Suzuki V-Strom 800DE 4000km Review | Ridden Properly Off-Road | The Ultimate KLR650 Upgrade?

Is it heavy? Is there lots of heat? How does it tackle singletrack? In depth owner review, ridden properly off-road.
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[@onthebackwheel]

Gday everyone, I made an audio error at the start and edited it out. In that section I was talking about the riding I've been doing on the bike which includes adventure rides, beach riding, fire trails, single track and commuting. My bad! Thanks for watching.

[@brunobb3356]

I have my vstrom 800 DE since the beginning of August and I did 9000km because I went to Spain and Portugal (I live in France) to do the tracks and I am extremely satisfied with this bike , this Suzuki has a very nice balance and huge capacity in off road . I mounted the KTM reinforced hand guard , the new AXP engine shoe that was developed by TOM BARRER , the double take mirrors and the Suzuki crash bar . In road trip and off road I use the reckless 80l 👍🙂

[@onthebackwheel]

Sounds like a great set up! I'm seriously considering the AXP plate. Do you have an exact link for the hand guards?

[@Andreas_Cologne]

What are double take mirrors?

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Andreas_Cologne hey mate, double take is the brand. They are a very popular, foldable mirror. Got a great reputation if a little expensive

[@vincenttarquini4235]

Your review was excellent and very thorough. You realistically answered the heat issue. I own a 900lb Victory Vision Tour which is air-oil cooled. On a hot day it can get warm, most of the heat comes off the dual lower pipes, but it is tolerable and goes away as soon as the bike moves. I am seriously considering the Suzuki 800DE because it is much lighter, and I do have to run non tarmac roads to get to some places. It will be primarily a street motorcycle for commuting and fun rides, but I do some serious long distance trips occasionally. Like you, I am tall at 6'4"+ and am also a large build. I currently weigh about 270+ pounds and have a 33" inseam. I think the higher seat height will be more comfortable, especially at a stop than my current seat height of 261/2 inches. I also expect to be able to carry more gear with some good side panniers and top box. If Suzuki had offered cruise control for long Interstate stretches, it would be just about perfect, but when it comes to motorcycles, nothing is perfect. I rarely use the cruise control on my Vic and only for short periods at that, so I can live without it. For me the weight of this motorcycle would be a vacation compared to my current scooter and it would be a far more versatile motorcycle. At almost 69 years of age it would also be less taxing.

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate. Sounds like it's near the perfect bike for you. And you're right, it'll be a comparative feather weight! You've probably considered it already, but the closest bike that has cruise is probably the Tiger 900, bit more expensive though

[@bitterlifes]

Very very good reviews! Well generally for me this is a excellent motorcycle! This bike is a true definition of one midweight adventure bike! Awesome on road and very good off road, reliable, simple, versatile and reasonable price. With this bike you can take long trip, without any headache. Well done Suzuki👍

[@carlospinzon9842]

Great video, thank you for the hard work!!

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate!

[@aderiley6592]

Thanks for the update. Good to see you're getting on well with the bike and are mostly happy with it. Looking forward to seeing the future farkles. Ride safe 🤙

[@onthebackwheel]

Me too mate, keennnnn

[@toddwmac]

Thanks mate! Always appreciate your perspectives.

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers bud

[@jc7654]

it's always good when you can't find much wrong with it after a bit of use. 👍

[@onthebackwheel]

Very happy owner so far

[@davidgrunklee8407]

Great job Curtis!

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate

[@saz123ful]

You made an amazing and honest review, you are the best! Thank you ❤

[@onthebackwheel]

Thank you!

[@chadkline4268]

Great channel, keep up the good work 👍

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate

[@user-hq7rb5hv7s]

great honest review by someone who actually rides it every day and every way. Thanks

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers mate

[@JimmyHutchison]

Great review up date mate 👍

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks Jimmy

[@papachis9535]

Thanks Mate. Very helpful.

[@onthebackwheel]

No worries, glad I could help

[@dwayneneufeld1696]

Great review Curtis! I have an 800DE and love it!

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate. That's good to hear, really enjoying mine

[@DocMagoo]

4000km already, wow. Great review, well done mate

[@onthebackwheel]

I know right. Couple of trips and before you know it you rack them up

[@anthonyfox5337]

Good review mate.

