They mispronounced AND mistyped BOTH of their names. I love it.
@niemandkeiner80577 жыл бұрын
Well, Polish names (and Slavic in general) are really hard to pronounce for English speakers).
@Tycini17 жыл бұрын
I'm not complaining, happens all the time, in this case it's just a nice quadruple combo.
@zepter006 жыл бұрын
Niemand Keiner just type it in Google translate and use voice sound ..computer will read it properly.
@emceha6 жыл бұрын
I understand pronouncing but mistyping is just unprofessional. Also SHITKO? SITKO goddamnit.
@blackjohnny06 жыл бұрын
@@niemandkeiner8057 Yea, but at least typing should be correct. It is lack of respect.
@AJKecsk5 жыл бұрын
4:09 Love the wide stances and very slight if any footwork, with large torso-movement evasions. Very clearly shows the roots of this type of fencing in the saddle, against another mounted swordsman. EDIT: Returning to this three years later, it's beautiful to see the change from shoulder- and elbow-powered cuts to finger-/grip-powered moulinets, and the change from stresso-tempo to parry-riposte between the styles. To this day Polish saber is still my favorite form of sword combat, love the way it flows.
@boska_szklaneczka60102 жыл бұрын
As a guy attending in this show i am very humbled to see it has over 150k views. it took a lot of training to fight close quarters with little protection
@starhalv24279 ай бұрын
What I know about this style: - It was developed for use by cavalry, mostly against Ottoman Turks and Krimean raiders, so it was a horse against horse or horse against foot style, thus a relatively small amount of footwork once you begin swinging (Compared to western styles, at least) when you use it on foot - While it's associated with Poles, it was also widely used by Ukrainian Cossacks from Zaporozhia (Modern day middle Ukraine) - Characteristic wide swings are part of this style with intention to cut down as many enemies as quickly as you can without leaving yourself open for counterattacks. That might be because Polish army was relatively small compared to their enemies (Swedes, Russians or forementioned Turks) and dependent on mass cavalry charges for effectiveness, and the sabre was a backup method used when you ended up surrounded by enemies due to charging into their lines and needed to clear a way to escape. - Western (German, etc) influence was pretty much nonexistent in this style, but from what I learned back in school it took huge inspiration from Hungarian, Serbian and Arab fighting styles (Much like Polish military organisation was also inspired by Balkan cultures)
@TheFazior7 жыл бұрын
Polish Cross Sabre, fast and deadly, love it.
@charliefasurf10005 жыл бұрын
Actually the history of Polish saber fighting has nothing to do with Turkish or German school of sword fighting. Poles developed saber technique specifically to chop onions and potatoes in-flight as they fall into the cauldron to form a tasty traditional Polish stew after hard day of work. In the later era it was also used in sword fighting, once Turks and Germans ran out of their own onions and potatoes and came loitering through Polish lands in search for these highly-praised vegetables. Just my opinion!
@sahiel55 жыл бұрын
idiota
@Bialy_15 жыл бұрын
Actually patatoes are from America and came to Europe long after Germans and Turks started making trips to Poland to rob and murder.. but good try nevertheless.
@DonTatari5 жыл бұрын
@@BruceMcCulloch0 if someone fail on that its you . Biały said "from America", you said Preru , as far as i'm concerned Peru and Bolivia are both in America , second thing is that Columbus discovered America at the end of XVth cenury and potatos sailed to Europe even later , so whats your point chump , sorry Boar?
@poorpoora Жыл бұрын
Bravo for this flashy analysis. What do you think Poles used their sabres for in Moscow after seizing it in 1609? Have your country ever seized Moscow? We beat 100 thousand strong armies for centuries. Germans didnt dare to attack us for centuries as we were stronger and richer than them. We beat 200 thousand strong Turkish armies one after another before the US even existed. I suggest you learn some history before sharing your oppinions next time mate.
@kocur-ul9ku Жыл бұрын
@@poorpoora they did always with partners russians and austrians never alone they did always get fucked by the Poles
@BarnabaRudge5 жыл бұрын
It should be remembered that the Poles had to fight the Tatars and Turks, and these were very good warriors. The Polish knight wrote in a letter that the Turks were the toughest opponent with which he had to fight. And in the battle there were so many of them that their hands fainted from killing them. And new ones appeared in place of the dead. The Poles had to learn effective ways of fighting. One or several opponents from different countries usually fell on one Pole.
