Back in the early '80's the Swiss military department decided to surplus their entire inventory of these sniper rifles. Consequently they sent a letter to every living Swiss soldier who had finished his military service, and to active duty officers. This of course long before email existed. The letter informed the recipient that these rifles would be sold on a first come, first served basis and strictly one per customer. The letter also contained a Swiss payment form which allowed you to make the payment at any post office. The fixed price was 300 Swiss francs, no more, no less. My brother, who served in the 1960's, acted immediately and received his sniper rifle in the mail. In Switzerland you can mail rifles to people as long as they're unloaded and in a box. The rifles were shipped directly from various national armouries with the scope detached and placed in the dedicated leather scope box, designed to fit the field belt. All very cool. Any of these rifles that made it to the states were likely ones sold off by private Swiss owners.
@albegt984 жыл бұрын
I was a soldier in Switzerland as a gunsmith and I confirm what Eric said ... I have seen few of the k55 ..... congratulations for your brother who had one ;-)
@ericmowrey68724 жыл бұрын
@@albegt98 Merci pour ta confirmation Alberto. I'm in Vaud, near Rolle. Tout de bon...à plus.
@HenryHardinge-c3j4 ай бұрын
now they cost 3000chf
@heugabel9908 жыл бұрын
In Switzerland we learn shooting accurate with this moveable bitops. They are loose, because you can ajust the shooting Position much faster! That makes sense! Best Regards from a Swiss Shooter. Bthw:The adjustable bitops are maybe good for bench shooting, but not for shooting in the field!
@Jaden481085 жыл бұрын
The Swiss know what they are doing. Rock on! (I'm a K-31 owner and it's brought me nothing but pleasure.)
@acdclexu6296 Жыл бұрын
i dont know a better carbine than k31.
@Mrgunsngear9 жыл бұрын
love the swiss straight pull rifles!
@Spidouz8 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't??? :)
@dudeadventure37 жыл бұрын
Phil Smith fools. That's who.
@buck19x876 жыл бұрын
Just bought my first one last weekend! Went to a small gun show and was scanning for wood objects and in the back corner on a lonely rack with some misfits it was there and the price was way low from what I'm seeing on GB so I snagged it! Now waiting on ammo.
@-tr0n9 жыл бұрын
what a nice looking rifle.
@RobWhittlestone9 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian - your criticism of the bipod being spring-loaded and you can't lean against it is also true for the Stgw. 90. It must be a Swiss thing to not expect forwards/backwards resistance from the bipod, only support of the rifle. Many thanks for this very nice review. Greetings from Switzerland. Rob
@fps0794 жыл бұрын
The bipod is engineered so the shooter can shoot down a mountain. Ian coordinated a loan of this rifle to 9-hole reviews where they briefly demonstrate: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmTGfq2JecaFatU
@Blueswailer9 жыл бұрын
You're like the Wise Wizard of weaponry or something. I've been going through your extensive backlog of videos, thoroughly enjoying them I might add, and your level of knowledge is some black belt next level stuff. Keep doing what you're doing Ian!
@lpanades9 жыл бұрын
Nice rifle. Nice explanation, like ever.
@dunxy8 жыл бұрын
There may be others who have a heap of firearms knowledge, none come close to Ians delivery, one of the best channells on youtube,period!
@Ideo7Z9 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful. Still kicking myself for not getting a pristine K31 awhile back when I had the chance.
@Flarexxxx9 жыл бұрын
gorgeous rifle
@danielstoner78077 жыл бұрын
I get the stripper clip thing but for cripessake, the K31 has a detachable mag! It seems like an enormous amount of work to re-design the whole receiver with the 15 degree cant, rather than just issuing additional mags.
@pieprincess57786 ай бұрын
Mags were expensive to make back then , that's why they made stripper clips for WW2 lot cheaper for everyone to have one mag and just feed the gun a clip instead of all these soldiers having extra mags
@Andre_Thomasson Жыл бұрын
I live in Switzerland and i feel ashamed now because I wasn't aware that this rifle existed, If i ever buy a rifle it will probably be this one
@holleyhooks13949 жыл бұрын
Ian- the man,the myth, the legend. I love the content. keep doing what you are doing.