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate

[@Wayfaringwolf]

Fantastic video Curtis, I'll try to follow-up on some of the parts you've mentioned.

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate

[@billcotton1551]

It still looks really good Curtis! Still my favorite in this weight class.

[@onthebackwheel]

It's certainly nice

[@sweatmachine69]

Nice review Curtis. I just recently installed the AXP bash plate on my 800de and I am happy with it. I have Heed upper & lower crash bars and it all works together with a very minimal amount of trimming of the bash plate.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to hear. I want that axp plate!

[@kentuckyadv]

Great review; thanks for the info. I came from a KLR, too, and I agree with you about being a killer KLR upgrade. Man.... I'm waiting for a decent selection of third-party accessories in the US. :(

[@onthebackwheel]

They are trickling in slowly. SRC have just finalized theirs so I'm going to get their bash plate, head guard and a couple of other things

[@a.e.neumann8949]

Thanks for telling us your complains. This will be my first Bike. Ride Safe!

[@onthebackwheel]

Nice mate, it's a good bike, enjoy!

[@mikealls8938]

Good review mate. Don't know if anyone can remember but this colour scheme reminds me of a Raleigh striker pushbike from the 80s which I had as a kid. Love the vstrom just for that! 😊

[@onthebackwheel]

I looked it up, very similar colours, looks mint!

[@TheSar]

Good work, Curtis - glad you're liking the Strom. I love my 1050XT......the "Big Pig" as I call it.

[@onthebackwheel]

Big pig, love it

[@lyubengeorgiev1751]

Thank you for this honest and detailed review! Those were words coming from real world experience and not a quick test drive. It would be amazing if you create a video with comparison between the 800 DE and the Tuareg 660....even though they are so different bikes to some extend they both have the most important - adjustable suspension and useful electronics (both missing in all other mid-weight adventure bikes). Keep up the good work and many flawless km to the next 10 000 k review.

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers mate. I'll see what I can do, love the Tuareg

[@lyubengeorgiev1751]

@@onthebackwheel Really appreciate it. After posting this comment I did some research regarding the reliability issues with Aprilia and it appears to be typical Italian in this case. In the Aprilia forum they are speaking about engine oil leaks, bad transmission in some bikes with almost no chance to hit the neutral, front brake problems and few minor tweaks. I guess we still need to wait for some improvements to be done by Aprilia (except for the colours) in order to bet on the Tuareg for long haul trips. Btw, you can check one interesting bike that I believe is offered in Australia as well - SWM 650 R. It’s a Chinese/Italian project back from the 2017 that originates from Husky TE 630 but with an improved engine, same the AJP PR7 uses. On paper it looks like the only competitor of KTM 690 Adventure and could be found for the half of the price.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@lyubengeorgiev1751 I know swm very well. Good options and a good reputation. I was heavily considering getting a super dual

[@roaminguero]

Thanks for the videos on this, seriously considering one next year. Saw some renders of a white/purple paint scheme, I’d fancy that if made real but also like the yellow. The rear number plate thing is indeed a pain but have a look at some other countries what satellite dish sized plates they need to have and I guess they just had to find a middle ground that would work everywhere… our plates here in CH are fairly small, at least half of the UK plates!

[@onthebackwheel]

The rear plate hanger is a pain. I see Hessler has some solutions now

[@jimpartin1144]

Great review. I have over 7,000 miles on my 800 now. I couldn’t be happier with the bike. I highly recommend the HDB (Highway Dirt Bikes) hand guards. They look great on the bike and there are no better designed hand guards out there.

[@onthebackwheel]

A fair few people have recommended HDB guards, always good to have more options

[@blackskunk54]

HDB good, had their stuff on my Africa Twin, very good quality

[@SkintSNIPER262]

What version of the handguards did you get?

[@AdvMTB]

Love the riding and the review. Not looking at getting one of these but enjoy the outback/bush rides. I’m waiting for Honda to make a 400/450 rally that fits 6ft+ 200 pound guys (small/regular in USA)

[@onthebackwheel]

Mate you and me both. No one's got the balls to do it though

[@peterjensen6645]

Great review, I got 8000 km on mine now. Love the bike, there have been no problems. Mine is a bit clunky when when going from first to second gear (mabe it needs another chain adjustment) other then that i cant find anything to complain about :-) riding season i over here in Denmark. so i am in the prosess of making a tubless convention at the moment.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to hear you're enjoying it mate. 8000kms is a great effort so far!

