Swizz Beatz & Timbaland Talk The Birth Of VERZUZ, DMX, Pharrell, Aaliyah & More | Drink Champs

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with Swizz Beatz & Timbaland!
The legendary producers joined us prior to their VERZUZ rematch to talk music, life and other topics.
We hear stories of Teddy Riley, Aaliyah, Pharrell, the late great DMX and much more!
Swizz & Timbo also discuss their friendship over the years and how it led to the birth of their music platform.
This episode is filled with lots of great hip hop stories and gems that you don’t want to miss!
Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆
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[@kwobsiemarius9613]

The friendship between Timbo and Swizz is respectful and genuine. I admire that

[@dudesupremeX]

We miss you Aaliyah and DMX❤️

[@hollydrake257]

When Swizz says "I don't wanna talk about him, until I talk to him." That shit right there.... That's how grown folks handle shit!

[@Wcc815]

Nore: “ because we’re friends” Swizz: “ we’re family but go ahead” Thats love

[@reppinNY]

Vin diesel felt that

[@samushunter0048]

This is what happens when you set aside ego and collab. You make history together. Two G.O.A.T.S.

[@oscarchapman6378]

Z 7days 9x9x3

[@SevenHunnid]

I quit my job recently because i make more money by smoking on my KZbin channel 🥶💯 Who need a 4PF chain??

[@travisharris5490]

💯

[@yannickscott9343]

They both produced “versus” on the magna carta

[@24karatplatinum24]

🌃🌆🏙🌇🏡🏡📻🎶🎵🎼🎼🎶🔊🔊🔊🎶🎵🎼🎼🔊🔊🔊📸🎩👑👑 💐🌿🍀🍃🍂🌹🌹🎀👒👑SUUUUCH A FAKT🥂🥂💄👛👠👠👜

[@mrspeaker89]

N.O.R.E's liver before every podcast: "Ahh shit, here we go again." 🥴😵

[@alfredoboustamontae2485]

FACTS

[@bradfieldclose]

😂😂😂😂

[@AhmedMohamed-bo5zm]

Fam 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bessierobinson4854]

😂😂😂

[@mariedesignz1659]

Right😂😂

[@Hains22]

People always (and rightfully so) acknowledge Pharrell’s genius. But, people always forget Chad Hugo influence as well. He was behind a lot of those hit songs.

[@isaiahstevenson8923]

Thats very true. Majority of Pharrell's catalog is with Chad. They had a brief moment that they took time apart to venture off and Pharell did produce solo joints rightfully s but at the end of the day 97% to 99% of Pharrell catalog is with his producing partner Chad Hugo.

[@jkjpcds]

I BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS! Like people forget it wasn't Pharrell producing those hits, it was the Neptunes! The duo was working together but with Pharrell as the one who's always out front people forget about the other side of the genius.

[@thelandonburnettexperience8768]

All of them bridges and pretty ass chords or super unique sounds or saxophone solos came from Chad! I NEVER just say Pharrell… it’s The Neptunes!!!

[@Noob12369]

Because chad likes being low key probably.

[@thelandonburnettexperience8768]

@@Noob12369 that’s facts… he never seemed to care about the recognition he does it for the love of the music and let Pharrell be the frontman. He can still go to the grocery store without too much of a bother! 😂🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Vatogouki]

X leaving the gold Henny bottle was The Dog being a dog. He loves NORE so he brought his favorite thing and left it in front of him just as a dog would. 😢

[@Tyweezy84]

Definitely man 🙏🏿

[@kyngpapi]

🙏🏾

[@brotherkonscious4333]

🔥

[@OniTrvlr]

😥🥺

[@BoiseyMusic]

That’s deep

[@dymeaduzin]

This perfectly explains why they were so faded during the Verzuz 😭

[@TonyRosenberg]

Yo Dyme-A-Duzin! Been a fan for years. Listened to "Swank Sinatra" all the time back in the day. Cheers

[@javonestephens7856]

Salute 🙏🏾

[@Harolde90]

Facts 🤣

[@suckafreecee2047]

what verzuz was it

[@dixienormus6070]

Once again. Respect to Nore for setting up this environment up like only a Rap OG could.