@AlexCell339 жыл бұрын
K31 was my first gun ever. I love it.
@dyingbreed77406 жыл бұрын
Love the action on these. The Swiss knew how to build em.
@RolandImfeld6 жыл бұрын
its important to know that along of a heavy duty barrel also the rifling is much more deeper than on standart k31 barrels..
@AldanFerrox9 жыл бұрын
A really good looking weapon. And a fine piece of swiss engineering.
@NeptuneBluez9 жыл бұрын
Ian, you made my day with such a rifle. Cheers from snowy Switzerland.
@BinaryHe1ix9 жыл бұрын
That's an absolutely gorgeous rifle. The K31 is now officially on my list of rifles to pick up. I'd heard they were fantastic shooting pieces, but I don't think I ever fully realized their quality.
@rlbadger16989 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that lightly toss off comment about the k31. I went over and found a GREAT deal on a like new rifle/scope.
@GAoftheBlackFlames9 жыл бұрын
probably my favorite gun designed. it looks so nice
@buck19x876 жыл бұрын
OMG I wish..... I finally bought my first K31 last weekend. Cannot wait to take it out!
@benm59139 жыл бұрын
Dude, its Thanksgiving. You're allowed a day off. That said, I really love the daily content lately. Thanks.
@jeffmedina439 жыл бұрын
I have a swiss that I had the receiver drilled and tapped for weaver scope mounts.It took a good deal of machining to make the screw for the back mount a bit shorter to allow the bolt to cycle.But the gun stays on zero,and always goes bang.European craftsmanship to the fullest.
@nhrifle3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the Swiss. Machining better than it has to be, and handsome to boot.
@gringoloco5989Ай бұрын
I had the 3 Swiss sniper rifles in my collection, 31/42, 31/43 and 31/55. At the time, about 40 years ago, the ZFK 31/55 was sold directly by the Swiss army. At this time, 350.- SFr. if I remember well, and, by chance, I had a good friend working at the arsenal who was able chose one of the bests for me !!! The ZFK 55, or Zielfernrohrkarabiner 31/55 in German and MqLu 31/55, in French, Mousqueton à lunette 31/55 is a fantastic rifle. I remember a day when I decided with a group of friends collectors, we go to the shooting range with 6 ZFK 55. The police was training 3 rows further and we obtain better results with the 55 than these poor guys with HK and SIG with scopes. At a certain moment when I left my place for a friend having finished 3 magazines, I saw 4 policemen showing at us and even one ask me where he can buy one !!! This says all ..........
@beargillium2369 Жыл бұрын
Really glad I happened upon this video, long time fw fan but this one is truly unique
@DiggingForFacts9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Ian. I had been looking at this rifle recently and they are absolutely wonderful things. She's a long-term savings goal (provided that there's still a couple floating around Europe), but if I lived in the US this would be an easy buy. Heck it would be criminal if this sold for anything less than 5K.
@ThePowernest808 жыл бұрын
i like the Finnish SAKO sniper rifles and Lapua Bullets from Finland are exellent also
@bambam1449 жыл бұрын
very nice rifle and great video thx
@Jeremiahfull9 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great rifle...Got a 1942 K31 and have been shooting occasionally for a few years. I would love to get my hands on one of those one day. At about 3150 CHF they are pretty expensive . Great video! Like!!
8 жыл бұрын
you show some great guns...keep it up
@titaniumdiveknife9 жыл бұрын
I love snipers. Nice quickscope get Ian!
@tylergordon6969 жыл бұрын
I think I found my Christmas present to my self.
@BattlebrotherPhil9 жыл бұрын
I love how at 1:53, Ian says 'but' and the camera cuts to the butt of the rifle! :D Intentional?
@therugburnz4 жыл бұрын
Nice rifle I'm sure. Nice show from Ian. Thanx.
@RGA19449 жыл бұрын
In case someone is interested, the abbreviation ZfK stands for Zielfernkarabiner, literally carbine (Karabiner) for long-range (fern) targets (Ziel).
