Suzuki Intruder 1400cc Starting Problems

Starting issues with Suzuki Intruder 1400

[@leegilbreath8477]

That music is annoying as HELL

[@chrisederer8625]

I agree, but after a while I started to listen to the lyrics, then it became much more entertaining and amusing. I've watched this viddy off and on for years. I ended up tossing the entire OEM ignition system for Dynatek parts.

[@RattlerSnake]

@@chrisederer8625 Maybe i should save myself some trouble and do the same lol

[@battler544]

The part that you bypassed is the decompression control unit. you spliced the exciter wire for both the decompression solenoid, and the starter solenoid, since the same wire (green and yellow) excites both. The problem with this is that the decompression system wont work now. Over time this will ruin the starter motor bendix gear, which will be an expensive repair. I recommend reconnecting the green and yellow wire, but splice the green and yellow wire with the black and yellow wire as well, this should excite the timer for the decomp system. Make sure both cables are slack at state of rest. If the bike persists in backfiring and popping lift the tank, get someone to hold it, start the bike, and spray starter fluid directly onto the intake rubbers if the engine revs pick up, you have a cracked rubber. Over time these fuel pumps pump at reduced pressure due to wear, and they normally give fair warning before they go, get a mechanic to check this, but first replace plugs. These carbs have stainless components, and 'carbing up" is not an issue with them, as with brass carbs. They are difficult to remove, so try to avoid it. Check the tank siv before making this call

[@shovelhead4558]

Your comment makes a lot of sense thanks .

[@Lordbaccus]

the PROBLEM was I was ONLY getting 9v to the Solenoid from that box under the seat = there was 13.7v going into it when I hit the starter switch / 9v to the starter motor was causing it to Drag drawing more amperage and even burnt off the Pos+ cable connecting to the starter - by BYPASSING that box under the seat I was getting 13.7v to the SOl & Starter!!! Problem SOLVED

[@austinosborne5020]

Wouldn't replace that part also fix said problem without creating more🤔🤔🤣🤣​@@Lordbaccus

[@Lordbaccus]

the Suzuki dealer will sell me the part @ $600.oo & wants $600.oo to install it or I can install it with NO WARRANTY@@austinosborne5020

[@battler544]

You will have to buy the part, as doing what I suggested also is not advisable, as the decompression solenoid will keep the exhaust valves open, as long as you are pressing the starter button. By having no decompression system you risk damaging your starter gear mesh. Some of these gears are inside the engine, and would require an engine split. The decompression system should be checked at every oil change to make sure it's working. If it's still popping, and backfiring, bypass the fuel pump relay, as these will work intermittently before finally packing up. Mine went at 70000 km, and I could feel intermittent surging for about 12000 km before the backfiring, and popping got really bad the one day, as well as the surging, and that is when the bike just stopped running, and would not start due to the relay. They also wanted a hell of a price for it, so I bypassed it, unfortunately you can't do that with the decompression control unit.

[@ralphpelkey3225]

my bike was backfiring ,poping while shifting gears. I rear this and cut the two wires like it said tied them together ...TOOK CARE OF EVERYTHING THANK U SO VERY MUCH

[@tcook6333]

Ralph Pelkey The only reason your bike would be backfiring while shifting gears is because of a lean or Rich issue. These wires would have no effect on that.

[@caseyc3787]

You Sir are the best. My bike said I was not going to start anymore at all. You can mash the start button all you want but I won't do it. Now thanks to you easy and very quick starts. Again thank you!

[@RattlerSnake]

Hey bud, was it cranking? My 96 1400 is having trouble even with starter fluid. I think i may try this. Just want to make sure its not another issue.

[@frangiew9076]

How the heck we are supposed to hear this video with all the noise in the back ground, which I think you think is Music ?

[@miltstone2]

Had almost same problem, bike starter when it was cold let it warm up after riding for a little bit then it wouldn't start, did the same fix with the yellow black yellow green put them together works perfect every time. Awesome job brother!!

[@wcowin1]

Baccus, I have been researching this a lot over the past couple of days and all the parts lists that I have looked at are indicating that the part that you bypassed is actually the decompression control unit, not the ignition starter control. Your thoughts are appreciated.

[@steveschwenke9636]

Exactly what I see also.

[@JavierRodriguez-sh2gq]

Thank you for the advise, Will try this weekend with My 2000:Intruder 1400!!!!

