Swagkage vs Heavenly Control | Sakura vs Madara

[@Saintsrow1824]

Only 30 minutes and heavenly arguments are wayyyyy better than Afros and Kabukis

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

Yea

[@Saber23]

Because he was actually there to have a conversation thankfully and not just yell and insult people

[@ItsTokyolol]

Damn. Heavenly had a discussion with swag and did not know about this

[@SaberKami]

I wish they'd animate Sakura's light novel I heard she does some cool shit in it

[@marcus7984]

Same! I wish that for all novels. They have really cool information for the series!

[@Dan-qt4xb]

Nothing to suggest she can beat madars

[@marzman4]

​@@Dan-qt4xb if Tsunade could have killed him, and Sakura tank his truth seeking orb. Final valley Madara is nothing comparable to even his edo form since that version doesn't have hasi cells, ten tails, rinnegan.

[@grayearly3116]

At first i assumed this was completely outlandish, but after some thought, Idk about going through the susanoo and taking him out with a single punch, but i do believe she could get him in 2 hits minimum.

[@johnnyvirtues]

This is like a breath of fresh air compared to that Afro vid heavenly actually knows what he’s talking about and he makes the argument that most madara tards like myself would make

[@Dan-qt4xb]

This was sheet

[@SaucemanK]

thanks for the content

[@nateriver5s]

one thing that comes to my mind .. tsunade did punch edo madara and destroyed half of his body.. and after watching the other debade with afro six and the guys.. i guess they are trying to say that edo madara kinda stronger than valley of the end madara.. so we have sakura which ich waaaaaay the fuck stronger than tsunade and madara who let say relative to his edo version.. so theoratically speaking she could actually one shot him. plus after hearing the jigen punching sasuke argument.. it all make sense..

[@mehganjames4467]

ok Guys just commenting on the part where u asked if sakura can jump high on her own, well during the exam before the war, with Sakura, Ino and choji, sakura jumped considerably higher then anyone shown in the show when they were fighting the puppet user.

[@sageofpixelz]

Bait profile type shit

[@thatgamerguy6449]

15:58 uhhh that’s a bad argument Tsunade kept her seal going for how many years and after popping it against orochimaru she healed wounds caused by someone who couldn’t take on Naruto (vs neji level) Summoned her slug picked up a big sword and stabbed a big snake Then orochimaru catches her with his tongue and she says “can’t escape out of chakra” she pushes through and is able to beat orochimaru (who had half his chakra sealed away couldn’t use ninjutsu or move his arms )(which a stronger orochimaru loses to 4tail v2 naruto) 3-4 years later she uses it to heal the entire village And then 1-2 years later she uses and becomes strong enough to fight edo madara So I don’t think it matters how many years.

[@treysmith9371]

Tsunade is constantly taking from the chakra she stores to make herself look younger though. She’d be almost 80 years old without it

[@pcsheep3978]

Since when does heavenly debate lol?

[@trunks2505]

So many skips during this important conversation. Unfortunate, the convo was good enough where actual great points where made even going into the Boruto arc. Then towards the end it messed up more.

[@paul_particularlyunhappynut]

Cynth does swagkage not do that many discord debates often anymore? Finding public battles is kind of rare (for example if I type "swagkage vs" on youtube it'll usually just bring up his own videos and not the debates) Shame if so, cause that swag vs afro debate was fuckin hilarious

[@josephbooker259]

Swag vs afro would ha e been fine if kabuki's dumbass didn't show up

[@paul_particularlyunhappynut]

KZbin glitch, can't see the 1 reply. Can you repeat that?

[@josephbooker259]

@@paul_particularlyunhappynut I get that same glitch 😂 I said the swag and six vs afro and kabuki debate would have been fine if kabuki's dumbass wasn't there. Maybe replace kabuki with Seth and it would have been better for him

[@paul_particularlyunhappynut]

@@josephbooker259 yeah clownbuki was the one on that crackpipe, interrupting and shit Isn't seth like one of the strongest debater's there is? I would like to see swag and seth actually debate against eachother once though

[@josephbooker259]

@@paul_particularlyunhappynut Yea, that would be amazing. Both are beast debaters, and I would love to see them go at it

[@jaybronx98]

Do you have Seth and Clydes akatsuki vs espada video?

