Sweden's NEW 6th Generation Fighter Jet CRUSHES the Competition!

[@21stcenturybohemian]

Yet more misleading AI generated and narrated content? This garbage is getting thick on KZbin.

[@TomGerritsen-o9r]

If I don't see a host I tend to take these videos as not reliable.

[@a.m.9357]

KZbin is being ruined by bots, AI-narrated vids by illiterates, and Google's don't-care-attitude on comments (where you have no idea which of your comment will post and which will get deleted, for no clear reasons). I see the death of YT in 10 years.

[@MarcusMaybenot]

It should get you perma banned if you upload ai shit... It's a plague..

[@foobar1767]

Don't worry, it will only get worse....

[@jens-eriklangstrand1689]

American shit talk - manure all over .. teenn dorks.

[@ImProperThought]

Just a tiny correction. SAAB wasn't a car manufacturer first. The clue is in the name. "Svenska AEROPLAN AB". That's "aeroplane" in english. Edit: The full name of the company in english is "Swedish Aeroplane stock company (AktieBolag - directly translated to english is stock company - the Swedish term for "limited company" or "corporation")

[@cuffzter]

And even then it was funded by Bofors and split off. And Bofors have been in the weapon manufacturing business (gunpowder, explosives, cannons) since the 1880s and even had a guy named Alfred Nobel as its owner for a while. SAAB as a car manufacturer was more of a "wonder if we can use the knowledge of aerodynamics weve learned from making airplanes in making cars with less wind resistance"

[@davidiand7]

You know all this before it has been designed?

[@frstesiste7670]

And that was just the start. There were so many errors and assumptions about a new plane I gave up on the video.

[@WJV9]

True, they only switched to making cars because after WW2 ended they had a large factory with tools and employees they wanted to keep busy so they designed one of the first popular front engine, front wheel drive automobiles. I have owned 3 Saabs and they were well designed cars that in many ways were ahead of competition. My 1972 Saab 99 had heated seats with adjustable height/angle/lumbar support. Roll bar and side crash bar protection for passenger safety, 5 mph bumpers protection, carried 5 passengers comfortably and the 1.8 L engine accelerated the light weight car easily and got 27 mpg.

[@paulcoverdale8312]

Thanks for clearing this missions up. Takk. 👍👍🙏🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧💎💎

[@AngryLookingBanana]

I think this is great but its kinda weird when you make it sound like the airplane already exist. They haven't even made the digital prototype yet. So even tho comparing all these features to current planes are interesting, it's doesn't mean this plane will be the most advanced an best one out there when it's actually ready. America have so many black projects they surely already have a lot of advanced technologies no one knows about yet. But I really like this i hope Sweden continue the tradition to develop it's own wepons and not becom reliant on American built wepons. That is one thing I'm worried about after we joined NATO. Being able to develop and build your own military equipment is something very powerful and something I'm really proud of that Sweden managed to do.

[@realitydefensetraining7910]

I was going to say the exact same thing about the speaking as if it already existed. There are always cost overages and setbacks. I hope they don't think they are immune to those realities. I do hope it works as advertised.

[@daveherrington9112]

Yep, you can say it farts glitter, but until you actually get it flying, all that it out performs everything doesn't mean squat. Still, some of this technology even if it's only 50% of stated ability, will be pretty freaking awesome.

[@gandydancer9710]

It's not "kinda weird" if you just realize it's a fluff piece sales brochure for the project. One expects salesmen to lie. For transparency's sake the channel ought to admit how much they were paid to produce this "brochure".

[@cajampa]

Thanks for the warning bro. I hate clickbait.

[@filipbarneman4510]

som musk hade sagt "make it work or get fired"

[@duradim1]

This plane is so advance that no one has ever seen it. Not even its creators. Amazing!

[@Jumpwizard_]

Yeah maybe because it isn’t entering production for another 11 years

[@sveannnnnnn7578]

Saab is top notch they also make great radars and undetectible submarines(yeah truly)

[@tommyandersson4123]

@@duradim1 Well, thats "development" for you, things doesn't appear until well thought through and manufactured. Of course...do you think F-35 was just taken out of a Christmas box!? 😀

[@saidibrahim5931]

😂😂😂

[@Graham-h8n]

@@sveannnnnnn7578 them subs are really awesome, definitely like then and how stealthy they are in the water, really deadly adversary to come up against

[@ljuboizsiska5448]

4:15 Croatia does not have a Gripen fleet. Croats fly Rafales. It is true that we were offered Gripens, the army decided on Rafales. Therefore, the information in the video is incorrect.

[@zaxer5485]

Yea like why would we want a shitty gripen lmao

[@-NITRA-]

@@zaxer5485 beter then the rafales ahaha lmao

[@ArandomPerson7996]

@@zaxer5485Yeah buy from the french, They surely know modern combat…

[@kiarashnemat9968]

@@zaxer5485 Yeah you dont even need an airforce...

[@badfaceday7509]

We must remember one thing. The plane does not exist and is far from finished, which is why everything that has been said and narrated here is a “wish list” of what one would like to achieve. No doubt that the Swedes are skilled, so are the British. However, let's see if the schedule is met - if so, it is close, if not the only time this has happened. The same with the costs. And as for the comparison with the F-35, one must remember that the F-35 exists - it flies today, this wonder plane does not. And the day it does, there is already a new one on the way that has even better data - the eternal race and technology development.