@kdssi6485 жыл бұрын
without Polish Sobieski all EUROPE would be muslims long time ago
@piotrmalewski81785 жыл бұрын
That was probably the reason why this technique looked like that: cut and kill or knock out as many as possible, as quickly as possible, before they surround you. And if they surround, you, create a sort of shield around you, made of your fast-moving blade.
@joeknow37125 жыл бұрын
Where did you get this quote? What Knight said this?
@i_love_crpg4 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, polish sabres are just evolutionized versions of eastern sabres. The polish pretty much copied and took their sabres and custom fitted them
@audiobookfr58454 жыл бұрын
@@i_love_crpg The saber in Europe has been known since the fifth century. When the Turks and Tatars [light cavalry] became the main enemy for the Poles. It was also the Polish people who gradually gave up the sword and knightly cavalry, and changed into sabers more useful for light cavalry.
@Gabriel-pd8sv4 жыл бұрын
The best part is that when looking carefully, you see sparks from the sword clashes!
@bialynia5 жыл бұрын
I find it extremely disrespectful when people don't even bother to check the name of a person they are talking about
@mareczek007137 жыл бұрын
I love how they pronounce "Jerzy" (Jeshy) as "Jersey" ;)
@yc.fjb.z7 жыл бұрын
Yahshy would be more appropriate in my opinion.
@mon0light Жыл бұрын
yezhy
@JaneXemylixa14 күн бұрын
Saint Jersey and the Big Smoke
@wojciechkk7958 Жыл бұрын
Guys, I'am from Poland, so I know little my country history. If somebody tells story that we lern the saber technics from germans or other west europian country it means he dont know nothing about europian history, or at least middle, north, south and east europian history. In the time where polish sabre was developted to almost perfect, in the west europe soldiers were using quite prymitive rapier. Thats way in the battles like battle of Kircholm with Sweden in 1605 (Sweden that time was strong kingdom, conquered big part of Germany, Netherland etc), the polish army simply devestaded the enemy, around 80 to 90 % dead, and only around 100 polish soldiers was killed. Polish hussar or less known Lisowczycy were operating as some kind of present special force. Training togerher with a horse last for few years. Battles like this was many where we were outnubered 2, 3, sometimes more than 10 times (or more than 100 times at battle of Hodow 1694 ). Becuse only by numbers the enemy could win the battle.
@kenanmemedov50029 ай бұрын
Thats right you learned it from the turks
@MrSoundSeeker5 жыл бұрын
Panowie - szacunek. Pięknie wykonane.
@handymancoventry6 жыл бұрын
Polish cavalry sabers were the best sabres in the world used by world's best cavarly, mighty winged hussars.
@pythonsotl4 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@brunobruno67353 жыл бұрын
@@pythonsotl eee tam cringe od razu. kawaleria się zgadza, a szabla to zależy od użycia, ale w wielu sytuacjach była najlepszą możliwą bronią.
@MntRprznt5 жыл бұрын
Polish fencing isnt heavily influenced by German, but cross influenced, since both countries developed their schools learning from each other. Poland was no younger brother of Germany in that regards.
@trojakmen5 жыл бұрын
Polish saber fencing is influenced by the Turks and Mongols
@martialfarts45095 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks for clearing that up, that was a topic I wasn't 100% on
@BreslauerM10 Жыл бұрын
Ależ to jest piękne Panowie!!! ❤
@朱译超7 жыл бұрын
that is soo cool , i wish i could learn it
@kdssi6485 жыл бұрын
you can, school in Krakow is available for everyone
@danbuter5 жыл бұрын
That looks like a lot of fun!
@sahiel55 жыл бұрын
polish saber dosent come from german any thing - cros cutng techniqe is uniqe to polish commonwealth developed throu ages of combat and experiance
@makorek5 жыл бұрын
americunts being nazis supporters. nothing new. btw. half of so called germans are Slavs
@raymondkoren21135 жыл бұрын
what the fuck are you on about?