[@handerson3202]

Good information, start problems take a toll on all of us that do our own fixes. Thanks

[@VTwin4Christ]

Hey brother... During your troubleshoting... Did you learn more about the Compression Release Control Unit??? I have wrenched on a load of bikes and I can not stand to work on the vs1400 (uggg)... Don't know why, I just don't like it. Too much stuff to take off I guess. Anyway... Mine has a smoke issue out of the rear jugg during iddle and rough starting. Pilot screw on rear jug has almost no effect.. I have cleaned, re-cleaned and cleaned carbs again. I am thinking it may be a compress release issue if I can learn more about what the does. Please share your knowledge if you can. thanks!

[@battler544]

Make sure when you tighten the tank down, you are not pinching the fuel pipes, as they run between the frame and base of the tank quite tightly, and also read my comment on this video.

[@charleslankford6922]

This shortcut works perfect!! My output voltage from the decompression relay was low to my stater solenoid. I did the same thing and it works great.

[@jeffreybrill4574]

Cheers mate, the beasty swings into motion straight away just as you said!

[@BetoPrestes]

Lord, Please explain step by step how regular cable pressure, are the two cylinders or only on the front?

[@arxatea7783]

I have a problem with mine, first I noticed the gas pump wasn’t making any noice when I turned the engine on, later I was having problem starting it them only one carburetor seems to be working, pump relay or pump?

[@magicbbman32]

Does a 2004 Suzuki Intuder LC 1500 have the same ignition modual?

[@bmxican0018]

hey was your bike cranking at all. my won't even crank all the switches have power, every thing looks good, but won't crank at all. not even a click, just wondering if yours was the same deal?

[@davidpritchett5974]

Is that the normal sound of the engine.. Mine sounds just like it and I think it is coming apart..all that knocking and whirriing..

[@jamiegray4063]

lord Baccus.. I have same bike and am having problem with it not firing so I decided to try your truck with splicing wires together. well I found the right wires but I noticed there was no ignition control module at all. just the wire harness . but I noticed there is a ignition rev limiter and I'm thinking this replaced the reg module. do you know anything about this rev limiter?

[@ronnyg.160]

Hay schönes Video und gut erklärt! Grüße aus Deutschland 🤟

[@geraldrivest1442]

Very informative video great troubleshooting . Suggest don't play any music over the voice instructions. Difficult to hear information and quit annoying.

[@OldManTupX]

How has this stood up over time? Any further complications?

[@trevonwalker8022]

Good question

[@notnecessary7730]

A couple months after doing this bypass "OF THE DECOMPRESS" unit, it fried the starter, fried the fuel pump, shorted the igniter and burnt out the start relay. Also caused heavy cylinder wear. You can do this in a pinch just to get off the road but long term destroys the bike!!!

[@smokingcrackforfun]

Were you also getting backfiring issues as well?

[@milomiers6533]

Hell yea nice video. not sure but my 1400 would stall at stop lights. now she runs great Thank you!!!

[@BetoPrestes]

hi friend, Looking pressure cable image that is in your video backwards would be left?

[@darrellsimpson872]

ive had the same problem. replaced battery and solenoid and still long, delayed, weak start. turns out its the CDI. you can find the OE ones for just as much as the adjustable performance ones. you can adjust timing as well.

[@StanWilhite]

My 04 vs 1400 intruder started popping and backfiring about 7-8 mos ago and has now gotten so bad it's constant (on the rear cyl). The bike sounds like it's running waay lean on the back cylinder but after reading this I'm not so sure it's a fuel problem. I can't ride it like this and I need some sound advice before I begin taking the rear carb off (since that looks like a pretty big job to do unless you're certain that's your problem). I should also add that I'm 62 yrs old and have severe spinal problems so it's extra tough to get to all of the places you need to remove the carb. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Stan in N AL

[@williamjeffery6444]

Stan Wilhite I've been battling a2001 with fucking carb problems. Did every trick I could find and now the new rebuilds I ought are flooding out. I'm selling the bike for parts and buying a Harley. These suzukis suck. Always have? Gong to Harley, or Honda.

[@UNICRON_1976]

Good afternoon. Will this diy fix work on a 1999 vl1500? Im having the same problem. Please help. I hate not being able to ride my bike.

[@smokingcrackforfun]

Is that Buck 65 for the music?

[@sandalanalyst]

kind of curious also.. have same well similar bike dont know what year yours is but i think im having a battery problem which i'll replace this week but i might need to look into this.. how is it holding up?

[@lrdchris]

My '03 VS1400 just gave me a single click when I go to start it right now. The battery is less than a year old and can hold a charge so I know it's not that. I'm hoping it is only the solenoid for a cheap fix. Wondering if you've encountered this problem at all?