[@bartoszpajak2285]

I picked mine up on September 22nd, 2.500 km so far. I love the bike. I have the Hepco Becker crash bars, Barkbusters, a bash plate and some Dunlop Trailmax Raid tires fitted - that’s probably all I need for my riding.

[@onthebackwheel]

Sounds like a good set up to me. What bash plate did you go with?

[@bartoszpajak2285]

@@onthebackwheel SW-Motech. 250Eur in EU. It's pretty solid and, despite the OEM one from Suzuki, which is heavily overpriced, it's the only one available so far ;-)

[@onthebackwheel]

@@bartoszpajak2285 that OEM is bloody expensive!

[@crispinleslie]

Hey Curtis I thought you’d made a mistake when you changed from your KLR- now you’ve got me thinking twice. Looking forward to that comparison 😎👍

[@onthebackwheel]

She's a step up in nearly every way than the mighty KLR

[@crispinleslie]

@@onthebackwheel Curtis-to be clear I get it that the Strom is a better quality bike than the Gen 3, but is it seriously better off road too?

[@onthebackwheel]

@@crispinleslie I can't go anywhere on my 800 that I couldn't on the KLR. Much of a muchness, BUT the V Strom is more fun because of the engine and modern feel. The stock suspension is significantly better too

[@stellarwandertale2128]

Great review and I completely agree. In line with my own observations with my 800 DE Adventure. I love this bike. I think of it as an SUV and not an ATV. The Adventure trim was a good fit for me and I have already gotten good use of the panniers, crash bars, and bash plate. The only upgrades I've made are: 1) center stand; 2) the larger OEM windshield; and 3) a set of Motoz Tractionator GPS tires. I don't think I need to do anything else with the bike. It is ready.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to hear mate. Is anyone doing a centre stand yet?

[@Andreas_Cologne]

Center Stand was the first (and by now) the only thing I "changed" at my 800 DE. It's a little bit expensive and it scratches pretty early in the curves but I still think, that bikes with chains should always have a centre stand.

[@Terran_tino]

Hey m8, off topic for this video but just wanted to say thanks for the tip on the pirelli tyres, I was on phone to KTM and they can’t get Motoz right now, really helped a tonne to have plan b ready to go. Booked in for sat to for the scorpion rally, heading to Fraser on the KTM 890r with em soon… love to ride with u sometime mate, I may have a chance at keeping up!

[@onthebackwheel]

You'll love those in the sand mate. Hit me up on social media or email, maybe one day we can catch up for a ride!

[@Nulrom]

I've got the puig windshield. Definitely recommend. I have also the stock BIG one and I didnt like it. So much wind noise and buffeting. I'm about to raise the handlebars cause I'm shorter than you and I have some issues on reaching the bottom end of the bars when fully turning the steer. I use it for work and commuting but my work involves going out at night so i need some lights. The stock ones don't illuminate the twistes in mountains and it's a littlebit dangerous. I confirm what you say about low speeds, you feel it. Especially when you are in a small road with lot of slippery rocks. The front jumps a little. Also i will replace the exhaust sometimes. But I love my Banana. She's a perfect "I can do everything".

[@onthebackwheel]

Great points mate and good to know about the Puig. I completely forgot the lights, not great in the bends

[@jonathanboudville2483]

Couldn’t agree more after having it for almost month

[@onthebackwheel]

She's a good rig

[@user-lp9dv3dw1h]

Excellent ongoing review, I reckon I could shape some angle aluminium to mount the remote preload. Those handguard are totally giving me the poos. I have already broken a brake lever($130). I will wait a little longer for barkbusters to come out with something specific but if it takes too long I'll fit some generic ones. The other thing that annoys me is the lack of underseat storage. Coming off a gen1 650 there was stacks of space for tools and stuff under the seat, not so much with the big banana.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good point. They've made this overkill subframe but no storage!

