Svidler's Carlsen-Caruana Game 6 Analysis - 2018 FIDE World Chess Championship

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@albertobenvenuto9314
@albertobenvenuto9314 5 жыл бұрын
I don't want even to imagine the sad life of a person who tumbs down a video like this made immediately after a game like the one of today. Thank you Mr Svidler, thank you chess24.
@APKSRMKS
@APKSRMKS 5 жыл бұрын
checkers enthusiasts getting more and more militant by the day
@idfx1000
@idfx1000 5 жыл бұрын
Misclicks in time scramble, what else?
@VictorUdd
@VictorUdd 5 жыл бұрын
It's probably the people of Agon
@thenakedsingularity
@thenakedsingularity 5 жыл бұрын
THIS is a game worthy of the world championship.
@julioandresgomez3201
@julioandresgomez3201 5 жыл бұрын
The only one so far, but better don´t exchange queens in the first 10 moves.
@aslanaslan5428
@aslanaslan5428 5 жыл бұрын
Mad respect to you Mr Svidler for doing this analysis shortly after such a long day.
@remilegendre6971
@remilegendre6971 5 жыл бұрын
As everyone already said, a deep and sincere thank you, Peter, for your tremendous love of chess that translates into these recaps. On a chess note, that manoeuvre Ng1 followed by Bh4-c3-d2-g5 is very study-like and beautiful.
@totalpwnership
@totalpwnership 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Peter for posting this after a gruelling 6 hour commentary session. I have been glued to the coverage, but your recaps are my favourite, since you go into so much depth! I hope you get some well-earned rest tomorrow!
@fierluciano7980
@fierluciano7980 5 жыл бұрын
It is not just the analysis, but the gentleman-like way of commenting that makes it a plus! Kudos to GM Svidler and thanks to Chess24!
@yiuqwfj
@yiuqwfj 5 жыл бұрын
I hope chess24 pays you extra money for this, because you've put a lot of effort into this post-analysis at the end of a long day. Thanks for this huge contribution. Respect!
@nikolalalev732
@nikolalalev732 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing effort by GM Svidler to try to analyze this complex position after that tense game ended. Respect! What a game! An ending that even GMs cannot fully grasp, not to mention us mortals.
@Alonzo2110
@Alonzo2110 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis. No one else comes close to this. Many thanks, Peter.
@DasUberCow
@DasUberCow 5 жыл бұрын
I love Peter Svidler. Consider me a new fan of his.
@LaCosaNostra1312
@LaCosaNostra1312 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Svidler, your analysis was very helpful and comprehensible. We appreciate your late night efforts. Chess world would be poor without your presence
@Federico_Gyldenfeldt
@Federico_Gyldenfeldt 5 жыл бұрын
C´mon Peter, You live comment for 7 straight hours with non stop analysis and you only had a 5 min break. And after that you made an hour-long fantastic best analisis. You are a great chess analyst and one of the best players in the world. Have a good rest you deserve it!!!
@THEBOYDALEK
@THEBOYDALEK 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter, a beautiful endgame study with great analysis.
@ima7mad
@ima7mad 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter for such a great analysis.
@rubenmolina3617
@rubenmolina3617 5 жыл бұрын
You got to love Svidler :)
@ramintravel
@ramintravel 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. So grateful for the fantastic job you do during and after games. A real privilege to watch!
@BuggaUgga
@BuggaUgga 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr Svidler, yes you succeeded 50:51. Thanks for the great work. So late and after all these hours.
@tome57a
@tome57a 5 жыл бұрын
Hard for me to find adequate words to describe the technical proficiency, clarity, tirelessness, and humility of GM Peter Svidler. By far the best chess analyst in the business, not to mention consistently one of the top players in the world. We are damn fortunate to have this man providing live commentary and analysis of this match - and at no cost to us, I might add!
@eksheshbekele523
@eksheshbekele523 5 жыл бұрын
Well if humans can find the audacity to hit the dislike button for this video may be they are capable of finding bh5 as well. Thanks Peter, you are more valuable to chess than any single commentator is to any sport.
@arkag2678
@arkag2678 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter. It was so excited to see you in post match analysis.
@paulthebox9164
@paulthebox9164 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaning this epic endgame so soon after the game's end.
@idfx1000
@idfx1000 5 жыл бұрын
"The machine explained to me..." Too modest, as usual. The machine explains nothing. The machine produces an evaluation, spurts out variations that are utterly unintelligible to most of us (certainly untintelligible to me in this particular context, and I am a 2000 FIDE rated player), and you explain it with amazing clarity. I remember the day, in 1997, when I became a Peter Svidler fan ("you're telling me this guy beat Kasparov with an anti-Sicilian system?"). Never been disappointed since.
