Suzuki LTR450 Quadracer Pros and Cons

Thank you guys for taking the time to watch this video! if you noticed any pros and cons that I neglected to discuss please leave them below in the comments and if I deem them an acceptable pro/con I will add it to the list in this description. I'll start with a con I didn't discuss in the video. REVERSE! This machine has no reverse gear. To me this isn't really a con as the other machines this quad was designed to compete with also did not have reverse. Regardless, I will add it.
Amendments
PROS:
-Smooth/Linear power curve (Nathan Mistler)
-Rider Triangle (Nathan Mistler)
CONS:
-No Reverse (Patrick Riggs).

[@driller6801]

I miss my ltr! Had power commander full HMF and air box eliminator. 13/39 sprockets and 20 inch tires. Trail riding king and held its own in the drags. Never had one problem out of it.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

That's what I'm talking about!

[@LosDoyerss]

Love my ‘06, got a ton of parts. Dasa exhaust, intake, Power Commander, full Elka suspension etc. The quad rips. But the only downside is they can run hot with mods. I bought mine for 3,500 in pristine condition.

[@23MikeJ22]

I've got an 09 LTR and it is a great machine. I think if we have a little knowledge of motors we should be okay when it comes to this quad. I'm keeping mine because they are becoming rare which to me makes them more fun to have. Clean quad by the way😀

[@hunterdumont259]

I love my 2007 LTR450 it’s on the original top end and I’ve been riding it hard over the years

[@FLOORINGUNIVERSITY]

2007 best year winn championships with mine 120ft camle backs easy

[@CLIVIXX]

I got a 2010 yfz450x but this quad has been my favorite since my neighbor bought one new when I was a kid I’m probably gonna end up getting one just to ride

[@dyland9211]

The ltr is so awesome but my favorite i think is the canam ds450xmx those motoworks canams were sick the won natalie won a championship on. Wouldnt mind having one

[@ngraves1002]

Love this quad. Still own my 06 i bought new.. Have owned several of these. Mine is a 496 stroke.12.8 je piston. Did all the work and tuning myself. I have my base tune, then allow the autotune kit to make additional adjustments just like a car. Always has perfect AFR. 15t front sprocket, 20" rear, 22" front. Will easily do over 80mph. Very reliable. 0 issues once the fuel system is reworked. Still rocking the original oem clutch to give an idea how well it has been taken care of. Icecube cylinder on the self waiting for a 500cc plus build.

[@fabricationnation8052]

I have an 06 that I bought new...it has beadlocks, a lone star axle, and a cherry bomb....best damn quad ever made....get you some!

[@steviedee71]

Holy cow that 250R is the sexiest quad I ever seen 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@adamsbikebuilds4265]

I just picked up an 09 that doesn’t run went over it yesterday checked valves and timing and just found the injector isn’t spraying. OEM is close to $300 for one. Have you had to replace yours? If so which way did you go?

[@PatrickRiggs33]

I haven't had to replace mine yet, but there are 3 options. OEM (route I would personally go), Five-O Motorsports supposedly makes a good replacement, or send yours to Fuel Injector Connection and have them clean and test yours, it only runs $25-$40. If the injector isn't spraying, the entire fuel system needs gone through. New Pump, New Swirl Filter, Test, clean, or replace the pressure regulator. If you only do one (like the injector) it will just plug right back up or another component will fail. Do the entire system at once if you actually want to ride it and have a lot of trouble free miles. I've since gone to a submersible KTM SXF fuel pump with built in FPR. So much nicer and cleaner than the factory setup.

[@houtz68]

Just picked up a clean stock 08 for 3k. Love it so far!

[@martinalamurov6740]

Great video

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Thanks Martin!

[@racequad9]

How expensive is it to rebuild an LTR compared to other 450s like the YFZ or TRX ? I ask because someone is selling an 06 for $3,100 and it looks well kept but you never know when buying used. Is rebuilding them tricky or are they pretty straight forward?

[@PatrickRiggs33]

They are very straight forward but OEM Suzuki Parts are genuinely a little more $$ than Honda and especially Yamaha they seem to be the most affordable. If you are going racing and starting from scratch go Yamaha. If you want one of the best 450 quads ever made, go LTR.