[@NG35129]

I gotta say Swiss and Tim managing verses the way their doing it is the best thing that happened to hip hop in its history. Hands down. God bless these dudes for giving back. MAJOR🔊🔊🔊🔊

[@yaketsuku4607]

Brought a tear to my eye. These are NATIONAL treasures right here, in the sphere of music. I've always been a huge fan of Timbaland but in the last couple of years, have gained MORE respect for Swizz. Read that again, MORE respect. They could've NOT done Verzuz, and still been living legends. But here we are. In the words of the great Busta Rhymes: Where we about to take it???

[@antoniopope4398]

Everyone needs a DJ efn. He keeps Nore on point and makes sense.

[@prodigalsongod]

ehh sometimes. if you accept nore as nore, you realize efn is not always needed for good content.

[@lsmith218]

Not really. efn is a goofball

[@justintime7673]

Said No one

[@timothybarr8241]

No we don't, cuz everybody isnt a NORE

[@antoniopope4398]

For understanding purposes since this became so personal. I mean a friend that doesn't always agree with you, that holds you accountable. Things like that keep you balanced. God bless. Maybe you don't. If so what's the need to reply for?

[@michaelrice9163]

Yo when you know your guy has a "dog toe nail" you know ya"'ll had some time together. 😂😂😂 RIP X

[@charlottesherouse5606]

I thought the same thing!! 😂😂 When the socks come off... 🤣

[@laquannemcghee5716]

@@charlottesherouse5606 up

[@alfredoboustamontae2485]

FACTS

[@SocialDrones]

That story about Aaliyah I know that was hard to talk about. Bless up Tim.

[@IceKoldKilla]

I've been sleeping on this show for years wtf. Nobody ever puts me on shit. I gotta go finding stuff. But so happy I found it. Been binging full episodes for days since I've had the flu. Timbaland is in my top 3 favorite producers of all time in hip-hop. He elevated the genre. And huge shout-out to Swizz too! Insane track record.

[@FlintBeastgood]

Oh damn. Glad you found it at last. Some absolutely epic conversations, especially on the older episodes.

[@SMOOV_726]

@Ice Kold Killa same here !!!

[@bobbyanderson5601]

Facts. I'm the same way. I'm up on game late. Better late than never though.

[@pennyedmonds5713]

Me too. Got a lot of catching up to do.

[@jsiva2852]

Better late than never!

[@timilehin3535]

DJ EFN conducts himself like a classy individual

[@prodilla340]

Cubano Class

[@THEREALKINGJOHN]

Yeah no matter how much overtalkin nore does

[@Th_Underdog]

That he is.

[@Th_Underdog]

Quality interview

[@rockyrosa156]

I NEVER HEARD BOUT EFN.N I FROM DA CITY FO REAL FO REAL.

[@vabigshot7573]

Nore: You want Hypnotic fo'real?? 🤣😂🤣

[@Eye2Eye24]

Yeah yeah and pass the Hennessy and ice

[@introvertedblackgirl]

I love Pharrell but it's a Neptune's thing Chad needs His Flowers too. Love both DMX and Timbo.

[@leegreen8742]

Right

[@leegreen8742]

@@christopherayettey4390 I'm not on IG

[@leegreen8742]

@@christopherayettey4390 😆 I'm not on any of that not even Facebook.. Wassup?

[@leegreen8742]

@@christopherayettey4390 well why are you trying to message me 😆 I don't give a fuck about social media lol

[@leegreen8742]

@@christopherayettey4390 lol about what just say what you need to I'm lost about what yur tryna get at

[@wwenewyork7570]

14:15- Aaliyah segment , I LOVE YALL ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@blessed3862]

That's why I'm here. Thank you!