[@marcus7984]

Nope but I have a way you can watch it

[@marcus7984]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZTSf52qp7WXeKc

[@jaybronx98]

@@marcus7984 thanks🙏🏽💯

[@3cho787]

Idk i dont think this video should have been made. At least if youre trying to make a serious video. Cause Madara took out the Raikage with Genjutsu where as sasuke couldnt. Later on Sasuke takes out Sakura with Genjutsu. Madara would look at Sakura and the fight would be over.

[@buhehe2543]

Sasuke had MS against raikage and so6p Rinnegan against worn out Sakura why would you even compare that

[@3cho787]

@@buhehe2543 you really think she was worn out? What did she exactly do other than get a last hit in against kaguya?

[@buhehe2543]

@@3cho787 Sasuke uses genjutsu on her before Kaguya fight and if you say she didn't do anything in wa you just delusional

[@adamisaacpena]

I think they’re talking about Adult Sakura vs Valley of the End Madara. Adult Sakura is insane.

[@coin4898]

I wish the show made sakura do something by herself naruto sasuke kakashi all did good stuff, they even made naruto freaking replace kakashis eye, that was a literal slap in the face to sakura, why not have her unlock a new medical move to restroe lost limbs? Its like making sasuke suck ass at using his rinnegan, and then all of a sudden naruto gets a rinnegan and preforms infinitely better than sasuke does (the same sasuke who's trained to master it) but then sakura, its like the anime purposely makes her look bad, remember when she was supposed to stab obitos eye? In the manga they made madara appear almost as soon as she goes for the stab, in the anime they make her stand there and look like an idiot (they didnt even try to make it look like a quick time event) heck they probably made her save naruto a couple of times but decided to remove it just for her to look even worse in the anime

[@jonsolo7343]

She can already restore lost limbs

[@coin4898]

@jonsolo7343 I mean heal people in a better way than naruto did, they should have written her to be a far better healing than even tsunade capable of healing guy after gates

[@TroyDunaway]

Personally, I've always felt that Guy should have died from the gates. But I see what you are saying. If anybody should have been able to save Guy, it should have been Sakura.

[@SIRAJPRODUCTIONS]

When was this uploaded

[@marcus7984]

This year

[@AyeeShaad]

@@marcus7984 Last year

[@mr.effigy3885]

Swag got this

[@marcus7984]

You right

[@SIRAJPRODUCTIONS]

This ain’t really a debate though. More of a conversation

[@tonyvang5238]

Swage lost lol Heavenly Control's argument spot on.

[@JustThatGuy1]

What server is this?

[@daronarabemalicieux]

Valley of the end madara dog walks sakura so badly 💀

[@zazz_]

sakura blitzes so hard, be it eos shippuden or boruto sakura. madara be thinking on taking the grave lol

[@daronarabemalicieux]

@@zazz_ speed blitz? Ion even see her getting past kurama+a susanoo. Let’s not bring up the fact that madara could easily put her in a genjutsu

[@zazz_]

@@daronarabemalicieux what you see is just wrong lmao. sakura still blitzed kaguya. mf madara ain't seeing his ass beaten in a blitz cuz he doesn't have enough reaction time

[@daronarabemalicieux]

@@zazz_ she didnt blitz kaguya. She was already fighting naruto, sasuke and kakashi and was worn out completely. There was no way of her doing anything in that instance.

[@zazz_]

@@daronarabemalicieux she blitzed her tho , kaguya had byakugan active too which means she was on guard. she also evaded and dodged kaguya's arms, which were considered fast by naruto and sasuke , that alone violates all of fv alive madara's speed feats. he gets blitzed

[@anshumanrath6703]

Mmm...i want to see a ship between sakura and madara, I mean what if madara changed and zetsu's plan got foiled and sakura fell in love with madara

[@marcus7984]

Everyone knows Madara only loves Hashirama. Big strong wood man

[@anshumanrath6703]

@@marcus7984 😂😂indeed

[@anshumanrath6703]

@James Cooper I'm not saying madara would accept her proposal, i want her to simp for madara like she did sasuke madara's young body got revived as we can see from his hair and stuff as he was reborn with rinne tensei, his age is only a few months

[@rushpatriot2866]

You're weird bro

[@rushpatriot2866]

@@anshumanrath6703 he wanna watch reverse grooming. Bro I bet you have reddit and discord bruh you're weird

[@thabisomakgobatlou5596]

