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Synergy Steve Vai Signature Preamp Module Demo

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Want to cop Steve Vai’s signature tone? The Synergy SYN-VAI Steve Vai preamp module delivers the goods. This 2-channel all-tube module covers the full gamut of Steve’s sounds - from “Little Green Men” to “Pink and Blows Over” - with separate Gain and Volume knobs for each channel, along with dual 3-band EQs for fine-tuning your tone. Boost and Bright switches on channel one, plus Bright and Fat switches on channel two put a myriad of Flex-Able tones right at your fingertips.
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@sweetwater
@sweetwater 4 жыл бұрын
⭐️Let us know what your perfect Synergy set up would be in the comments! There's a whole world of amps and effects out there to explore, like and subscribe for more 🤘
@liberty4all885
@liberty4all885 4 жыл бұрын
Sweetwater a Marshall and a Mesa combined.
@TheRealReTox
@TheRealReTox 4 жыл бұрын
SLO-100, the Mesa, the JCM-800, and of course the Vai signature.
@Stringprodigy
@Stringprodigy 4 жыл бұрын
I would never buy one.
@wangbar1
@wangbar1 4 жыл бұрын
Stringprodigy You’re so pure.
@bludredrobin4900
@bludredrobin4900 4 жыл бұрын
Engl Savage 120 and B Man.
@smithfield06
@smithfield06 Жыл бұрын
I love Mitch Gallagher videos, no bs or bad jokes, or talking over the musician just asks the right questions and waits for the answers.
@ThomasJackMoore
@ThomasJackMoore 4 жыл бұрын
His music might not be for me, but I've got to say, I love how articulately he talks about amps and guitars. I can always listen to an interview with Vai. He also comes across as a very humble guy.
@Roxanneredpanda
@Roxanneredpanda 2 жыл бұрын
I love his music
@remsangachhakchhuak1738
@remsangachhakchhuak1738 Жыл бұрын
I really like his Music too .😊
@timothyweesner6286
@timothyweesner6286 11 ай бұрын
His music might not be for you, ( love some of his stuff, don’t like some of his stuff), but , I agree 100%!!! Gear wise, listen to Your ears, and your heart!
@magalionv6473
@magalionv6473 6 ай бұрын
La humildad no lo hace mejor ni peor guitarrista.
@EliPorterMahn
@EliPorterMahn Жыл бұрын
I have the synergy 5050 and a syn-1 loaded with a soldano SLO module and it sounds absolutely incredible. This is the future folks!
@bassfishingwiththeantichri2921
@bassfishingwiththeantichri2921 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I will cry like a baby remembering the 80's when my life passes before my eyes...... I will also die a happy man because of it. Music is the Best!
@vondragonnoggin
@vondragonnoggin 3 жыл бұрын
I’m convinced Steve Vai is one of the nicest and down to Earth guys in the music business. Looks like Mitch had some fun jamming at the end too. Cool video. Synergy Preamps and systems as a whole are pretty awesome and versatile.
@IamMusicNerd
@IamMusicNerd Жыл бұрын
I adore the Synergy system. It’s not just convenient, but the modules all sound fantastic. I love every one of them.
@naegleriafowleri2230
@naegleriafowleri2230 Жыл бұрын
very expensive too lol
@af-aftech6029
@af-aftech6029 4 жыл бұрын
The way that Steve says "Module" sells it for me.
@notarealperson87
@notarealperson87 4 жыл бұрын
now that you've pointed that out it's hilariously distracting
@levijessegonzalez3629
@levijessegonzalez3629 4 жыл бұрын
MAH Jewel's
@pbosche
@pbosche Ай бұрын
Correctly?
@RedeyePerc
@RedeyePerc 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see Jack Butler has done well for himself after getting away from old Legba.
@guitarlife6190
@guitarlife6190 4 жыл бұрын
Redeye Percussion I thought he was crushed after loosing to the karate kid!
@Peetie_Wheatstraw
@Peetie_Wheatstraw 4 жыл бұрын
He done changed his name to Scratch!
@ahiwalter9153
@ahiwalter9153 4 жыл бұрын
i really dig how Steve is always so appreciative of getting to work with these companies even with his accomplishments, he’s still super grateful to be able to have signature gear really cool
@SteveOuimette
@SteveOuimette 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a pro player speak with such eloquence and knowledge, and excitement. Especially when he's clearly had every option out there. Love Steve.
