Roland TD-27KV Electronic Drum Kit Demo

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Sweetwater

Sweetwater

Күн бұрын

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@sweetwater
@sweetwater 5 жыл бұрын
Drumming up ideas for your next kit? Like, comment, and subscribe for more drumsets, cymbals, and accessories! 🙏 Thanks for watching!
@based_engineer8962
@based_engineer8962 4 жыл бұрын
Tell Roland to stop wasting our time and money and pair up with toon tracks for actually good sounds
@gregwilliams2764
@gregwilliams2764 4 жыл бұрын
Sweetwater add some Agean LV hybrid cymbals from DrumTec. I love the jazz set but also the Aegean R type..brighter and the hihats have a beautiful “chick “use both digital cymbals and the Aegean
@geraldmellon740
@geraldmellon740 4 жыл бұрын
Nick is the “go to guy” when it comes to reviewing new kits. Absolutely brilliant.
@tristantheuerkorn777
@tristantheuerkorn777 4 жыл бұрын
Have seen him 20 years ago with SB in Berlin. He is a great drummer!
@damoufle7398
@damoufle7398 4 жыл бұрын
When he says "really cool and natural sounds", I'm sorry but it is not objective review, but just commercial speech ...
@djjooce4503
@djjooce4503 4 жыл бұрын
Watched this video over and over. I ordered this kit and should be arriving this week. Great demo!
@KK-eg3em
@KK-eg3em 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy ! Mine just came in today!
@lucyferina
@lucyferina Жыл бұрын
I just bought the store demo for $1500 combined with my TD11 and 2 12 inch mesh pads now I have a huge kit with 6 toms and 8 cymbals, I’m using the rubber pads from the TD11 for percussion effects.
@mrsplosh999
@mrsplosh999 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review!! :) For everyone complaining, with some tweaks to the kit you can get a GREAT sounding kit. Not only that the pros are obvously, 1. Ease of set up/transportation 2. Space 3. Sound (not disturbing neighbours with use of headphones) And one that I think is almost unmatchable is... CONSISTENCY. Nothing worse than when you change environment, or kit and its just NOT quite right with the audio you're getting or sound you might have on that kit on a different day at a practice studio or something. With this you get the same sound to what YOU like everytime. Very cool :) I love both electronic and acoustic kits for their own reasons so just choose based on your preference :)
@edwardx.winston5744
@edwardx.winston5744 4 жыл бұрын
NDV is a genius musician and a fabulous presenter. He could make mic’ed up pickle buckets sound like a DW kit and could probably sell ice to Eskimos.
@Andrew-wb2zq
@Andrew-wb2zq 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone is complaining about the sounds, but I'm going to be honest - sounds are a little overrated. What's really important on a practice kit is feel and responsiveness. Roland drums still sound "canned", but they feel great to play because the triggering is so lightning fast and dynamically sensitive. My first electronic kit was an old TD4, and I eventually upgraded to an Alesis Strike Pro because it sounded awesome and seemed like a great value. What I didn't realize was that even if the drum samples sounded more convincing, the playability of the kit suffered. It just didn't feel as good to play. The samples sounded good but they didn't sound great coming through my headphones when I played. My TD4 had dramatically worse drum sounds and less advanced hardware, but it just flat out triggered better and sounded punchier. It's a little hard to explain, but Rolands just absolutely nail the feel aspect of playing. I eventually bought a used TD20X module and it was like night and day compared to the Strike Pro, even if the sounds were a decade old. I'm not gigging with my e-kit, and if I really want to record I'll use EZ Drummer or something. But I do need it to *feel* convincing. (Also my Alesis Strike Pro was an absolute piece of crap from a reliability standpoint - 3 of my pads have failed and the ride just went. The hihats were a joke and everyone replaces them with VH11s. Google "Strike Pro pad fix" if you want to see the kind of quality Alesis puts out.)
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Roland kits mostly feel the best.
@mayitriggeryou
@mayitriggeryou 4 жыл бұрын
3K and same sized toms? Come on Roland!
@spideliciousx9822
@spideliciousx9822 4 жыл бұрын
May I Trigger You? Agree, at least a larger floor Tom?
@blakegowan6623
@blakegowan6623 11 ай бұрын
Nick is so legendary at presentation....great vibe....genius player. You go in this video thinking.....oh here we go...another guy struggling to make edrums sound good......but then he blows you away with stellar playing. He makes it look really easy.....but that is because he is pro pro.
@michaeljuliano8839
@michaeljuliano8839 4 жыл бұрын
I've actually always just used a traditional cross stick technique on my TD-15kv by laying the stick across both rims. It's probably 98% reliable. I've been happy with it.
@kushking420
@kushking420 4 жыл бұрын
Love this drum set, it's so worth it for the snare, ride, hihat, and module.
@Carriesaglock
@Carriesaglock 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I want this kit.