@nl29355 жыл бұрын
Looks like Indian type sword fighting
@raymondkoren21135 жыл бұрын
You mean the tulwar? I can definitely see that, in the sense that drawing cuts are used much more extensively. According to british sources, indian soldiers very often relied exclusively on the slice as opposed to the percussive cut
@martialfarts45095 жыл бұрын
I thought the early period took things from German messer? And there were dussack techniques taken too right? I could be wrong
@ThePartia775 жыл бұрын
Polish cross cutting art it has nothing to do with the german school. Where did you get this information from?
@jurekmiklaszewski70275 жыл бұрын
I will actually reply to this. The first source mentioning the Cross cutting technique is Polish Księgi Sarnickie, he is speaking about the use of german greatsword. The source comes from 1575 while the first source speaking about crosscutting in Polish regards is 100 years later.
@jurekmiklaszewski70275 жыл бұрын
IT is a very complex isue connected to the fashions of fencing in Europe. If you want to learn more about it buy a catalogue of the To Arms! Sabre exhibition available to bu from our site.
@July__Frost4 жыл бұрын
@@jurekmiklaszewski7027 Has it any connections with a dussack fight?
@PL..Powstaniec3 жыл бұрын
świetny pokaz - z Panem Bogiem
@RODRIGAOBARRETO5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Truly.
@distie-fg8gb5 жыл бұрын
Is it hard to properly write their names...? They consist of the same letters like in english. Bigass tournament and such dumb mistake
@ShapelessElephant5 жыл бұрын
Amazing demonstration. Looks like the other guy hit Jerry’s wrist pretty hard at the end of the video and it wasn’t supposed to go that way?
@jurekmiklaszewski70275 жыл бұрын
it was not the wrist, he just beat the blade of my hand :) It was expected
@ShapelessElephant5 жыл бұрын
Jurek Miklaszewski Oh my mistake then. That “Jerry” was autocorrect sorry!
@danielcarrillo43852 ай бұрын
what are those baggy pants called?
@OO-os5yv6 жыл бұрын
the black gloves that goes down to the elbows seem just awesome. What model is it?
@dasjarek6 жыл бұрын
chłopaki wymiatają
@szablotukpolski52016 жыл бұрын
I tak wygląda prawdziwa walka szablą a nie szermierka sportowa :)
@andrzejsielaszuk55026 жыл бұрын
czy aby napewno polega to na tym, aby nieprzerwanie tłuc w oponenta?
@EverynyanSan6 жыл бұрын
To mi nie przypomina sztuki krzyżowej tylko jakies zachodnie wygibasy
@PomiDarQu5 жыл бұрын
@@andrzejsielaszuk5502 To nieprzerwane tłuczenie w oponenta, to aktualna technika. po pierwsze, pozwala wyznaczyć kto jest szybszy - za wolno się zasłonisz? Obrywasz. Po drugie jesteś ciągle w kontakcie, łatwiej ci wyczuć przeciwnika - sposób w jaki atakuje i jak paruje. Trochę jak w szermierce.
@MartinWoad5 жыл бұрын
Ta technika ma jedną wadę. Jedno niskie pchnięcie i po tobie.
@PomiDarQu5 жыл бұрын
@@MartinWoad Wyprowadzanie niskiego cięcia jest odrobinę bezsensowne, gdyż przestając parować cięcia przeciwnika, gwarantujesz sobie cięcie z góry. Parowanie i atak następuje bardzo szybko (po bloku szabla jest od razu gotowa do cięcia), więc nawet jak trafisz, to gwarantujesz sobie znacznie gorszą ranę (głowa i ramiona, klatka piersiowa itp są odsłonięte). A jak wiadomo masz zdecydowanie mniejsze szanse na przeżycie po cięciu szablą w głowę, niż po pchnięciu w korpus :P Dlatego szybkość jest tutaj kluczowym elementem, a samobójcze ataki nigdy zdrowe nie były.
@Hyymiee5 жыл бұрын
Chwała polskiej szabli
@FBPG6 жыл бұрын
i bet mistyping Szymon's name was really bad joke.
@maciej58664 жыл бұрын
Simon is a English form of Szymon so it's reasonable. Jerzy is way, way worst
@נוחיחזקאל4 жыл бұрын
Could be nice to see on YT other versions of saber fencing, like Turkish, Georgian, French, Armenian, Arabic.
@marekpodgorbunski936 жыл бұрын
gdzie można kupić taką szablę i ile ona kosztuje jeśli nie sekret?