Wait since sakura is not as strong as ishiki but is stronger than tsunade who only broke the rib cage I fail to understand how she is breaking his full body susano and kaguya didn't see her seeing as she was moving up and sakura was in her blind spot and she is facing sasuke and Naruto that is not a coincidence

[@AyeeShaad]

First of all, you can’t prove Kaguya has a blind spot, only a Nejis is stated to have one. Second, why the FUCK do you think Madaras full body Susanoo is as strong as Sasukes? There is NOTHING at all ever shown or stated that even remotely leads to that conclusion. Madaras Susanoo is simply substantially weaker than Sasukes so it doesn’t take as much strength to break it. Third, Kaguya also has Sage mode which allows her to sense EVERYTHING in her surroundings. Meaning she knew Sakura was there and just couldn’t react because Sakura was too fast.

[@shinji136]

How would Sakura ever fit in a blind spot that's barely big enough for an arrow to fit in? Also you're legit trying to compare Sasuke's susanoo to Madara's LMAO

[@byungshin8773]

is this kabuki’s burner account? like seriously, watch the full debate of afro vs swag before asking such a dumbass question.

[@shreyansh4u594]

Whos madara whos sakura

[@hainguyn948]

Heavenly Madara (valley of the end), Swag Sakura (adult)

[@Lj-ov6zn]

So i went back and watched the kaguya fight anddd sakura really didnt hurt kaguya. The blood was coming from her arm where kakashi cut it off… also kaguya flew up into the punch to avoid getting trapped by naruto, sasuke, and kakashi. sakura also didnt blitz her in this scene as you see kaguya look up and recognize her before getting hit. Kakashi before the punch kamui’d away kaguys defenses in order to create openings for naruto and sasuke, forcing kaguya to run, completely focused on naruto and sasuke. Black zetsu also says that they are trapped. Zetsu also says constantly that narutos clones were very low on chakra so sakura having more than 2 heavily nerfed naruto clones at full power is impressive but doesn’t give her the strength to kill madara. Sakura would still one shot valley of the end madara, but shes not hitting him, definitely not full power.

[@omnipayne861]

Sakura in the manga panel knocked her horn and bruised her (mind you that Naruto's 9 rasenshuriken did nothing to her) while she did know Sakura was there she was unable to dodge her punch or counter

[@Lj-ov6zn]

@@omnipayne861 in the manga shes also trapped between naruto, sasuke, and kakashi. She had no choice but to go up and got hit by sakura. Also shes weakened by kakashi after he hits her with the kamui shuriken.

[@omnipayne861]

@@Lj-ov6zn kakashi was above Sakura, she kicked herself off his susanoo. And kaguya wasn’t weakened from the kamui, she regenerated it right away. She had cleared naruto and sauske so they weren’t an issue either.

[@Lj-ov6zn]

@@omnipayne861 she was on the run after getting hit by it , also she couldn’t have cleared them because they were on both sides and zetsu says shes trapped. we never see her regenerate the hit instantly as it switched to kakashi chasing her from below. The blood shown on panel was from kakashis hit not sakuras you can see on panel kaguyas wound. Sakura did bruise her, but she was weakened and distracted. Also sasuke literally states “shes less focused because shes scared of being sealed”. So she was actually off guard when it came to other people besides naruto and sasuke attacking her. Kakashi kamuis away all of kaguyas options aswell. Zetsu states, “Theres no time to escape into a new dimension.”

[@omnipayne861]

@@Lj-ov6zn I just reread the chapter, while kaguya was still regenerating her arm that doesn’t mean she was weakened. She is immortal and she didn’t care when naruto chopped her arm off earlier either. Kaguya was focused on naruto and sauske but we know that she saw Sakura coming towards her because she has a byakugan and we see a ! Above her head. This is when she was above naruto and sauskes head and was contemplating which dimension she should travel too next so we can’t say she was off guard here. You can also see Sakura jumping off of kakashis disappearing susanoo.

[@lillith7257]

Man this debate was so messy both people were all over the place Also, no, no she is not doing that. She doesn't hit that hard.

[@tonyvang5238]

Swage is irrelevant lol

[@shinji136]

He isn't. And you have no logical way to counter his arguments.

[@iNC0GNEGRO]

@@shinji136 out of every anime character out there, why Shinji??

[@Dan-qt4xb]

@@shinji136all debunked

[@shinji136]

@@Dan-qt4xb None of them were debunked.