Switch 2 Hardware Details Have Surfaced! (RAM, Storage, & More)

Thanks to some newly-available shipping information regarding Switch 2 hardware components, we can glean a little more information about the specs and capabilities of Nintendo's upcoming hybrid -- and we break them down for you right here!
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#nintendoswitch #switch2 #nintendoswitch2

[@aisback1990]

I'm gonna call it the Switcharoo until it gets an official name

[@jgp1s]

Fair enough I'd say. Not a bad placeholder imo

[@aisback1990]

@@jgp1s plus it's fun to say.

[@Thee_Deputy]

Ngl I actually kinda like this name lmao.

[@trashboy7032]

I like this. Or maybe the Switch UP since everything is getting an upgrade.

[@leeartlee915]

lol. I like it.

[@jpbo98]

For the Switch 2, I hope the joycons are replaced with bongos and you can only play Donkey Konga on it

[@leeartlee915]

The dream. The true Nintendo fan dream.

[@cragworks]

Hello this is Mr Miyamoto. Please delete your comment because you are correct. -Mr Miyamoto

[@wesreleases6346]

@@cragworksMiyamoto’s most genius move yet!

[@tedioustotoro4885]

And, with the microphone in the system, you can play Odama how it was originally intended.

[@leeartlee915]

@@tedioustotoro4885 While it would be dope for Nintendo to make their console work with legacy software, no way they do it.

[@lukemoonwalker8444]

Regarding storage: I'm positive the Switch 2 will support MicroSDs just like Switch 1. A couple months ago SAMSUNG made the headlines due to their new Express MicroSDs that were developed in collaboration with an undisclosed "console manufacturer". The Express MicroSDs feature faster loading, probably to accomodate the necessity of Switch 2.

[@RJH755]

Interesting...

[@RJH755]

Interesting... If Samsung is manufacturing the SoC and screen for the Switch 2 as recent rumors suggest then it's make sense they'd work with them for a new external storage solution as well

[@Starius65]

The next system will definitely have MicroSD support, it's industry standard at this point. I don't understand why they don't even consider that a possiblity.

[@leeartlee915]

That sounds like new technology…. so I doubt Nintendos involved.

[@alysdexia]

Switch 1 → Switch; fast → swift

[@watainiac]

My hope is that this transition is similar to the NES > SNES era, where the hardware and the games just go from great to even better. The Switch generation has already been so, SO good to us. They just need to keep it going.

[@leeartlee915]

I would be so down with this kind of advancement. It’s also a big reason why I’d be okay with the next console not being backwards compatible. Would that be disappointing? Sure but if it keeps cost down and allows Nintendo to make serious advancements in technology, it will be worth it. To me at least.

[@ohword3333]

Mario odyssey looked beautiful now imagine a second version 7 years later on the switch 2

[@KoolAidManOG]

Re: MicroSD card, there is a relatively new MicroSD standard that has SSD-like speeds. Samsung manufactures it, and if they use it I assume that price-per-GB will be higher than normal MicroSD cards but it would be viable

[@MansBestFriend_]

Too confusing, I can already imagine the back and forth and articles explaining which microSD card is compatible with which, what a nightmare.

[@michaellarue5161]

@@MansBestFriend_ I agree the current labeling on micro sd cards looks like a foreign language to me. I have to search online to figure out what all the numbers on them mean

[@Professor_Poots]

Shocked that no leaker has taken the name Nintendo snitch yet

[@Dairunt1]

Pyoro deserves that title

[@ShadowRaptor1O1]

@Professor_Poots I don't think that will happen. If I remember correctly, that has never happened before. The project code names have leaked before (the Wii U leaked as Project Cafe and the Switch OLED leaked as Project Aula) but I don't think a Nintendo console has ever had its actual name leaked ahead of an official announcement. In fact, I remember Gamexplain interviewed one of the actors that appeared in the original Nintendo Switch reveal trailer, and that guy even said he was googling "Nintendo Switch" for weeks leading up to the reveal because he wanted to see if the name leaked, but he said each time he tried, Google would give him barely any results because back then, "Nintendo Switch" wasn't even a term indexed by Google yet. So yeah, even back then, the name never leaked. Judging by past events, it seems only a small handful of people actually get to know the product name early on. Like, even with the Switch; when Eurogamer leaked exactly what the console was and how it looked and worked, they still kept calling it the NX. They even said the leaker who gave them that info just kept calling it NX. Hell, even the manufacturer leaks from China who knew what the hardware itself looked like...kept calling it the NX. The name "Nintendo Switch" seems like it was being REALLY protected, up until just before the reveal. @Dairunt1 It could potentially happen this time, since Pyoro already outright said the way he gets all his info is because he has sources who can see unlisted KZbin videos. However since he already publicly stated that, Nintendo might throw a curveball by either not having the trailer uploaded to their KZbin channel until the day it actually goes up, or by titling the video something that doesn't reveal anything, like "First Look at the next Nintendo Switch" or something similar.

[@Professor_Poots]

@@ShadowRaptor1O1 I just meant the leaker online having his alias as Nintendo snitch...

[@Dairunt1]

@@ShadowRaptor1O1 I remember that interview. I think they deleted it, maybe the guy got NDA'd. Although, does it really matter if we know the name the day before? It's not like the name is going to be something that will make you lose sales, it's not like it's going to be called Wii U.