@HazardousMoose8 жыл бұрын
RGA1944 Close but no cigar:) ZfK stands for Zielfernrohrkarabiner. Which comes from Zielfernrohr("telescopic sight") and well Karabiner("carbine"). Generally lower-case letters in Swiss military abbreviations are used for compound nouns, that are very common in German. Zielfernrohr is such a compound noun with Ziel("target") and Fernrohr("telescope"), therefore denoted as Zf instead of Z or ZF. Greetings from Switzerland
@beefcakes274 жыл бұрын
Those bipods work wonderfully in snow....
@chancetrombley31144 жыл бұрын
The swiss were good, but I believe that Sweden had the best version of the mauser and I consider them to have the best sniper rifle. Backed up by Ian's video previous videos.
@rddn24259 жыл бұрын
that was great presentation thx beautiful rifle
@danielstoner78077 жыл бұрын
Years ago at the Wannamacher show in Tulsa, I saw for sale two *pristine* K-31 trainers chambered in .22lr, with consecutive serial numbers for $2,000 (IIRC). I could have shuffled some money around, and gotten them..... Sure wish I had.
@Spidouz8 жыл бұрын
The Zfk-55 is a nice piece of engineering. I love my K31. I never understood why we don't see any modern rifle in a 7.5x55 Swiss caliber... After all we can find modern 8x57, 6.5x55 SE, 7.62x54R, and of course modern .308 or .30-06... but virtually no modern 7.5x55 Swiss when the caliber is actually quite good and we can still find some surplus GP11 ammo. I wouldn't mind a modern Remington 700, or Savage 10 in 7.5x55 Swiss... just for fun :)
@Gysenstein12918 жыл бұрын
And they stopped the production of this ammo now... so sad. i shoot now with ammo from 93 with my 7.5 sportrifle. but i love the k31, best thing theyve ever made
@Spidouz8 жыл бұрын
Roman Schüpbach Well, we can still find plenty of surplus ammo (that's good), and if we would have some kind of modern 7.5x55 Swiss sportrifle, I have no doubt some brand would start to produce this caliber, just like we can find some new ones for 7.62x54R.
@foobar2017 жыл бұрын
There are modern target rifles in GP11, look for 'standardgewehr'.
@pierrickilann44506 жыл бұрын
You dont known the excellent SIG STG57
@Guy_GuyGuy9 жыл бұрын
Ian, have you ever gotten your hands on a Vetterli M78 rifle? They're not uncommon in the US, but definitely under-appreciated. I would love to see you go over one.
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
+GuyKappe I own one, actually. Haven't had a chance to do video on it yet.
@686caleb9 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons I would love to see a video on that gun as well.
@d33b339 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons Do you have a highlight video of your personal collection? I'd love to hear what someone with your level of knowledge and access would choose to hang on to.
@bambam1449 жыл бұрын
+Forgotten Weapons oh that would be great, if you could make a video plz.
@cougar10ag9 жыл бұрын
i have an 1870 italian vetterli thats had the italian conversions done and sleeved to 6.5mm. doesn't look too shootable. but the action is smooth and looks great on the wall
@JeSsSe664 жыл бұрын
The bipod might suck, however if the Swiss designed it there's probably a good reason behind why it is the way it is
@FBIAGENT7253 жыл бұрын
simple answer: mountains
@Andy473579 жыл бұрын
Could you look at the side mounted Starlight Scopes on the M16s in Vietnam?
@vguyver29 жыл бұрын
Looking at the tripod, I can sort of figure what they were aiming for. Sniping was more of a challenge than what most snipers were expecting when trying to go prone during the Winter War between Finland and the USSR. This tripod seems to be one that would allow for more much difficult sniping positions than a fixed forward sniping position, especially in forests and mountains. Those impractical sniping positions over some jagged rocks suddenly became ideal spots I think. It would probably be more of a hinderance in urban combat though, considering the weight and the tripod if you wanted to shoot on a body angle.. This is purely conjecture on my observations. I'm in no way an expert.
@sausagebobgrett34019 жыл бұрын
So proud to be swiss made!
@Alome99 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome rifle, however my bank account would disagree with me.
@LeeEnfield77569 жыл бұрын
Always thought it seemed very Swiss to make a new rifle with a canted action rather than just offsetting the scope to the side. Plus I really like that quick-detach mount. Anyone know if it keeps zero after being removed and reinstalled?