[@wheelbarrowarrior]

Hi mate, great review. I'd love a comparison with the klr650. Battle of the pig's 😆

[@onthebackwheel]

Haha will do

[@gabrielkopp2036]

I just installed thr tusk d flex pro adventure hand guards on mine..a bit fiddling on throttle side because of the front brake line.. but for 78 US dollars compared to 200 it was worth the effort

[@onthebackwheel]

Not a bad price at all

[@Stathisqq]

As an extermly happy owner exactly the same motorcycle as yours, I have only one complaint. The headlights.... They are so weak and almost dangerous in dark roads. I just ordered two auxiliary fog lights and I believe it will solve the issue once and for all.

[@onthebackwheel]

Mate I forgot to mention them and should have. You're right, they aren't great

[@moorepower13]

You can over tighten the chain then it will introduce more stretch and you will begin chasing your tail with tightening it. Remember it's gotta have length for the swingarm to pivot. So check it with a friend who's about your weight sitting on the bike.

[@onthebackwheel]

It's settled at a good spot now and hasn't needed any further adjustment. Must just be a slightly stretched new chain to begin with

[@cranedaddy678]

Good review. I've got 250 miles on my 800de so far.

[@onthebackwheel]

Nice mate, hope you're enjoying it

[@cranedaddy678]

@@onthebackwheel 3500 miles now, still loving it!

[@onthebackwheel]

@@cranedaddy678 hell yeah!

[@robbieandbeckie]

I put a high seat on my 2021 Africa Twin and is more comfortable. I believe the KLR seat is the best style seat, so comfortable, and a lot of room.

[@onthebackwheel]

It's pretty flat the KLR one

[@roadstrom]

I test rode the transalp Suzuki and the CF Moto MT 800 the Suzuki was the standout. But personally I'm sticking with the good old V-strom 650

[@onthebackwheel]

Those 650s are a good thing

[@jamiecartledge6891]

Great review, I would add 10mill of oil to each fork leg

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers, I might give it a crack

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

A fair bit of power pulling that relatively small rear sprocket mate, & you're making it work hard in the dirt, more than it was intended for. But I still think a great choice for some long trips and open tracks and will get you there even when it gets a bit rough. AND it looks good, reminds me a bit of the F800GS👍 PS: a lighter aftermarket pipe might be worthy. And finally, Who is going to get on the back with you driving 😁

[@onthebackwheel]

Hahaha my wife isn't interested that's for sure. I definitely want a pipe. Not only for weight but looks, the stocker is ugly as

[@xtrekadventure8225]

I've just bit the bullet and decided that Hepco and Becker is the best aftermarket crash protection on the market right now. I've got the tank guards (which i have layderdown on multiple times with no damage to the bike), hand guards (the website doesn't do the guards justice, they are beefy AF), and the engine guards have been ordered but are on back order. Real quality from H&B.

[@onthebackwheel]

That's reassuring. Haven't had the chance to take them off road yet but they have impressed me so far. I'll look at the hand guards

[@xtrekadventure8225]

Hepco and Becker have come out with a skid plate just recently@@onthebackwheel

[@blackskunk54]

Thanks, I am seriously considering a DE and looking into accessories ATM.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Excellent review Curtis. A person has to scratch their heads at the tires that manufacturers put on new bikes. I've sometimes thought about having the dealer swap before taking a bike home but the cost usually stops me with an added curiosity about how bad can these tires be. lol Usually pretty bad, but it gives a benchmark when we swap them out, then its like getting a new bike again.

[@onthebackwheel]

Haha exactly, if they come with it might as well try them for a bit!

[@moorepower13]

Answer is easy. Manufactures have to buy an affordable, "do it all"tire at a cost by the thousands all at once.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

@@moorepower13 They don’t have to, it’s a false economy to the buyer. A savvy buyer will pay more for capable components, wether it’s tires or suspension.

[@swissteam777]

She a beauty, thanks for the review. PS: that stock pipe needs to go and be replaced by a slip on Yoshimura 🙂

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers. Have a look at my latest couple of videos mate, I went SC Project 🔥🔥🔥

[@1young-geezer]

Compared to the Tuareg 660? You did such a nice set of reviews on the Aprilia, better than most other reviewers. But when the comparisons fly, only the Japanese bikes and the KTMs are ever mentioned. So far the reliability issue seems still farther down the mileage no one's reached yet, so why is it still so disregarded? Anyway, I'd love to hear that become more often a common point of comparison. I can still remember two of your more demanding rides on the Tuareg, and even the videos themselves of the rides, visibly and audibly, seemed fluid, nimble, and more huge fun than your other bike experiences. Thanks Curtis for all your reviews, I love watching you wrestle the outback on whatever you're on.