[@ShadowRaptor1O1]

@@Professor_Poots oh fuck lmao I have an old ass phone that doesn't let me see the comment at the same time as I am typing my reply, I thought u said something to the effect of "I'm surprised nobody has leaked the name of the Switch 2 yet" and just started typing 😂😂😂

[@csolisr]

The only two things I care about are: - Can it still play my old Switch games? - And, can it play last-gen Switch games at full 60 FPS?

[@delta8584]

some games are gonna need updates to be 60fps! Nintendo doesn't care about framerate but I hope they'll try

[@DankMemeCenterX]

The 2nd point would require them to manually update games to take advantage of newer hardware even for the ones with uncapped fps

[@fangorn875]

I will gladly replay ToTk on switch 2..even though I already played more than 350 hours in current gen 😂

[@uponeric36]

@@DankMemeCenterX Yeah no shot Nintendo would ever update last gen titles imo; at best you can expect a deluxe edition rerelease for Switch 2 for $60.

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

​@@uponeric36 Yeah Nintendo is not pro consumer enough to update the games you already payed for. They would just resell them to you for 60$.

[@NathanielBandy]

In regards to voice chat and messaging, I'd almost just prefer Discord integration instead. It'd be a lot easier to connect with people to game with that I actually care about that way

[@kayh.4114]

But its a very american/western way - not a universal solution. Or am i wrong?

[@lpnp9477]

Personally I'd prefer not to have a spy vector be the backend for video game voice chat

[@danimedina4969]

​@@kayh.4114that might be true that it's a very western solution, but Sony already added support for discord integration a few months ago. Not sure on Xbox, but Sony is also a Japanese company so 🤷‍♀️. Maybe they have another service in Japan but I doubt it

[@kayh.4114]

@@danimedina4969 But Sony is an investor of Discord. Also, if we are very honest - Sony is a japanese company in paper, but especially PlayStation is absolutely a western oriented brand. Every game, every 3rd party exclusive is tailored towards the western audience.

[@sonchezz]

Just to be clear a 1gb connection is good for downloading games. Outside of that, for gaming just about any bandwidth is fine. Latency has always been the biggest issue when it comes to gaming and bandwidth has not been that important since the days of 56k modems. A 10mb connection already has overhead compared to what any online game uses, with most games using less than 3mb.

[@gamecubeplayer]

3mb? do you mean 3mb or 3mbit? because 3mb is 24mbit

[@sonchezz]

@@gamecubeplayer Sorry if what I said was confusing, bit not byte. Network bandwidth is nearly never measured in byte.

[@gamecubeplayer]

​@@sonchezzyou should always say "mbps" & "mb/s" because they're clearly different

[@MedalionDS9]

The rumored screen for the Switch 2 was an 8 inch 1080p LCD screen

[@SheezyBites]

Only 1080p? Wow, we're getting the Wii again where everyone is moving onto 1440p as standard for handheld screens and Nintendo is dragging it's heels. Is it at least 120 fps?

[@TheAugoosetus]

@@SheezyBitesthe PS Portal is 1080p/60fps and the Steam Deck is 800p/60fps. You’ll be fine.

[@SheezyBites]

@@TheAugoosetus With the release of Nintendo's next gen console the PS Portal is about to be last gen and honestly the portal is an end of life peripheral it's not meant to sell a PS5... The Steam Deck is more complicated because it's PC adjacent and most people who care are going to play on a gaming laptop at 1440p and/or 144fps (because let's be real laptops don't do modern games at 4K because PC gamers play native not DLSS) so the choice is different there... but given my mum's phone is 1440p now, 1080p is just a very backwards choice.

[@EmoryIllustrated]

Well isn't convenient you can plug into your TV to get 1440p? Also, your mum's 1440p phone is $800+. There's no way the Switch 2 is over $400

[@EmoryIllustrated]

IIRC a 400$ phone today still has a 1080p screen

[@goldmemberpb]

GVG following in Furukawa's footsteps and giving us a video at nearly 2 am est time.

[@joejoe2658]

and making fake facts "journalism"... for a start joycons are full of bells n whistles. does a fn xbox have gyro? or haptics? or cardboard vr? honestly these crew know nothing about nintendo. ohh, and DF mentioned a 1080 screen several times, noobs.

[@Gamesforus1]

​@@joejoe2658don't people like u have school in the morning

[@lpnp9477]

It's daylight time now, not standard

[@PhotonSieve]

@@joejoe2658Ask your mother to limit your internet time, this isn’t healthy.

[@mildlydispleased3221]

The world doesn't revolve around the United States.

[@rvbremastered7527]

The Steam Deck and ROG Ally do have native ray-tracing support, but the addition of the Tensor Cores will make everything a lot easier to work with on Switch.

[@BloodlessWolf]

With Xbox falling apart and almost nobody wanting a PS6 yet (or even within the next couple years). A super powerful Switch 2 will have plenty of time to really be successful.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

That’s why it won’t be super powerful. The lowest price strategy is still there. Why include more GPU power when most game can run at 1080p60 and the transition can be safer with not raising the $349 price.

[@By-the_Way]

I'm going to sound like a skeptic but is 4K that much in need? Honestly speaking, I've never really felt the atmosphere of "4K has truly become a household commodity" compared to how VHS switched to DVD and CRT television changed to LCD / OLED television if you get what I mean.

[@ThinkTinkh]

How big is your TV?

[@razorbackroar]

I’m not even trying to be rude but that has to be the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of my life. It’s necessary how can you not be sick of looking at things made from 2001 1080 1080p has been around forever and it looks like dog shit. Get your real 4K TV with HDMI 2.1 adjust the HDR then you’ll feel like watching Lord of the rings for the first time every time you play video game. Yes 4K is absolutely necessary at the bare minimum considering both consuls are now 8K

[@mitchellb4551]

probably because to many gamers still hold on to council wars and I fear not having the buzz words will create apathy and bring out all the old" Nintendo is for babies" comments again.

