MACHINING A 21 TOOTH SPLINED SHAFT . SHOP MADE TOOLING IN USE !

A Long Shaft Is Machined With A 21 tooth Spline Each End .
All of the recently made shop tooling is used .

[@dlstanf2]

The sign of a good craftsman is you make this look easy.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@joell439]

So impressive how everything comes together and NOTHING is trivial - Thanks Max 👍👍😎👍👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@georgedreisch2662]

Y’all giving me flashbacks Max, for remembering what a different world it seems you’ve entered, working that far down the lathe bed, even on a familiar machine. Thanks for sharing. Cheers.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@wallbawden5511]

Max yet another great job and thanks for letting us come along with you A very wise man told me that with all good jobs its all in the set up think it was you 80 percent set up 20 percent turning and you showed us it all thank you for showing the how to as well as the work weighting on part two Cheers Max

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@myradavis2599]

Great to see all those different shop made tools coming together! Well planned and we'll executed😊

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@TedRoza]

G'day Max. This is one of the best setups I have seen with all the various alignment tools, like the Spider, Deviding Head, tailstock, etc. Very Professional Presentation from start to finish . Waiting for final finish.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Ted 👍

[@melgross]

Nice calendar, Max.

[@mjm7187]

No shop is complete without one!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , that it is ! 👍

[@GeoffWestbrook]

Max, thank you for your instructional and entertaining videos.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@bruceanderson9461]

Yes - setup is 95% of the job! You did well.

[@joell439]

I would even venture to say it may have been as high as 99.2% 👍😎👍 I'm curious how one properly charges for all the setup required ? The customer is just standing there thinking he just put a spline on the end. How hard can that be????

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

It is , set up is most important ! 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Set up cost is an educated guess based on how long it should take . 👍

[@paulhammond7489]

Poetry in motion Max! Can see how all the shop made tools came together for this project. At that length, I'm assuming that this is not a 'tractor' part this time around, especially with the material certs ;)

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , the rest of that saying goes '' we have seen the poetry , now let us see some motion '' ! Off some sort of farming equipment . Cheers 👍

[@hersch_tool]

That machine makes me feel all tingly... 😍😍😍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

It's a nice machine . Wish it was brand new ! 👍

[@624Dudley]

Wow, lots of planning in this job! I’m impressed at your thoroughness, what with the test run, the OD of the sacrificial piece, stuff like that 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Did not want to chance anything . 👍

[@StuartsShed]

Thanks for the detailed explanation on setting up the cutter on center - great tip on checking it. 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@mjm7187]

Excellent setup tips, camera work and editing Max. Thanks for bringing us along. best regards, mjm

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@jonsworkshop]

Stretching your capacity with this one Max, splines look good. "This microwave has got some issues" lol, you're not wrong 😂😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Jon . Good to stretch the limits ! Lol , you will see how it really got stretched in part 2 ! 👍

[@edsmachine93]

Nice work Max.👍 The length of the shaft sure makes it challenging. Thanks for sharing.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@deanmoser5907]

You make it look so easy Max. I think I can do that then I have a go and stuff it up, but I know the only way to get there is to keep trying. I have learnt so much from your videos and I am getting better.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@mauricesteer8023]

Thanks Max, stumbled accross your channel a while a go and im totally hooked. loved this series on how you methodically solved this problem. Stay safe and keep em comming if you have time. youre passing on valuable info to the less skilled, even a backyard hacker like myself.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@tas32engineering]

Enjoyed the Camino about sausage rolls. Also let my mind stray with exacting machining. Nice workshop tree threatening mine. Great preso.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@PrinceArif007]

Nice good working video and helpful

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good job friend Max..thanks for your time

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks Mate . 👍

[@acmemachining]

Set-up looks to be working great. Thanks for sharing Max.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@pingwax.]