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, this kit is amazing
@KameronHarrison
@KameronHarrison 4 жыл бұрын
Went for an Alesis Strike Pro SE instead of the Roland TD 27kv. Boy, am I kicking myself now. In the process of returning the Alesis. I knew I was taking a chance, but man, the quality of Roland, and the reliability of their products are truly unmatched. Well worth the added cost. And honestly, the sounds are just as good as what you get from Alesis, don't be fooled. Why didn't I just go with the 27kv in the first place?!
@chezchezchezchez
@chezchezchezchez 3 жыл бұрын
what u playing NOW?
@KameronHarrison
@KameronHarrison 3 жыл бұрын
@@chezchezchezchez Roland TD 27
@odprjo9016
@odprjo9016 4 жыл бұрын
It's pretty amazing to see the big difference between Suprioir Drummer 3 amazing and realistic sounds to Roland modules.
@MikeUIibarri
@MikeUIibarri 4 жыл бұрын
It's always a cloudy day for some folks. Sucks to be that. Oh, well... Awesome.
@dDoOyYoOuUtTuUbBeE
@dDoOyYoOuUtTuUbBeE 4 жыл бұрын
The hi-hat rod should be longer...
@l3ertuz362
@l3ertuz362 4 жыл бұрын
it's an antenna for wireless
@cardinaldriver
@cardinaldriver 4 жыл бұрын
You can put a couple tambos and a set of cowbells on that badboy.
@gregwilliams2764
@gregwilliams2764 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen this problem before on Ekits. The drummer is almost sitting on the floor. The rack is too low. I prefer a Gibraltar height adjustable rack. Otherwise, you look like you’re sitting behind a toy. Get the VAD506 and a good rack .
@denismacfarlane255
@denismacfarlane255 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same
@morten1
@morten1 3 жыл бұрын
She said
@DidYouReadEULA
@DidYouReadEULA 4 жыл бұрын
15:11 Once again, there's that amazing drummer who just loves to play!! 16:37
@lajeanette33
@lajeanette33 4 жыл бұрын
For such a price having still 3 small toms is too bad! It would have been awesome with that snare and ride!
@jadonchacon4914
@jadonchacon4914 4 жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t be so bad if the floor Tom was at least a 12” pad. Having 10” pads for all the toms with a 14” snare just feels uncomfortable
@hunt386
@hunt386 4 жыл бұрын
The band "Big Big Train" is definitely worth to check out. They do odd time.
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 4 жыл бұрын
Now that everyone has had a shot at complaining their butts off, I will say this. If you hate electronic drums, stick with your acoustic. It`s that simple. If you want the advantages of the TD-27 kit as demonstrated here, then great. Have at it. There are trade offs to everything in life and you make your choices accordingly. Stop expecting that electronic kits will perfectly mimic all things acoustic. It`s not going to happen...so stop complaining!
@trentonziegler
@trentonziegler 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@astronaut2005drummer
@astronaut2005drummer 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Roland TD-17KV and I'm very happy with it.
@sampilsbury9415
@sampilsbury9415 2 жыл бұрын
I think the TD50x sounds close to acoustic. It’s a shame you have to spend that much to get those sounds when Efnote and ATV get great acoustic sounds at cheaper prices
@jedisid
@jedisid 4 жыл бұрын
It feels the same as the Roland Kit I bought 10 years ago. They're still good for controlling VST drums though.
@JEAG
@JEAG 4 жыл бұрын
RIGHT? I think it like this. If I'm investing in a dedicated sound module that costs 1500 bucks, a VST shouldn't sound better. These shouldn't be just "controllers," these should be judged as MOOG products. Sound isn't there yet. I can buy a VST to get propper trigger sounds.
@jedisid
@jedisid 4 жыл бұрын
JEAG yeah, not impressed.
@christopherpederson1021
@christopherpederson1021 4 жыл бұрын
I think they actually got worse as the years progressed
@drumroller27
@drumroller27 3 жыл бұрын
That’s too bad as I thought Roland was leading in the electronic drums department. You think there are better alternatives?
@jedisid
@jedisid 3 жыл бұрын
@@drumroller27 Physical hardware is best at Roland, just connect it to your PC and control Superior/EZ drummer. Onboard sounds are not good.
@Scott-tu3jg
@Scott-tu3jg 4 жыл бұрын
Thank the lord I didnt pull the trigger on buying a td-25 last week
@DruGaTecH
@DruGaTecH 4 жыл бұрын
Just get the TD-30KV
@neewollah6875
@neewollah6875 4 жыл бұрын
I have td11 td17 and td25 and I rarely use the td17. Only when I think I’m bored of the td25 I hook up the td17 module and realize the only good thing in the 17 module is the cymbal sounds.
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi 4 жыл бұрын
@@DruGaTecH Well that is some horrible advise
@kian2961
@kian2961 4 жыл бұрын
Roland needs to step up their mid tier drum game
@XoldnewsX
@XoldnewsX 4 жыл бұрын
They did pretty well with the Td-17 line
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi 4 жыл бұрын
@@XoldnewsX That is low tier (good low tier for practice and uses like that). TD-27 is supposed to be mid tier so I expect balanced outputs, integrated power block, 4+ pre-outs and better sounds so this can be used live, in this state, the TD-27, just like the 25 is useless for live gigs.
