Swiss VS Chinese Watches - It's closer than you think

[@J0hnny8ravo]

As a retired operative my top-most priorities have always been reliability and accuracy. So I went Eco-Drive. Of course I love mechanical timepieces and own a few of them myself, but when the sh!t hits the fan you’d wish for a solar quartz.

[@FullyLumed]

@@J0hnny8ravo yes without a doubt. I’ve featured citizen in my last video - eco drive movements are brilliant!

[@jb678901]

Check out the Baltany S206070 - Solar Military Chronograph with Calendar; Movement: Epson VS71 Solar Movement.

[@J0hnny8ravo]

@@jb678901 that’s a nice one, thanks a lot!

[@kaczynski2333]

Another great video. I tend to think COSC is just another aspect of luxury branding. I quite like the fact the NH movements are reliable, and if they fail, you can replace them for $50 (as opposed to $1,000 for a regular service. And ultimately, if precision matters, buy quartz. If it really matters, buy thermo compensated quartz.

[@FullyLumed]

@@kaczynski2333 thanks man and yes you’re totally correct!

[@Othusdragonreviews]

if it really matters, use your phone.

[@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo]

$1000 for a regular service??

[@ikeman5774]

I could care less about big name Swiss brands or whether a watch is a homage. A lot of watches these days, including Swiss brands are a homage of another brand, whether past or present. I buy what my eye likes, not blindly, I research specs. I also could care less about Swiss movements. Especially when you have to have one serviced. That being said, I have a few Swiss watches, several Chinese watches including San Martin, Steeldive, Seestern, Proxima, and Erebus. I own them because I wanted them. Buy what you like, wear what you like. That's my philosophy.

[@FullyLumed]

Yes. That’s exactly the point I was trying to make. Thanks for watching

[@watchcollector1968]

I'm really enjoying your channel, informative and humorous. Pretty amazing what the Chinese brands are offering.

[@FullyLumed]

@@watchcollector1968 thanks. I appreciate it! I’m just editing down my next video so should be ready for this evening! And yes, there are a clutch of Chinese brands that are doing serious things right now! Thanks for watching and supporting!

[@andypayne4002]

Hahhaha "im not Ben..' i was just thinking that. You sound exactly the same!!!

[@FullyLumed]

@@andypayne4002 haha you won’t be the first. Or the last 😂 Thanks for watching

[@RA-Redacted68]

I've literally purchased a Pagani Design 2024 Chronograph watch and after watching many video's micro have a lot more to prove than the already big manufacturer's. But the price difference is massive. Why spend so much on something when you can spend a fraction on something just as good if not better

[@ak983625]

I used to be a skeptic. Recently received a Addiesdive homage to the Black Bay. Look, function, and finish perfect. Small fraction of their price.

[@FullyLumed]

@@ak983625 yep! I recently had my hands on a watchdives BB58 homage and honestly, the finishing was better than my Tudor. It’s crazy how far the Chinese manufacturers have come in recent years!

[@nickthwaite1445]

Go on lad killing it

[@FullyLumed]

@@nickthwaite1445 cheers mate!

[@gregtolley3455]

Peacock is starting to make some very interesting movements.

[@FullyLumed]

Yes. I’m currently writing a review for a watch with a lovely peacock movement in it!

[@perryelyod4870]

Another advantage of the Tudor is it caters to the millions of people that dive regularly, it even indicates the minutes for air in your tank. 👌

[@FullyLumed]

I take my blackbay off to shower LOL.

[@SnabbKassa]

I'm not buying an automatic watch to tell the time. I'm buying it to get something Swiss or German.

[@saure22]

love the spurs slander

[@FullyLumed]

@@saure22 haha. Unfortunately I can’t really talk ⚒️⚒️⚒️. Thank for watching!

[@saure22]

@@FullyLumed Well that’s true, London is BLUE 🔵

[@FullyLumed]

@@saure22 looks like I’ll have to add Chelsea to my next video then 😂

[@saure22]

@@FullyLumed have a good one mate, can’t wait.

[@FullyLumed]

@@saure22 cheers mate, you too!

[@gabrielpyh5608]

SM is just totally worthy and help saves your hard-earned money elesewhere. I have 2 Czapek and still buying the SM watch in this video.

[@FullyLumed]

The SN0129 is an amazing watch. You won’t be disappointed!

[@michaelbedford8017]

No mention of long term second-hand value.

[@FullyLumed]

@@michaelbedford8017 I tried to take the focus away from the value in any sense because it’s pointless comparing a £3500 and £150 watch with prices involved.