[@wwenewyork7570]

@@blessed3862 no problem 💙

[@trapdarby3701]

"I loss my train of thought. Im so focus." 😂🤣😂

[@gocpng4699]

Comedy

[@Blacktolite]

JT coming with new project produced by timbo exclusive

[@copyrightfreemusiconyoutub6469]

I feel like Nore has been randomly saying make some noise for purple rain since that Pharrell interview 😂😂

[@xMXWLx]

because he realized lol

[@copyrightfreemusiconyoutub6469]

@@xMXWLx lol I just imagine in random life instances, middle of the grocery line.... “LET’S MAKE SOME NOISE FOR MOTHERFUCKIN PURPLE RAIN” 😂😂

[@jermainewill16]

Gahdamit

[@kevinblackman4970]

Nore makes noise for everything

[@copyrightfreemusiconyoutub6469]

@@kevinblackman4970 let’s make some noise for that gahdammittt!!!

[@UndercoverSpill]

I was just happy to see Swizz smile and have a good time.

[@LouisWarning]

That “Potatoe Salad” comment had me FLOORED!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@shawnjohn7783]

Chris Brown got hella hits and he in a lane of his own but MUSICALLY Usher got hits that's gon take us back to a moment in time, and he got ALOT of those like Nice & Slow, U Remind Me, You Make Me Wanna, U Got It Bad, Slow Jam ft Monica, Let It Burn, Confessions, Can U Handle It, That's What Its Made For, My Boo, You Dont Have To Call, Love In This Club ft Beyonce and Lil Wayne, Superstar, There Goes My Baby, Lovers and Friends, Yeah, ect ... Chris got Hits but Usher got CLASSICS 🤧

[@jaylyn1997]

Tru

[@alex372501]

Timbaland "what you mean Nas or Jay what...They both going to the store?" Proceeds to take shot Lmao

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

🤣🤣🤣

[@msdavidson7877]

That was a classic response

[@EarthlyGoddessOya]

Two black men working together... no ego,no bravado,no selfishness... just being themselves and admiring each other work,yeah! So refreshing to see with this genre!

[@prof3ssor178]

Swizz and Timbaland really helped me spiritually during the pandemic peace up! Can't wait for the next Verzuz gets better each time

[@ReidClarkComedy]

I like that the last one was live

[@metal.mover23]

Oh shit a versus with puff daddy and Jermaine Dupri would be fire💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏

[@reneejackson240]

Definitely! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@coreyluv6]

Should call it "night of the living dead" or maybe "special victims unit" for all the careers that they both killed and artists that they raped.

[@worldnewz6963]

@@coreyluv6 who did JD get accused of robbing? Truthfully Puff never got accused of not paying somebody they just didn’t agree with Puff’s split but that business

[@coreyluv6]

@@worldnewz6963 Diddy was accused of not paying dam near his whole label. Loon,g dep,shyne,the lox,ma$e,da band,junior mafia,and more. JD definitely was accused of the same thing,for starters J-Kwon

[@Power-9Hunnid]

J.D. dodging them Trackmasters.

[@vusi.mbili86]

Peace love and happiness to everyone here all the way from Cape town South Africa!

[@10Trillion707]

Accepted and received. Blessings to South Africa!

[@eswift3160]

✊🏾🌍

[@gocpng4699]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmOcdZ9tmb-JrNU

[@dstu1699]

Right back at you, family. Thank you and bless up

[@ReidClarkComedy]

Check out the people’s report podcast

[@justme4696]

Watching Drink Champs is therapy for me! Thank you DJ EFN, N.O.R.E, and all of the Drink Champs staff❣

[@mathisbailey794]

Anybody that picked Hypnotic....are fun, wild, chill and old school. This made me love Swizz even more!!!

[@panorisholidaythe3rd791]

Hypnotic has a lower alcohol content. He not tryna get sloppy on this show

[@tjrichez4297]

Hypnotic takes so good

[@b.sadity212]

Legendary Drink Champs.. Episode GOAT 🐐🐐 #RIPDMX

[@sergotv3487]

When swizz said (alhamdulelah) it showed me how humble this guy is

[@beauty4717]

“I can’t be performing this old shit,” Nore is so funny Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 “Nigga we gonna have some food for you, I think so” 🤣🤣🤣

[@jojosaylor8996]

Aaliyah was definitely on the rise to be star.. She just started to do movies and major music videos... Her creative side was just starting to blossom She was only in business for 5 years.