[@devinorourke141]

Chris Rollin did getting a new solenoid fix your problem? I’m having the same issue right now. Just bought a new battery and still having the clicking sound. I can jump the bike and it starts but as soon as I turn it off after running for a while still won’t start up just a clicking noise.

[@MxRyder19]

​@@devinorourke141 hi , my brothers bike doing same..... Did you solve this ? Thanks

[@syedshakeelghaboos5644]

Why not using a 12 volt relay???

[@wcowin1]

Lord Baccus, I have been having a very similar problem with my Intruder. It is a 1996 1400. In addition to turning over slow, if I manage to actually get it started, once I turn it off, many times it will not restart and I get a clicking sound when pressing the start button, or it will attempt to turn over slowly and then the clicking sound. Also, the last time I had it out on the road, it bogged down (lost power as I accelerated), and died. I got the clicking sound when I tried to restart it. After several minutes on the side of the road, It started back up and I was able to get home with it. Could all of this be symptoms of the same problem?

[@wcowin1]

It wound up being the voltage regulator/rectifier. All fixed up now and purring like a kitten!!

[@nicobreet4452]

good day. just a question, what is the sequence on the decompression solenoid? is it still pulling it in or is that function of the control unit bypassed completely. and in normal case would the solenoid pull in once only as you pressed the starter button or does it pull, release and pull until the bike starts or you let go of the starter button thank you

[@battler544]

The decompression control unit has two timers built into it. The first timer activates the decompression system, and then the second timer activates the starter solenoid. If you remember the old DR 500 Suzuki, it had a lever which you pulled first then kicked it, making it easy to kick over. Ive actually seen kick start shafts snapped because of no decompression, and it will definitely cause wear on the casing, and the seal to leak. My repair is not advisable as a long term solution, but as a "get by" until you can afford the decompression unit.

[@MrSmith-nh7dz]

Baccus, I wondered if you could help me. Thanks.

[@jacobressler9711]

Thank you so much for this video. Helped me find the problem. Laurence Nortje comments where correct in that this is the decomp control unit and as a result of bypassing it can lessen the life of the starter motor. however that is not an expensive repair as he stated. starter motors cost 40 bucks. The decomp control unit costs 100 bucks which should be replaced.

[@JorgePerez-il2fc]

I got a question for you sr. my bike is firing the left piston and the right it's completely completely cold. any idea what's the problem. maybe is an a stupid question. but is my first bike

[@joelangley5860]

I had this same issue not sure if you figured it out but my issue was a bad coil

[@StanWilhite]

Wondering if anyone knows for sure that the circuit can be bypassed w/no ill affects? It just worries why the thing is there in the first place if it really doesn't have to be.

[@notnecessary7730]

A couple months after doing this bypass "OF THE DECOMPRESS" unit, it fried the starter, fried the fuel pump, shorted the igniter and burnt out the start relay. Also caused heavy cylinder wear. You can do this in a pinch just to get off the road but long term destroys the bike!!!

[@SSeRpent13]

Just gota 01 with 24k on it an was working well for the first couple hundred then shut off all power while driving. Came to be fuses burning out right when i start up. What could be causing this?

[@YoTatuado]

Faaarrrkkkk dis music mate it is soooooooo cool lol and vid thanks for sharing much appreciated we use to do the old bikes with cdi and wire them straight up so we didn't need a battery lol you can still use the lights but they dim when the revs drop but wasn't an issue then lol I feel old now!

[@stevennicola2165]

Are the 800 intruders the same

[@scottrichardson8711]

Bro so when you tie the wires together you just wrap up the exposed wires with electrical tape, and that's it?

[@thebigdillimprov]

Scott Richardson Did you ever find out if it was just tying them off and not placing them back in the module? Can you post a pic? Thanks man!

[@Lordbaccus]

Yes

[@normanbuffett4642]

what is the function of a starter module?

[@garaa07]

hello,do u still have the bike?has the problm solved till now?

[@notnecessary7730]

No he doesn't, a couple months after doing this bypass "OF THE DECOMPRESS" unit, it fried the starter, fried the fuel pump, shorted the igniter and burnt out the start relay. Also caused heavy cylinder wear. You can do this in a pinch just to get off the road but long term destroys the bike!!!

[@juanmonserrate9448]

I need help with mine couse did the same thing and all I get is clicking from the ignition module all I get is just clicks

[@austintanner4174]

Hey so I'm having an issue with my 98 intruder 1400. I can hear it click at the starter relay and the fuel pump turns on, but the bike won't crank at all. Any ideas?