@zeroblackstar
@zeroblackstar 4 жыл бұрын
they need to do a collab with toontrack and get some better samples....yikes
@grandmasterotis
@grandmasterotis 4 жыл бұрын
These sounds are very unrealistic for 2020... maybe this was good enough for 2015...but come on Roland, I believe in you guys.
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 4 жыл бұрын
I think that they aren't too bothered since the vast majority will buy samplepacks anyways. Even the "drumsamples" modules sound bad and artificial (like the Mimic Pro.) Better spent your resources to make the hardware better.
@based_engineer8962
@based_engineer8962 4 жыл бұрын
Superior Drummer 3 is a must. Turns a td-6 into better than a td-50 sound wise for 300 bucks
@RockyTop85
@RockyTop85 4 жыл бұрын
I mean I’m thoroughly underwhelmed
@mimicry88
@mimicry88 4 жыл бұрын
Integrated 28-channel USB audio interface into drum software is going to be awesome. I dont much care what the stock sounds are. That digital snare is KILLER. Tracks rim clicks seamlessly.
@based_engineer8962
@based_engineer8962 4 жыл бұрын
​@@mimicry88 I agree I want the TD-50 Digital Pack so bad, If they did a YD-27 digital pack I might upgrade my td-30 but I really hate cable snakes with a passion
@Mr_Bollie
@Mr_Bollie 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, it's 2020 and sample re-triggers still lack variation, which makes it sound artificial.
@strat0871
@strat0871 4 жыл бұрын
Let's wait for 5-G modules..;-)
@HR2635
@HR2635 4 жыл бұрын
@@stellr88 exactly.. if Roland teamed up with Toontrack all our wishes could come through. Until they do that Roland is only going one way -> down.
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 4 жыл бұрын
@@HR2635 It's not that simple. To get the amount of variation with samples is not worth the time. Hardware with good samples is also insanely expensive. That's why the modules that do feature real samples still suck. The modules can only handle a small amount of samples. Simple as that. Saying Roland is going down is just proving you have no idea how the software side works.
@Mr_Bollie
@Mr_Bollie 4 жыл бұрын
@@annekedebruyn7797 I use NI Studio Drummer without edrums. With small buffers, even a modern PC struggles. So I can pretty well imagine, that a sound module always has its priority on low latency, while you can't really squeeze much computing power into it. Unfortunately, that makes it not really a pleasure listening to those.
@watdoetienouweer
@watdoetienouweer 4 жыл бұрын
@@annekedebruyn7797 What are you talking about? Its insane that the old TD9 from another decade sounds the same. Most players really dont give a shit about 99% of the stupid sounds in the roland modules. Save the space. Most players need to connect it to a laptop for good sounds. Ofcourse the way to go is team up with toontrack and get the sounds onboard. They are all selling this like a kit for on stage. Really? And its not that expensive to use ssd tech in these modules.
@lawrencepatrick5760
@lawrencepatrick5760 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a ton of fun and Nick you are a inspiration, Thanks.
@MusicFed
@MusicFed 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy this guy can play!!🤟🏻
@frankezendam5409
@frankezendam5409 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, how about a video about the td-27kv2?
@traviskrinkle6548
@traviskrinkle6548 4 жыл бұрын
Why isn't Roland giving the people what they want? Nice demo, #Sweetwater!
@georgwassner9427
@georgwassner9427 4 жыл бұрын
For me the position of the knobs is wrong. The group of the 4 knobs should be on the left side of the display. Otherwise your left hand is hiding information on the display. Too bad!
@treynobles
@treynobles 4 жыл бұрын
I’d add that all the knobs should’ve been on the bottom and the screen on top. That way left and right handed players aren’t accidentally blocking the screen.
@drumfunktion3184
@drumfunktion3184 4 жыл бұрын
Use a mirror and read it backwards
@RedbackRecordz
@RedbackRecordz 4 жыл бұрын
Fine if your right handed 🤗
@SpeedisH94
@SpeedisH94 4 жыл бұрын
Roland : Then place the module on the right side of your kit and use with right hand
@georgwassner9427
@georgwassner9427 4 жыл бұрын
@@treynobles even better!
@gigalyrics
@gigalyrics 4 жыл бұрын
does that bluetooth send midi data to the pc/daw?
@MusicFed
@MusicFed 4 жыл бұрын
I still enjoy my TD-9!!
@chezchezchezchez
@chezchezchezchez 3 жыл бұрын
Still?
@MusicFed
@MusicFed 3 жыл бұрын
@@chezchezchezchez yes!
@jasonweidman2614
@jasonweidman2614 4 жыл бұрын
Great new kit. Roland desperately needs to vary their tom sizes, though. At least a larger floor tom. Three 10" tom pads is pretty ridiculous.