@IIIDasBrotIII2 жыл бұрын
yesterday I had this beauty in my hands, I like it a lot. Only the bipod is a little bit weird :D
@ThePerfectRed9 жыл бұрын
I heard these bipods were not meant to be used in a laying position (leaning into the bipod) but rather squatting or sitting. Is there somebody from Switzerland here who can explain how these long bipods were used?
@Swarm5099 жыл бұрын
+Funny Farmer I was about to ask the same question. The layout of it makes me wonder if there were specific "positions" and ways of holding the rifle the Swiss military called for.
@minutemanqvs9 жыл бұрын
+Swarm509 The purpose is the same as on a Dragunov, so you can follow moving targets.
@RCP-11369 жыл бұрын
That is possible- would make more sense if you look at how the bipod is mounted. I wondered too, it looks like the bipod has been mounted the wrong way. Btw i was in the swiss army and the current rifle (sig550/stgw90) uses a similar springloaded bipod - only that it is rotatet 180° and shorter. And they teach us to lay down on the ground to shoot further distances. So it is quite possible that the Zfk 55 rifle was ment to be shot in a kneeling position. Sorry for bad english;)
@ZoSo19737 жыл бұрын
swissdeath13 That's so cool and potentially useful
@PapaSchultz744 жыл бұрын
Long bipod monted in the rear allows for enourmous angle of shooting specially if you shoot from a mountain/fort wall downwards or from prone to a high position. Rifles made for Swiss terrain.
@Nic_odd9 жыл бұрын
The best sniper of the 20th century.
@douglasfulmer54839 жыл бұрын
+The Old Nick Um. No. That is just ridiculous to define the ultimate sniper rifle, let alone in the age of firearms rebirth after arguably 300 years of stagnant development, ending in the 1840's. The 20th century had much more modern designs for this, and you can't really define a sniper rifle.
@Nic_odd9 жыл бұрын
+Douglas Fulmer 20TH no 20s_ You understood...
@douglasfulmer54839 жыл бұрын
The Old Nick I don't know what you mean. I thought you meant 20th century.
@deepbludreams9 жыл бұрын
+The Old Nick Not so sure about that, the 20th century ended in the year 2000, pretty sure if you compare this to a SR25 it would lose every time.
@SIRslipperyasp916 жыл бұрын
A sniper rifle spends 99.9% of its time not being fired as the Sniper drags it through the bush. I'd disqualify this based on weight alone.
@michaelexman54747 жыл бұрын
I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT A ZFK-55 MY DREAM GUN
@dunxy8 жыл бұрын
Thats my kind of Swiss army knife!
@therugburnz4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the kind if knife one takes to a gun fight that's more than 500 metres away from you.
@douglasfulmer54839 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain to me how he's been doing this for about 6 years and only has 180,804 subscribers? He should have 3 times that for his absolute quality.
@brisnbetsinher50659 жыл бұрын
thank you
@brbilheimer9 жыл бұрын
The bipod seems at an odd place to me. I image you would have a hard time going prone and having it be useful
@AndromedaDestination9 жыл бұрын
I remember watching on your channel a video of a gun with rotated action.
@deviation10009 жыл бұрын
It'd be great if Ian could get his hands on an FR-F1/FR-F2 sniper rifle!!!
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
+deviation1000 Yes it would!
@retroicdescent9 жыл бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving, Ian!
@Kman31ca8 жыл бұрын
Hold on to your K 31s. There aren't many more coming in.
@thelaughinghyenas79629 жыл бұрын
Cool! Thank you.
@MikeM03317 жыл бұрын
before you mentioned the FG42 style muzzle brake, I thought it looked a lot like an M14 with the nut in the center of the brake.
@guillermocingolani33073 жыл бұрын
Excelente como siempre.
@basp-ef7jx2 жыл бұрын
I like the bipod. It just requires different training and technique.
@elektro30009 жыл бұрын
The guns in your videos are almost always interesting, but rarely do I watch one and then really want to own the gun. I WANT THIS GUN! $4250-$5500?? Ouch. Nevertheless, I just added it to my list of guns I will [sooner or later] own.