@rooksman64
@rooksman64 5 жыл бұрын
you’re also one of those people in denial the computers think Yes, the machine explains something by showing the idea...
@idfx1000
@idfx1000 5 жыл бұрын
@@rooksman64 What is your point??? I do understand Svidler's metaphor, because, well, it's an obvious one. I simply said that the idea is unintelligible to most even after the computer shows it, but not to Svidler, who then translated it into intelligible ideas and worsds for the rest of us, which just meant: "thank you". How is that a problem to you? But you are right that I do think computers do not think. It's not the machine that achieves that, by the way, it's the software and hardware developers.
@rooksman64
@rooksman64 5 жыл бұрын
idfx1000 you need to not only update your knowledge of artificial intelligence but your bias of human intelligence as the means to understand things it’s called “other minds” Of course you don’t think computers think. That’s so 1930s. Listen computers understand a lot more than you think and can explain things better than you think as well That’s my point
@idfx1000
@idfx1000 5 жыл бұрын
@@rooksman64 hmmm great, another pointless argument on the internet... next time I will refrain to epxress even a thank you. You're talking semantics here, so yes, you can have any definition of "think" you want as far as I'm concerned. If the idea was to show off your AI knowledge, congrats, you suceeded. Feeling better?
@gabrielefiappo813
@gabrielefiappo813 5 жыл бұрын
@@idfx1000 well, it wasn't modesty actually, without the machine he will never be able to even know that there was a forced checkmate sequence. It would instead be presumptuous to omit the fact that he only managed to see it thanks to the machine. And he used the term "explain" because not everyone needs the some amount of details to understand something: from his point of view, what the machine tells him was enough to comprehend what was going on, therefore it was a sufficient explanation. Just my two cents about this effectively useless discussion on the web
@lachenmann
@lachenmann 5 жыл бұрын
An hour with Peter! Let's go for it...
@cjdlv8909
@cjdlv8909 5 жыл бұрын
You did Peter, great job! Excellent analysis!
@jeffwads
@jeffwads 5 жыл бұрын
Peter is the master analyzer. Great job as usual.
@juggernaut4799
@juggernaut4799 5 жыл бұрын
WOW WOW WOW! What an endgame! And what an amazing analysis Peter! Thank you for this!
@clifton6210
@clifton6210 5 жыл бұрын
Great comment by Peter Svidler !
@adamrubinson6875
@adamrubinson6875 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter. I don’t understand that endgame much, but like you said, that’s a testament to how tricky and intricate that endgame is
@winchester6678
@winchester6678 5 жыл бұрын
Wow 52 minutes
@los1wochos
@los1wochos 5 жыл бұрын
You are the best, Peter.
@doncar9
@doncar9 4 жыл бұрын
A brilliant analysis Peter.
@kamon9339
@kamon9339 5 жыл бұрын
"Live show" and "the mashine" are the key words here :D
@kennethlovering1454
@kennethlovering1454 5 жыл бұрын
Dante Alighieri, the greatest Italian poet wrote, 800 years ago: "Nei mezzo del cammin di nostra vita, mi ritroval per una selva oscura, che la diritta via era smarriata" - Midway upon the journey of our life I found myself within a forest dark, for the straightforward pathway had been lost": the two contestants are sinking into a sort of depressing immobilism. Neither seems to be able to force a mistake or to outplay the other. chessclub.com/article/world-championship-match-2018
@ragnorak56
@ragnorak56 5 жыл бұрын
In the press conference they where told Bh4 was winning and both players STILL didn't see why it was winning.
@totalpwnership
@totalpwnership 5 жыл бұрын
And instructively, GM Ian Rogers who brought it to their attention, was also unable to give the concrete variation.
@adilsozer6332
@adilsozer6332 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Magnus and Fabi for this wonderful game, which shows us there is still hope for human chess.
@JohnSmithEx
@JohnSmithEx 5 жыл бұрын
Objectively this was an objective analysis by Mr Peter Objectively Svidler! :-)
@quagapp
@quagapp 5 жыл бұрын
I think the endgame is almost impossible to understand: the losing moves idea and Zugzwang are well known but there is always the feeling that there is some hidden move...
@vaibhavdlxit1050
@vaibhavdlxit1050 5 жыл бұрын
This endgame is so crazy for anyone..
@musicfromtoronto
@musicfromtoronto 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis. Thanks, Peter!