[@racequad9]

@@PatrickRiggs33 Thanks for the info! I've always liked the LTRs and I would like a FI YFZ but I don't see them go for under $4k in Florida. I'm just a recreational rider, nothing serious. Mostly trail riding with the occasional drag race events here and there. I just hope the one I am going to look at is in as good condition as it looks in the pictures

[@nathanmistler1186]

Just some extras about these for me: Power curve - very linear/smooth Rider triangle Also some of the upgrades that make it better: Changing the gear ratio Changing tire sizes Kicker swaps - weight savings & engine response Shift kit swaps - more positive shifts Shift pin relocators Then for more performance: +1 valves Port and polish Vortex Race cut air box For even more power - CRF hybrid CRF hybrid drops 40+lbs of weight

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Thanks! I added the smooth/linear power curve. I should have touched on that more. It does have an excellent rider triangle, but that is definitely a preference thing. Some consider the Honda the best in terms of "rider cockpit". The Yamaha has a very large/roomy feel. All excellent tips on ugprades.

[@nathanmistler1186]

@@PatrickRiggs33 I like those upgrades because you will retain much of the reliability vs going straight to big bore. These bikes respond very well to +1 valves especially on the exhaust side where it gets choked. If I were going a cheap route for good power I would start with a port and polish and +1 exhaust valve. Then look at cams later, after saving to do a +1 intake side. I'm going to be sending mine off soon for +1 valves, port and polish and then a Vortex ECU.

[@UlisesHermosilloP]

It’s better than YFZ 450? Thinking in this 2 options

[@PatrickRiggs33]

No it's not better. More unique? I think so.

[@floridatrailrider305]

I like the move going stock suspension and having them revalued, LTR looks awesome🤟

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Thank you! 🙏

[@billyfpv2777]

My brother has a 2008 special edition "black plastics" model bone stock all but the yoshi cherry bomb. Motor has never had a bolt or nut turned on it since he bought it brand new. And i do agree with the handling it feels like its on rails in turns goes exactly where you point the front end.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

That's pretty slick! This one was 100% bone stock when I got it. Every stock part I took off (parking break, headlight, stock dash, etc...) I bagged up and put in my LTR spare parts tub. Nothing custom on this one just simple bolt ons so could be returned to stock one day. That is really cool your brother kept it like that, something like that will be worth something in 20 years especially a clean stock example. Hope he keeps it!

[@max_murphy2511]

My 2009 LTR is my favorite I’ve ever had! Best handling and reliable in my opinion, it’s had a few fuel system issues but I now know how to fix them, mine is a 2009 bone stock down to the tires and grips, never been titled either still has the dealer certificate title.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

I love your LTR, hope its a forever bike for you. The 2009 is the pinnacle for LTR's in my opinion.

[@tacroom12]

I’m stuck between a built 2008 ltr 450 and a 2012 yfz 450. I’ve owned a yfz but never an ltr. Which would you recommend between the two? I’ll be running it on a track and on the trails. Thank you

[@bikelifewithalex120]

Nice Clean Machines the way I like them. Must love them Suzuki's my bro had a 50cc Suzuki quad as a kid. Pull starter cable broke half the times but fun little machine.

[@lawrencegolightly4411]

I a 07 new crank,piston,cylinder, rides and handles better than yfz and banshee. Will not our run yfz and shee.

[@JParsley]

I’m buying an 06 tomorrow and this video made me feel even better about my choice. Thanks!

[@shanewilliams8768]

Thought about some nice elkas instead? I agree air shocks feel great, but it's nice to just start it up and go. Also 06-07 have a pretty solid transmission. I dunno about 08 but later than that will probably have trans issues eventually.

[@lawrencegolightly4411]

I have a 07 ltr the handling is great.It won't out run 5 valve yamaha 450. Had honda 400ex love it but it runs hot.