[@kristopherchandler8034]

In my opinion she would be on top right now if she wasn’t already gone. Her music is still doing numbers like she never left and her talent was undeniable. She’s a true legend that left too soon 😇 🦢

[@futuregohan4837]

Aaliyah To Me Had The Makings Of An Great Actress

[@jarock121197]

*7 years but correct

[@unfilteredteapodcast]

Her debut album came out in 1993. She passed in 2001. That's at least 8 years.

[@JessieDubois8]

@@unfilteredteapodcast 1994, not 1993.

[@Flightteam]

I be lovin the DMX dog stories and the Mike Tyson stories R.I.P X 🙏🏽

[@steelzb7429]

Rest in power X

[@RDoubt96]

Swizz been real cold and smart with people in interviews since X died

[@bryant4the328]

YOOOO GET LLOYD BANKS ON THE SHOW

[@Tyweezy84]

I just tweeted nore and said this! Lol, now the perfect time Bc banks album is out. And he’s a legend

[@Man_eee]

Long Overdue! But yea perfect timing now bc of his album.

[@phillyjahbreezy215]

I like ur thinking right here

[@CampaignWxlf]

That would be dope!! We need that!

[@yaserkhalid4867]

🔥

[@kwakudanso2803]

I've already watch Timbo v Swizz for the 5th time on Triller! Hope 'Verzuz' becomes one of the biggest aspect of our modern day culture, because HipHop needs to start getting the dignified glory it deserves on the global stage! But more importantly, Thank you Swizz; For giving us a MasterPiece, with EXODUS: the album is legendary! Peace from London to the World!

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

Facts or major major truth?...it's great to see Swizz Beatz and Timbaland on Drink Champs. True Hip Hop legends. That have helped create legends with their productions and even more reasons why Missy Elliott should be on Drink Champs.

[@sadiki1980]

Respect to everything Swizzy and Timbo are doing.

[@boriqualittymodcapt.3493]

Swiss & Timberland creating Verzuz was divine intervention💪🏾💪🏾

[@iamchrisknott]

Wow! When Swizz said they gave all of the artist that came on Versuz shares! 🤯 To have a business mindset and still blessing others first, WHEN THEY DIDN’T HAVE TO!! 🙏🏾

[@KD_SWAGGER]

R.I.P. DMX! I hope we get to hear more unreleased music by him. Swizz Beatz is a real one and Timbaland has always been cool.

[@P_Esco]

This episode was hilarious, loved every minute of it! Rip DMX & Babygirl

[@SkateboardGee]

Hearing Tim and Pharrell talk about each others beats, is so legendary shit man!!

[@tjlockett7057]

Very AMAZING episode. Love their energy. Thank these guys for all the classics they gave us and to see these 2 salute each other is too dope. Love it. Crown these Kings

[@umarscamartistjohnson1784]

This episode is going to do BIG numbers

[@Ramblewood_Yeast]

It’s crazy the chemistry is perfect on this one

[@tammyharrison1330]

Banned from tv is my favorite rap song EVER!!!!!

[@Miss_Kyra]

Its the love, the brotherhood and the ability to have great business relationship. Their verzuz is officially in my top 5!

[@marilynking3350]

Aaliyah definitely was on the rise

[@TheComeUpZone]

Forever a legend

[@ChaeThompson]

Never forget… 2001 😩

[@anthonyallen3928]

Would beyonce still be where she is if Aaliyah was still here

[@marilynking3350]

@@anthonyallen3928 dont compare Aaliyah and Beyonce. That comparison is so old and pointless Aaliyah is gone. She's gone

[@anthonyallen3928]

@@marilynking3350 maybe to you

[@mafunxumalo2634]

DJ EFN listens he remembers where people forget they train of thought, Swizz and Tim are so soft spoken.

[@Llindaantonio]

Great episode!! So much love and respect in the room. This is what life is about people!! Learn to support each other and spread the love. Keep good people around you and get rid of the baggage!!