@winningtechnique1849
@winningtechnique1849 5 жыл бұрын
Hats off to Magnus for holding this. The number of variations and their complexity is insane.
@lucagandossi7069
@lucagandossi7069 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Peter for your analysis! Much appreciated!! :-)
@bobdeniro9
@bobdeniro9 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Peter, great stuff and great stamina! :)
@theosis101
@theosis101 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis!
@arnieus866
@arnieus866 5 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as usual. I know you are exhausted because I am. These guys must have titanium nerves to play a game like this with so much at stake. It is too bad that one of them will have to lose this match.
@Kth4life
@Kth4life 5 жыл бұрын
SImply the best Peter
@WilliamSchill
@WilliamSchill 5 жыл бұрын
Peter is the best commentator!
@taiyibureau9963
@taiyibureau9963 5 жыл бұрын
5:22 Computer says no!
@mapifisher
@mapifisher 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@fsr1960
@fsr1960 5 жыл бұрын
After your recommendation 40...Nxa2 (instead of Caruana's 40...Ne4+), can White hold with 41.Ba7 Nc3 42.Nd1?
@20thcenturyremnant
@20thcenturyremnant 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Wasn't game 6 of Fischer-Spassky a masterpiece too ?
@BattleslashX
@BattleslashX 5 жыл бұрын
Best game of all time
@peteralainszpiriev4750
@peteralainszpiriev4750 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Svidler what do You think about the level of this match definetly not Capablanca-Alekhine, Karpov- Kasparov -but where is this it among great matches? I personally think this is the stangest match so faar (except Lasker-Schlrchter) but still very high level.Without your extremly very high level comment would be even more strange. Thx! Well perhaps one become clear neither id these great players are (very) similar to Bobby Fischer or to Paul Morphy or to Mikhail Botvinnik. Still your and Grischuk's comments are real genius. From Budapest.
@filippo2769
@filippo2769 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter!! By the way... just an honorable mention of Lawrence Trent bashing?
@janetoss
@janetoss 5 жыл бұрын
Great. Thank you
@RubenHogenhout
@RubenHogenhout 5 жыл бұрын
Ng1! Great!
@peteralainszpiriev4750
@peteralainszpiriev4750 5 жыл бұрын
I understood that Mr.Carlsen is a genius, stil 4.Nd3 is really a very strange move.I think Mr. Carlsen rather try the old 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.Qe2 similar like The great Paul Morphy or Boris Spassky played. About Mr. Carlsen: With his endgame technique, Mr. Carlsen perhaps can do a lot. Sill in the match so far Mr. Caruana (from Italy!) looks like stabile as a rock and for reason I do not know either (as me from Makedon) I simply can not make anything against Italy. For me Caruana is Italian from Sain Louis. The result: Two simpatic players. The devil in the details as even the greatest Alekhine told once. Not easy. Russia knows most about chess but chess is really very complicated. Even Lasker played the line proposed above,because with great endgame technique this looks is promising. Its too simoke and perhaps for a genius át first sight "too simple" I think Fabiano should be ready for this line.
@vahangood5999
@vahangood5999 5 жыл бұрын
Title should be like this: Carlsen - Caruana, the Mission Impossible Game. 😎
@zifircin1797
@zifircin1797 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously I am just some patzer compared to these players, but I still think magnus needs to reconsider his white repertoire going forward. Even if he is trying to get to the tiebreaks, playing timidly is not necessarily the best way to go about it.
@swaginthebanklefty
@swaginthebanklefty 5 жыл бұрын
Kamelpasa I think he probably knows that- we probably won’t see e4 again, Nf3 and d4 from here on out
@GooTube3110
@GooTube3110 5 жыл бұрын
Rowan Foxley e4 is his main stuff. He should try e4 e5 Bc4 Nf6 d3 to avoid the petrov
@swaginthebanklefty
@swaginthebanklefty 5 жыл бұрын
GooTube3110 I understand his reportoire, but there are 2 major detriments in playing 2 Bc4 and d3- your already making a slight concession- Black is somewhat close to equality and 2. Fabi surely has prepped against the Bishops opening, knowing Magnus might try to play anti Petroff stuff. Magnus played the Reti against Vishy in their matches, he could also go for some anti theory d4 lines.
@davidfranklin5426
@davidfranklin5426 5 жыл бұрын
Magnus famously played 1 e4 e5 2 Bc4 against Fabi at the 2014 Sinquefield Cup and lost with White.
@THEBOYDALEK
@THEBOYDALEK 5 жыл бұрын
Hang on he has played all 3 pawns opening with e4 d4 and c4 lol, what more do you want?