[@TheWoolie10]

Think u so much bro thank u

[@anthonycr2502]

I had a friend that let me ride his ltr450 that supposedly had a race engine from Yoshimura I believe and that that was a beast! Made my want one

[@ThatexMason]

My buddy dent his frame on a little ass stump😂 I’ll stick to my Hondas

[@TheWoolie10]

What’s up pat I’m looking at a clean ltr all stock for 4000 what you think

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[@keithstone4476]

Ive never ridden an ltr but ive been looking for the right one for a while, very high on the list to add to my collection. #DiggerDoug

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[@claudiulucascenariu2845]

I have 2 Ltr,1 Kfx 450, and 1 yamaha yfz 450.ltr is good bud comparing the acceleration,yfz is a monster

[@e5m956]

Dang, I beat a 2022 YFZ450 with my 2010 KFX450R in a drag race every time. My KFX has a FCI intake, FMF Power Bomb header with HMF silencer, and a HMF fuel controller (that I never touched the default settings on). Right out of the hole I'm gone. I also beat my friends Banshee...

[@TreBuildz]

That thing definitely is sweet ! Sometimes I wish I never sold mine but for the stuff I had done to it I was disappointed power wise literally new everything ported head,hotcams,high comp piston and was not impressed. Like you say though it sure did handle nice.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Nice! Damn that sucks you were disappointed. I think they are plenty powerful stock for how I use it.

[@TreBuildz]

@@PatrickRiggs33 I get you 100% ltr makes good power stock. For some reason the one I built just didn’t run like it should have in my opinion. Stock bike ran harder that the mild built motor I had.

[@MichiganQuadTrailsTales]

Great Video! I love watching videos of the different brands of quads, I can learn so much from them all. Getting back into the Quad stuff after all my Crappy beginning of the Year. I enjoyed seeing Walker, Reminds me of one of mine I had.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

I do too man! Its enjoyable learning about the other quads. Have to love those little critters. We lost one back in January, and rescued two kittens in April. They are a handful but love being In the garage.

[@Cloroxbleach-mp7hv]

Had a question Patrick riggs the nuts with lock nuts EX A ARM and shock and rear linkage could be reuse or replace with new lock nuts thank you

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Are you asking if the nuts/bolts are a torque to yield one time use only type thing? No, you can definitely reuse them indefinitely.

[@Cloroxbleach-mp7hv]

@@PatrickRiggs33 have an email by chance appreciate building my ltz400 from the ground up

[@MnWarrior350]

Dude, great walk around video again. So much good info and knowledge. Can't wait to see this thing destroy croom!

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Thanks dude!

[@dadspeed227]

Perfect timing! I’m going to look at one this weekend.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Dude I absolutely love your videos! You've got that 400ex setup so nice! If you have any questions about the LTR let me know.

[@dadspeed227]

@@PatrickRiggs33 oh no way! thank you I really appreciate it! I love all your machines and your videos man keep it up

[@itsmeitsdrew]

great vid man super thorough - fuel filter is a pain , but it isn't end of the world. people have issues with the fuel system ( myself included, have had em :D ) but once you get the hang of it you're good to go. my biggest con you didn't mention , granted mine was abused :/ , is the Aarms and the ball joints being machined in -.- love my stock suspension though!!

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Hahaha that is definitely a con if you plan on staying with stock arms. I actually already cut the stock ball joints off, and drilled and tapped them for FRAP 3002 threaded ball joints. Much better! Unfortunately, they are all like this except for the YFZ450R's.

[@itsmeitsdrew]

@@PatrickRiggs33 ah man that would have been a great vid! did you lose any width? I've been on the fence of doing it just because i love my ride currently, but the whoops at croom are taking a toll on the ball joints :D

[@PatrickRiggs33]

@@itsmeitsdrew I was planning on it but ran into a few snags along the way. Nope you don't lose any width as long as you cut them in the correct spot.

[@dustytrailswithepa]

You have a nice collection of Quads

[@haydensimmons9067]

Hey Patrick don’t know if you’ve covered this on the channel previously do you have any recommendations for fox floats setup just bought 07 ltr450 not too long ago came with floats and houser setup looking for good settings for clickers high/low speed and rebound headed out to glamis at the end of the month and just wanted to reach out and see what’s the best setting recommendations for these floats

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Really depends on your weight and riding style but try this: EVOL: 215-230 PSI Main: 35 PSI Rebound: 12-14 clicks out Low Speed Comp: 12-14 clicks out High Speed : back way out to like 18-20 clicks out See how that feels 👍

[@haydensimmons9067]

@@PatrickRiggs33 thanks boss really appreciate it will make these changes this Saturday and hit you back to let you know how it goes. Absolutely love the ltr, look forward to more content with it I’ve had a lot of bikes in the last 10 years and the ltr always stood out amongst the rest for me had previously had one about four years ago now and was always impressed by it so I had to get another one for this riding season thanks again man have a great one !