[@tommyandersson4123]

@@badfaceday7509 Well, if you're asked to develop a new aircraft that is supposed to live for 40 yrs, and will be launched in 10 yrs, a good start would be to look at development rates, draw that trend out 35 yrs in the diagram, and then take aim to upgrade it every 10 yrs. That's how most new fighters are developed. So, the numbers and characteristics are not dimensioned for today, it's chosen for the supposed "tomorrow" some 35 yrs ahead. The F-35 is a fantastic machine that first flew 2006, went into service 2015. The Gripen first flew 1988, went into service 1996, so it is about to be replaced in, say 2035-2040. So, what we can see and read facts about in wikipedia will be obsolete then. Most specifications are secret until launch for a reason.

[@alpearson9158]

but spends large numbers of hours in sick bay

[@tommyandersson4123]

@@alpearson9158 Yes, i've read about it. That can happen when new features are introduced, and it's one of the reasons, together with high tech solutions that create high cost/ flight hour. Possibly it could be seen as an example of western aircraft are getting so advanced and complex it's too much for it's own good. If one aircraft is being lost, the potential "enemy" can re-engineer it, giving away too many secrets, which may have been a reason for not exporting the Y/F 22.

[@Merry_Christmas_today]

In 2019, Sweden (along with Italy) joined the British sixth-generation BAE Systems Tempest project. Since then, Japan has joined the program (now called the Global Combat Air Programme or GCAP), merging it with its former Mitsubishi F-X program. Additionally, Saudi Arabia is reportedly keen to join the program.

[@LANONEXAS]

Sweden also left it at the end of 2023

[@Merry_Christmas_today]

@@saintac31Northernsoul Italy would be bankrupt without EU money Sweden has no debts

[@cuffzter]

@@saintac31Northernsoul Gripens predecessor the Viggen could go in reverse. But it was for STOL reasons and to back up while taxying.

[@askallois]

@Good_Christmas_Today Italy finances the EU, is a net contributor, and has never defaulted in its entire life. Moreover its debt is almost all in Italian hands, go stir the soup that is sticking to the pot.

[@Merry_Christmas_today]

@@askallois The European Commission NextGenerationEU: European Commission disburses €24.9 billion in pre-financing to Italyhas today disbursed €24.9 billion to Italy in pre-financing, equivalent to 13% of the country's grant and loan allocation under the Recovery and Resilience Facility (RRF). Italy is one of the first countries receiving a pre-financing payment under the RRF. The pre-financing will help to kick-start the implementation of the crucial investment and reform measures outlined in Italy's recovery and resilience plan.

[@quazar5017]

Sounds more like a wishlist than a aircraft

[@Viking-heritage]

Yes, sweden joined the tempest project but later left to continue on their own. There has not been a beep about rejoining the tempest project, what has been said on the other hand is that the concept design has begun. I don't buy a single word in this video. Though i totaly like the tech part.

[@johnkochen7264]

The Gripen was designed from the start as an interceptor. It never needed extended range, the kind you need when you are attacking targets deep in enemy territory.

[@jnellie1970]

Jag älskar Sverige. Sweden rocks in so many ways. The Swedes have blown past most countries in tech, reliability and new capabilities. Then there’s always the “ground level plane” called Koenigsägg. Their HyperCars are second to none. We would move in a heartbeat, but you have to be sponsored. I lived there for a couple of years and have Swedish great-grandparents. It truly is a beautiful country with world class people.

[@Aviation715]

sweden left thje the tempest program didint they?

[@durbanbudz]

This video is like comparing Wonder Woman's Invisible jet to the F-35 😂

[@aldunlop4622]

Lmao!

[@davidrust7397]

It's still at least 8-10 year from being operational. Don't count your chickens till they are hatched

[@tankueytryn]

SAAB is comparable to Kia or Hyundai. The F-15 is probably still faster and the F-22 is better.

[@jwadaow]

@@tankueytryn SAAB is a luxury brand.

[@tommyandersson4123]

​@@jwadaowSAAB is a defence company, that once made a bit upmarket cars in a factory that once made aircraft, in Trollhättan. Saab cars is (unfortunately) no more.

[@6XCcustom]