@10freekie2
@10freekie2 5 жыл бұрын
King will get in corner if bishop f3 so i guess thats why black is winning
@johnkom2339
@johnkom2339 5 жыл бұрын
That is unreal analysis. Fantastic job. Too bad Fabi couldn't find the winning line though.
@edrash1
@edrash1 5 жыл бұрын
No one would
@MrArbitrageur
@MrArbitrageur 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ravivaradhan4956
@ravivaradhan4956 5 жыл бұрын
GM Svidler is an amazing commentator. He is so honest about his understanding of the position, when he could easily make dogmatic/definitive statements due to his stature as a preeminent super GM.
@mastrake
@mastrake 5 жыл бұрын
And yet he didn't see the mate in 38.
@russianburger
@russianburger 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your late evening efforts Peter
@DeidaraC5
@DeidaraC5 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I can't believe the amount of details put into this analysis. And the game deserves it. This is the first time I watch Svidler comment on a game, just wanted to say thank you for you effort, it really opened my eyes to all the possibilities.
@archana1461
@archana1461 5 жыл бұрын
7 hours + 1 hour of analysis, have a great respect for you. Hope you become world champion one day
@ViSylVs
@ViSylVs 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing game and unbelievable ending and winning variation. Great analysis as always Peter!
@rabranch32
@rabranch32 5 жыл бұрын
More proof of what I have stated before, Peter Svidler is the Bobby Fischer of chess commentators!
@haroldwhitney6130
@haroldwhitney6130 5 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic game. Really high level chess. Fabiano's play was very strong, and I find it incredible that Magnus successfully held this position. I can't imagine the level of pressure that Magnus was feeling during the endgame. This was a great great game.
@boxingjerapah
@boxingjerapah 5 жыл бұрын
Great work, sir! Ng1 is insane!
@hq3473
@hq3473 5 жыл бұрын
I think a (very strong) human can solve this if given it a study "black to play and win" and several days of time....
@boxingjerapah
@boxingjerapah 5 жыл бұрын
Yep - the "black to play and win" would ease it considerably. Not enough for me of course, but considerably ;)
@nikpredom7095
@nikpredom7095 5 жыл бұрын
Thx for your efforts Peter. Very enjoyable both the stream & your analysis
@akaRicoSanchez
@akaRicoSanchez 5 жыл бұрын
You know that end game will be in many "Impossible chess puzzles" books!
@ramyfarrag7034
@ramyfarrag7034 5 жыл бұрын
From what I see so far. Magnus is taking Caruana in early end games where he plays an equal end game and waits for small inaccuracy or even mistake and capitalize and win. And if they draw then good he keeps the title.
@aslanaslan5428
@aslanaslan5428 5 жыл бұрын
Ramy Farrag That is a good point. Magnus does not need to do anything too adventurous unless Caruana somehow gets a win. If all games would be ties the challenge moves to rapid chess which is more of Carlsens domain than Caruanas.
@ramyfarrag7034
@ramyfarrag7034 5 жыл бұрын
@@aslanaslan5428 Yep!
@cs8112
@cs8112 5 жыл бұрын
Another late night tour de force by the perennially entertaining and overly-modest Peter Svidler who is far and away the most perceptive, instructive and lucid commentator/analyst of top-level chess in our times. Anyone from 1800 to 2800 FIDE is going to benefit from a Svidler game analysis, especially if as a low- to mid-level player such as myself you are prepared to rewind and go back over some of the critical points and variations he brings to light. Even if you are a not a particularly keen chess player, you can nevertheless still marvel at his unjustifiably long and grammatically elaborate English language sentence constructions and his unwavering penchant for the deployment of entirely unnecessary double - and when in full flow, triple and perhaps even higher order - negative clauses. Meanwhile, the pairing of Peter with Alexander Grischuk (who joins, to add to the ambiance, over skype) on chess24’s Carlsen vs. Caruana 2018 live coverage must surely be both the most seriously high-powered and yet most hilarious combination to be let loose on a world chess championship match to date. For any chess player possessing even an ounce of a sense of humour and/or a desire to learn something about the game, it should be considered - Peter might say - something not to be missed.
@etielrincon
@etielrincon 5 жыл бұрын
The machine suggests that objectively this was a great analysis
@pawelvono
@pawelvono 5 жыл бұрын
respect sir!
@cederalloo6322
@cederalloo6322 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, do you think Carlsen would have spotted the mate in 31 in Caruana's place?
@matthewsmith3085
@matthewsmith3085 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Peter, wonderful analysis as always.