@palidiciovermingagurainia1760
@palidiciovermingagurainia1760 4 жыл бұрын
No decade is complete without a Steve Vai product- take it from a 58 yr old- saying since the late eighties
@gitarman666
@gitarman666 4 жыл бұрын
I too am a 58 year old shredder with 42 years playing under my widening belt sadly I only have 6 original Jems in my collection so buying this will make me feel better for a few weeks....
@palidiciovermingagurainia1760
@palidiciovermingagurainia1760 4 жыл бұрын
Ok- 6?- that’s 6 more than l could stand - ( blues - player ) just saying Vai is the king of gear gods- picture every month pitching new gear in guitar magazines for ten years
@gitarman666
@gitarman666 4 жыл бұрын
Palidicio Vermingagurainia haha true enough he has more endorsement deals than just about anybody worthy of note, only to be outdone by Gene Simmons The master of merchandise, although I would never want to spring for the KISS coffin
@AlexisGitarre
@AlexisGitarre 4 жыл бұрын
SYNERGY is EXACTLY the old Randall/Egnater MTS stuff! You can even use the old modules with the new stuff and other way round ON PURPOSE! So grad some older Randall stuff because those amps and modules go for like 1/4th of the price or even less and don't sound worse.
@michaelberry530
@michaelberry530 4 жыл бұрын
Finally an interview where Steve actually plays the module. Thank you.
@LordKlektar
@LordKlektar 4 жыл бұрын
Man, if Steve asked me to jam I would be so star-struck and intimidated that I would completely forget how to play at all.
@SlapChop1000
@SlapChop1000 4 жыл бұрын
your not alone...I've been playing guitar for over 20 years and I would still get flustered if he asked me to jam with him.you just can't help it because you know your playing with someone that can break a string on a 7 string tremelo set up (which makes all the strings go out of wack)yet steve is the type of musician that can still play normally on that now "out of wack" and now a 6 string guitar because his brain already picked up on those other 6 strings and what tuning they are at after that string break..there is actually a video that I recently scene from "Wings of Pegasus " where he analyzed this same scenario that I mentioned...I was in awe after watching the video and seeing this master Steve Vai still finish the song with only 6 strings and still finding the correct notes after the remaining 6 strings went totally out of wack...that's something I have never seen before and incredible to watch.
@juanmelgar152
@juanmelgar152 2 ай бұрын
That sounds brutal in every way. The cleans melted my face. Beauty.
@Eventual420
@Eventual420 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice to see Steve letting Mitch play his guitar alongside him. A memorable moment, I'm sure. Way to go guys.
@wesdavis8797
@wesdavis8797 4 ай бұрын
Saw him last night in Jacksonville and can say with certainty...the synergy rig sounds fantastic. Best I've heard in a long time.
@masque1313
@masque1313 4 жыл бұрын
Mitch is sitting there thinking to himself, "holy shit how cool is my job, I've got Steve F'ing Vai sitting next to me jamming"....LOL!!!!!!!!
@L.Scott_Music
@L.Scott_Music 4 жыл бұрын
Steve said "Convenience and quality". I think that describes Sweetwater pretty well. I'm a huge Synergy fan and user. It's interesting that Steve's module doesn't have his special knobs on it. I'd have thought those would be changed out by now. (Or this video was recorded quite a while ago.)
@IamtheActionman
@IamtheActionman 4 жыл бұрын
Mitch jamming with Vai - Priceless
@robd754
@robd754 4 жыл бұрын
what an awesome system, you can collect pre amps like hockey cards..
@CodenameCuervo
@CodenameCuervo 4 жыл бұрын
Synergy means 'Evolution of your Spirit and Soul' Steve Vai Rocks!!! Right on;)
@IntheDAW
@IntheDAW 4 жыл бұрын
man Vai gives things such a emotional feel and expression and mitch helps make it easy for non musicians to get what we are all drooling over. this is a amazing combo of presenters and a amazing sounding product.
@nevessl998
@nevessl998 4 жыл бұрын
Man, that guitar actually speaks on the hands of Steve Vai. Sweet tone from that amp too.
@mysticcynic9718
@mysticcynic9718 4 жыл бұрын
His beautiful tone doesn't seem to be lacking anything without the Fractal rig, but then again, give Mr. Vai a one string shovel and a gorilla amp and he'd be musical.
@Sidewalk_Surfer
@Sidewalk_Surfer 4 жыл бұрын
As if modular amps weren't cool enough, now theres a bright green Steve Vai module. Going on the wishlist.