@jurekmiklaszewski70276 жыл бұрын
ogólnie posługujemy się kilkoma rodzajami szabel. Jedne bardzo stare - już połamane, lub w zasadzie mocno znoszone. Prawie nikt takich nie produkuje, albo sie cenią wyjatkowo, albo też zaczęli partaczyć. Niektóre szable sam zmontowałem, składając dobre klingi do robionych przez siebie opraw. Obecnie sam robie szable. Koszt dobrej szabli oscyluje od 1000 do 2000 pln. JEdnak mozna znaleźc perełki różnego typu znacznie tańsze. Szable zachodnie kosztują mniej, ponieważ są robione znacznie prostszą i mniej wymagajacą metodą
@morvran90744 жыл бұрын
@@jurekmiklaszewski7027 przepraszam że odkopuje ale trudno mi znaleźć zachodnie szable spotykam same polskie które mają swoją cenę więc mógłbym poprosić o link?
@jurekmiklaszewski70274 жыл бұрын
@@morvran9074 tutaj jest nasz sklep. Silkfencing.shop.pl tam nieco szabel będzie
@RODRIGAOBARRETO5 жыл бұрын
THAT IS SABER FIGHTING!
@akdele510 ай бұрын
Why are they swinging? Couldn't they just do a faster attack if they didn't do that windup
@tordropzz28287 ай бұрын
Momentum helps lead the blade into the cut
@Крыжовник-е4ю6 жыл бұрын
Pan Miklaszewski, proszę, powiedz mi, jak wybrać szablę dla siebie? Nie zawracałbym ci głowy, ale nie znalazłam żadnych informacji w Internecie. Chodzi mi o to, jak wybrać długość i wagę szabli, w zależności od moich danych?
@jurekmiklaszewski70276 жыл бұрын
przyznam się, że ciężko powiedzieć. Zależy od stylu. Zapraszam serdecznie na wystawę którą organizujemy we wrześniu w Muzeum Uniwersytetu Jagiellońskiego. Dotyczy ona szermierki szablą na wschodzie Europy, tam będzie wiele na temat wagi, długości i wyważenia oraz stylu w jakich daną broń stosowano.
@Крыжовник-е4ю6 жыл бұрын
Naprawdę chciałbym przyjechać, ale Kraków jest tak daleko ... 5,5 tysiąca kilometrów. Dziękuję za zaproszenie. Jeśli pojadę do Polski, zapytam cię, kiedy będzie następne seminarium, i postaram się zbudować moją trasę, aby do niej dotrzeć.
@kdssi6485 жыл бұрын
@@Крыжовник-е4ю gdzie mieszkasz bracie?
@Крыжовник-е4ю5 жыл бұрын
@@kdssi648 W Krasnojarsku, jest to Rosja, tu niedawno mieliśmy Uniwersjadę.
@rickharrison14426 жыл бұрын
How long have you been fencing? Your really good!
@Adam-yy1pr7 жыл бұрын
Jeezy Mikaszesky xD
@askaro14 жыл бұрын
Niestety, ale to ma niewiele wspólnego ze "Staropolską Sztuką Krzyżową"... Stoją jak kołki i walą w siebie na przemian w jednej linii. Sztuka krzyżowa polegała na ruchliwości i zadawaniu silnych, naprzemiennie krzyżujących się ciosów szablą.... Szczegóły tutaj: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3akcqhjptKZq9k
@hereticalfencing25146 жыл бұрын
The video begins 2:30
@d4n737 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't mind the names that much. I myself often englinise my name from Jan to Ian (Pronounced Aye-ann, like "Iron" or "I am")
@DonEsteban3D5 жыл бұрын
wtf-no armor?
@Calandir5 жыл бұрын
Jersey nie rozumiem co mówisz. Mikrofon czasem się przydaje.
@reset63665 жыл бұрын
Odwet za potop szwedzki?
@bartomiejzakrzewski72205 жыл бұрын
Zajebiscie jest byc z narodu jednych z najlepsych wojownikow na swiecie
@andrzejkonkol53645 жыл бұрын
To prawda, tyle tylko, że nic z tego nie mamy.
@bartomiejzakrzewski72205 жыл бұрын
@@andrzejkonkol5364 kosciol katolicki i 7ydzi trzymaja nas skutecznie w szachu, sa juz gotowi do matowania, kosciol przetrwa 7ydzi zarobia a polacy ?