[@pokemonduck]

@@razorbackroar not really, you can still clearly tell when a game is a game no matter how realistic the graphics are. People still look fake and they still can't do trees properly lol

[@WorksOfMagic]

9:34 Small correction. Both the Steam Deck & ASUS ROG Ally are capable of running RTX enabled games. Performance isn't ideal in most games, though there's a few that at least meet the 30fps requirement. Wouldn't be surprised if the Lenovo Legion GO or the MSi Claw are capable of running RTX as well.

[@MeatNinja]

Pretty sure those don't have dedicated RT hardware, even if they can 'run' RT games.

[@tipitii3]

Games that really need to be patched/upgraded are third party games. Better framerate and visuals. I wish developers would come back to these games to patch them for Nintendo's new hardware. But I am doubtful Nintendo would do something like that for their own games. They could simply just unlock the framerate and leave it there. No better visuals.

[@ReachStudioPro]

This is where dynamic resolution set games are going to shine. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 & 3 are going to look great with the proper resolution and that requires no patch. Just start the game on Switch 2 and it will automatically be played at the highest set resolution it's supposed to have.

[@jacobmonks3722]

I want digital purchases and the NSO apps to carry over, and I want an eshop that doesn't gasp and wheeze when scrolling through games.

[@chuckbatman5]

GOD yeah the eShop runs soooo slowly it does feel like it's creaking forward barely functioning

[@TakisEnjoyer]

I'm happy to know that one of GVG members also got scammed by non existent 2TB SD Cards 😅

[@michaellarue5161]

Exactly 1.5tb micro sd cards are still pretty new. I put one in my steam deck, but there is no real 2tb ones.

[@TakisEnjoyer]

@@michaellarue5161 I think there was one released earlier this year, but I'm not 100% sure in how real it is since big SD card manufacturers still cap at 1.5 TB

[@alysdexia]

@@michaellarue5161write properly

[@willcooper8028]

6:17 This would be cool to see in promotional material, but I don’t think they should show it in the reveal. Not only will most consumers be unable to tell the difference (or really care if they can tell), but it could also create Wii U-esque confusion to see staple Switch 1 games in the Switch 2 reveal.

[@twincherries6698]

Also I really think he's overselling the appeal it would have to the point of putting it in the main trailer. If anything it could have some people mad that they gotta buy a new console to "fix" their games. You know what public reception can be like.

[@chuckbatman5]

​@@twincherries6698I also think Nintendo themselves would see it this way. They seem to view a lot of their games as unaging monoliths, so I really can't imagine them directly pointing out previous hardware limitations impacting their game and saying "well on the new hardware they won't!". Upgrading games sure, but marketing it like that never

[@AbruptAvalanche]

Wait, Capcom had to push for Nintendo to bump up the Switch RAM to 4 GB? Were they really planning on only having 2 GB initially? With half of it taken up by the OS, that would've been atrocious. Thank you, Capcom.

[@HouseHawk62]

Yep 😂 Capcom highkey saved the Switch in a lot of ways. They said I’ll be damned if we put monster hunter on this system with that low of memory which…….is sad when you think about it. Higher ups at Nintendo are….an interesting bunch to be sure.

[@Dairunt1]

Apparently 3GB, but still. Also Sakurai considered 8-Player Smash would have been a docked-only feature because he was not sure of the screen size and resolution. Apparently they were going with less than 720p at some point.

[@yukoncornelius5189]

Switch 2 being LCD is the smart decision because it will keep the price down which is going to be more important for a lot of people. Most people primarily play in docked mode anyway so they will appreciate the cheaper price. Selling an OLED as a more premium option for people who want but keeping the standard as LCD would be the best.

[@Jackie_burnp]

Are you sure most people play on docked mode? Asking in good faith cuz all my friends play on handheld, esepcially the casuals Was there ever like a survey or some stats released related to it?

[@cwega2463]

@@Jackie_burnpthere’s literally only estimates from 2017, which stated 70 docked and 30 handheld. it’s really a guessing game. but i would also guess mostly docked. the switch isn’t as mobile or portable as some people give it credit for. it’s just a bit too big to be as portable as a DS for example. ik you said most of your friends play in handheld, but i don’t believe that’s the case in most places. i don’t know anyone who has played in handheld mode since 2018 besides literally one person.

[@simariocrossing]

I really hope the OLED drops soon after if this is the case. After having a Steam Deck OLED I can never go back lol

[@dometalican1990]

Not only that, OLED can have potential issues later on (see Green lines, screen burn-in, etc).

[@leeartlee915]

I think keeping the cost down should actually be their number one concern. Hence why I’ve been skeptical of them keeping backwards compatibility. Imagine a world where they have two prototypes. In one, Nintendo keeps it 100% backwards compatible and the console cost $500. In the other, it just has new tech. which will allow for more advanced games/graphics and it cost $400. To the average consumer, which do you think they’d be more concerned about: cost or backwards compatibility? Try to get beyond your own bias. Really think of the average consumer.