Everything about your projects and explanations are educational. I'm always interested in how long material is handled; it was great to see how you go through your setup! The tips in this and previous videos for checking the center line of cutters has also been valuable. Cheers!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@terrycannon570]

Great job Max. I also commend you for the picture/Calander you have on the wall. There was a time that would be considered distasteful or offensive to women. Hell, now I just want to make sure that everyone knows that I am proud to be a Man.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol . Yes , you never know now days ! 👍

[@RicktheRecorder]

Ludmiller turning in a solid performance!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr3200]

Great work as usual Max Cheers Chris

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . Thanks 👍

[@AaronEngineering]

Amazing work Max. Loved the set up from start to finish. The oil drip feed from the tank great idea. Beats using a paint brush 👍. Cheers Aaron

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks Aaron 👍

[@barrycaudle9926]

Good to see what you made the previous tooling for. Olga is getting a real work out. I used to know a guy who headed up a company importing Russian machines back in the day.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@grahamsengineering.2532]

Hey Max, wild looking set up there. I see you have a Spainish Meca Rotary Table same as mine, mines a 12". I need to do the same as you and fit Indexing Plates when I have time. Love your work.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Graham . Was not sure on the make of the table , their is no tag or name . Only a number stamped in . 👍

[@paulcurtis2779]

Wow. . a lot of pre-work to ensure it's correct before cutting the actual part. . amazing ! !

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Just to be sure , hate doing stuff twice ! 👍

[@CaptainSwoop]

I really enjoyed that episode and learned a lot. Thanks mate!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@user-oi8tg3dq7t]

Great machining!! Nice calendar in the background.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@noodles7011]

I make splines all the time with a 4th axis CNC. This set up is great. cheers

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . 👍

[@Randysshop]

Very nice Max. As they say preparation equals results, surprised the see the nut on mandrel was LH thread. Cheers

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . l/h is not uncommon on arbors . Cheers 👍

[@somebodyelse6673]

Holy smokes, around 11:30ish the hula dancing spacers on that cutter arbor are kinda hypnotic. I thought it might be just a lot of clearance between the spacers and the arbor, but it looks like the chamfers vary that much as well? Handsome job on the setup, everything you need to get the job done right.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . I think the chamfers & o/d are not concentric with the bores ! 👍

[@DonDyarprecision]

That is an amazing set up!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Don . 👍

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

That was a lot of tooling to make. I hope you make more than one shaft. I know you can use it on other jobs too.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

It will get used on other machines . 👍

[@jrd02wilcox]

Great video.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Just fitted , with the door open ! 👍

[@daveharriman2756]

Amazing set ups, fascinating to watch, love it!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@ianmoone2359]

Keen to know what the long shaft is for Max? As always, thoroughly enjoyable video of a complex job made to look “easy”. Once you see it, it makes sense of buying 6 jaw chuck & building angle plates and flat extension plate & lathe spider etc. A LOT of work & pre planning to get there in the end, but if (when) you have to do another long shaft spline job, your already tooled up for it. 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

For something off a bit of farming equipment . 👍

[@ianmoone2359]

@@swanvalleymachineshop Cheers. 👍

[@johnyoung3103]

I have only a 13 x 40 lathe I could not begin to handle your big ones. Great videos.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes you could , wait for part 2 ! 👍

[@alandawson2813]

Another awesome video video young max, from kiwi land

[@RicktheRecorder]

Not quite. Kangaroos.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@Warped65er]

Great vid. Max. Thx.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@TheJohndeere466]

I once milled splines in a long shaft maybe 12' long. I put 2 v blocks on a horizontal mill and clamped them down. Then I put the shaft in the v blocks close to where the splines were. Then I set a dividing head on the mill next to it and adjusted the table to proper height. I chucked the end of the shaft in the dividing head and then clamped the other end in the v blocks. When I cut the splines the dividing head just slid back and forth on the other mill. I would loosen the clamps holding the shaft to the v blocks every time I indexed the shaft to the next spline and it worked well. The dividing head was heavy enough to index the shaft without being clamped down.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Any port in a storm . Cheers 👍