@scramblesthedeathdealer
@scramblesthedeathdealer 3 ай бұрын
I want one so bad, that's my favorite color, too.
@ricdale7813
@ricdale7813 2 жыл бұрын
Dave Friedman is a genius and the guy behind this amp cooperative we are experiencing today. Synergy is a 2.0 step up from the Egnater and Randall RM module systems that were around 15 years ago.
@0megalul309
@0megalul309 2 жыл бұрын
its not just dave, its all the collaborating between fryette and egnater too.
@SlapChop1000
@SlapChop1000 4 жыл бұрын
I buy all my gear from Sweetwater..I guess it's the customer service that keeps bringing me back ..they have the best customer service on the planet..I've never had a bad experience with Sweetwater and for them to have a great like Vai on their channel makes it even more sweet.(no pun intended)
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 4 жыл бұрын
😊👍
@arlleyg3
@arlleyg3 4 жыл бұрын
What is not to love about steve vai, genious!!! The sweetwater guy is such a cool guy as well, always great interviews!!!
@superman198224
@superman198224 4 жыл бұрын
Everything Steve plays is the best ever. As long as he is being paid.
@brandnewyou5254
@brandnewyou5254 8 ай бұрын
The way he described his tone and what he was after took my breath away
@andrewpattie3528
@andrewpattie3528 4 жыл бұрын
Im just hearing about this module system for the first time! Holy crap! Game changer. I like the sound of the combo option.
@MOAONAABE
@MOAONAABE 4 жыл бұрын
sweetwater is customer friendly. bought a simple bottle of fret conditioner and it arrived packed as well and with the candy the same as if it was a 800 pickup set. its the sizzle not the steak sometimes.
@danwilhite
@danwilhite 4 жыл бұрын
MARVIN THE BOON Yeah, I ordered six Dunlop Jazz III picks....got the candy!
@allanwhittick2930
@allanwhittick2930 4 жыл бұрын
I have the jemini pedal, I can honestly say it's amazing, it adds a bit of a professional sound to what ever tone you have. Hopefully I'll get a vai synergy amp to go with it. Still love the carvin legacy sounds.
@jas_bataille
@jas_bataille 4 жыл бұрын
We all love you Steve. We will buy this product. You do not have to sell it THAT hard.
@klauswhitedreamer
@klauswhitedreamer 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, the guitar tones in my head ! Mr. Vai has a very special ear, I like the way he smoothes all the guitar tones, like a sweet sound for the finest ear ! ...
@JimsMusicJourney
@JimsMusicJourney 4 жыл бұрын
Vai is awesome. He just made me want a synergy system.
@liberty4all885
@liberty4all885 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. I love watching a master at work
@gabrieloalgo
@gabrieloalgo 4 жыл бұрын
Bro those crunchy clean tones are killing me... I would buy the combo tho....
@zzkeokizz
@zzkeokizz 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Vai is on board. I loved the idea of the Randall system. I saw him in concert and he went all out for our small audience of maybe 300-500. Amazing show!! He even dressed up in the alien costume. He's a true legend.
@grizelda4526
@grizelda4526 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@rkb3573
@rkb3573 2 жыл бұрын
holy shit. he is something to listen to. he was my first concert at 15. Skyscraper tour.
@erwocoolis9451
@erwocoolis9451 4 жыл бұрын
Ibanez: We have this master built PIA for you, made from Kryptonite and elven wood, signed by god, enchanted to never play a wrong note! Steve: Where's my EVO?
@Mr.D34
@Mr.D34 4 жыл бұрын
Signed by God? I don't get it, why would Steve Vai sign his own guitar? 🙂
@danielcannon3511
@danielcannon3511 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.D34 lol
@grgwashnton23
@grgwashnton23 4 жыл бұрын
wheres my flo rather.. hes using flo here.
@kevinsturges6957
@kevinsturges6957 4 жыл бұрын
Steve has kool Rockstar boots. Thanks for keeping the spirit alive. :)
@JEFFGUITAR
@JEFFGUITAR 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve. Legend. Starting learning lead because of you 🔥🔥
@JRP3music
@JRP3music 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the Soldano module was purple!
@gordontubbs
@gordontubbs 4 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Vai uses mass production pedals.
