[@nathan5081]

The bore is different on the 20hp vs 9.9hp (60.4 vs 57.9mm). Is it running rich causing the spark plugs to foul?

[@patete163]

BORE AND STROKE 60.4 x 57 mm (2.38 x 2.24 inches) 327 cc (20.0 cubic inches) 0n 9.9, 15, and 20HP

[@cfpno156]

Hola, tengo un DF20A y el sensor me marca falla. La secuencia es 2 -1 como puedo resetear y que me esta indicando? muchas gracias

[@laingej]

Hola tienes el programa o estas viendo la luz? Que hace el motor?

[@cfpno156]

@@laingej hola, solo lo enciendo y veo la luz.

[@cfpno156]

@@laingej el motor enciende correctamente y permanece en marcha.. solo que al acelerar en neutro corta la corriente.. pero en marcha adelante funciona normal.

[@laingej]

@@cfpno156 en neutro no debes acelerar mas de 2500-3000 rpm revoluciones tiene un rev limiter programado asi.

[@cfpno156]

@@laingej gracias. Me podrias decir que falla puede ser la luz enciende 2 - 1 (esto indica la luz del sensor)

[@martyhonda6983]

Are the 20 hp spark plugs different from the 9.9 hp they should be , change the fuel filter

[@laingej]

Same sparks.. havent had any issues after that. Clean fresh fuel everytime 👍

[@Oscar-og3ep]

Hola en mi motor Suzuki de 15 caballos antes parpadeaba una luz roja y ahora no parpadea ha que puede ser debido? Aceite tiene y tefrigera Bien

[@falconfilmss]

esa luz de parpadeo indica que hay que hacerle el mantenimiento al motor, si dejo de parpadear es que ya le hicieron el mantenimiento dude aceite y todo.

[@dustinclark8186]

How much is that bore scope

[@laingej]

Was like 500 ten years ago lol

[@KrishnamurthyS-v7j]

Iamthroutil, the20hbengine, itsnotpickuping. Andredlightflucuation. What do, domesir

[@cliffbz2301]

Subscribed brother, just picked up my DF20ATH yesterday, haven't even started her up yet.

[@laingej]

Awesome! You gona love it 👍

[@JavixseeN]

vivo en miami tengo este motor con un Inflable y q va a cada 3 min rev limiter como a los 3000 rpm un cuarto de aceleracion no se q pasa

[@canadianfisherman243]

im doing the same upgrade to my suzuki right now.do you think its a legit longterm upgrade?

[@laingej]

A legit 20hp. only the 9.9 sticker on the cowl and the serial number is the difference

[@r.j.vanstormbroek9438]

I can not believe that the fuel stabiliser is the cose of this problems. I use starbrite fuel stabiliser for years now and had never problems.

[@laingej]

@@r.j.vanstormbroek9438 what outboard/year? You talking about a different brand stabilizer...Well dont try techron marine on the 20hp lean burn EFI

[@r.j.vanstormbroek9438]

@@laingej 2012 Suzuki 20hp. I have also a 175hp Suzuki of 2016. No problems with Starbrite fuel stabiliser.

[@laingej]

@@r.j.vanstormbroek9438 could be because yours is the older model carburated? . Mine 2020 lean burn electronic fuel injected..im afraid to try any other stabilizer.. or maybe these sparks plugs just suck! But anyways im going to use fresh fuel from now on. Not taking chances

[@joeyjoe8892]

Have the same engine does anybody know why once in awhile it smokes on first startup if it's been sitting longer than a week is it normal for it to blow a Little Smoke On First Start If been sitting??? And I'm talkin about a brand new engine just gave it its first oil change

[@robertsatoer4668]

Never had a smokey start on mine (df15 2021). Did you do the break in period? :S

[@joeyjoe8892]

@@robertsatoer4668 yes I did and I still don't even get on it

[@falconfilmss]

same issue on my df15AS, black smoke on one week without using it

[@yonyrivas3950]

No dude en hacer más videos

[@randyking5404]

I have had my 9.9 for a couple years now and have had nothing but problems, from the cavitation and wrong prop at first and then the tilt pump went bad and then this spring the fuel pump and now just got towed back to my pier because it quit while out on the lake and is acting like it did when the fuel pump went bad , it has been worked on so much the engine cover is so loose it rattles bad and is noisy as hell . I would not buy another and if you are looking at buying one good luck because they are junk

[@countryfriedent]

Suzuki, what year is it? Thanks for the info

[@hakankalakar3719]

Problem fuel fılter whast

[@theelevatedangler862]

I think im dealing with some of the same issues with my df25a tiller. Very informative!!! 👌🏽 (New sub)

[@laingej]

Awesome. Happy to help

[@hakankalakar3719]

Thanks

[@jaykaltimadventure4994]

Mantap sama kayak JAY KALTIM SPEEDBOAT ❤️❤️❤️

[@christatt6379]

These motors are clearly JUNK. Same issues. Brand new motor doesnt run. Absolutely unacceptable! Garbage!

[@vikingsmb]

they are not junk, its due to the ethanol in the fuel due to the stupid green brigade forcing us to put more rubbish in fuel

[@dnd5742]

Completely agree! I have the same problem on a newer 40hp zuki motor.

[@supra2702]

BAD FUEL QUALITY !!!!

[@berkemahmutoglu]

How can I connect to my 9.9 manual starter model? There is a problem with electric connection, I need help. I need to power the ecu, how can I?