sweden has done quite well so far when it comes to developing combat aircraft already now Gripen's EW capability is far better than most F16, F18 and F15 they need long runways and landing strips and that these are clean otherwise these planes suck FOD into the engines The only western fighter aircraft that is manufactured from the drawing board to be able to operate from bases in the forest is the Swedish Gripen in wartime, Sweden must operate from bases in the forest to have any chance of operating our warplanes for any length of time The Gripen is made to take off and land from normal car roads Gripen can be refueling and rearming, including reloading the gun and attaching air-to-air missiles, can be completed in less than 10 minutes with only one technician officer and five conscript mechanics and costs much less in maintenance and in flight compared to the F16 The Gripen can handle both American and European weapons such as the IRIS-T, Meteor and the RBS15 anti-ship missile, Taurus cruise missile, etc. Gipen's RCS is of 0.5 to 0.1 sq.m depending on the model F15 of 25 sq.m F16 5 sq.m F18 0.5-2 sq.m depending on the model F35 0.05 sq.m F22 0.001 sq.m china's J-20 0.1-5 sq.m probably something in between Russia's SU57 0.1-1sq.m according to Suchoj, probably higher The F 22 Raptor RCS shows how far ahead the US is source Sandboxx thedtechind.wordpress.com/2020/06/10/rcs-of-4th-generation-fighter-jets/ The Gripen A and C have performed well when participating in the Read Flag exercise, better than the F16, F18 and F15 A Swedish Air Force pilot flying Gripen C at Red Flag in the US has never lost an engagement ever against a US designed fighter He has not flown against F-22 and F-35, but F-15, F-16 and F/A-18s have only been his prey, not his nemesis. the F-22 and F35 are the only operational American fighter that can give Gripen any substantial trouble in Red Flag exercise but Gripen C can also be dangerous for F22 In America Gripen C in an exercise against the F-22 Raptor the F-22 did not detect the Gripen until it was in a position to kill the F22 Raptor source of the above see links below www.quora.com/How-does-the-Saab-JAS-39-Gripen-compare-to-the-F-16-Fighting-Falcon www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=11311&start=2880 www.globaldefensecorp.com/2021/01/07/gripen/ the new SAAB 39 Gripen E model performs in a completely different class it is not fair to compare the SAAB 39 gripen E model with the F16 F15, F16, F18 F already have big problems with gripen A and C model The SAAB 39 Gripen E is more on par with the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II in terms of sensors, radar, Supercruise, etc. now the F35 does not have Supercruise Gripen first participated in Red Flag 2006 with the Gripen A It was assigned to the red team. Reduced AWACS, reduced ground support. The Gripens connected their link systems and acted themselves as AWACs, got the battlefield awareness necessary and avoided all ground defense, scored 10 kills the first day including a Typhoon No losses were recorded on day one they remained undetected. One Gripen pilot knocked down five F-16 Block 50+ during close air combat in Red Flag Alaska. And the Gripen never lost any aerial encounter or failed their mission objectives. It was the only fighter that performed all planned starts, while others were sitting on the ground waiting for the weather to clear up. during a combat exercise with the Royal Norwegian Air Force, 3 Swedish Gripens went up against 5 RNAF F-16's. The result was 5-0, 5-0, 5-1 after having flown 3 rounds And no disrespect to any other fighters, including Norwegian pilots because they're just as well trained 'During Loyal Arrow in Sweden, 3 F-15C's from the USAF were intercepted by a Gripen acting as an aggressor. The result was 2 F-15's shot down and one managed to escape due to better thrust/weight source for the above see link below www.globaldefensecorp.com/2021/01/07/gripen/ www.czdefence.com/article/the-gripen-e-is-comparable-to-the-f-35a-in-many-ways Or look at Professor Justin Bronk at RUSI, his particular areas of expertise is the modern combat air environment kzbin.info/www/bejne/p17PlKhooKeLh6s eurasiantimes.com/jas-39-fighters-precisely-designed-to-fight-russia-british/?amp The SAAB E model has further improved the technology so that the Russian S400 has a very difficult time seeing the Gripen E before it is too late now some of this technology is based on technology from the USA that SAAB has integrated with its technology SAAB has developed a completely unique software that means that in the middle of a flight mission, the Gripen can change its combat task, for example from hunting to ground attack Sweden has applied for nato membership and the video below covers Sweden's arms manufacturing which nato is happy to include in the deal if you just want to see what the Gripen has to offer then go to 9.06 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5erhH2cgKh5iZY

[@Retroscoop]

Yes but it are the "not-most" which have to be taken into account.

[@pauldionne1665]

Yes they have for a very long time. Sweden's airplane can land on a road city or country road fuel up if needed re-arm turn around and fly to its next mission. It doesn't need an airport or runway or ship specific for its needs. I find that fascinating. Fueling re-arming or pilot exchange can be done anywhere in the country 😮. WOW that is remarkable. Very difficult to destroy an airbase when you're entire country IS THE AIR BASE 😊. So cool 😎.

[@AleksiCT]

Not reading that yappin but f18 can land to roads

[@6XCcustom]

@@AleksiCT there are many planes that can land on a road, the boing 737 can also do it but it's not this, it's about what good does an F18 plane do on a road, when nothing the aircraft needs , is designed to land on the road

[@AleksiCT]

@@6XCcustom Finland uses roads with f18 as airfields

[@davidbeattie4294]

This is a fine advertising piece for the SAAB/BAE partnership. Its also chock full of overly optimistic projections and development timeline assumptions. Good luck with that. Major aerospace programs dependent on technology not in current commercial use are notorious for program time delays and budget growth. Regardless of the miraculous claims made to sell the program, Saab is smart to focus on E/W, sensor fusion, and avionics development. That allows them to build on the outstanding systems already created for the Grippen and are highly adaptable to other projects, leveraging the previous investments.

[@TheKyosanim62]

Nordic countries need to purchase the Swedish jets to complement our F-35s. E.g., Denmark needs these aircraft to patrol in Greenland and the Faroe Islands. These Swedish/British jets are an excellent example of Europe building its own military industrial complex. Europe is breaking free of much of the American military equipment, which the U.S. will sorely regret.

[@jonschlottig9584]

The US needs to break free of our own overpriced middling military equipment. Make the best and everyone will want it.

[@davidrust7397]

@@jonschlottig9584 That's the whole problem with US military thinking. After the initial design, requirements creep keep delaying the projects as perfection and the latest/greatest tech (which constantly changes) is incorporated. In the case of F35 it's also trying to make a jet to satisfy every branch's requirements. The F35 is still a long way off from completion of software, hundreds of bug fixes, fixing it's electric power generation and engine overheating, etc.

[@deltavee2]

"complement our F-35s" How effin' condescending! By the time this thing is operational the F-35 will be doing booze runs between bases. The US Navy's 6th Gen is more like it.

[@ads06.1]

What will the US regret, especially as you mentioned that the jets will complement the F35 - not replace it? BTW, I agree with you that Nordic countries need to purchase homegrown jets & military capabilities as dependence on the US (or any other country not in the Nordic region) is an incredibly risky proposition as the US will have limitations in providing timely support/sustainment during any Major Theater War (MTW).

[@ads06.1]

@@jonschlottig9584 the newest tech isn't cheap and is only getting more complex which comes with a significant cost in R&D and production.. no matter who is developing & producing it. Every country needs to develop its own capabilities for its national defense based on the operating environment & military needs. Also, the US has capabilities for export & others that aren't, just like every other country. I, for one, am happy that Britain & Sweden are producing this amazing capability as it will be part of an integrated response to threats that will involve NATO nations. Additionally, the Russia-Ukraine war has revealed that "high-tech" military capabilities are costly to replace, maintain, and sustain, and the US would never be able to ramp up production to meet the demands of the purchasing/operating nations during a Major Theater War (MTW) with high attrition rates.