[@addisonbjork]

“I SEE WHY THIS IS CALLED JINK TRAMPS” - Timbaland, 2021. What an episode!

[@klzballer331]

Time stamp please 🙏🏽 😅

[@addisonbjork]

@@klzballer331 1:47:28

[@prof3ssor178]

HELL YEA! VERZUZ IS A CLASSIC

[@kingjonesthe1st]

🤣🤣🤣 I had to rewind like 6x ! Hilarious

[@raphielusain9755]

Guest: *breathes N.O.R.E.: “I think you should take a shot”

[@sharhondamcneil6293]

Yo!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GraduatedMoney]

Watery eyes whole time they talked about X. Love you Dawg. Thank you for everything. Thank you Swizz & NORE for support and loving him unconditionally 😔🙏🏼

[@perrynnlynch3811]

One of Nore,s best intros for the guests ever. Big up Drink Champs. Peace from the UK.

[@DigitalOdyssey3001]

Finally...back to real guests. Real Hip-Hop Legends!!!

[@vaderthekittenchannel1979]

What interviews didn’t you like?

[@relledacivilian]

The randomness of Nore is what makes dislike drink champs, but it’s also why I love Drink Champs the way I do.

[@princesteez5627]

😂

[@dymeaduzin]

So much love and respect in this interview.

[@jasonsweet5972]

Nore: "I called people out they ain't want it with me" Beanie Sigel: "I'm outside Nore let's go"

[@retailtuesday3517]

WE BACK WITH THIS EPISODE!!! Something about this energy here. Good talk!

[@SM00VE24]

Get DJ QUIK on the show... Give that man his 💐 while he still here!!!! One off the best producers of all time

[@laughthinkeattravel]

X is in my top 3 story tellers. I'm an author and I know my writing style comes from hip hop and Donald Goines. My first tape that I ran from school to buy was It's Dark and Hell is Hot. Classic album and experience. In a day when most rappers sound alike and are living on a high horse; X was speaking to my North Philly reality. RIP X

[@michelkacou8150]

"His pinky toenail was a dog nail" 😂😂 God bless X. Long live X

[@duckiemrpoetry]

These 2 producers soooo legendary they need Individual episodes !!!

[@GrandPrizeFitnesAJAY]

Salute to these Kings! I'd like to say that Swiz has been giving visual artists a platform during Art Basel for years! In fact, the event is called No Commission and gives participants the opportunity to show art while keeping all funds earned. It's amazing how passionate projects evolve into historic movements.

[@lorigrant4628]

this is my 2nd fav episode I loved it my fav is DMX rip legend. He saved me from committing suicide with his music when I was a young teenager. it is because of dmx that I am alive and a mother... I am forever grateful

[@michaelpolite956]

Rest in Paradise to D.M.X

[@davisionairy4680]

Timberland was drunk around 45:55 bruh started putting on a memphis accent "EXACTLY MAYNEEEE" 😂😂

[@sirw369]

Love the respect and energy in this episode. 🙏🏼❤️🔥

[@iraford3702]

Amazing interviews for two legendary hip hop producers.

[@Imran0said]

Man Timb told that story about Aaliyah’s funeral and Jay putting his arm around him. Always check up and be there for your brothers. We hold so much inside, but we shouldn’t and don’t have to.

[@m_thaOutKast]

The culture needs Pharrell in a verzus. I don't think people know his catalog

[@NoelG314]

what?

[@Djogbee]

His catalog is on a whole different level..Pharrell the only producer I know that produced every song that came on the radio 🥴

[@uncaged172]

NERD vs Outkast can work or Pharrell as a producer against any other producer.

[@kaygee313]

No one is good enough to compete with The Neptunes

[@trapdarby3701]

Pharrell vs Kanye WOULD BE EPIC!

[@trigliderider76]

One of the best episodes!!!! Love the vibes and the energy!!!! Long live ❌

[@johncampbell383]

Two of the best producers in the hip-hop game hands down big up's keep it moving !

[@ahmedsaidu-kamara6760]

This is one of the best episodes of Drink Champs that I've seen.