@michabrzozowski9802 Жыл бұрын
Przeczytał Jerzy jako Jersey🤣🤣
@MikeFeatherston07006 жыл бұрын
Tak w ogóle to jakiego wymiaru jest krzywizna waszych szabli do walki, 80mm czy mniej?
@jurekmiklaszewski70276 жыл бұрын
mniej. najbardziej krzywa jest 70 mm, i to jest węgierka. druga w kolejnosci jest litewska husarka - ma koło 60mm
@MikeFeatherston07006 жыл бұрын
www.wikireading.ru/img/392892_37_i_073.png To jest dobry profil szabli podobny do twojej? (pomijam palucha).
@pagal39445 жыл бұрын
Chciałbym się nauczyć :)
@zlycukier6 жыл бұрын
szacun
@adamgaka28446 жыл бұрын
Niewątpliwie!
@BorysMadrawski4 жыл бұрын
You meant "Deutsche" - "Germans" is a wrong world here, because Germania is name of the land given for all of us by Rome - the ancient land of Slavs/Scythian/Goths - part of Denmark, Deutschland ("Germany") and Poland lays on this land,... and there was no "Germany" as a such at that time. We Poles haven't learnt much from Deutsche or Austrian, but they has been learning a lot from us and Hungarians. Poland was a border country of Europe, so Poles were experiencing constant threat and pressure from the west and south and had to be always prepared and superior to overwhelming forces of very skillful Asian warriors
@tomaszbogielski83494 жыл бұрын
Super sprawa
@kross14885 жыл бұрын
bajka :) cos pięknego
@Lbmaniak5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's it!
@---iv5gj2 жыл бұрын
ppl: lightsaber fencing is so unrealistic polish quart:
@levifontaine81866 жыл бұрын
It looks like it’s mainly based on timing and the wrist movements. Almost simpler than military sabre. It seems based more on principles than specific techniques and plays.
@jeremahsilversmith74745 жыл бұрын
It may look like a principle but only when oposit fighter uses the same technique. I know nothing about it just started learning. I am a Polish man and I am telling you and many others that cross cutting against any other technique is almost impossible to stop. Its alot to do with the phisical and spiritual abilities of the fighter. Poles are individuals and no one alse can master this better than the Poles themselfs. They are Masters. You had those Masters fighting for the USA freedom and in many wars before and after.
@18ps3anos2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremahsilversmith7474 "and no one alse can master this better than the Poles themselfs" I lost you here...
@TheTata2tatakazika6 жыл бұрын
Ładnie!!!
@ukaszbonisawski16216 жыл бұрын
ale SHITKO?! :D
@pythonsotl5 жыл бұрын
xD
@bogumilpiotrowski71575 жыл бұрын
Cos pieknego!
@bakhiman4 жыл бұрын
1:30 by ukrainian cossacks, not turks.
@mrsmartypants45415 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck is Jersey?
@Mateo1982able6 жыл бұрын
Czyżby racje miał komentator stwierdzając że polska sztuka szermiercza była 'heavily influenced ' przez niemiecką odmianę?
@jurekmiklaszewski70276 жыл бұрын
Jak najbardziej. Pierwotnie systemy szermiercze epoki średniowiecza całej Europy był zdominowane przez wzorzec niemiecki. Oczywiście wykształciło sie wiele regionalizmów. Jednak renesans przyniósł swoisty rozwój sztuki szermierczej w Europie, jednak u nas dominował model średniowieczny, który tylko dodawał ciekawe elementy z ówczesnych sobie systemów. Dopiero na przestrzeni XVII wieku pojawia się u nas coś co możemy nazwać(czy też nawet nasi sąsiedzi opisywali) polską walką. Naszym sukcesem jest i pozostaje urzymanie tego wzoru, niestety XVIII wiek, to czas lenistwa i braku takiego reżimu trenigowego jak dawniej - o czym zresztą pisze i podaje wiele przykładów Dr Sikora. Nasz system nie wygrywał jakąś niezwykłą techniką, a tym, że nasi rębajłowie jednak dużo ćwiczyli i praktykwali szermierkę. Pamiętajcie, ze rozhukane techniki, ścisłe konwencje i sporty są konswekwencją zmniejszania sie umiejętności.