@kian2961
@kian2961 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Weidman yeah, especially with that snare and ride.
@jw112mail
@jw112mail 4 жыл бұрын
if you can't hit a 10" circle then may I recommend working on your technique
@kian2961
@kian2961 4 жыл бұрын
JME WILLIAMS If you couldn’t understand that I was addressing the proportions of the kit then I may recommend working on your intelligence
@jasonweidman2614
@jasonweidman2614 4 жыл бұрын
@@jw112mail JME WILLIAMS wow...thats quite an assumptive comment to make towards someone you dont even know. It's the realism and feel of the kit that I'm referring to. For $3,000, I'd personally prefer more realistic sizes. But thanks for the unnecessary pointer....
@JMRSplatt
@JMRSplatt 3 жыл бұрын
Roland when asked if they'll vary the tom sizes: KEKW
@YamahaDan100
@YamahaDan100 Жыл бұрын
finally a decent drummer demoing one of these
@RNoldFCK
@RNoldFCK 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds same as 15 years ago.
@gregwilliams2764
@gregwilliams2764 4 жыл бұрын
RNoldFCK answer: Superior Drummer 3. Problem solved
@kosta1605
@kosta1605 4 жыл бұрын
most people don't use the stock sounds on edrums. Haven't in years. If you are then you are behind in times lol.
@mpcvore
@mpcvore 4 жыл бұрын
@@gregwilliams2764 : right, but how much money do you spend more to get it (+ the laptop)...?
@exci6198
@exci6198 4 жыл бұрын
@@mpcvore $500 for SD3 and one of the latest packages (1000 if you count the laptop but are you serious? Who doesn't have a laptop...) to get your kit sounding like multiple $10000 worth acoustic kits recorded in renowned studios by dozens of mics worth like $20000 and mixed by world class producers. What can you get for your acoustic kit for that price? 2 overhead mics?
@mpcvore
@mpcvore 4 жыл бұрын
Why not (do you need a "strong" laptop for SD3 ?), but it's still a lot of money, and what about the "monitoring" or PA system....?! Anyway, i stay with my old fashion Premier acoustic drum kit and my Zildjian cymbals, it's enough for my skill (and money !) and for the needs of my cover band...!
@dd07871
@dd07871 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what technology they use to actually sense the different regions of the cymbals? Pretty amazing.
@dd07871
@dd07871 4 жыл бұрын
And also striking pressure.
@neewollah6875
@neewollah6875 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me want a Roland td30 or an alesis strike pro module so badly.!!!
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi 4 жыл бұрын
Why a TD-30? The digital ride and snare are way better than the center cone crap pads on that set and the 30 has no balanced outputs. I just wonder why?
@radrums7362
@radrums7362 4 жыл бұрын
Nick is a great drummer 👍🏻
@KY-pk2rd
@KY-pk2rd 4 жыл бұрын
Have my TD25K, bought a bluetooth module from AliExpress for 1.5 euros, and I literally upgraded my TD25 to TD27
@deepdance111
@deepdance111 4 жыл бұрын
Play full playback from SD Card...nice option:)
@dmporch
@dmporch Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. Can you tell me if the TD-27 has the same positional sensing as the TD-50? I heard the TD-27 doesn't have full positional sensing on the digital ride. Is that true?
@Bcwilderness
@Bcwilderness 4 жыл бұрын
wondering how good or how much diff the position sensing and snare will make to vst software re dynamics and diff snare articulations, ssd5 and ad2, any vids about
@wesniemi9371
@wesniemi9371 4 жыл бұрын
Do the drum sticks you are using have plastic tips? Just wondering what the best sticks are for protecting the mesh heads when you play an edrum set. Are wood tips safe for mesh heads? Or should we be using plastic tips? Thanks!
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi 4 жыл бұрын
Wood is best, nylon will eat the mesh faster and I guess wear the cymbals more too. Just make sure to replace your sticks when they are really worn or they will damage the rubber rims and cymbals. And do not use felt for the kick beater, once again a wooden beater is best.
@marka2520
@marka2520 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thank you.
@jarsshew2722
@jarsshew2722 4 жыл бұрын
Td17kvx vs td27kv. Which one do you recommend and why?
@Carriesaglock
@Carriesaglock 4 жыл бұрын
I know I’m gonna spend the extra $$ on the TD27. Better rack, snare, ride, nicer toms.
@OYMInternetRadio
@OYMInternetRadio 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed he didn't mention the size and capacity of the SD card which leaves me to believe that it's low capacity but I would like this confirmed. I would also like to know how quick the load is from the card. If your on stage and you are going to another song, the load speed is very important.