[@markneedham4606]

@ 11:39 Even cutting gears, a great method of checking centre.😊

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@MattysWorkshop]

Great job mate

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Matty 👍

[@RalfyCustoms]

G'day Max, cracking one as always mate, nice to see you use a test piece, thats something I do, but don't often see the practice on here, as others have said, it's great seeing all the shop made tooling used to great effect Thanks for sharing buddy, hope you're keeping well Edit: F@ckin microwave #! 😂😂😂😂

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , Cheers Mate 👍👍👍

[@captcarlos]

It’s nice to know your set up is good to go before you cut into expensive stock.. Don’t get that chance often, Just there’s the stock, don’t eff it. Hahaaa, good set up there, like the mill.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers . Yes , a rare occasion , i did not want to risk it ! 👍

[@frankerceg4349]

Thank you Max!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@cyclebuster]

my boring bar holder is also completed today. I love this stuff. Watch every video! You had to raise your steady rest, I had to lower mine! And when I lock my mill knee it absolutely changes the setting. Are you going to harden the splines? I have to thread both ends of a 1 1/2in x 10ft bar in the next couple days, so i will be building a set of rollers.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers . No , do not have to harden . Pre hard 4140 is already hard enough . 👍

[@mikewestbrook2319]

Thanks Maximus 😁

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@highlandermachineworks5795]

What are you using for cameras? Your videos are so much clearer beyond what you're showing. The background is crisp.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

My mobile ! A Samsung Galaxy S25 i think it is . I have a gopro hero 10 , but the phone is way better . 👍

[@highlandermachineworks5795]

@swanvalleymachineshop Wow. Thank you. I have an s20 available for use but, yours is way better. I have been looking into the dji: Action 3 and Action 4 cameras. But if I'm eligible for a free phone upgrade maybe I'll get an S25. Thanks again!!!

[@theessexhunter1305]

Max the part is so long it will be time for your tea when you get to the tailstock. Nice work altb from the UK

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers , Tea with toast & marmalade ! 👍

[@mikestevens8046]

This vid has the meat AND the potatoes Thanks for sharing

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Looking good Max. This is a prime example of why customers don't understand the time involved in making a part. They think you should be able to whip it out in no time cause it looks so simple. Also where can I get some of those snazzy purple pants? 😀

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Tom . They used to be navy blue ! 👍

[@carlislesmachineshop431]

Not many shops have the ability to do that job, looks nice, hopefully makes the months morgage payment.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Just lucky my rotary table has a 65mm bore ! 👍

[@advil000]

No joke... "Hey, I need a near-interference fit spline shaft made out of this... (whips out a 4m long noodle of a bar)"

[@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc]

And all this started with your Grandad making wheel barrow axles in his shed........................................ All the best mate!!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Dad making wheelbarrow axles in Grandads shed !!! 👍

[@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc]

@@swanvalleymachineshopI was nearly right! It's still a great story!

[@user-fy2tm2jg6c]

Why did you need the 3 jaw chuck in the tail stock before using the steady rest to put in the center?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

It aligned the shaft on centre . 👍

[@anthonycash4609]

Max I see you must have skipped school the day they were teaching how to color and stay within the lines. Just kidding mate , when you were trying to mark the blue lines that funny though came to mind..😜

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , it was a tad awkward ! 👍

[@willemvantsant5105]

Hi Max, is that arbor nut LH or are my eyes playing tricks on me? Do the splines have to be online, if so will make an interesting setup. Is the 4140 prehard bar ground finish?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , the splines are clocked & 4140 prehard ground . 👍

[@williamfissell1694]

Max, when you were checking the runout on the cutter, the collars looked like they were all over the place. Are they just a loose fit on the arbor?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

They are a neat fit on the arbor , but the o/d & chamfers are a bit off . 👍

[@simpleman283]

👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍👍👍

[@barrygerbracht5077]

Is there a key on the cutter arbor that I didn't see? Seems you are running it backwards and that it would potentially uncscrew the nut. (I'm sure you are fully aware of this, I'm just curious).