[@MedalionDS9]

microsd cards have a wide array of performance abilities... some of them can be comparable to SSD.. after all, the Steam Deck can run games off them as opposed to the built in NVME ssd

[@BKaimana]

14:02 I heard Samsung announced they were making a new line of faster SD cards called sd Express, and that they were made in collaboration with a partner (maybe nintendo)

[@ironicdivinemandatestan4262]

SD Express has been a format for a while

[@James-gj8rn]

I just hope it has a Lite version again, that thing is a game changer i use it as my primary Switch now while having the TV one as my secondary Switch, it is AMAZING

[@thelegendofstonecoldstevea3205]

You know you can just use your TV switch in handheld right?😂

[@inanewbugatti]

@@thelegendofstonecoldstevea3205 must be sooo hard to take it out of the dock 😂

[@James-gj8rn]

@@thelegendofstonecoldstevea3205 it's unwieldy, it's not comfortable to hold

[@James-gj8rn]

@@inanewbugatti i prefer the smaller form factor of the Lite

[@Yarnooee]

me too, especially after hearing the rumor that says switch 2 will have 8-inch screen. i hate bulky design that every other umpc companies making right now.

[@fivestringpat]

I'd expect Nintendo switch online expansion to be the path to performance patches on first party titles

[@Rman1228]

Boom. This is the perfect way to appease gamer enthusiasts without hurting their bottom line too much. Adds a lot of value to NSO anyway

[@rhettmitchell]

Hmmmm that could be interesting

[@NotAlwaysYou]

If they cut the storage expansion to dock only... I hope Nintendo adds Streetpass back as a fun way to have your library interact with the world

[@escargoat8552]

They're not going to repackage games just for enhanced performance. That's not only the least Nintendo thing they could do, but it takes away from potentially one of the biggest draws of the Switch 2, especially as an upgrade for people who already own the Switch. These things should and likely would be enabled natively. I think Nintendo understands that the message of, "hey, your favorite Switch games are better on Switch 2" is way too valuable to pass up. The upgrade fee is a different conversation though. I could see that happening for special cases with more radical changes. Repackaging would also require adding new content to justify buying the same game all over again, which would cut into development for brand new games and probably wouldn't even work as a strategy.

[@Technically_Techy]

28:56 the main issue with audio is that the switch only supports uncompressed sound aka linear pcm which only goes threw hdmi so toslink stuff wont give surround sound or sounds jank. The best way is threw hdmi. Theres a thing called earc on tvs that would work with the switch. Just plug the speakers hdmi in the earc port and turn it on on the tv and switch to the switch on the tv and it should work.

[@akaimizu1]

It’s 32GB on the original Switch and the SwithLite. It’s 64GB on the Switch OLED. I definitely know, because I’m one of those who have enough switch games to use over 20GB of internal for Save Files alone. So moving that over to the OLED gave me lots more space for them, again. Noting, Saves use internal storage only. I still think it will have SD or MicroSD, just because the tech on those cards, and the high capacity of these cards, for a small enough price, just keeps improving. So in a way, the 3rd party card tech might be leaned on for the next 8 years. Which they’re kind of reliable for improving over that time. They won’t be stagnant.

[@sillyali]

13:25 It's rumored that the Switch 2 will make use of the upcoming MicroSD Express standard, a standard launching later this year which will give MicroSD cards similar levels of speed to an SSD. Nintendo is rumored to be one of the very first companies to be taking advantage of this standard for the Switch 2.

[@RabbidTheNabbit]

I don't see how the OS would require 3GB of ram just for added voice chat and messaging, the xbox 360 used 32mb for its entire OS and had those features

[@osrevad]

They want to keep the instant transitions between game and OS. But now they can add music to the store, without the awful loading times of the Wii U

[@RabbidTheNabbit]

@@osrevad I doubt music is worth an extra 2GB

[@Draggobuttboi]

When they added the zoom in feature or groups or the ugly app to make game icons the switch didn't slow down. In built voice chat, simple themes or music for the shop channel wouldn't slow things down either. There are two reasons i can think of: to fit in with the switches boring soulless branding and to minimise methods for the homebrew community to use.

[@cookeecutkk]

Having the possibility to plug-in an SSD in the dock and then transfer games onto the Switch would be great. You could use the dock as offline storage and take only the games you need on the Switch without needing to constantly keep re-downloading from the e-shop.

[@ThinkTinkh]

256gb of storage is literally the absolute maximum I expected the switch 2 to have tbh

[@gensoBouken]

Regarding the concept of storage of games on the dock. Just remember in order for the console to seamlessly switch, the active game would always have to be in the internal storage. Otherwise if you pull it off the dock you’d lose your connection to that data.

[@Entropic_Alloy]

Considering how a non-trivial number of Switch games have an uncapped framerate, it'd be cool if the games just "worked" without needing compatibility patches.

[@amirgarcia547]

The Switch 2 being about slightly above the PS4 would definitely be a large leap, considering that most games nowadays are still playable on PS4. And with DLSS being a thing, it might mean we’ll also get some PS5 ports as well, and so it overall sounds like a major and promising next step when it comes to Nintendo’s tech. And it’ll hopefully mean we see plenty more current third-party games for it as well, and definitely *not* those horrendous cloud versions.

[@hggfhh4449]

It will be too graphically inept and the switch 2 will fail. I'm calling it.

[@ThibautMahringer]

And you're only talking about GPU performance. Pretty sure the Cortex A78 CPU that will be used in Switch 2 smokes the Jaguar cores used in PS4 / One

[@hggfhh4449]

@ThibautMahringer it better if it wants a chance. Switch 2 will just barely be able to do some multiplats at worst if it wants half the success the switch has. Which would be great. Still, over 70 million would still be successful.