[@TrvisXXIII]

Tim be putting his foot in his mouth sometimes 😂 calling Swizz your big brother? You damn near 8 years older than him guy lol

[@gocpng4699]

Comedy

[@RDoubt96]

And he’s a way better producer too!

[@CharlieXFBA]

I thinks he looks up to Swizz as a business man though

[@prodilla340]

As Big Bro in the Craft, business moves, Branding RR Catalog

[@dicwolf5737]

Lmao

[@tammyharrison1330]

I loved every minute of this episode. 💜 Don’t be mad Swizzy, Banned from tv is STILL GO HARD, THE BEAT IS A WHOLE ZONE BY ITSELF

[@shellyjoubert4856]

I LOVE THESE TWO. THEY ARE OUTSTANDING PROFESSIONALS! They are legendary!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@xxstract28]

Swiss: “he’s a smoooooth zone, za!

[@uhasja]

Justin timberlake would not be justin without timbaland

[@justintime7673]

Nore using the same peer pressure he used on DMX last Interview

[@grydient3936]

Thoroughly enjoyed this. Legends in the building! Nore is the gas master 😂😂😂

[@siyandimphiwe4764]

This is by far the best podcast no lie !! I laugh everytime ❤❤🥳

[@SteveKalinda]

LEGENDS!!! Thanks for doing this!!

[@Chitow]

I really dont know how there hasnt been a Chris Brown/Timbaland album yet lol

[@ReidClarkComedy]

PR

[@Amirmarqui]

Huh? He worked on FAME.

[@oscardagrouch5095]

So Nore is the reason they were 🌪️ during Verzuz.

[@deaniecampos9320]

One of the best episodes yet! And I been here from day 1!!!!! Classic

[@kbob1394]

Tim's production of Jay Z's Is That Your Chick is easily one of his best

[@andyheath5244]

And hey papi n lobster and shrimp

[@prodigalsongod]

‘it’s hot’ is a banger too.

[@daoyster8579]

Dirt off ya shoulders point out da bounce he and hov got so many

[@dstu1699]

Don't forget come and get me

[@panorisholidaythe3rd791]

Jay's best songs was produced by dj premier Same is true for nas and biggie

[@Queenofsole100]

Saturday mornings with Drink Champs...💯🔥

[@lakersin556]

I might take a shot 8:43 west coast time

[@Queenofsole100]

@@lakersin556 It's only right. 🍾

[@SevenHunnid]

I get paid to smoke weed on my KZbin channel 🥶🥶🙏

[@HOTSEAThaas]

Getting the shots going in the Dogs name was genius NOrE 😫🔥✊🏽🦴

[@kilahlipstick9687]

I want to know how did Timbo know to put those cricket sounds in Aaliyah's One in A Million

[@TheKFLadyEagles]

I thought I was the only one.

[@oba1560]

He sampled them

[@hahadavis9216]

@@oba1560 duhhh

[@chukwumafodayemeh8330]

Talent

[@kilahlipstick9687]

@@TheKFLadyEagles There is a story I read that the radio DJ who heard it in advance liked the song but wanted it without the crickets because they said people would not like that so Tim took them off. I read the day before the song released Aaliyah demanded they be put back on stole the master with the crickets off and the rest is history. It's wild how something so subtle made all the difference

[@jamesriley5911]

The best drink champs interview yet🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@teamsolo2033]

One of the best drink champs. Great energy 👏🏽

[@100kthelostvoice4]

When Nore was beefing about his t shirts had me dead 😂🤣😂

[@sugarhouseempirellc286]

Drink champs is my fav always good vibes on here! Cheers Kings 🙏🏽

[@msjackson6131]

It’s days after Christmas 2021, a day after my late Grandmothers birthday ( My Heart) I’m n bed my kids n husband and are Covid positive And I just finished listening to Exodus in one sitting. It’s Love, I’m feeling pure ❤️ Like so many other ppl VERZUZ helped me n my family ( even though my 12&10 yr old had heard some of the bangers they still didn’t understand the importance, except how it made Mommy and Daddy happy n excited) it help our mental health…. Months of working n home schooling all together. It gave us something other then isolation