[@gusgone4527]

You forgot to mention. The rugged landing capability adds the potential of carrier use with little additional strengthening. With the RN planning to upgrade it's carriers to catapult launching, the possibilities are endless.

[@qkktech]

Carier force is outdated due to new engines global reach. Going mach 3+ cruize at 40km 10 000km. I think there will be at least two kind of "planes" that and jump in version mach 7+ non stealth at combat speed.

[@thegrimreefer3185]

@@qkktech Planes don't go mach 7+ at combat speeds. Even fighters that are capable of mach 2 don't go those speeds during combat. Those are intercept speeds. They slow down for actual combat. For one thing, at mach 2 the amount of time you have to make decisions is decreased considerably. At mach 7, good luck. At mach 2, a plane is going 686 meters per second. At mach 7 it's 2401 meters per second. Additionally, you have no maneuverability at those speeds. The SR-71 was a mach 3+ spy plane. It needed a little over 100 miles to perform a 180 degree turn. Granted, it was limited by a 1.5g load. But at mach 7 you're going to rip the wings off and disintegrate the air frame if you try acrobatic maneuvers. Then there's fuel consumption. An F-15 can go 2200 kilometers at mach 1 on internal fuel. That drops considerably when going mach 2 or more. This is why they don't typically cruise even at mach 1.

[@tlelarsson]

The Wallenbergs knows how to deliever on promises. Just look at their track record.

[@marcuskarlsson]

SAAB started as a airplane manufacturer and then started to make cars.

[@Spp235.]

Had a Saab TurboX. It was awesome

[@tankueytryn]

Hopefully the fighters interiors are nicer than their cars.

[@C6Fever]

Imigrant in Sweden here. Sweden once had one of the world's largest and strongest airforces. I think a fleet of 2000 planes. Swedes are SO modest. Never brag or say they are good at anything. Heja Sverige! / blatten.

[@kennethjohnson1682]

Swedens Air Force was the 4:th largest in the world but they never had so many planes as 2 000. The real number was 1 000 up to maybe? 1 200 something like that.

[@Rickster621]

I understand that dogfighting isn't what will hold air superiority, but I think the Gripen needs thrust vectoring. To compare with the turn radius of the SU flanker.

[@joakimbarkstrom9679]

Thrust vectoring was on the table during the design phase but ultimately considered to heavy and not needed.

[@tommyandersson4123]

@@joakimbarkstrom9679 A typical SAAB solution could have been vertical but not horizontal thrust vectoring. But other means may have the same effect.

[@mattbeld7917]

You have to build that first

[@Nonehasthisnamekek1]

Oh they will

[@gtifighter]

@@Nonehasthisnamekek1 oh but without Sweden. who have dropped out of the UK Tempest programme 2 years ago.

[@BobbyV0221]

Why does this video make it sound like the fighter jet already been flying four years already?? It's still on the drawing board so to speak

[@MichaelHartSr]

Sweden has ben building great plans for several years. And building them very well!!!!!!!!

[@Jonsson474]

Physical stealth is already becoming obsolete with the latest radar developments. This means that the physical stealth projects are no longer considered the latest aviation tech. Electronic stealth, active stealth and AI driven warfare systems is what’s coming.

[@PrinterPaper-w6q]

me when i lie

[@miteshghadi3146]

Stealth is still important

[@sgladiadis]

Sweden is awesome. ❤ 😊

[@tankueytryn]

I agree. But SAAB is not.

[@IrenESorius]

💖

[@Red-vi2ez]

Sweden’s next-generation fighter program, “Concept for Future Air Combat” (KFS), is in the concept phase, focusing on advanced technologies like low observability and digitalization. Saab has not finalized any international partnerships, and Sweden has opted not to join the Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP) led by the UK, Italy, and Japan. Saab is, however, mentioned as a potential partner in future projects, but no agreements have been signed yet

[@petereriksson7166]

Clickbait

[@ulihanel7078]

please do not insult Swedes.."a Tesla style blalblabla..." US shit is not even close to this plane!

[@LARKTA]

They really need to keep the UN out of this concept.

[@boudha115]

And the Us.

[@LARKTA]

@@boudha115 Yes, you are more than likely correct on this, sorry to say.

[@aaronellington5546]

Well, this technology and airplane will definitely strengthen NATO and his capabilities

[@AP-qs2zf]

not it will not

[@thomashedin9606]

Gripen is the future.. There is no way around that..Teamwork at its best

[@ThomasVanhala]

Gripen is the future, in a video about the plane coming after Gripen. But it is nice that we will skip 5th gen fighters going from the 4th gen Gripen to a new 6th gen fighter jet.

[@tommyandersson4123]

​​​@@vivekmanjeshwar2039 Not very likely, is it? As developing of most systems in new military aircraft is a secret, that will not be revealed for some time yet. It may also be that the engine is not yet determined, so that technical breakthroghs may be integrated as late as possible, in order to maximize development during the timeframe. By the time this aircraft is ready for service, the GE F414 will also be regarded as an old design, as it first flew in 1993...

[@tommyandersson4123]

@@vivekmanjeshwar2039 Most flight enthusiasts are curious. But with access to Nato toolbox the question is very open as Sweden has used engines from Rolls-Royce (21R, 29 Tunnan, 32 Lansen, 35 Draken), Pratt&Whitney (37 Viggen), General Electric (39 Gripen). So, it's anyones guess.