[@ThibautMahringer]

@@hggfhh4449 I have no doubt that it will play more multiplatform games than Switch. Switch is so limited compared to a base PS4 and still managed to run some. Nowadays, most games would still be playable on PS4 with smart cuts that doesn’t make the experience so much worse. Having a handheld more capable than PS4 will undoubtedly make it a solid console. Success will also depend on the 1st party games, firstly the launch games. Let’s see what we’ll get.

[@andyfritter]

Brandon Miracle sounds like a fictional character

[@HunterGoodin]

I remember on the 360 using the Kinect next to the TV for voice chat in Halo Reach with friends. We all used the Kinect for party chat. It worked pretty well. Even though it was next to the TV making loud shooty sounds and “double kill” voice snippets, it did a great job of sound isolating our voices. I think that the mic being attached to the console in the dock next to the TV isn’t all that bad. Especially since Nintendo likes those kind of weird engineering things. The company that created the Switch with a seemless docking/undocking and Joycon attach/detach system, the same Nintendo who worked with Pokémon Co to create the best most accurate step counter to date, to put software development cycles I nto an even better version of the voice isolation system the Kinect had. Also, it just feels so Nintendo to be using a system from two generations ago for voice chat. It worked great and all, but it’d just be funny.

[@VirgoTruck]

There was some info floating around about Samsung making SD express micro SD cards earlier this year that may be suitable for expandable switch storage maybe?

[@DaniPooo]

I think nintendo is going a different route from what they did in the Iwata period. It seems like they allow more games on their eshop (for better or worse). So if they wanna embrace the voice chat and online forum boards and all around more communication features they could very well do so. They just have to make sure to allow these features to be restricted in the parental controls. Then they can just say that it's up to the parents to make sure that their kids have limited access to these features through the parental settings. And then they're golden to go all out

[@Angelo-wf4kf]

I would love if you provided the sources either in a pinned comment or in the description :/

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

Theyre just rumors. Even if you checked them, the sources of the sources is thin air.

[@Angelo-wf4kf]

​@@DontKnowDontCare6.9 you could at least educate yourself on their sources etc and compare. But this way it leaves you no chance form your own opinion

[@TGolemo94]

We probably aren’t missing the information on the memory, there was the report from Samsung on the emerging high speed micro SD tech, limited to a 256gb form factor for now, that they were working on with a development partner

[@Bry.89]

The GPU specs alone seem to indicate it might be similar to PS4 Pro/Xbox Series S specs. Couple it with DLSS and you've got better visual resolution without sacrificing performance. Many of those games strive for 1440p on their respective consoles in quality modes. So it's possible Switch might either take the performance gains instead of the visual gains and keep DLSS enabled to make it look 1440p on a 4k screens. Which would still be a huge improvement over 1080p or lower. My only issue with this is that for older games Nintendo will 100% lock game upgrades behind a paywall or subscription service. So if you want Breath of the Wild in 4k, you're probably gonna have to pay up for it. I doubt we'll see many, if any, first party next-gen upgrades for free.

[@izR3Lite]

I’ve seen a lot of people give PlayStation credit for a mic on controller… let’s not forget that the Gamepad on the Wii U had a mic.

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

And the Family Computer. In the 80s. Literally decades.

[@tony_0088]

Regarding expandable storage, there has been some rumors recently about a new generation of faster "3d nand" tech developed by samsung in conjuction with Nintendo. That is supposed to be the format for the new games, and I wouldn't be surprised if newer micro SDs cards based on that same tech, would be used for expandable storage.

[@ricahrdb]

The specs will undoubtedly be better but if you think that Nintendo will all of a sudden make visuals and performance the centre point of their new console then you haven't been paying attention for the past 40 years. Don't expect too much in that area.

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

One of Nintendo's favorite upgrades to existing technology is a CPU performance boost. It was the first thing they focused on in SNES co-processors. The GBC and Wii were practically two older CPUs duct taped together. The New 3DS and Switch were bare minimum performance upgrades that still made things easier for themselves and their favorite second and third parties. It's just that the same Nintendo will totally sacrifice/neglect performance if they fall in love with an ambitious feature set. But that tends to be when they think outside of the box.

[@SarajevoKyoto]

Actually the GameCube was more powerful than its competitors when it launched, with a strong lineup of games to take advantage. Still scratching my head as to why it didn't do better

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

@@SarajevoKyoto No DVDs. That hurt them bad, even beyond movies. Developers had to either sacrifice the quality of assets to squeeze them into a smaller space, or sacrifice ambition. This meant the XBox, which had superior specs anyways, plus a built-in hard drive and the best online multiplayer, stole Nintendo's thunder. Also. Luigi's Mansion and Mario Sunshine were fun experiments, but the first needed more depth and wasn't a killer app. While the second was rushed to market and briefly damaged Mario's mystique. Wind Waker is loved now, but it was hated until people played it. Added to the look of the console, and too many dismissed it as a console for kids.

[@SarajevoKyoto]

@@juststatedtheobvious9633 Ah, yeah that makes sense

[@ThibautMahringer]

​@@SarajevoKyotoGameCube was less powerful than Xbox overall at the time. Though, unlike today, all consoles used different architecture hardware. Which means one console could have an advantage over the others in a very specific scenario where it's architecture was more suited, outside of overall power. It was good times.

[@undercoverduck]

Can't wait for the Switch 3 rumor mill to start ❤ Exciting times

[@minecrafter3448]

Eh you got 5 years minimum. Might hear some stuff about switch 2 pro even though it’ll be an oled.