[@TommyNitro]

I think Ian from bigrock moto has the Tuareg.

[@1young-geezer]

@TommyNitro Actually not sure he still does, didn't see it in the garage during his latest review on the Honda Transalp. Nonetheless, all these new reviews leave the Tuareg out when they're comparing it, they include the Japanese and Austrian bikes in comparisons, but the lonely Tuareg is rarely if ever mentioned. I just wondered how Curtis feels about this Suzuki compared to the Tuareg, just for comparison ranking sake. I myself own the Tuareg and love it, but can't ride it like Curtis - he's a beast and taking us on all his wonderful adventures........

[@TommyNitro]

@@1young-geezer He hasn't put out any specific vids on it for 5 months. I have a friend who has one who loves it. Regardless, I agree with you. People like to compare everything to the T7 or KTM, but not the Aprillia.

[@onthebackwheel]

I briefly mentioned the Tuareg in the weight section (need to put the time stamps in). The Tuareg is still my pick of the bunch and the best I've ridden. It is amazing off road and fun on it. The V Strom is a bit more civilized and solid on the road. I may buy one next, we'll see

[@maximusmiles8435]

Not sure if it's been covered. But a new chain is going to stretch. So you can expect that from a new bike. They don't come pre-stretched. At some point they don't stretch anymore, so that's good.

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah hopefully it's just it being a new chain. It also has the appearance of being looser than it is with no bottom chain guide

[@marktaylor4277]

Good update on the bike and your ongoing thoughts and requirements. I'm torn between the 800DE and the Tuareg 660. I have test ridden both and for my intended use - my preference would be the latter if it wasn't for parts availability, servicing costs every 12k and aftermarket availability.. it's everything I want in a bike with really good suspension, lighter weight, virtually same power, cruise and intelligent electronics. Can you add anything to help sway me one way or the other? Tough call.

[@pita25]

You mentioned the preference, go for it otherwise you’ll regret that. 😊

[@onthebackwheel]

I agree with @pita25. My pick is the Tuareg, best bike ATM and they've all got to be serviced every 12000 anyway 😂. Long as you've got a dealer nearby, you should be fine. I've had a couple of Aprilias and the only issue I ever had was the stators and that doesn't seem to be a problem anymore

[@Pau1Paul]

@@onthebackwheel do you regret not getting the toureg?

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Pau1Paul nah. It's the bike I wanted but this suited what I'm doing with the channel right now. Maybe next bike!

[@Pau1Paul]

@@onthebackwheel Excellent. I previously commented with you after the KLR bit the dust and mentioned the 800DE might be the better bike for the channel, I'm just glad its also the right bike for you.

[@vaughndrew852]

Staintune will make a tail pipe soon I test rode this bike and will be trading my harley in the demo bike was like riding my Honda xr650r but like an Yamaha r1 on the tar

[@onthebackwheel]

It's a good mix. Still waiting on the Staintune

[@toltod]

Any thoughts on tail tidy for the rear. Or raising the Front Fender since you have knobbies on? I did message Baja designs about a possible replacement of the stock headlights since it looks like they could modify the DR650 kit as a possible drop in. Just hit the dealer today to look at a 800DE and will soon decide between either this or a leftover Norden 901.

[@onthebackwheel]

Yep looking at a tail tidy. Hessler does them and they are a big improvement. Front...would need some big mods. Probably better with accessory lights TBH

[@williamrae9954]

Hessler have a flat seat,expensive, €500...i'll wait until Arrows bring out decat headers,and do my usual, custom mid-section, Lextek can! Usual, check Hessler and Trail de Couvert, sure it's Zeta handguards on the Hessler bike? Cycra fit anything usually! McCruise need to get onto the V-Strom 800, maybe worth making contact, you might get a good discount for development purposes?