@steezyboiiii808
@steezyboiiii808 Жыл бұрын
no its actually decent size i think its 500mb I THINK
@ffwrude
@ffwrude 4 жыл бұрын
I have the money... But i think i'll get a TD17kvx. I don't really understand the almost doubled price. Doesn't seem double time better than the 17
@Azzthedrummer
@Azzthedrummer 4 жыл бұрын
Looks mint glad they done this
@PALM_dj
@PALM_dj 3 жыл бұрын
Ii would like a video tutorial on how to record 28 separate channels with the roland td27 which softwere to use and how to connect and how to do it.
@reread2549
@reread2549 4 жыл бұрын
Great product demo thank you
@JonBoyDrummer
@JonBoyDrummer 4 жыл бұрын
great review! Thanks for sharing man.
@anthonyashby1138
@anthonyashby1138 4 жыл бұрын
having a hard time choosing between this and strike pro se. anyone have experience on both kits?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Anthony! Both are great kits in terms of build quality and feel, but they do differ somewhat in terms of sounds and some features. Would you mind giving us a call? Would be happy to talk more about it to get you into the kit that's best for you. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
@DrRECM
@DrRECM 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't like a preset sound you have to edit it, just like photoshop, you can easily personalize every sound, there are some detailed YT videos explaining how to do it. Once you have your sound(s) you will no regret.
@Bonzdrummer
@Bonzdrummer 4 жыл бұрын
my td25 will do nicely thank you.....i loaded in some vexpressions and im good!!
@MrMikhail
@MrMikhail 3 жыл бұрын
Is TD-27KV as quiet as TD-25KV? I was about to buy TD-25 KV already :)
@steezyboiiii808
@steezyboiiii808 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldent buy the td25 becuase of how high the prices get on that kit and honestly the ride is sorta loud but the snare is pretty quit for being so deep mostly the cymbals have some nosise to them
@MrMikhail
@MrMikhail 3 жыл бұрын
@@steezyboiiii808 Thanks for advise.
@Lasers459
@Lasers459 3 жыл бұрын
Roland is the best. I bought a td17 and I have never looked back. I do like this progression tho. It seems to have more options for more real life playing. When roland makes the the td37, I'm sure I'll sell my kit for one. And I'm definite the person who buys my set will have issue free playing and enjoyment for... Prolly a lifetime! I freaking love roland... I wake up and just look at my kit and get inspired to play.
@Lasers459
@Lasers459 3 жыл бұрын
Oh! .... And shout out to sweetwater for being the absolute best music gear seller on the planet
@Lasers459
@Lasers459 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the alesis strike pro se seems like alesis is finally stepping up. I like the progression
@justinairin1
@justinairin1 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why all the complaints,they sound great to me,maybe the whiners are used to playing out of tune kits,these sound like my properly tuned acoustic drums,I think I'll try these out
@AlainHubert
@AlainHubert 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to play with a double kick pedal on this kit?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Alain! The TD-27KV does have double kick capability and you can go about it one of two ways. Either with a standard double kick pedal on the one kick trigger or by purchasing an additional KD-10 kick tower and using another single kick pedal with it. You'll occupy one of the three auxiliary trigger inputs doing it this way, but it will be more accurate in triggering at higher speeds. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
@indiegamesonly6617
@indiegamesonly6617 4 жыл бұрын
how is this different than a V-pro?
@Gruuvin1
@Gruuvin1 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few videos, where it seems like there is a delay with the cymbal choke.
@TheLordcasio
@TheLordcasio 4 жыл бұрын
Did you say something about “mute groups”? How is that unique?
@photographerjonathan
@photographerjonathan 3 жыл бұрын
What things are the same and what is different between this kit and the VAD 506 ? thank you.
@HR2635
@HR2635 4 жыл бұрын
Pro: Roland hardware quality. Cons: way overprized, bad sounds, crazy machine gun effect on everything .. especially toms and cymbals, no individual outputs, way to stupid small pads, sorry roland.. this is a no go.. the new PDA pads (not shown in this video) are cool though - but still: the module is 2013 tech.. not 2020.. not good enough.
@michaelschack
@michaelschack 4 жыл бұрын
HR2635 it has 2 extra individual outputs and for the rest, go try it out:)
@tylerhill6706
@tylerhill6706 4 жыл бұрын
HR2635 honestly unless you get something like the pearl module with slate drum sounds built in well every other drum module sounds fake. Let’s face it most people that use electronic kits use them for quite practice and recording in daws with drum software like addictive drums. Now if you wanna use it live then yes a module like the pearl one would be better. Other than that one no drum module sounds better than rolands
@michaeljuliano8839
@michaeljuliano8839 4 жыл бұрын
I somehow managed to make my TD-15 sound great with a user kit (all the built-ins are garbage). I haven’t been able to get another one of their kits to sound even half as good. I must have spent hours on a TD-50 at the store and still couldn’t get it to sound right. I do wish they’d focus on the quality of the base sounds and not just the adjustability, which, in my experience, is only making it harder to get a good sound out of these things.