[@Mimi.1001]

​@minecrafter3448 We'll probably get Switch 2 Pro rumours in the first year, potentially even before launch like with the Switch. The leaked specs seem pretty good, but still with plenty of room for wishful hopes of fans who are eager to spread rumors like this. An OLED model is like such a no brainer I can see various "leakers" just suggesting it and enough people believing it for it to become a "valid" "leak".

[@mmstick]

You're underestimating how fast modern SD cards are now. UHS-II have a max throughput of 312 MB/s, while UHS-III cards have a throughput of 624 MB/s. The Switch may be limited to 95 MB/s, but they can definitely get higher throughputs if they want it.

[@GVG]

You’re right, I did! I researched after we recorded and found microSD cards that match the Switch 2 memory specs and have ordered one to check it out! -Steve

[@expsharevideogames]

Just started the video, but good lord the pornbot spam comments lol

[@AshyMuted]

SWITCH 2 IN BIO

[@StarmenRock]

Youre just mad they're not on your videos

[@expsharevideogames]

@@StarmenRock 🤣

[@seanmckinney9310]

Twitter first and now KZbin? Truly dark times

[@amiiban]

99.9 percent of games that include raytracing have a way to play it without, it's not a matter of developing a different lighting system for the switch, it's just that raytracing is good for marketing. Also the steam deck can run doom eternal at maxed out raytracing settings at 30fps

[@homebrewGT2]

Ray tracing is such a waste of power, I hope devs don't use that

[@amiiban]

@@homebrewGT2 As i said, it's a marketing gimmick, it's pointless without the best hardware and only ray traced reflections make a meaningful difference

[@Doublee73]

My guess is performance patches will be free for NSO Expansion Pass

I really really miss old handhelds. When they were portable and battery efficient like the wonderswan with just an AA battery for 40 hours. That’s why I love my Playdate.

[@Mondu_]

All I want is to yell at my Switch, "Place a marker in Kakariko village" so i can go there without having to get lost looking at the massive map 😅

[@nikopierrot]

I see the ray tracing being used only for specifically ray-traced-global-illumination. Path tracing and other ray-traced techniques are very taxing, and don't show up on many PS5 or Xbox games. However, rtgi is such an astounding and *relatively* cheap technique that adds so much dynamism to lighting. It in conjunction with planar reflections+screen spaced reflections would be really nice on Switch 2 (the Switch 1 already uses SSR decently). Microsd is fine considering Steam Deck performance, nintendo just needs to upgrade the sd card spec.

[@crobinson2624]

There was a report two months ago about Samsung‘s new 800 MB a second microSD cards that were revealed and if Samsung and Nintendo are working together on the switch 2 that you can bet that these microSD cards will play a role in storage solution.

[@dometalican1990]

You guys forget, OLED can come back with screen burn-in or lines later on. I'm perfectly content with LCD considering a lot of the better gaming monitors use epic LCD panels. Sharp (being a Japanese company also) could provide these panels and, if the Razer Phone 2 were any indication, they still look GORGEOUS.

[@ElWeyChingon]

Ugh wish I picked up an OLED. I had just bought the red box version when it was announced. The colors look great everytime I see demo stations

[@CosmizEve]

I just hope Nintendo is ready to release big games this generation. The Switch 2 is looking to be a big graphical upgrade which is great but I'm just ready to see those 1st party games lol

[@ridgenyan-botxv367]

Considering how Prime 4 has been on the backburner this whole time, I think we should be able to expect a lot

[@Matanumi]

We just had fucking tears last year what more do you want?

[@charlotteritchie9969]

@@Matanumitears of the MIDdom

[@SarajevoKyoto]

​@@charlotteritchie9969TotK was, for me, weaker than BotW from a level design standpoint, but it was absolutely GORGEOUS

[@GeoDeo]

@@charlotteritchie9969I think the story is significantly worse than BOTW but I love the world design and all the new additions

[@fighterguard]

If your sound setup doesn't work correctly with the Switch, it's your sound setup's fault, honestly. I had a cheap one that didn't really work well. But now I have a Samsung sound bar, and everything works perfectly with full surround over ARC: PC, PS5 and Switch. I wasn't sure if it would work, but it does, and it's fantastic

[@NiyaKouya]

Concerning add-on storage, there are already fast (micro) SD cards on the market, they're just mostly used in professional environments. UHS-II cards have been around for a while and have transfer speeds up to 300 Mbyte/s (UHS-III is specified for ~600Mbyte/s, but according to Wikipedia there are no cards on the market yet), and the newer SD-Express standard can go to ~1GByte/s and beyond. If they add a card reader that supports UHS-III or SD-Express (can't have both since they use the same pins for different features/protocols) the user would have the choice of either getting an expensive but blazingly fast card or the usual semi-fast but cheap U1 cards.

[@Zer0InfinityLIVE]

Didn't Nintendo have a mic on one of the controllers in Famicom in 1980's???😂😂😂💖

[@ScriptCatz]

Yup

[@OMGpandemic]

Yep!

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

Decades before Playstation and Xbox did.

[@greggski3710]

​@@DontKnowDontCare6.9Xbox still doesn't have a mic in the controller :P

[@presidentc4]

​@@DontKnowDontCare6.9Xbox still never has

[@kitterbug]

26:57 the 3DS and Wii U with their mostly untapped native GBA and GameCube (respectively) support rn: 😐

[@valshaped]

Lmao. The Horizon kernel already has support for the new console. In spite of any user facing changes, it *will be* the same OS. Also, keep in mind that what Nintendo *does* with the OS and what the OS Is *capable of* are two completely independent things!