[@a0r0a7]

You buy watches for investment?

[@bernardomartini5375]

When you buy 150 pound watch you couldnt care less about value retain

[@ivoshandor6859]

Amazing. I’m really digging this channel. I was one of your first subscribers. (I think.) Don’t forget me!

[@FullyLumed]

Haha thanks man. I appreciate the support. Hopefully the channel gets better and better (I recognise I need to improve in areas - such as filming watches, but it’ll get there)! Thanks again!

[@ivoshandor6859]

@@FullyLumed I think you’re off to a great start. With you it’s not just reviews. It’s entertainment. You’re gonna be a heavy hitter if you keep this quality up.

[@FullyLumed]

@@ivoshandor6859 thanks mate, I’m actively trying to stay away from proper reviews. There’s already plenty of reviewers on KZbin that do a better job than I could ever do, the plan was always to just create some light hearted watch-based entertainment, so it’s good to know it’s coming across as that. I can’t say it enough, but I appreciate the support!

[@hiepjake]

sfx is killing me

[@TheMcfreeze]

I really don't want this to sound racist in any way. Be objective without emotion. I've been studying watches for 2 years now. I'm a watch whore so to speak. I had no idea this stuff was going on. I'm thinking...What makes a Rolex a Rolex vs a Timex. I understand heritage, movements, so to speak but what I really see is this idea of elitism by convincing the masses that in order to walk in upper class societies of so called "white supremacy " circles you have to live how we live and "we" set the standards of beauty and elegance based solely on elevated pricing. Elite white men in European circles have not made a better watch perse than the Chinese or Japanese but they priced the watches above a price where the average man cannot afford it thus making it elite to own. Because of this we see KZbin creators of all ilks propping up the Elitest storyline that was created by Swiss"ness". Do you think a Rolex that costs $11,000 is worth that because the Elites have convinced us that they are the standard of living on this earth and the poached eggs that they eat at the hands of their butler taste and are worth more than the eggs served to Commoners? Good video sir. Your observation was fair.

[@FullyLumed]

@@TheMcfreeze thanks for watching and the input. You make some interesting points. There is certainly an artificial limitation on the luxury brands to keep the exclusivity and value high - much higher than the sum of their parts. But I do feel like we’re stepping into a new world. Every year that passes and things becoming more and more accessible (Ali express purchases arriving in a few days now) and people are recognising the marketing fluff of luxury and the actual quality the far east are now producing, effectively making the monopoly tumble.

[@TheMcfreeze]

@FullyLumed I feel the shift

[@haveugotriz4983]

Baltany’s british aren’t they?

[@FullyLumed]

They’re a Chinese brand focussing on vintage homages but the quality is exceptional

[@rmotion07]

why does this guy sound like ben the watch club guy

[@FullyLumed]

😂 we’re both from the midlands in England. But can I refer you to 0:40 in the video 😂 Thanks for watching, I hope you enjoyed

[@alexanderemmrich3597]

Damn man, are you filming your video on a watch aswell? Cant even appreciate the nice dial on the San Martin. Also forget swiss big names, china and smaller producers is where value lies. And also, if your talking about features the San Martin clearly has more hands to read time and even date of off. Its automatic so the big power reserve is mostly irrelevant and a (maybe) more durable and reliable movement is not a real feature.

[@FullyLumed]

@@alexanderemmrich3597 unfortunately it’s the thing I need to improve on. But give me a few weeks and some decent lighting to arrive and the filming will be better :)

[@SingleTrackMined]

His brother?

[@FullyLumed]

I can’t confirm whether our mums had the same milkman or not 😂

[@SingleTrackMined]

@@FullyLumed Woohoo!

[@FullyLumed]

@@SingleTrackMined 😂

[@driftadt]

You do know that pandas arnt real yeah ?

[@FullyLumed]

And dogs can’t look up

[@yolobathsalts]

There doesn't appear to be sound?

[@FullyLumed]

Thanks, are you watching in HD? it is still processing sorry, I'm not a youtube expert but i believe this is an issue on their end whilst they're processing the file sorry.

[@yolobathsalts]

@@FullyLumed no need to apologize! I was just trying to let you know in case it was an editing software problem. I was trying to watch on 1080p so that is likely what caused the issue. Cheers!

[@FullyLumed]

@@yolobathsalts thanks for the heads up mate!

[@yolobathsalts]

@@FullyLumed no problem brotherman 👌🏻