[@onthebackwheel]

I looked at the hessler seat but it's bloody expensive and I'm happy with the tall seat. I'll look at the guards, need something!

[@drake7707]

How does the exhaust and its bracket hold up after being dropped on a couple of times? I hope there will be a high exhaust option in the future, routed underneath the rear foot peg bracket, similar to how the T7 has that as an aftermarket option so it's completely out of the way.

[@onthebackwheel]

Haven't had an issue...yet. The bracket is bloody thick steel though and it seems to be holding up

[@randomstuff4176]

Great review as always. Do you experience a loud whine from the engine between 4000 and 5000 RPM? I have a GSX-8S (same engine) with only 1000 kms. Does it get quieter or go away? I'm considering a change to the RE model but not if the whine stays there...

[@onthebackwheel]

Hmm no whines. Is it an intake sound?

[@randomstuff4176]

it could be. You can't miss it.. I was wondering why no one mentions it. I can hear the sound on some youtube reviews too, so I know I'm not alone. It was louder with a pillion (load) and goes away when you shut the throttle. I'll raise it with Suzuki..

[@onthebackwheel]

@@randomstuff4176 bizarre, definitely see what they've got to say. I'll have a look online when I get a chance to see if I can catch it. Definitely no noises on the V Strom

[@Knockelhead]

The engine got a strange vibration around that rpm above of under its gone ( fount that during test rides)

[@trailrider1980]

I get a howling noise from rear tire at 38-42 mph. I am not sure if it is my tires as I switched them. I have checked alignment and it is all good.

[@agitheosis]

Could the fuel mapping options be used as a power limiter for different kinds of licenses? Laws and regulations differ between countries -> some have age / experience related restrictions (for beginners). Master key enables mode changing, others are used for riding. You could buy only one bike and have it reprogrammed when you upgrade your license. Also insurance payments could be matched to the setting, if so desired. Any cons to prolonged riding on reduced power? Technically I mean......

[@africaadventureteam706]

In France we have the beginners AT licence with a power limit at 48hp. The 800 DE sells in both versions here, and can be upgraded for ~150€

[@ScottHintz]

The lack of Cruise Control is a deal breaker for me, otherwise I like it.

[@onthebackwheel]

It is a strange one that

[@vaughndrew852]

Put a good hard thrash on my stock de800 Today with 55k up to 150ish bloody hell that seat has lost all comfort need that higher one with more meat for my skinny ass besides that it went bloody good went up river road and up through shallow crossing back to the hiway man at times the bike cracked on hard but the stock tyers and the unexpected held me back I felt like I was 23 on my xr650r 2000 model in 2003 😂 back to the future blast has trained me to respect matter as I move at the speed of light I gave it a good wipe crack

[@onthebackwheel]

It'll change your world when you put on a good set of tyres 😈

[@MikeK6046]

Thanks!!! maybe I missed it? Can you feel its engine heat, is it a problem?

[@onthebackwheel]

It's in there somewhere! Short version, I don't think it's an issue

[@jeffleigh42]

A comparison between the V-Strom and the KLR would be great. Thank you

[@onthebackwheel]

Will do 👊

[@damakralj]

Curtis how would you compare your bike to CFMOTO MT800 that you tested?

[@onthebackwheel]

I'll see how I go for time, could be a good video. I might even try get the updated version to re review

[@fjeewani]

I did not understand if you said you changed the stock seat ? if yes, can you please provide the link to the new seat ?

[@onthebackwheel]

Yes I did. I changed to the OEM Suzuki tall seat. www.suzukimotorcycles.com.au/product/parts-accessories/45100-25LD0-CKA/dl800de-high-seat/

[@FrancoisTX1974]

But as you ride the T7, Tuareg and this one, which one would be the perfect one for daily and off road adventure?

[@onthebackwheel]

Tuareg for sure

[@jonathanboudville2483]

Hi can I check with you if you had converted the rims to tubeless before fitting the motor tyres? By any chance do you recall if the stick rims has a double hump?

[@onthebackwheel]

I didn't convert. They don't have the double hump, they can only run tubes unless you change to the tubeliss set up (even then...). I'm running the tubeless Motoz rear with a tube, be unlucky to get a puncture now 😂

[@bradgallagher3971]

Hey mate do you see any issues with the exhaust bracket. Is it similar to a tenere where the bracket is welded to the frame or does it bolt on so if you damaged it it could be replaced?