[@jesaug205]

Disconnect battery and place it at the side of your bike. Using startercables as links: Connect the negative pool from the battery to some exposed metal on your bike. Connect the positive from the top (positive pool) of your starter motor and gently tap the other end of the cable to the positive pool of the battery. If done correctly and nothing happens you have isolated that the problem is the startermotor

[@caseybailey7529]

What hardware store did you find the starter solenoid at?

[@Lordbaccus]

it was a True Value here on Watson Louisiana!!! 4 wheel ATVs use the same solenoid! so anywhere you can get 1 for an ATV

[@jpitts43086]

Location of starter solenoid never worked on my bike before and trying to troubleshoot it would really appreciate it.

[@ThePentadactyl]

less music - more shampoo will fix this, i guess

[@charleslankford6922]

What are the other colors hooked to that module??

[@Lordbaccus]

I do not know! but the 2 I used are the input & output of the VOLTAGE to the Solenoid = the resistor go's BAD and only lets approx 9v through causing the PROBLEM

[@charleslankford6922]

I spliced the yellow/green and yellow/black and it works fine. Thank you so much!!

[@InvictvsNox]

Damn, dude! This was legit. I've been having the same issue and will definitely be looking into this. Thanks so much for posting.

[@riaanschoeman2832]

1800 109 when driving and stop engine is turning but don't start must wait about 5 to 10 minutes then he start what could be the problem

[@am9505]

has anyone used this procedure? just curious about possible I'll effects.

[@geofberkel6787]

too bad about the music. i just couldnt get through this video.

[@CrazyMonkeyof1992]

+Geof Berkel You need more endurance Kemosabe! haha XD (It is distracting from the information. I chose to roll with it tho :)

[@ronsulik8345]

hey I have a 99 850 Marauder and then there's a big fat wire I guess it goes to positive there's two red ones there's a red and yellow and black and yellow and green and two black and white ones and then there's another plug that has just a red and green wire going to it the people I bought the bike from they cut all that off and I don't know how to hook it back together can anybody help me

[@kirkrayner1015]

Hey anyone out there know where I need to hook up the vacuum line to balance my carbs. I have a 1992 Suzuki Intruder VS 1400. Any insight would be great.

[@fredflintstone3956]

I have the same bike, and same need. I haven't found anything either

[@esoteric_Derek]

Wow, I hope this is what will fix mine. It's usually fine until the temp drops below 50 farenheit. Then it wants to just crank like its flooded or outta gas til the battery is about drained. But if I hook up the jumper cables, it starts instantly. Doesnt need any charge time. Anyway, it sounds just very similar to this both when fires right up, and when slow starting. 👍👍🍆 2 thumbs and a giant boner up, if this gets it. For now 🤞

[@Dan-vz9bm]

Would be better without music !!

[@scottrichardson8711]

Bro you're a genius!

[@josepeixoto3715]

gots muzac!!

[@mohamedkhattabi5352]

If just no music in the background

[@rocket625]

please stop that music

[@MizzLo-Lo]

Can you get rid of the crappy music and get to the problem of the motorcycle I started

[@oscarvm]

And all these suzuki problems are bullshit !!right pen !

[@tharikmtm3967]

Cdi...unite.. wear.laine

[@khrisa1945]

Please dump the music

[@Manup2day]

Can't hear shit with the music. Annoying.

[@alonzowilliams3845]

Too much music

[@scotbeverly1434]

Can't Har a word your saying

[@martremcheerfulful]

soundtrack and production fades, etc ruined the video

[@flannydinchum]

music ruined this video

[@stephaniecurtis8011]

Turn your fucking music down!!!

[@theaverageworkshop6812]

couldnt watch due to stupid music

[@rocket625]

dude this video is a train wreck

[@ThePentadactyl]

If you are talking in a video - SHUT OFF this terrible music

[@am-fil]

Couldn't watch it because of the freaking disgusting excuse for music

[@nicobreet4452]

good day. just a question, what is the sequence on the decompression solenoid? is it still pulling it in or is that function of the control unit bypassed completely. and in normal case would the solenoid pull in once only as you pressed the starter button or does it pull, release and pull until the bike starts or you let go of the starter button thank you

[@nicobreet4452]

good day. just a question, what is the sequence on the decompression solenoid? is it still pulling it in or is that function of the control unit bypassed completely. and in normal case would the solenoid pull in once only as you pressed the starter button or does it pull, release and pull until the bike starts or you let go of the starter button thank you