[@Floridawoodsbanshee]

Yep my friend bought one brand new. Sure did handle better than my 2006 banshee. That's when I decided to get after market suspension and set it up similar to the Suzuki 450. Obviously the banshee was making low 70 hp. He ended up loving the banshee better after I spent the money on suspension. He sold the Suzuki.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Damn!

[@Floridawoodsbanshee]

@PatrickRiggs33 we started out with Honda 400's. Then I bought the brand new Suzuki 400z. Later on I sold the 400z for the 2006 banshee when I found out Yamaha was going to stop selling them. My friend sold Honda 400 for the new Suzuki 450. All the thought and money I put into the banshee was a result of what I like and didn't like about the the Suzuki 450. The banshee xc build is a mix between your Honda and 450. Obviously I was looking for instant bottom mid and top end power spread out like a four-stroke so case porting, boost ports, and cylinders was needed along with proper carbs, exhaust, ect.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

@@Floridawoodsbanshee Well I'll be damned!

[@Floridawoodsbanshee]

​@PatrickRiggs33 did you decide on what bike you're going to sell?

[@firsttitlegaming3156]

I love the LTR

[@traviscannoles6361]

That thing looks so good in the yellow plastics bro!

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Thanks bro!

[@brianfl33916]

Are OEM plastics still available for these?

[@PatrickRiggs33]

They are, but expect to pay!

[@brianreynolds5246]

Ive got a stock ltr unmolested change the fuel swirl filter and the injector ive nevwr had a problem

[@Dissentient01]

I had a mint '06. Traded it for a '21 ktm 250sx (the last of the carby 2t) and I would do it again in a heartbeat.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

I would too. Stupid kwads.

[@alecmya]

I am planing to buy one, how much u spend on a set of tires ?

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Depends which tires you go with. A few hundred.

[@brettgabel4088]

Who makes that seat cover you run on that thing as well as the LTZ-400?

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Quadtech

[@arctic8428]

Hey Patrick first off sweet looking LTR . I recently picked one up from an older gentleman who said he never jumped or did anything crazy to it. He was the original owner back in 06 when he bought it. Anyway Upon doing some research I wanted to install a few parts but don’t want to sacrifice reliability. The bike is currently bone stock besides maybe a uni air filter. I plan on installing a full yoshi exhaust but people say you need to add a cherry bomb module to unlock its potential and make the bike run fine because of of the fuel injection is this true? Others haven’t installed anything and said it ran perfectly fine. I don’t want to ruin its reliability and plan on keeping it because it an amazing machine. Ohh yeah and is a power commander needed would it serve a special purpose? Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 🙏

[@PatrickRiggs33]

As long as you only plan on running a full system and uni filter all you need is a cherry bomb. Yes you need it. Doesn't have to be a yoahimira cherry bomb, it could be any kind of fuel map key that accesses the 2nd map within the ECU. HMF Makes one, along with others.

[@arctic8428]

@@PatrickRiggs33 as we speak I am navigating myself through old threads because I am sure these questions have been answered already. Thank you. Looking forward to more LTR content.

[@jacobjordan760]

Trying to get a 2007 LTR450 for 3500 right now he asking 5k.

[@PatrickRiggs33]

If it's clean/unmolested $5k isn't unreasonable in 2024.

[@TheWoolie10]

What’s up pat I’m looking at a clean ltr all stock for 4000 what you think

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Great deal if it's in good shape

[@Economical_Overeem]

Where did you get the decal kit from?

[@PatrickRiggs33]

Graphics Producer on eBay

[@Economical_Overeem]

@@PatrickRiggs33 thank you

[@LLW_KENNELS]

Where in fl you at. Im in SWFL

[@PatrickRiggs33]

A little north of Tampa.

[@Fr331995]

They are 368 pounds.

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