[@tommyandersson4123]

Gripen was the future in the past, making it servicable in the present and the near future. Exept for the E/F upgrade, the system is soon passing its 30th birthday in active service. So, no wonder a replacement is being under developement. But, so are the Eurofighter and soon the Rafale replacements. Developement is so fast today that materials, engines, warfare tech, manufacturing methods are also driving the launch schedule. The war in Ucraine have also taught us that aicraft may be shot down with weapons at 1% cost compared to the aircraft cost, which probably one of the reasons Russia do not fly more. Maybe our western aircraft are a bit too advanced, secret tech may be revealed if shot down. We must at least concider the possibility, as well as the cost factor if planes were to be shot down, at at cost of $100 mn a piece.

[@okbutthenagain.9402]

@@vivekmanjeshwar2039 A RR Tempest engine TDV3/1

[@Martin-Squirrel]

Tempest is United Kingdom, Japan and Italy - Global Combat Air Programme. In December 2023, a Swedish official during the International Fighter Conference announced that Sweden would not make a decision on a future fighter to replace the Gripen until 2031 following several national studies and related planning efforts. On Wikipedia, not sure its gonna be Sweden's next main fighter jet.. There is clearly cooperation efforts from Sweden into this project.. On 19 July 2019, Sweden signed a Memorandum of understanding (MoU) with the UK to work together in developing the wider FCAS needed for the future of aerial operations.[10] on 11 September during DSEI 2019, Italy formally joined the Tempest programme.[11][12] In 2020, Sweden and the UK 'firmed up' their MoU for FCAS and saw Sweden's SAAB establish a centre-of-excellence in the UK as part of a £50 million investment, However it was stressed that this was not an indication that Sweden or SAAB had signed onto the main Tempest effort.[13] On the 21 December 2021, The UK, Italy, and Sweden signed a trilateral MoU for cooperation on the FCAS. that is: The Future Combat Air System (FCAS), (French: Système de combat aérien du futur; SCAF; German: Zukünftiges Luftkampfsystem; Spanish: Futuro Sistema Aéreo de Combate; FSAC) is a European combat system of systems under development by Dassault Aviation, Airbus and Indra Sistemas. The FCAS will consist of a Next-Generation Weapon System (NGWS) as well as other air assets in the future operational battlespace.[1][2] The NGWS's components will be remote carrier vehicles (swarming drones) as well as a New Generation Fighter (NGF)-a planned sixth-generation jet fighter[3][better source needed]-that will possibly supersede France's Rafale and Germany and Spain's Typhoons.[2][4] So it's a little bullshit but it's still not too far off :) I say its okej video. It more like clickbait :D I'm from Sweden so its interesting if its gonna be our next jet. Still we don't know?

[@xhydrag0br203]

talvez com o Brasil tem muitas conversas do Brasil desenvolver um caça de sexta geração, seria algo bom a Suecia e o Brasil desenvolver um projeto de caça de sexta geração

[@OTISWDRIFTWOOD]

Stupid to quote Russian fake fighter specs as if they were not made up

[@alangunningham5667]

You do know there are no actual operation 6th gen fighters, the best grippen is a 4th/5th gen hybrid, the new fighter they are a member of the design team is the British Tempest, of which Japan is also a member. Germany is also now also interested in joining the team Tempest

[@okbutthenagain.9402]

" no actual operation 6th gen fighters" No but the Us and China have their concept versions airbourne

[@alangunningham5667]

@@okbutthenagain.9402 but no actual facts confirming any 6th fighter prototype flights yet, a few have 6th gen in development, UK, America, France, Chinese and of course Russian

[@gerrycoogan6544]

Sounds great in theory. Get back to us in 2035 and we'll see how much comes to fruition.

[@fox0013]

For real I thought we were talking about next year not 15 years

[@tommyandersson4123]

It has to do with the fact that we keep our fighters for a long time. 39 Gripen first flew 1988, went in service in 1996, so 2026 it will be 30 yrs in service, updated every 10 yrs or so. F-35 first flew 2004, went into service 2015, so it will be 20 yrs old when Gripen sucessor is being launched. US are working on F-18 replacement, i dont expect them to show it to me before they present it to everyone, within a few years. Meanwhile CFD simulation, materials technology and manufacturing methods are being better and economically viable. Thats also part of the overall development.

[@JoeyRay-fz1qe]

Well I remember when they started talking about 6th Generation was supposed to be man-less aircraft, this is a manned 5th Generation Aircraft. It is a improved 5th Generation or 5+ aircraft!

[@paulchilders9969]

The real measure will be whether it has a tail or not.

[@adityasatyala]

And we are comparing something which is not yet made 🤷🏻

[@arnepaulsen2300]

Any military invented, that gets Europe les dependend on overpriced, and policy dependend american merchandice, is to be applauded!

[@michaelhannah5376]

Sweden pulled out of Project Tempest

[@channingdeadnight]

I can't tell if all this is finalized and ready to go or just an ambition that they "want " to do. Because it sure sounds impressive. As an American seldom am I jealous of another country's fighter jets.

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Sweden is awesome..yes this is just a plan for now, hopefully we will have a good jet in 10 years..but still im allways impressed by Sweden, very inovating and good at producing quality stuff..Saab, Scania, Volvo, Ericsson, Ikea, AstraZeneca, ABB, Atlas Copco, Assa Abloy, Investor, Hexagon, Spotify, Bofors etc etc etc...for a country with 10m people its just dam impressive🇸🇪🇸🇪👍

[@user-zh9kc7tw4n]

SAAB stands for Swedish Aeroplanes Ltd and they started making cars after they made aircrafts... There was a project called F2020 which had a few stealth prototypes but was abandoned for the Gripen E instead.