[@onthebackwheel]

Potentially. Its welded so could be a problem

[@bradgallagher3971]

No worries mate thanks for the info. Havnt gotten up close to the v strom yet but hopefully soon 🤞

[@F3udF1st]

What would you say for someone who don't plan on riding offroad (because it's illegal) but just loves the look of this bike; is it still worth getting?

[@onthebackwheel]

It's a very good road bike and it comes with nice road tires. Go for it

[@Andreas_Cologne]

It's a big world with plenty of legal opportunities to go off-road.

[@chriskalavashoti2500]

I’m seriously looking at one of these but I noticed the weight is the same more or less as the Africa Twin….. What would you go for? Of road which would be better? I know I road the Africa twin feels good😊

[@onthebackwheel]

You're in luck, I did a comparison video between the 2

[@cblais19]

I wonder if going to the high seat makes you notice the heat less. I notice that in a fairly relaxed position my knees are forward due to the stock peg to seat distance, and that seems to stick my right knee right in the path of all that heat where it's seriously uncomfortable, but if I tuck them in certain ways it reduces it a lot. It's unfortunate they couldn't have put the rubber deflector on both sides to push the heat further out from the rider, but at least it's not from the cat I guess.

[@onthebackwheel]

Maybe? I had the stock seat for a good while too and it's much the same

[@cblais19]

@@onthebackwheel ​​⁠ most of my riding has been in temps 25-35c, wearing pants that permit airflow through the knee area, and boy howdy is that heat noticeable. Never was an issue with the T7/AT1100/etc.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@cblais19 yeah right. I've noticed it, but didn't feel it was bad. I might be more tolerant than some!

[@cblais19]

@@onthebackwheel maybe! It’s really my one big complaint with the bike, everything else is personal ergos or fixable with $ and the base package is so nice. Did just order the tall seat I’d been contemplating thanks to your endorsement tho!

[@onthebackwheel]

@@cblais19 I think the tall seat is great, very happy I'm wondering if a free flowing exhaust system will help get rid of some heat

[@_el_guapo]

Hey mate, maybe it’s been mentioned in comments already I don’t know but how tall are you? To judge that taller seat height.

[@onthebackwheel]

I'm 6ft (183cm)

[@Ridingforsanity]

In regards to the tall seat, how tall are you? I am 5’ 11” and I’m not sure if I would want my 800DE any taller when coming to a stop.

[@onthebackwheel]

183cm, so only just taller

[@trailrider1980]

My bike make a howling sound from the rear tire at between 38 and 42 mph. I am running dunlop raid tires. Do you experience the same sound with your tires?

[@onthebackwheel]

My front is getting loud now it's worn at pretty well all speeds above 60kmph 😂

[@trailrider1980]

@@onthebackwheel i think i will leave it alone. Knobby tires do weird noises sometimes I assume. I only have like 600 miles on the raids.

[@dquin12]

Would you recommend this bike for taller riders? Or go something like a KTM 890 or BMW?

[@onthebackwheel]

At 6ft I put the tall seat and it's great, would still be good if you were a little taller too. The 890 is that bit taller again so I'd probably lean that way if you're quite tall. Haven't had a chance to see the new bmw 900 yet

[@alphajed7700]

I wish one day, Kawasaki will either update their KLR into parallel twin, or make a new middleweight ADV bike to compete against the other 3.

[@onthebackwheel]

I'd be happy if she dropped a bit of weight and had a 6th gear 😂

[@otmuppet]

did you happen to check/set your sag? By the sounds of it it's undersprung. For clickers, try 1/3 from fully closed on Reb and compression

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah its undersprung

[@otmuppet]

@onthebackwheel try the 1/3 trick on your clickers. It won't fix the undersprung issue. Also if you're re spring, talk to your suspension guy, as you may want to revalve the forks/shock. A friend of mine is a whiz bang when it comes to suspension and re valving He's in NSW.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@otmuppet I've set it all up as best as I can for me. I was going to get the suspension all done but gone a bit away from that idea ATM

[@otmuppet]

@onthebackwheel you can work on oem suspension relatively cheap. No need to spend the big bucks. Shims are cheap. Just need to find the right person in the area

[@cpbremote]

Interesting that you recommend the tall seat…. How tall are you?