@Mateo1982able6 жыл бұрын
@@jurekmiklaszewski7027 Skoro tak mówi ten którego mam za mistrza, to nie pozostaje mi nic innego jak tylko pokornie się zgodzić ;) Dziękuję za odpowiedź !
@KohanKilletz5 жыл бұрын
Spratzpolniczi wallaczlaw
@eklgs44565 жыл бұрын
No i konkret a nie teoretyczne pierdolenie kotka przy pomocy młotka.👍👍👍
@MikeFeatherston07006 жыл бұрын
Panie Jurku, ja chciałem tylko wysłać filmik z zaznaczaniem że ten sposób walki kijami jest podobny do tego co pan przedstawia w walce szablą kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2GxXpiVqr6pi6s . Jeśli pan to przeczyta to proszę o odpowiedź :) .
@KeepHimAtBay6 жыл бұрын
tu Jurek, rzeczywiście to samo, ale trochę raczej styl mocno influenced przez kenabo - co jest dla nas mało realnym wyznacznikiem.
@sirhana5 жыл бұрын
SHITko OMG :P
@charliefasurf10005 жыл бұрын
His son is called Poopko, but you better not even blink or the saber comes flying ;)
@dorianvonbeck5 жыл бұрын
@@charliefasurf1000 BAHAHAHAHA NICE
@jacekjacek61032 жыл бұрын
Sabre faihht is ower 2-3 stihts ower
@bohunbohun66794 жыл бұрын
1610 yers Kluszyno 2700 Polisch husars vs 35000 Rusian and Sweden Victory Poland! 1605 yers Kircholm 3000 Polisch and Lituanian husars vs 13000 Sweden Victory Poland!
@viniciusvyller94589 ай бұрын
LELELE LELELELELE LELELELE
@Callvix5 жыл бұрын
Ale mają uciechę xd
5 жыл бұрын
A burglar's nightmare.
@kdssi6485 жыл бұрын
;)
@Sebastian-lj5rr5 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha that was good ... a few times I said ...WOW Jesus.....Jesus WOW....Jesus...Jesus.... \
@balcomoz4 жыл бұрын
Każdy dobrze Jersey szable. Dźwięk był Little bit shitko
@niktwazny7597Ай бұрын
To nie są polskie szable tylko jakieś druty i to nie jest żaden pojedynek tylko dzwonienie. Pozdrawiam.
@manoelgomesfilho50364 жыл бұрын
Ferraria, martelo e bigorna, nenhuma Esgrima.
@wetdroidedition25495 жыл бұрын
That Shitko guy is saying a lot of...
@MrSERAS806 жыл бұрын
+
@tytusromek96187 жыл бұрын
:)
@920005 жыл бұрын
Simon SHITko?? Come on... :p It's like he gets sh*tty KO's
@lukaszstegienko18557 ай бұрын
Hungarian school!!!
@ИгорьДавыдов-с9з3 жыл бұрын
для детского садика пойдёт
@Taborq2 жыл бұрын
Cyrk
@marszy19845 жыл бұрын
shit, not Polish cross art
@Barbarosich2 жыл бұрын
Polish, saber fencing without sabers, brilliant video. But it will do for some show for children) The Polish saber is just an oriental saber with a closed guard, and the fencing style is simply adopted from the German Dussac school. No country has been divided several times, the power of Polish fencing is only in the fantasies of Polish nationalists) Funny)
@pawepyrka930 Жыл бұрын
Jesteś idiotą, który niema pojęcia o Polskiej szabli.
@Barbarosich Жыл бұрын
@@pawepyrka930 don't cry my little nationalist. In addition to sabers, there are many different weapons and everyone adopts something from each other. Yes, everyone knows about polish saber, nothing unusual. A. Polish saber is a saber made in Poland... You have been divided so many times, you don't have any martial arts. All nations have sabers)
@richardlionerheart194511 ай бұрын
@@Barbarosich damn you still salty about 1609 huh
@jozefgowacki161911 ай бұрын
Bzdury opowiadasz, Polska szabla ma starsze tradycje niż niemiecka
@Barbarosich11 ай бұрын
@@jozefgowacki1619 Don't be ridiculous...Do the Germans know that? Evidence to the studio
@kenanmemedov50029 ай бұрын
Those guys are the reason why we(turks) did not be able to take all of eastern and central europe