[@brianv1988]

I guess Sweden is that good where they jump from 4th gen aircraft manufacturing all the way to 6 gen without anybody even noticing even Sweden

[@tommyandersson4123]

@Brianv1988 Yes, with 30-40 yrs between Swedish fighters, we need to catch up with technical generations. No problems, it's been done several times before. Sweden cannot afford to keep up incremental updates as USA (10 mn inhabitants compared to 320 mn), so we need to keep up with development between 'our' generations, to keep development costs down. It seems to work for us. Every 10 years or so, there is a major update, 39 Gripen E/F is the 2nd big update since it went into service 1996, almost 30 yrs ago. There may well be a 3rd upgrade before replacement.

[@brianv1988]

@tommyandersson4123 gripen E/F yeah I heard they're getting a new upgrade to carry different types of missiles and bombs on top of new electronics Avionics and I swear I heard something about an engine upgrade to boost performance and electrical output to run the new systems I would say that aircraft is up there with 4.5 generation with the capabilities they are putting into it and the sensors and ew upgrades it's definitely a formidable aircraft that I wish more countries would purchase and it's definitely affordable to maintain compared to other aircrafts in its category

[@tommyandersson4123]

​​​@@brianv1988You are correct about engine upgrade, from GE F-404 To GE F-414, with 20% more power. Then some new infotainment and so on. It is as you write gen 4,5 as it lacks Stealth, but it's small and a bit difficult to detect as a fighter anyhow. The jump from 4,5 to 6 is already started with E/F upgrade, but it doesn't fit into the generation scale yet, due to its lack of stealth.

[@brianv1988]

@@tommyandersson4123 even with all of that upgrades it wouldn't be classified as a 6th generation aircraft most 6th generation aircraft will be piloted or autonomous be able to link up with other autonomous assets through data link and they usually are in the tailless and without vertical stabilizer stealth configuration and are able to do Network Centric Warfare with AI capability kind of like a flying stealth supercomputer most of them won't even be used as close in Fighters they will more than likely just fire missiles from bvr and be able to do this in a highly contested airspace along with dropping munitions in a multirole Doctrine unless it's just a fighter either way 6th generation is pretty over hype these aircraft will only be used in strategic limited operations clear the way for 4th gen and 5th gen they will be doing majority of the action and with Radars getting more and more modern stealth aircraft are going to be easier to detect and fire upon speed will be back on the list again along with firing from bvr out of Range air defense most of the time you won't even physically see your enemy with the range of missiles these days

[@tommyandersson4123]

​​​@@brianv1988Agreed, but most fighters are going in that direction today, rather than following a "generations list", we need to learn how to keep fighters relatively simple, cheap and easy to maintain, otherwise the future will be ridiculously expensive and sensitive to electric malfunctions. BVR is already a reality from a technical perspektive, but as we are not at war, it can only be tested in exercises. Often aircraft are valued after their results in the last war, Sweden being in peace for 215 yrs consecutive has nothing to offer then? Luckily it doesn't work that way, we participate in exercises like Red Flag even before entering Nato, and strategies, material, pilot education and ground crews may be compared. So, i'm not particularly worried about that. What worries me more is that we might overdo things , making our fighters overadvanced, instead of cheap and reliable to operate i a practical way. Todays fighters are already peace machines, far to sencitive for warfare, but to patrol our borders doesn't normally mean being shot at.

[@clausebbesennielsen5596]

Some times it is better to have a plane that is not so technical, it makes faster flight turn around and cheaper just look at all the saab and Volvo cars driving around

[@zhan9207]

The competition crusher just got crushed by TWO Chinese prototypes that took the sky TODAY😅😅😅

[@C.Mc.]

um, hate to tell you this, but China making sure the entire world knew their 6th gen prototype performed it's maiden flight might, may not actually be good for china. Because unfortunately for China, The USA quietly flew their 6th gen NGAD prototypes in 2020. Yeah, in a few days that will be 5 years ago. Oh, the US prototype was also production ready. They just couldn't get the required funding necessary to put it into production. So much for woohoo, china beat everyone! If anything, China publicly flying their 6th gen demonstrator aircraft will force the US congress to supply the funding needed for the US to put their 6th gen fighter into production. Way to go china!

[@MrCard031584]

Lmfao. It tracks 10 and can engage 4. The US newest system can track 900 and uses ai to determine best action. The US jet can use sensors from sea and ground based systems, control 4 drone wingmen, and order strikes from any piece of weaponry on the field. 6th gen is self healing/repairing, has not only stealth abilities against radar but also from the human eye. The US is literally decades ahead of everyone else globally. Good on them for trying. But it's still got a very long way to go to even match the US.

[@alpearson9158]

when it comes to electronic suites your lost

[@manuelteixeira2496]

The patent in hydrogen fuel cells means a major upgrade for aviation.

[@sonukumarchoubey4510]

India is not dealing with this Aircraft 😂😂😂

[@kiba3x]

Some guys think war is good way to make profit.

[@OscarSebello]

I wish they should also incorporate in the 6th generation jets in monitoring the health condition of the pilots connected to their suits to warn the command center in case the pilot passed out just like what happened to F22 Raptor or suffers heart attacks & can fly autonomously back to base using AI

[@insunnybkk]

How can you say it crushes the competition when it hasn't been built and battle-tested yet?

[@trevortrevortsr2]

It makes sense to polarise the fuel to create the best homogeneous fuel vapour mixture

[@MaverickBlue42]

You know it's an AI when they can't pronounce Gripen...