[@ianmoone2359]

I suspect the video camera frame rate, coupled with the rotational speed of the cutter creates the impression it’s spinning backwards. Seems to happen on a great many milling machine videos & causes viewers to scratch their heads & wonder “I wonder why he’s running it backwards?” 🤷‍♂️ It’s all an optical delusion I tells ya’s. 😜😂😂😉

[@barrygerbracht5077]

The cutter is installed to turn counter clockwise which would loosen the right hand thread on the arbor nut. @@ianmoone2359

[@barrygerbracht5077]

I should clarify, by "backwards" I meant with the machine in reverse, not with the teeth cutting the wrong way. The cutter is installed upside down so it spins counter clockwise when looking down at it. Just to make sure I wasn't confusing something I checked again and saw there is a key in the arbor hence there is no issue with unscrewing the nut. @@ianmoone2359

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Has a keyway . 👍

[@RicktheRecorder]

BTW, surely Aussies don't talk about 'the shop', which is where you buy stuff. What you are in is a workshop, and a very fine one at that.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Lol , sometimes i call it the workshop ! 👍

[@highlandermachineworks5795]

Americans call it a shop as well. You're in the minority buddy.

[@RicktheRecorder]

@@highlandermachineworks5795 I am aware of that - that's why I made the comment. Australian culture/language is mainly British-derived, so he was obviously pandering to a US audience.

[@highlandermachineworks5795]

@RicktheRecorder pandering? I doubt it. Are you easily offended or something? Seems like it hurt your feelings to be stretching it like that. Can't you just appreciate the mans skills, and his dedication to the trade?

[@ShevillMathers]

More Americanism’s are creeping into our Australian lingo, it’s a workshop and we measure ‘from’ not ‘off of’, we change our engine oil, we don’t ‘change out’ our engine oil, we give it a polish, not give it a ‘polish up’, and so it goes, we use fewer words.

[@be007]

you pay big money for a gear cutter but I have never seen one on KZbin on other channels that was seriously con centric and even cutting? If they only cut on a few teeth, you might as well make a gear cutter from HSS yourself. is a lot cheaper. nice video max. cheers ben.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . Yes , they never run true ! 👍

[@alasdairhamilton1574]

Problem with the microwave oven, lost its ding 🛎️? 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lost more than it's bloody ding ! 👍

[@TangentJim]

Max - Rotating the Shaft 180° to double check the center height of the form cutter was a Slick Move . I'm watching you. one bad move and I'll be on you like stink on shit. Four Thumbs up -- Jim

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , no worries Jim . 👍

[@glenncpw]

The last spline I cut, used the rule between the cutter and the victim as soon as I had the rule 90 degrees - she was right. Maybe I am a bit of a rough nut.. Good onya

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers . Some cutters the tip profile is a bit off to use that method . 👍

[@danflemmer1999]

RE: One tooth. . . I have one cutter that I think actually uses 4 or 5 teeth (lol). The rest could as well be fly cutters!(grin)

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , i wish they made them better at times ! 👍

[@michaelcothran4064]

Termonology, I've always heard them called catheads, but Spider is OK with me

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , there are a few variations . 👍

[@billdoodson4232]

Jeez! Talk about measure 4 times and cut once. Mind you, I have done that and still got it wrong. 😢

[@simpleman283]

🤣

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , i have to replace the stock if i screw up ! 👍

[@tapwater9843]

You wish you had some long shafting to play with.😂

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , i do ! 👍

[@RutherfordRyan1]

My knee locks up all the time….. Gives me the shits…..

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

My Bridgeport used to do that , until i scraped the top of the column . 👍

[@jdmccorful]

Loving every minute of this project. Nice work, thanks.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@GraemeStephens]

all that to escape a bit of Housework ! ??

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yep ! I have a stove to install ! 👍