@infin1ty8504 жыл бұрын
You know what makes me really sad? I'm watching this on a Saturday and unless Ian graces us with a shooting video on Sunday, I won't be able to watch any new Forgotten Weapons when I'm taking care of my morning business.
@cheguevara33923 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂 The Swiss Army at that time called it something like "The Newbie Rifle", the older guys gave it to the new and younger one to carry them in the Alps! It's a Militia, and when they get together for training, they put it in the shoulders of the younger one! 😁 The Bipod is meant for shooting down from a high position (that's why the younger guys should carry them on a Mountain position)
@bennyribs9 жыл бұрын
Ian, Where did you go to school and what did you study? I am the research coordinator at a military museum near my college and I see myself doing something like this after graduation
@douglasfulmer54839 жыл бұрын
+bennyribs I believe he has an article or two about that on his website. Maybe he will give a link when he sees this XD.
@TheBitwise9 жыл бұрын
+bennyribs He mentions it during his last Q&A -- take a look at the description for that video and there should be a shortcut to jump to the right time.
@ForgottenWeapons9 жыл бұрын
+bennyribs I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering Technology from Purdue.
@vguyver29 жыл бұрын
+bennyribs also, check out the FW forums, there are several like minded folks over there. These people often help track down details that Ian may of missed and some are just as well qualified in making their own videos.
@vguyver29 жыл бұрын
+bennyribs hope you get around to doing such videos. Would be nice to see more people online do similar video's. Ian can't get a hand on every firearm out there, so aside from a different viewpoint on firearms, it would help to further educate people on these rare instruments that slip through the cracks of history otherwise.
@act43068 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous gun, awesome piece of history. When I'm rich. . .when I'm rich.
@ConTheDon1878 жыл бұрын
ohhhh man. That's nice.
@ikueguge77658 жыл бұрын
that bi-pod is like a spider - I'm impressed with it Ian ;) --~o
@Chasmodius6 жыл бұрын
The bipod legs are really quite elegant-looking. But how helpful are they for stable positioning if they're placed right under the rifle's center of gravity like that?
@ZGryphon9 жыл бұрын
The remarks about Switzerland's good reputation instantly kicked off a mental replay of the old Kids in the Hall sketch. "It's time, it's time - oh! It's time to hate the Swiss." I'd link to it, but KZbin doesn't want to let me paste things today. Just search "sick of the Swiss" and you'll find it. :)
@alanniederlitz69503 жыл бұрын
Awesomely cool!
@Fadedglory3432 жыл бұрын
6 years later, K-31 is not so cheap.
@pcmacd Жыл бұрын
I believe the sling is on inside/out? Maybe just the clip is backwards....
@gregsutton240011 ай бұрын
Did they go with that form of bipod to assist in shooting up and down hill?
@munkSWE889 жыл бұрын
that rifle would go nice with my swiss M70 Alpenflage parka.
@noahclark19248 жыл бұрын
you have an awesome job :)
@lagancider61536 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, but i'm not actually a shooting buff, I was wondering what a "flyer" is, and what exactly is the issue with the muzzle, doe's the bullet hit it at an angle? Sounds like it could be dangerous...thanks.
@ForgottenWeapons6 жыл бұрын
A flyer is a round that hits outside the general grouping made by the other rounds. It could be due to an imperfection in the bullet that causes it to fly slightly off target, or from the shooter making a poor shot, or other factors.
@alexandermole32607 жыл бұрын
I have a .308 converted standard model of that straight pull, would that be an American conversion?
@richardsheil35038 жыл бұрын
could u do a video on modern red dot sights such as the Eotech and the aimpoint series of sights
@Christoff19969 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me why bother with a stripper clip system on a rifle like this or a lee enfield if the mag is detachable? would be just easier and quicker to load the mag by inserting a pre-loaded mag rather than with the striper clips? great rifle though!
@eaglewi9 жыл бұрын
not really that forgotten, now if you came across the sig stgw 57 i feel those are more rare in the usa.