[@oliviamoore3426]

Sweden withdrew in 2023 from this project

[@SmoodGraphics59]

Only $4700 that is almost like a complete new car maybe even cheaper

[@sdgsuperstar]

Sweden's next-generation fighter jet is an impressive development, with strong potential in areas like cost-efficiency, mission versatility, and technological innovation. However, it’s important to view statements about "crushing the competition" with some caution, as the global fighter jet competition involves a complex mix of capabilities that each nation values differently. The "6th-generation" term itself is still somewhat fluid, with different nations having varying definitions of what that entails-making it unlikely that any single jet will be a universal leader in all aspects.

[@jackyback3975]

This is the plane Canada should buy.

[@arvoKaiju5]

Facts. I'm Canadian and we need better fighters than the f/a 18 even though the f18 is good

[@NiclasHorn]

6:00 no, its not 60 years, SAAB have made planes sense WW2, first plane to roll off the production line 1938. that 86 years of non-stop experience. and that´s only for SAAB, so if you add BEA Systems it´s over 100 years of combined experience.

[@georgepoitras3502]

I was excited until i saw they haven't built it yet.

[@lennartwahlberg1547]

The first SAAB produced jet aircraft was the J-21R

[@verdantia]

is it stealthy at all?

[@willhickey7387]

Believe it when i see it.

[@donaldclifford5763]

Why so cynical? The US has very similar 6 gen development.

[@tommyandersson4123]

It's ok, just wait until 2030-2035. Sweden is a country with less inabitants than New York area, so we cannot just throw up the money to develop a F-35 capacity aircraft, but we have often learned how to develop clever enough aircraft that cost a lot less to use. Simply because we have to. We cannot afford to have competing companies either, so the state and Saab goes all in to cooperate in order to use money as efficient as possible.

[@ilex8426]

When AI gets good enough, it will tell us that Boris Jonson is a complete nut job, and that the Russians are the good guys. My own highly developed brain is actually already there since a couple of years. Regards from (what once was) Sweden.

[@sevse23]

How many times did the AI mention Sweden's "smaller size"?

[@tommyandersson4123]

Sweden is not so small, it's bigger than Germany. But Gripen is small, for a fighter. And the Swedish population is small in numbers (10 mn). So we have to be a bit creative to find a way to develope our own fighters.

[@glemmeren]

It's a shame we Norwegian's can't buy our air defence from our neighbours.

[@panpiper]

The Oreshnik missile is a gamechanger, potentially allowing Russia to mount a decapitation strike on Nato's air power, which is the mainstay of Nato's military strength. The ability to deliver 36 kinetic strikes from a single missile, each with more power than one ton bombs, could utterly destroy centralized airfeilds. Sweden's focus on being able to use ordinary roads as runways could well be the key to maintaining Nato's air strength.

[@okbutthenagain.9402]

The Oreshnik missile is a gamechanger, potentially allowing Russia to mount a decapitation strike on Nato's air power" Ask Russia how thats working for them in the Ukraine.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sorinturle4599]

Russian self-marketing is but claims. And huge difference between claims and practical reality. Just like Su-57 (far-far from propaganda, a potential good 4.5 generation, but not more, and likely already suspended), T-14 (same), "the unstopable" Kinzhal and Zircon, Sarmat and Yars, who failed test after test (yeah, they destroyed on purpose their own launching silo with their own Sarmat to show power) etc.

[@pauldionne1665]

​@@sorinturle4599yes the Russian military is a joke. HA HA I think they lost the keys to the T-14 tank . Should you find them Zelensky would like to know 😂.

[@kscipkkkk]

Pretty difficult to compare a U.S. fighter aircraft developed in 2006 to a not yet developed aircraft that won’t be available for another 12 years. Me thinks the comparison needs to be between this fighter and whatever its competitors have in store for 2036. Other than that it sounds promising!

[@Kugghjul]

Just saying Sweden dropped out of the tempest program.

[@Jonsson474]

The first Saab aircraft, Saab 17, started development in 1937 and production in 1938, long before both jets and cars.

[@alanlevin167]

Don't forget, Swedish jets generally have somewhat modified American engines! Also the Gripen may have many of the attributes of the F35 but it is NOT STEALTHY.

[@andrewwmacfadyen6958]

Licence built RR engines until the Viggen

[@Jonsson474]

Physical stealth is already becoming obsolete with the latest radar developments. This means that the physical stealth projects are no longer considered the latest aviation tech. Electronic stealth, active stealth and AI driven warfare systems is what’s coming.

[@tommyandersson4123]

Agreed, but it can fly in rain without loosing it's nonexistent stealthyness.... This problem may be solved with a relatively new science called Biomimicry in the future, making surfaces hydrofobic, like the Lotus flower.

[@Groza_Dallocort]

@@andrewwmacfadyen6958 Gripen engine on the A/B/C/D variants is a modified F404 engine the same type of engine as on the F/A-18 but the Gripen E/F will be using the F414 engine

[@Peter-ke5ws]

Startreck standard's...respect ! Hope to see operational data.

[@colindutton7254]

I think that there should be pilotless units. this will be the future fighter planes. this will allow dangerous missions to be held and not lose pilots.

[@phillee2814]

They said it controls complex drone swarms.

[@glennquagmire3258]

Sweden also has build philosophy on its aircraft. They design them to be easily srviceable and modular duting the deign and build face reducing maintenance and repair costs. It also increases turn around time for each plane that neds mantenance or repair. Matched with it proposed specs, it makes it a jet which the U.S. should be looking at like we did their submarine propeller.

[@doodlePimp]

Headline fixed: "New concept drawing of fighter CRUSHES the competition!"

[@testi_kanava68]

That 6th generation plane really doesn't have vertical stabilizers anymore.

[@kiatlow2412]

You just posted this. I thought Sweden pulled out of the Tempest program a couple of years ago?