@sayan64
@sayan64 5 жыл бұрын
With all due respect Peter, At 38:17 after Nf4 white shldnot play Bc4 white shld play Bc2 and hold the position. If ... Bc4 then Bc3. White shld play h6 (which loses eventually) or Kh6 (defending the pawn) Now Kh6 Be1, Kh7 Bh4. h6 is forced. Eventually black wins. So the correct move will be Bc2 instead of Bc4 as shown in analysis.
@MicheleGatto74
@MicheleGatto74 5 жыл бұрын
Grazie per la bellissima analisi, te ne siamo molto grati.
@ignotasanimum
@ignotasanimum 4 жыл бұрын
"Non machine people will make quite bad mistakes in that endgame" (Svidler, Peter) I think you're more on the camp of "machine people" Mr Svidler ;)
@sid7607
@sid7607 5 жыл бұрын
In the position at 46:14 if Bf3 Ng3 Bg4, how does black make any progress? white never has to push h6
@Qbabxtra
@Qbabxtra 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone give this man a proper microphone?? The sound shatters everytime he speaks slightly above normal.
@davidtrottier7066
@davidtrottier7066 5 жыл бұрын
If fabi found that win, he would deserve the championship by default.
@essaessa6889
@essaessa6889 5 жыл бұрын
i loved this analysis ... i did not understant most of it ... and i dont know why but ..... i feel good about myself when i hear Peter saying he was confused about some of the positions ... :)
@pompeyblues
@pompeyblues 5 жыл бұрын
a fantastic game, shows how chess can change from paint drying to the other. I liked when you say "...from a humble position [beginnings]", i am reminded of Gruschucks' webcam in a dead-mans coffin anecdote during the live coverage :D very very funny and true for that moment during the game, but i glad to perservere with the watching though... he definitely came back to life, somewhat!
@promokc1
@promokc1 5 жыл бұрын
Even if containing some inaccuracies as the author suspects, a brilliant piece of analysis made right after a 7-hour hard work. Lots of thanks to Peter and Chess24.com! I was planning to switch between you, Nepo, Tkachev, the official site and other commentators, but it turns out that I just can't leave the fantastic Chess24 team for a single second.
@baumulrich
@baumulrich 5 жыл бұрын
thank you so much gm svidler for your in depth analysis of a fascinating end game! we all can appreciate how long your day was, so to wrap it up with such a gem is truly a gift! was looking forward to hearing you explain why exactly this position was lost. i have a feeling there will be a few books that feature this study.
@antonsquaredme
@antonsquaredme 5 жыл бұрын
TWEET MY COMMENT!
@TheGodfather-bm3ow
@TheGodfather-bm3ow 5 жыл бұрын
Love the interaction between you three . We applaud your resolve to hang in there in a 8 hour marathon of mind numbing analysis. Hopefully the second half of the match will have more fireworks.
@dongnalyac6219
@dongnalyac6219 5 жыл бұрын
Peter is sometimes bored on his analysis, just imagine this video is almost 1 hour plus the cuts,, but anyways for me this is the more complete analysis than other chess bloggers thank you for the upload...
@samuelwibowo3234
@samuelwibowo3234 5 жыл бұрын
There's nothing better than getting free analysis from a super GM. I clearly remembered that u said in the live show that u hoped for a good health. Wish u a good health for u and ur family.
@johnboardley
@johnboardley 5 жыл бұрын
The game's very best commentator. As brilliant and insightful (and self-deprecating) as always. Thanks!
@caucandyellow
@caucandyellow 5 жыл бұрын
There's probably 12 GMs who Svidler has tortured in his career who thumbed this video down. Because theres no other reason to do that tbh. Great analysis as always Peter!
@Sasha1234575
@Sasha1234575 5 жыл бұрын
Well, i am sure, -the oldest living GM in the world-Mr. Awerbach - is very happy to see this endgame for his books.
@bavarianwolf3806
@bavarianwolf3806 5 жыл бұрын
sry but when you play 4.knightd3 then you dont have to wonder when you have to fight for a draw since the beginning.. For me that was a blunder for a highlvlclass like this
@miomatteo
@miomatteo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter, you work is ENORMOUSLY appreciated! :)
@rawandhamid6264
@rawandhamid6264 5 жыл бұрын
the greatest analysis ever by most loved GM, thanks Peter.
@troutymctrouttrout3809
@troutymctrouttrout3809 5 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I've heard of the Bh4 line, thank you very much Peter!
@Mitch_Crane
@Mitch_Crane 5 жыл бұрын
PETER SVIDLER you're the MAN! Rock on
@quagapp
@quagapp 5 жыл бұрын
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