@robertlucas9867
@robertlucas9867 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Juliano TD50 sounds are recorded in a room that cause that boxy sound so even when you turn off the effects it still has that room ambience that is not normally used for recording. Also Roland still uses limited samples and cuts them short to save space on RAM. Then the module takes the sample and loops it in a way to add decay but still too short and unnatural sounding. They have used this technique since the 80’s. This also speeds up loading from kit to kit. A lot of people don’t know that and this is an example why Roland sounds are terrible.
@DidYouReadEULA
@DidYouReadEULA 4 жыл бұрын
Love Nick and his artistry and passion for drumming, but I agree, this is way overpriced for electronic sounds. If they sounded half as good as my poplar wood Pearl Export ELX Select's with Evans heads then I would be willing to put down some cash, maybe $1200.00.
@j-man4132
@j-man4132 4 жыл бұрын
Need to get me one of these.
@grxygxds
@grxygxds 4 жыл бұрын
How many extra pads or cymbals can you add to this kit
@blackwash
@blackwash 4 жыл бұрын
Electronic kits are advancing and it's very cool, but I'm always thinking, Where are "electric" drums? I feel like with electronic drums we sort of skipped a step, and that in-between step that we skipped could be the coolest of all. Picture if guitarists only had either acoustic guitars or midi guitars... but no electric guitars. That's the reality for drummers. I wanna see drums that are real vibrating instruments but they have some kind of pickups/transducers in them.. and imagine if the acoustic sound they make is quiet enough that you can play them in an apartment. Imagine the possibilities for live sound and recording and even using effects, etc. I know Boom Theory did something like that, and Zildjian has some cymbals that work sort of like that (Gen16 I think), and possibly the Korg Wavedrum is a similar idea (not sure), so yes it's been explored, but let's see that taken to a new level. It could seriously be the future of drums... I'm not just trying to be dramatic. haha Maybe the technology would be so tricky that you might as well use acoustic drums... I dunno... but I think there's a huge hole in the drum world waiting to be filled.
@tresagah
@tresagah 4 жыл бұрын
When is Roland gonna realize their samples sound like crap!? They make the best pads/kits... BUT!!!
@gregwilliams2764
@gregwilliams2764 4 жыл бұрын
You didn’t mention 28 channels and what they can do. I have SD3 . Can I easlily go back and forth between the SD3 and the module sounds? ....because of the 28?
@weareparkerful
@weareparkerful 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah u can But get SD5 its wad better than 3
@gregwilliams2764
@gregwilliams2764 4 жыл бұрын
James Parker what the heck is SD5? Do you mean Steven Slate 5? I’m talking about Superior Drummer 3. If that’s what you mean, I prefer SD3. I’ve heard both.
@weareparkerful
@weareparkerful 4 жыл бұрын
@@gregwilliams2764 sorry my bad. SD3 is awesome so is slate drums 5. It just takes a lil more tweaking to get slate sounding really good.
@KenPritchett
@KenPritchett 2 жыл бұрын
Is it worth the extra $1200 over the TD-17kvx?
@Igorgoat
@Igorgoat 4 жыл бұрын
This is a huge improvement over the TD-25.
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi 4 жыл бұрын
But still not good enough for the price, the lack of balanced outputs, at least 4 pre-outs, integrated power block and better sounds makes this useless for live gigs. So the TD-17 is good enough for practice and the TD-50 is required for live gigs. Why does this one exist?
@Igorgoat
@Igorgoat 4 жыл бұрын
This is a much better option than a TD-50 for live as a working musician. Half the price, same sound and snare and easier to setup if you don't have a sound guy or mixer with enough channels. If you look at paper spec and compare it that way you're not gonna see the value. As someone that has played years in bands with e-drums I can easily see the appeal. The only criticism I have is the choice of kick pad. They don't last - again, in my experience, playing 6 nights a week.
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi 4 жыл бұрын
@@Igorgoat Perhaps for very low tier musicians that do not use even a proper mixer? Really lol? If you want to get an e-kit sounding anywhere near good you need a bunch of balanced pre-outs for FoH EQ.
@Igorgoat
@Igorgoat 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-sd2vi What does the amount of mixer channels have to do with musicianship. You're actually just being a dick and nitpicking points to argue. You don't need control over every drum (just to EQ???). At some point it becomes redundant to have a e-kit, when an acoustic is cheaper and the same amount of hassle.
@BatutzTheGreat
@BatutzTheGreat 4 жыл бұрын
Man. This sounded great! Wishing to get 1 soon but not so soon :p
@kingpiplup2926
@kingpiplup2926 4 жыл бұрын
Soo can you use native instruments drum kits through the drums?? If that’s possible I’m buying one lll
@spongebob-lq1vl
@spongebob-lq1vl 4 жыл бұрын
How much is that drum set?
@campbeja001
@campbeja001 2 жыл бұрын
Best review
@gregwilliams2764
@gregwilliams2764 4 жыл бұрын
I like that T-shirt.
@aardvarkmindshank
@aardvarkmindshank 4 жыл бұрын
Layers? Can trigger songs?