[@onthebackwheel]

I'm 6 ft (183cm). The stock seat seems very low to me, a real sit in feel that's good on road but no good off it. As it's so scalloped you can get back and it's hard to stand up from

[@cpbremote]

@@onthebackwheelmakes sense. I am 6’4” and find it nice on the road and haven’t gone off road yet. I know what you mean about how it locks you in

[@davidgrunklee8407]

How is your air filter looking?

[@onthebackwheel]

Cleaned the pre filter a couple of times and the filter was fine. Due for a check after my current ride

[@thorstentrapp274]

Cheers. Does it do anything better than the standard Honda AT? Weight seems to be almost the same.

[@onthebackwheel]

There are a couple of things I like more. You're in luck I did a comparison video between them too

[@thorstentrapp274]

@@onthebackwheel, haha...I actually have watched this comparison video before. Forgot probably because my focus was on the AT. Just got interested in the Suzuki more recently. However, watched it again and it answered my questions. Thanks mate.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@thorstentrapp274 all good mate! Any further questions fire away. I ended up having that AT for a while

[@Mudjimba23AT]

Is the airfilter an easy job 🤔

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah very. It's below the seat and then 4 screws

[@WadeMade]

Having ridden both the Tuareg and 800DE which did you prefer?

[@onthebackwheel]

Tuareg, it's a weapon

[@alphajed7700]

​@@onthebackwheelwith the immense hp, light weight, intricate design, I also agree, but there is one thing that Aprilia should work out, their dealership network, even in the Philippines, Aprilia enthusiasts are having a hard time to order body parts, it takes time to get one.

[@elmiggadventure]

Did you prefer tubeless tires on the 800DE?

[@onthebackwheel]

Doesn't worry me either way TBH

[@blackskunk54]

Tubed are better off road and generally safer.

[@darrylpaterick3108]

Being on the heavy side for an 800, what would you pick? The suzuki or a base africa twin?

[@onthebackwheel]

I haven't ridden the new AT so can't say for certain, but it's a bit more off road capable and has more grunt. It is also near enough 6k more 😬

[@Andreas_Cologne]

​@@onthebackwheel Imagine what you can do with 6k.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@Andreas_Cologne oh for sure. Exhaust, tune, suspension and protection... beast!

[@davidgrunklee8407]

Hey Curtis what's your thoughts on the transalp? It is 52lbs lighter I see... you think that would really be felt on bikes this heavy anyway? Plus de suspension is better by all acounts.

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah you'd notice the weight. I'm hoping to ride one soon. YSS have a suspension upgrade for it too that adds travel

[@blackskunk54]

The Suzuki is more fun to ride (XL750 owner) The DE engine has more torque and inspires confidence. Brakes are good.

[@gmarcos95]

Tuareg vs v storm 800 overall?

[@onthebackwheel]

Tuareg

[@sheafrank4816]

Are those tires tubed ?

[@xtrekadventure8225]

Stock tire setup is tubed.

[@sheafrank4816]

@xtrekadventure8225 I know that, what I'm wondering is if there was a tubless conversion done on these stock rims.

[@onthebackwheel]

Still tubed

[@jackwhite8157]

rear number plate?????

[@onthebackwheel]

You'll have to jog my memory, what about it?

[@frankbremer5224]

Hey bro change Ur redgo to single seat ,take pegs bobs Ur uncle,don't have to cut seat anymore,single seat is even cheaper than club redgo in Qld and no restrictions ,,don't give the fuckers more than U have 2

[@onthebackwheel]

Oh I'm well aware of single seat rego 😂. They've also jacked the price up on it so it's nearly the same price, massive joke

[@MyRandomLife247]

You think that's light? Ride a Transalp ;)

[@onthebackwheel]

The big 800 is certainly not light 😂

[@kiliano61]

each one with their taste...nothing more than that, the rest is pure nonsense

[@onthebackwheel]

What do you mean?

[@samporter4818]

How do those tiny, little headlights do??

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah, not great

[@pakithebike]

About the higher seat, how tall are you?

[@onthebackwheel]

I'm 6 foot, it's a perfect height now