[@christianr.5868]

If the screen is 1080p and it’s backwards compatible, playing the docked version of og switch games in handheld mode would be awesome. Would make a big difference in a lot of games. Like bowsers fury is only 60fps on docked mode, and Mario odyssey looks much better

[@altonm9371]

can't wait, thanks for the insights.

[@earthboundman5]

What the heck is this background music with all the phone dialing noises? It's so distracting.

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

The track is called "Gotta rush a video on unverified rumors based on an announcement that Nintendo will make an announcement."

[@mitchellb4551]

@@DontKnowDontCare6.9 yea this discussion felt very rushed by GVG standers. things weren't explained very well and they had no pop ups or anything.

[@lee1130fromtwitter]

My uncle works at Nintendo they're going to call it the super switch

[@Nobody-sp7ug]

One important thi g to note about dlss, it will NOT improve textures, or asset quality, in any way. Quite the opposite it will very accurately capture how low quality your textures are. This is why nvidia suggests you use textures suited for the output resolution of dlss rather than the input resolution. That being said there is one peoce of information related to storage speed missed here, and that is that t239 has a dedicated file decompression engine. So it can move heavily decompressed assets through that storage bandwidth and decompress them on the fly with a dedicated processor at no impact to cpu. So the switch 2 can move large assets like high res textures, dlss needs high res textures, so far so good...... but it's whammy time. You listed the standard render config for an ampere processor, going by individual SM, thats 128 fp32 cuda cores, 4 tensor cores (128 fp16) 1 rt cores per sm. Yup that's ampere. That also includes 4 tmu's, texture mapper units. So in total for all 12 sm the switch 2 will have 48 TMU's. Xbox series s has 80.

[@DrakenDemax]

I wanted to say that MicroSD Express could be an option. it's way faster than standard MicroSD.... im pretty sure it's faster than the original Switch's internal storage, but if specs are true... still wouldnt be as fast as the switch 2 storage... so idk. Also idk how viable MicroSD Express is atm because its still virtually unavailable on the marketplace

[@hi-ougidemonfang]

Worth noting several ds games used microphones as a control method. So the microphone could just be there for Nintendo online. The mentioned this right after the point in the video I typed it out.

[@THEREALVITO]

The Steam Deck can use a micro sd, I don't think it'll change. If only just for all your Switch 1 games. I don't see them complicating things too much. My main theory is, they'll sell the console with and without a dock. People who already own a Switch could just use their original dock if they want. They just might miss out on 4K output, unless they have an OLED Switch dock already, or can just buy it separately later. Maybe the dock bundle includes a Switch 2 with more internal storage as well. Part of me might doubt this though, because, if the Switch 2 is any thicker, it probably wouldn't fit.

[@neo_b]

i hope it comes with an Oled version on launch, and i hope they let us stream to twitch/youtube like the playstation on the Switch2

[@matheusgenaro]

Is the screen on PS Portal that bad? Because everytime people talk how much better the OLED screen is and how horrible it is that Switch 2 will have LCD, I think everyone has the base Switch in mind.

[@Valimar11]

In the future, could you either outline all the specs at the beginning or provide a link in the description. Its a bit harder to follow if you do it piecewise

[@agahnim0196]

I really doubt Nintendo will put any marketing effort on backlog and backward compatibility when announcing the Switch 2. They'll want people to focus on their new games instead of looking to the past.

[@MisterNoble]

If anyone wants to see what the Switch 2 will be capable of Digital Foundry had a video months ago on the Switch 2s specs based on the leaks

[@itsaxel8088]

it's going to be called Switch U

[@JoshTheWoz]

😂

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

Hopefully not. 😂

[@James-gj8rn]

That kinda works in a weird way lol

[@itsaxel8088]

@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 you get to use your current switch as a gamepad 😏

[@audie-cashstack-uk4881]

Zzzzzzzz

[@rainbowplane24]

Im probably in the minority here, but I dont want the tablet's dimensions to be bigger at all. Its guaranteed to be heavier at that point and my fucked up joints are already screaming when I am playing handheld just due to having to hold up such a bulky device. I hope they arent just making it bigger for the sake of it and are keeping the actual weight in mind as well...

[@MarioofSevenStars]

Could you imagine Nintendo tying Switch upgrades to Nso?

[@xunbekannt1572]

First reactions around the Internet are enourmousls positive! This is much more than many thought!

[@AliO]

GVG please upload these sort of discussions to podcast platforms.

[@LordelX]

These guys don’t understand Nintendo. They aren’t going to do expanded storage beyond microSD cards. It has to be simple to use, especially for kids and the technologically impaired. You might see them include two microSD card slots instead of one, but even that’s doubtful. There won’t be voice chat, there won’t be online community features…

[@CreativeWM_Personal]

If it has benefits for game development and level design, Nintendo would include it as standard.