@Carriesaglock
@Carriesaglock 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can do the gravity blast on the snare?
@steezyboiiii808
@steezyboiiii808 3 жыл бұрын
Can I add i extra Tom and cymbal so 3 Crashes or 4 if you include ride and could like I said add a extra crash
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Steezy boi008. Thanks for your interest. You can add a total of 5 other things. One USB so you could add the new digital hi hat, a second ride, or second snare. It also has 4 other aux ins. One is a dedicated crash. The other three are user assignable. They can be either cymbals or toms. I hope this helps. Best Regards, Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
@steezyboiiii808
@steezyboiiii808 3 жыл бұрын
@@sweetwater thank you and I didn’t know this thing thing could be upgraded to the hi hat 14DH so I will definitely will be ordering soon with those upgrades thank you!
@ncschulze
@ncschulze 2 жыл бұрын
I am still looking for a way to activate the metronome's LED display only when I am using the metronome. If you activate the LED display for the click in the system menu, you have an annoying disco flashing all the time, regardless of whether you have activated the click or not.
@FootyOnTheRadio
@FootyOnTheRadio 4 жыл бұрын
god i love your vids. if i had the cash and the room i would get this. have not had a good drum for a long time.
@TheLordcasio
@TheLordcasio 4 жыл бұрын
Am I alone here, or does it not make more sense to DIY your e-drums these days? I have a cheap-o ddrum kit with helensson triggers and zildian lvc’s (going to get magnatrax triggers for that). I have a used Alesis Strike brain as well. 3-ply drum-tec mesh heads...totally quiet, great feel...and I think I’m still under 1k US dollars.
@riktascale4
@riktascale4 3 жыл бұрын
I was considering this for the studio but not after hearing the tones for the price. i will continue to program drums for the time and buy some other gear for mixing.They should give free upgrade for there modules.
@RADERFPV
@RADERFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Miguel. I think you're missing the point of these drums. Roland has no intentions of putting good sounds in the module, that would be a waste of time, and they know it. Instead, they give you some sounds to practice with, and then when it's time to record "real" sounding drums, you trigger your VST of choice. Nothing triggers drum VST's better than a Roland module with Roland pads, it's on a whole different level. Every little thing you do gets it's own midi note, and many of the VST's support the positional sensing the Roland kits offer. The only way you'll even get close is to mic up a complete acoustic kit. You even get 28 channels of midi and audio with built in audio interface. This kit is perfect for the studio.
@riktascale4
@riktascale4 3 жыл бұрын
@@RADERFPV well l did not miss the point but l also really did not understand the potential of using the set with mt midi samples for a live feel. Thanks for responding and clarifying this.
@RADERFPV
@RADERFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@riktascale4 For live situations, I'd be very hesitant as well, I see what you mean. Have a great day, happy drumming :)
@riktascale4
@riktascale4 3 жыл бұрын
@@RADERFPV l will be limiting it's use to studio recording. For live l play the steel drum not drum set per se.
@evankeal
@evankeal 4 жыл бұрын
Great kit, I could have done without the digital pads at a much lower price but I will get one anyways. How many internal songs?
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 4 жыл бұрын
So, you want the TD17KVX then....
@482jpsquared
@482jpsquared 4 жыл бұрын
@@arbogast4950 Or the VAD306. No digital pads, but larger drums and the TD-17 module.
@evankeal
@evankeal 4 жыл бұрын
@@arbogast4950 almost, the rack is very limiting on set up, otherwise it seems good, it even sounds better to me than the 27 after watching a lot of reviews of each.
@evankeal
@evankeal 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I actually am against having the full size drum types, dont need the extra weight and mass if all it is is cosmetic.
@jezusmylord
@jezusmylord 4 жыл бұрын
what are those headphones? i want to upgrade mine.
@victorzhumusic
@victorzhumusic 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that drum sticks? That looks so cool :D
@ivo4357
@ivo4357 4 жыл бұрын
are you gonna introduce a color screen on your drum modules in this century or do do we have to wait 100 more years?
@cucumbers405
@cucumbers405 3 жыл бұрын
lol how does it affect anything at all when you’re playing? Roland kits have problems but the screen is a total non issue for anyone who actually spends their time playing
@ivo4357
@ivo4357 3 жыл бұрын
@@cucumbers405 well, that's one opinion. You can ask thousands of serious drummers and some will agree, others won't. But following your argument you would gladly shave off $50 when you could buy for example a bare metal and wooden kit instead of a nice painted drum kit with exactly the same sound (after all, it's only the playing that counts, right)? You do have to look at it for many years, and in an electronic drum kit you're looking at and handling the module all the time. I know drummers who didn't buy a drum kit just for the color it was painted in.