[@ehsnils]

The path was different with Gripen. Priority given to maneuverability and low maintenance costs over stealth, but not ignoring the stealth totally and instead just keep down the reflections when it was feasible. Stealth is not always easy and coatings that have to be replenished often to maintain stealth can be a great headache and increase maintenance costs and maintenance time between flights. A fighter that's not in the air don't score any hits. But I'm not sure if everything that's presented in the video actually is real or will become real. In any case I suspect that the fighter jets we see today are the last of their line. In the future we'll see more drones of various types. Remote controlled with AI assistance. The war in Ukraine shows us this to some extent where drones have had a considerable impact.

[@philiplbrown]

Come on!! SAAB withdrew from the Tempest project 12 months ago and is pursuing its own 6th generation capabilities. Get a grip Tactic Wings.

[@okbutthenagain.9402]

No they are NOT pursuing their own version 6th gen fighter. Its even on their web site that thay are looking at options.

[@gtifighter]

@@okbutthenagain.9402 the N°1 Option being: Building it by themselves

[@connyundin1388]

Swedih aeroplane company(SAAB)started up as a plane company and did'nt begin producing cars until post ww2 due to declining orders for aeroplanes so it was NOT a carcompany from the beginning and it's not a carcompany now either.

[@mizake01]

Very, very-well done video. No rambling, editorializing (not "much"). Right into it. Helpful images to support narrator. Well-scripted. Could go no. But, best of all, no (well, not much) AI weirdness, etc. Good Job. Fantastic Job!

[@Tacticwings]

Thank you !! Credit goes to talented editor & writer

[@Azrael-xl3jl]

This AI really can't say Kilograms...

[@Sugarmountaincondo]

If it were up to me, I would not sell this aircraft to Bazil because they are a BRICS member and would transfer this technology to Russia & China.

[@alarik95]

SAAB - Swedish Airplane Company Tunnan - nickname meaning The Trash Can (The Bin in British) Draken - The Dragon Viggen - The Thunderbolt Gripen - The Gryphon/Griffin Edit: Tunnan literally only means The Can, but it can be implied to mean the trash can. The nickname is derived from the trash can shape of the hull of the J-29 Tunnan

[@TovarichSputnik]

A better translation of tunnan is barrel (like what you make wine in).

[@trs8947]

Saab for ever🎉 best Opel in the... world

[@andersholmstrom3571]

You forgot the Lansen in you historical overview.

[@StarStream707]

I'm impressed.

[@TR-rx5ej]

Were they ever involved in any combat (air dog fight) against fighters of equal capabilities?

[@tommyandersson4123]

Sweden has not been in war for 215 yrs consecutive, so no. But we have cooperation exercises with NATO, like Red Flag for some years.

[@TR-rx5ej]

Good, no war .....

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Sounds like hype, but it would be interesting to see how it performed against the F35

[@michaelnorling5062]

Sweden delivers quality 👍🇸🇪👌

[@jarnom85]

5th Gen Stealth, 6th Gen Drone Swarms, whats next on 7th gen?

[@tommyandersson4123]

@Jarnom85 Google Hallion scale of fighter generations. It probably needs another update by now.

[@SmoodGraphics59]

Am I the only one who is excited to see this new jet from my home country I am kinda excited to see how it looks but I may not even be alive when it’s done whatever some things you just cant experience

[@Swede_4_DJT]

Greetings from Sweden! 🎉

[@3dkiller]

''Swedish 6 gen fighter crushes the comic books''

[@thomasr.bartonjd7815]

and sweden will say thank you to brazil by buying many Embraer c-390 Millenium as a new Sweden military cargo plane-- scratch me and i scratch you.

[@spellplague]

Rumors say that Turkey will develop its 7th gen fighter jet by 2025

[@tommyandersson4123]

@Spellplague You're late on the ball, Turkey launched it's TF-KAAN with 2 GE F-100 engines this autumn. But most likely gen 5.

[@sgtmajor]

Who knew the Gripen was Viggen. I thought fighter jets were T-Rex level raptor carnivores.

[@tommyandersson4123]

The advantage with small aircraft is manoevrability and the fact that it is likely to be underestimated. It was designed to defend Sweden, but was also sold to a number of countries. So was the 35 Draken, but not the T-Rex-type Viggen.

[@christianbenesch1]

If Saab was already called Aeroplan, then it was not new to build aircraft.

[@devilsadvocate1597]

The Viggen, the world's first fighter jet that was truely a Vegan! After accidentaly swallowing a pidgeon, it spat it back out, truely renaming herself a Veggan!

[@thegrimreefer3185]

In other news the US just announced f-42, their 27th generation fighter. It's capable of Mach 24, has a range of 93 million miles and runs on crystalic fusion. It's armed with 35 autonomous 8000 giga- joule lasers. It's also carries 700 variable yield antimatter warheads. These are delivered via quantum tunneling and can be instantly teleported to their target. It's top secret radar is capable of tracking 400 trillion targets simultaneously using its faster than light fempto computer. It's energy to matter converter can build and deploy 500 drones per minute. The new radar is capable of mind controlling up to 4 billion people negating any possibility of a radar operator detecting it. It's also a living organism and is grown. So it's self repairing and actually makes money rater than needing any cost per flight hour.

[@RS-Amsterdam]

With 8 cup holders

[@thegrimreefer3185]

@@RS-Amsterdam Yeah, I forgot to mention those. Also, they are big enough to hold a large Slurpee.

[@miteshghadi3146]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Russia using Oreshnik showels and washing machine .

[@peter486]

This is good for Saab and great for NATO. Swedish military tech is amazing. When America asked, "Is there any way we can take old rockets from the '60s and turn them into smart weapons?", Saab replied, "Yes, the outcome is Small Diameter Bombs (GLSDB)