@leeholloway40079 жыл бұрын
magazines are not interchangeable mate .from the top of the mag release to the top lip on a k31mag is 8mm and 10mm on a zfk55
@NormanMatchem9 жыл бұрын
Damn, I bet that chunky muzzle break adds a lot of weight, and that bayonet lug? The Swiss take a page from the book of the Japanese? If I were designing it, I'd have done away with the muzzle break and bayonet lug, introduce a smaller/lighter flash hider at most. Those spikes on the bipod probably makes it easier to use in dirt, but on a flat table or on a rock, yeah, I imagine it'd be quite annoying. HOWEVER, it looks like you might be able to hold onto the left leg with your left hand while holding the pistol grip of the stock with your right hand. This might help keep things more manageable. Able to use either optics or irons without removing the scope by the looks of it, that's always nice. Able to use clips on a scoped rifle, that's a rare feature, typically only able to do that if the scope is off to the side like on a Type 96/99 sniper, and I imagine the M1D (Garand sniper), since you don't want the clip bashing up against the bottom of the scope, and single loading it with cartridges can be rather finicky in my experience. All in all, I think I'd prefer just a No.4 Mk.I(T). I figure it's likely lighter, if it doesn't have a bipod that wouldn't bother me, advantage of a faster action as well as 10-rnd mag, floating barrel, no bulky muzzle device. That said though, I'm not sure if the irons are available with the optic in place, and I'm also not sure if you can use clips while the optic is in place, so there's some give and take.
@NormanMatchem9 жыл бұрын
Caleb Davis Heavier barrel and the optic would add a bit of weight on their own, which would lessen felt recoil.
@MongolordD9 жыл бұрын
How much does one of these cost? And is the Ammo expensive?
@grafblutwurst47759 жыл бұрын
+MongolordD I'd assume it takes 7.5x55 swiss. goes pretty cheap here, then again I'm sitting at the source. Considering there were not many build of those rifle the price might be rather steep. But you can find K31 (basically the "base model" of this rifle) for a couple hundreds. Edit: Auction page says 4250$-5500$ www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/66/lid/1536
@disappointedbyhumanity22599 жыл бұрын
+chakracatx Generally they're a fair bit more expensive than that. I average about $1.20 a round.
@grafblutwurst47759 жыл бұрын
It's around a buck a round here. in comparison 308. is a ~1.50
@disappointedbyhumanity22599 жыл бұрын
chakracatx I normally get PPU because it's the most available stuff.
@throttlemccrackin18779 жыл бұрын
+chakracatx Surplus 7.5x55 is very good quality ammo. I have a few cases laying around for when my K31's get hungry.
@154Kilroy6 жыл бұрын
Only sold for $3k?!? Compared to some things (most) I see sold at auction this is quite reasonably priced! Probably cost that much to make... 😂
@Theporkchopsandwhich9 жыл бұрын
muzzle brake looks similar to a griffin armaments flashcomp
@danklvac47467 жыл бұрын
I would've gotten a K31 if the ammo wasn't so expensive.
@Kman31ca8 жыл бұрын
Seen one of these go on sale in Canada and it sold in hours. For.......5000$
@Halfpape9 жыл бұрын
Für meinen Geschmack könnten die Videos länger sein, mit mehr Details! Ansonsten sehr gut, ich schaue jedes Video!
@skunkz0r8 жыл бұрын
swiss quality
@therugburnz4 жыл бұрын
Swiss quality rifle plus Swiss rifle training equals a safe and protected country.
@joejoelesh11977 жыл бұрын
Are cartridges commercially available?
@ForgottenWeapons7 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@nicholassrfliess4 жыл бұрын
I still have a K 11 Carbine, and a long rifle 11...
@primedknight59069 жыл бұрын
Are there any swedish guns at the auction? just asking since im from sweden
@exploatores9 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Tauriainen No, Not any military rifles anyway.
@tomt8103 жыл бұрын
Anybody else here 2021 because of the classic firearms giveaway?
@Weapon_exe3 жыл бұрын
Yup lol man I want to win this
@MasterBlobby9 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand the logic behind the positioning of that bipod. Otherwise awesome rifle and video Ian!.
@stevehuntley30894 жыл бұрын
"Let me show you it's features!"
@sidneyhuckabee69747 жыл бұрын
probably a dumb question but whats the difference between a charger and a stripper clip?