@von_Apa
@von_Apa 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Question: If you use double pedal is the bdr pad big enough?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dekranz. Thanks so much! The pad is wide enough for a double pedal. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
@SydneyDrums
@SydneyDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Nice bit ‘o kit
@peterfactora3843
@peterfactora3843 2 жыл бұрын
How or what part do you need to be able to mount the module the way it’s mounted in this video?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Peter. Thanks so much for reaching out. There is a mounting plate that comes included with the module. If you get the complete kit, all of the parts are included to mount the module to the rack. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
@DutchKC9UOD
@DutchKC9UOD Жыл бұрын
how quiet is this kit? can it be just head phones?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater Жыл бұрын
Hey, Dutch Mr.V. Thanks for your interest. Yup. You can used only headphones as well for silent practice. Thanks again. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
@joemac7214
@joemac7214 4 жыл бұрын
Roland E kit player since the 90's had all of them td 6,7,9,10,11,15,20,30,50, soon TD 27 video should have included rim shot they missed that.. HR2635 u need to get educated on E-kits you are clueless! I play on avg. 75 gigs a year. Small bars, restaurants, large venues and outdoor festivals it is a sound mans DREAM!!!! every musician that I have played wants there current drummers to convert to E-Kits
@majorlee1
@majorlee1 4 жыл бұрын
What are the best monitors or speakers for electric drums?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Major Lee! I would say that really depends on a few things. Depending on the size of the space, there are multiple options. Generally, keyboard amps and PA systems do a good job. KAT percussion makes a drum amplifier that would be good for most practice rooms: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/KA2--kat-percussion-ka2-digital-drum-amplifier Give me a call if I can answer anymore questions. Thanks! Michael Morgan, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1607, michael_morgan@sweetwater.com
@DawesProductions
@DawesProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Does this have double kick capability
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Danny! The TD-27KV does have double kick capability and you can go about it one of two ways. Either with a standard double kick pedal on the one kick trigger or by purchasing an additional KD-10 kick tower and using another single kick pedal with it. You'll occupy one of the three auxiliary trigger inputs doing it this way, but it will be more accurate in triggering at higher speeds. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
@markjohnson1020
@markjohnson1020 4 жыл бұрын
I’m only here to hear Nick play..
@JRP3music
@JRP3music 4 жыл бұрын
Can samples be loaded from other software? I guess you can use MIDI and trigger drum samples from a laptop. The Roland drum sets sound best obviously through a proper monitor system and headphones, not smartphone or tablet speakers. The TD-20 kit my brother has, sounds great through a pair of Roland 15" full-range speakers.
@chezchezchezchez
@chezchezchezchez 3 жыл бұрын
find out?
@adrianclarke6829
@adrianclarke6829 3 жыл бұрын
How did you mount the module beyond the rack leg? You must have an additional bracket of some sort? Having a nightmare getting mine setup so that the module doesn't foul the hi-hat!
@bumperfunk
@bumperfunk 13 күн бұрын
Your question is 3 years old, so I reckon you've found a solution... but mine is: Remove the module & clamp from the bar. Lower the left horizontal bar, so the outer left stand has approx 5cm of upper space above the bar. Turn the module-clamp 90degrees and mount it on the top of the outer left stand. There you go. :-) Fixed without buying extra accessories.
@adrianclarke6829
@adrianclarke6829 13 күн бұрын
@bumperfunk thanks for taking the time to reply and help others. I used a clamp and cymbal stand!
@JRP3music
@JRP3music 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use the module to upgrade an older Roland TD-20 kit?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question. You can, but the challenge would be the pads. You wouldn't get the advantage of the digital connectivity unless you have the digital pads. It'd probably make more sense to sell the TD-20 and invest in the new TD-27KV. Let me know if you have further questions. Derek Senestraro, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1243, derek_senestraro@sweetwater.com
@JonathanMorley
@JonathanMorley 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the floor tom pad was larger. Often switching between an acoustic set with a large floor tom to an electronic set it forces you to change your playing style because the electronic floor tom is unnaturally small. One question I have is how do you keep the cymbals looks like nice, sleek jet black? I have the TD25KV and my cymbals look grey. I've tried a ton of products to make them look like new but nothing has worked.
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, 12" is minimal for a floor tom.
@FabianHorn
@FabianHorn 4 жыл бұрын
The sound is so bad. Rather invest in a Crimson and use it with a vst.
@Evan.james7747
@Evan.james7747 3 жыл бұрын
Is this kit able to have double floor Tom?
@austinfarris7205
@austinfarris7205 3 жыл бұрын
You can expand - brain has 3 extra ports!
@Evan.james7747
@Evan.james7747 3 жыл бұрын
@@austinfarris7205 thanks bro
@alfiedotwtf
@alfiedotwtf 3 жыл бұрын
Can the 909 and 808 be tuned i.e deep decay (as in are ACB), or are they PCM based?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Alfie! You can adjust the tuning and the decay length of the onboard samples on the TD27 module. It's quite a simple process. More on this on page 30 of the manual: static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/TD-27_Reference_eng01_W.pdf Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
@alfiedotwtf
@alfiedotwtf 3 жыл бұрын
@@sweetwater Thanks for that Cody!
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