[@Dominicn123]

Lol, you may have had a point before but not now. Nintendo today is different. Basically, Sony has been the force behind everything. Allow me to elaborate Nintendo created the most successful name in gaming, PlayStation when they backstabbed Sony back in the day for Phillips, this decision alone led the PlayStation to not just be born, but to go against almost all of nintendos policies, forcing many devs to jump ship and flock to them. By the time ps2 was out, Sony absolutely destroyed Nintendo, by almost 100 million systems with the PSone. 8000 games versus 400 on n64. When rumors of psp was around Nintendo KNEW they could no longer compete, they axed the gba and rushed out the DS, adding an extra screen and touch because they knew they could not compete traditionally anymore. People no longer had a reason to buy them unless Nintendo gave it to them. This change their tactics with the Wii too, it was only here that Nintendo began the strategy of going a different route Now Wii U has failed and 3ds is decent, they knew things had to change again. And they did with the switch, Nintendo opened up their policies more than ever and thanks to that we have a lot of games on switch from people who would’ve never developed for them. And also because Sony gave handhelds, switch got to gain from that too. Nintendo is now handheld only. Don’t fall for the original hybrid marketing that they dropped early on once it didn’t meet the definition of a true hybrid. They’d need a dock that gave additional juice to be a hybrid but it doesn’t. They’re just a handheld that can output to tv like our phones So now, they’ve opened up policies more than anytime before, your argument holds little value lol

[@cloud1494]

I disagree. I think if they see a significant enough advantage in using a faster and just as readily available tech, they may move over to something else. SD cards aren’t fast enough for the amount of data they may need to load without incurring long load times.

[@stupidvideogameclips]

I HOPE Nintendo is going to wise up and realize that people need real online functionality. It's idiotic to assume every gamer can get four or more people together in one room at one time on a consistent basis.

[@AREAlhero]

@@Dominicn123 This massive comment shows such a fundamental misunderstanding of the gaming industry and gaming history. Do yourself a favor and study up, you could learn a lot.

[@ARDIZsq]

If Switch 2 lets me play Scarlet and Violet at 60 FPS, it's an instant buy for me, everything else is just a bonus.

[@lobodezink]

eso no depende de la consola, es culpa de los desarrolladores

[@MegaManNeo]

Emulators run the game at 60fps already, so I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo can supply fixes.

[@undergroundhiphopfan6335]

There's no reason it couldn't on Switch 1.

[@ArceusDX]

that would depend on if GameFreak could be bothered to give it an upgrade patch

[@minecrafter3448]

You could play scarlet and violet at 60 fps on the base switch if gamefreak weren’t a bunch of lazy corporate slobs

[@TheKryce]

The bigger size is actually my biggest turnoff. I already think the base switch is too big and I almost prefer le Lite because of that.

[@inktendo]

"Talking in millimeters makes my head hurts" American behavior

[@pokemonduck]

clearly it's much more logical when 3,671 dongles fit in a flurb and 541,561 flurbs fit in a wahoo!

[@inktendo]

@@pokemonduck uh, what?

[@modernreflex91]

Idk if anyone else has mentioned it in the comments but samsung has been apparently working with an unnamed partner on a sd card using the sd express standard which is comparable to ssd speeds with sizes up to 256gb so that could be the next consoles external storage.

[@daviluppi9367]

for the memory epasion i'm hearing people talk about sd express

[@MedalionDS9]

the Steam Deck recently got support for Ray Tracing through a firmware update

[@AbruptAvalanche]

I really don't foresee Nintendo going through their back catalog of Switch games and updating them to run better on the new system. I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see much profit in doing so. They would much rather us buy new releases than to keep playing our old stuff anyway.

[@redtutel]

19:08 to blow on in games obviously

[@funkysloth2902]

I hope Switch 2 gets quick resume on games.

[@weebsquit347]

While an LCD screen is a downgrade, i wouldn't say it's fully a bad thing. In the world of smartphones at least, LCD screens have improved a lot. Colors are much more vibrant and great looking. I got a look at the Redmi Note 11T Pro in person a good while back, and I was pretty impressed with its LCD screen. And I'm in the small camp, but as much as i love and prefer an OLED screen, Burn in is always a worry of mine. I live in a place that's usually hot, which increases the chance of OLED burn in, so i usually use it at home only. I'm probably over worrying since my phone hasn't had OLED screen burn in, but it's still something i think about often.

[@holobucket7626]

it's a bit silly to even think this far ahead, but a mid-gen refresh for this next console would be the opportunity for Nintendo to revisit storage space and speeds. The current rumored specs will be enough to get them out the door for the current generation

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

Thats how Sony thinks. And look at them now with the PS5.

[@raskolnikov6443]

Not a fan of that

[@minecrafter3448]

These specs match the series s. Developers don’t need more than a series s.

[@Wren6858]

the Steam deck and ROG Ally both have raytracing hardware. The RDNA2 gpu has enough ray accelerators to do games like Quake RTX at standard definition.

[@josephrutkin5017]

"talking in mms makes my head hurt" is a certified American moment 🇺🇸

[@Jalex0021]

That music around the 36 min mark was seriously distracting to me but otherwise I enjoyed your takes, cheers guys.

[@PizzaPasta256]

I hope that in order to get the updated Switch 1 games, you need to beat Sephiroth’s Challenge from Ultimate for each game you want to upgrade

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

Some really great points here, but just nitpicking, I don't think Nintendo's two screen approach failed. They crushed it in the handheld market with two screens.

[@josh--el]

If mic was in Joycon, would it need to be in both sides because of games that just use one side? That might be cost prohibitive, which is why in handheld it’s just in tablet

[@Zorathan]

If Nintendo is smart, they will update the current games to support the new console and show how much better it looks on the new console. They will show new games that expand beyond that and show what ray tracing can do to improve the games, and they will keep 90% of their install base. They don’t even need to have that many games come out, just improve the ones people already got and they will buy the upgrade. When exclusive “new” console games drop, most people will have already upgraded

[@minecrafter3448]

Yeah, “smart” The gaming industry collapsed trying to do that