Swapping Hard Drives for SSD in a Synology NAS.

[@Joe4USMC]

The A in NAS is pronounce the same as the A in Apple. Like "NASA" without the trailing A. NOS is nitrous oxide.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

I believe you, but how is there a correct pronunciation for an acronym?

[@MrNside]

@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Rule of thumb is to reference the word the letter represents. While "Attached" is often mispronounced like "uh-tach", the correct pronunciation is short A.

[@arigornstrider]

Nitrous Oxide ftw! Also, thanks for the vid.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

haha, fine NAS as in "NASCAR"

[@Krautgamer]

What a crazy timing. I just googled this YESTERDAY. Thank you for posting.

[@jeremyscherbert7336]

The answer why failure is not a huge concern is raid 1... and backups. Please don't forget your backups. Otherwise in raid1 if a file gets corrupted, you just have 2 copies of that corruption.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

@@jeremyscherbert7336 what prevents the backups of the raid from being corrupted too?

[@jeremyscherbert7336]

@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE you have copies over time delay, either multiple actual full copies, or snapshots that record the changes from one version to the next. File corrupted today, you get the version from yesterday. My standard is usually daily versions for a week, 1 weekly for a month, 1 monthly for a year. Power supply causes a voltage spike takes out both drives, you grab the copy from the night before. You have 2 HHDs now that aren't used, turn them into a backup target over USB or network.

[@jeremyscherbert7336]

@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE if very critical, you can also back up to the cloud or VPN to a friend's house. Protects against house fire. Worst case, once a month, copy your NAS to one of those HHDs, and leave it at a friend's house and pick the old one back up.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

@@jeremyscherbert7336 I would assume there are settings in there to send itself a backup once weekly or monthly onto those spinning drives. I should look into that.

[@jeremyscherbert7336]

@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE yep, at least with qnap which is very similar. Attach a USB drive or target an SMB share and say backup here

[@rustyshaklford5178]

Omg.. say it correctly lol

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

IM SORRY! I said it wrong once, and then just repeated myself the whole time. To be fair - I think there are only "common" pronunciations for acronyms, not "correct" ones :).

[@bmwmeister24]

The DS223j NAS have only 1 Gbit/s Ethernet Network Port. The Spinning Drive fast enough for the Network Port and a lot cheaper than SSD? I see no sense? Even the fan is running noisy.

[@fullyelectric]

@spacedesignwarehouse wait if i remember correctly years ago i had two 2TB drive and when i upgraded to 4TB drivers all i did was remove the two drive in the unit and put in two new 4TB drivers, close up the unit and started it up, made a new RAID1 volume on the 4TB driver, then plug in one of the old 2TB drive at the external USB and it mounted, then i just copied from the old to the new, just one copy I remember doing.

[@fullyelectric]

Man now you got me thinking, i had Synology dual and quad for so many years, i remember one time i just remove one of the internal drive and put in a bigger one, the first value i think just gave some error that its in some degraded state but i was still able to setup a basic value on the new drive and copy everything over, i think i did was you done years ago just a little differently with two stop copying that i felt took too long, and i got the copy process down to one, anyways i am thinking of getting 8TB next just spending $500+ each is still a bit much.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

@@fullyelectric Well your comment just sent mew back into my garage to make sure Im not crazy! For SOME reason, I dont know what they changed or why they would have done it, but when I connect one of the hard drives I took out of the NAS to the back of the NAS it says "Unable to mount the partition 3 of external device USB Disk 1. Go to External Devices for more information". Then over at External Devices it says "File system type not supported". I dont know, maybe because it was encrypted and now Im attaching it externally its as if someone stole my drive and is trying to get my data manually?

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

I do have the file system formatted as btrfs - instead of exfat or ntfs, so maybe that cant be mounted externally? I also cant mount it to my mac or my PC.. Ill bet its the disk format. Ill bet if you format using one of the windows systems it would work like you said.

[@fullyelectric]

@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSEthey 100% changed something my old volumes was not encrypted just basic Linux volumes, this means my next upgrade it going to be a PITA as i have over 3TB of data already

[@meme40s]

Your pronunciation of NAS as NOS made me leave this video. This isn't fast and furious brother.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

@@meme40s interesting. I guess you’re right. I always thought Linus’ Canadian was coming out when he says “Neah-s”

[@WorldFamousUnfluencer]

Seems like your cuts between sentences are our of sync or lagging. The "current clip" hangs around with your mouth not moving while the audio from the new scene already started to play. Super weird and difficult to watch. Too bad.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

That is correct. It’s called a ‘j-cut.’ I over use it a bit as a stylistic choice. My apologies.

[@WorldFamousUnfluencer]

@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE No need for apology. I thought it was a glitch.

[@Back2Back.P]

Thank you.. will maybe try that on my synology too… But.. I thought ssds aren’t the best solution for saving files on a Nas…

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

I dont really see a downside. They start up instantly, unlike waiting for hard drives to spin up. They're silent, cooler, and wayyyyyyyyy faster for random access. What would be the downside? They might fail faster, but they're pretty cheap to swap.

[@trevorhart4120]

I’ve had a SATA ssd in my Synology for 3+ years with no issues

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

@@trevorhart4120I like the sound of that!!

[@mickeynissan9887]

That really used to be the case on older gens of SSDs, those had a REALLY limited read/write per-cell cycle limit and were very expensive. Modern SSDs are resilient enough and cheap enough to make this a viable option nowadays, your run of the mill Samsung 870 2TB should support 1,200 TB Written to it before it kicks the bucket - that's a lot of writing for 120$ off of Best Buy.

[@Back2Back.P]

@ okay. Is there something to look out for … tlc qlc mlc etc

[@rammes1]

anyone know how many times SSD was said?

[@MacGyver0]

Unfortunately, your transition path is incorrect. Just replace one of the hdd with ssd (should be the same size or greater). Then, resilver raid-1, then, replace second hdd and resilver again. Regarding ssd's especially your Chinese, they absolutely can wear out at the same day. (dont use ssd's with similar health, and from same batch)

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

Unfortunately you can’t do that. The Synology NAS will now accept different media types (hdd + ssd) in the same pool. That’s what triggered me to make this video. I thought it would be a quick swap process.

[@atenleggedninja]

Say NOS one more time

[@MrNside]

Never heard of Silicon Power SSDs? While they aren't Samsung, they've been around for about a decade, and are definitely not on the same level as the unpronounceable one-off so called brands of SSDs you find on Amazon these days. I would put them at or above Adata when it comes to brand reliability.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

Well thats great news! Over the next year or so theyll be given a real proper test in this NAS.. Ill sing their praise if when I upgrade to something larger next year I basically never have to think about them at all.

[@Mynamehear]

Don't do this. Synology clearly optimized these boxes for spinners. I get better performance with spinners in raid 1 or 10 than ssds in the same device in any config.

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

That simply can not be true, unless you have your drives set to be spinning at all times. But still, in the odd case where three TVs are all trying to stream a 4k tv show at the same time in seperate rooms, it definitely wouldnt work with my spinning drives and works just fine with the SSDs.

[@petraarkanian7841]

Until crypto goes to the moon and us earth men are stuck trying to afford an ssd anyway...

[@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE]

Once it does, perhaps I’ll swap out for NVME!

[@jamess1787]

WHO CARES ABOUT THE PRONOUCIATION. Cant we all agree that english sucks? Pterodactyl and Whole have something in common, An arbitraily silent letter. Why are Red and Read pronounced the same in one conext and different in another? Yolo.