@Diax1324
@Diax1324 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, boss digital delays were some of the most expensive pedals you could buy when they came out. The whammy was ingenious and novel, and his vai pedal is probably just what hes used to. The boss chorus was a massive improvement on the ce-1. No more need for a separate power plug and a pedal that's a foot wide. You gotta remember that hes old haha
@shorerocks
@shorerocks Жыл бұрын
2 years later... but I got mine! Love it like the Uberschall. What. A. Sound.
@deanandthebeans857
@deanandthebeans857 2 жыл бұрын
Steve has obviously done a deal with the Devil - not only does he play like a demon, but he doesn’t age at all.
@gitarman666
@gitarman666 4 жыл бұрын
I need it! Must have it! I’ll store it in the box in my closet with everything else I don’t need or use
@fredpastukh3460
@fredpastukh3460 6 ай бұрын
Love it!Steve is reason why I play!
@Ryan_Messenger
@Ryan_Messenger Жыл бұрын
The moment Mitch realizes he's watching Steve Vai play guitar 1 on 1.. 🤯
@UnleashDLion
@UnleashDLion 2 жыл бұрын
Steve Vai's face when talking about modelling amps has me dead hahaha
@JC3D
@JC3D 4 жыл бұрын
flawless playing
@JRP3music
@JRP3music 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was an ADA module: clean distortion channel and distorted channel. There are other modules with clean or add it to the Syn 30.
@-thirteen
@-thirteen 4 жыл бұрын
Jaded Faith made one.
@JRP3music
@JRP3music 4 жыл бұрын
@@-thirteen Thanks, I will have to check that out Thank you.
@denismguitar1552
@denismguitar1552 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, anyone would turn their guitar way way down if jamming with a master.
@tearexxy324
@tearexxy324 4 жыл бұрын
O come on man don't be so scared to Jam . If you get a chance to jam with some one like steve go for it . It's all about melody. Make it sound good with what every you have .
@rodsdaytona
@rodsdaytona 4 жыл бұрын
@@tearexxy324 well put, I did Vai Academy class of 2016,.17',18',19'. Go you won't regret it.
@miltonex
@miltonex 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!! Jamming with Vai OMG! !!
@letsgobrandon7966
@letsgobrandon7966 4 жыл бұрын
Milton Siñani Rojas I’d rather jam with Jack Butler! True Vai fans will get that one. 😎👍🏻
@miltonex
@miltonex 4 жыл бұрын
@@letsgobrandon7966 yeah!!!
@mattbrillhart2922
@mattbrillhart2922 4 жыл бұрын
Via has def gone even more micro-tonal in his playing-even more than Beck. I’m not a big Beck fan but find Vai so musical.
@DarrenJohnson1973
@DarrenJohnson1973 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Vai on phrasing " you know "
@arnyarny77
@arnyarny77 5 ай бұрын
Reminds me of george lynch and his randal lynch box amp wiith different modules, he had these in the 90's
@adamr8878
@adamr8878 4 жыл бұрын
Mitch: "Steve lets jam Steve: "Sure". Meanwhile Steve starts playing. Mitch: "What the fuck am I supposed to play to that?"
@mikehunty20
@mikehunty20 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview and the Artist was listened to!
@JRP3music
@JRP3music 4 жыл бұрын
I modified my Mesa Nomad 100 so, I can add the Syn1. I am thinking I might just get the Syn 2, buy 2 modules. What I am torn about, is that I could get the Syn 30 combo and make my life easier to go to practice and have a lighter amp, both options are about the same cost. I already have too much crap on the top of my Mesa Nomad 100. I have a Parametric eq, Noise gate, Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8 and a power supply for the EQ, and NS-2. The Syn1 is another thing to deal with. I have a Faux amp head that has a preamp, MosValve, and ADA Microcab II. I could put the Syn2 in that and have a stereo rig there. So, I have to save up and decide what I want to go. I really have been excited by the Synergy setup. I am glad they have so many options. I am excited about the Vai module, the Bogner Ecstacy, and Soldano modules!
@MrPittsbrother
@MrPittsbrother 4 жыл бұрын
The Vai and the Soldano, maybe one of the Fenders for cleans. Forgot the Diezel!
@ZombieChingon
@ZombieChingon 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else pause to see what Steve's pedal settings are, or is it just me?
@stevewarren4813
@stevewarren4813 4 жыл бұрын
I would be like, "Yeah, I'm going to jam with Steve Vai..."
@MediaStudios-ps5tn
@MediaStudios-ps5tn 4 жыл бұрын
alien love sequence green, vai, you killed me
@irmasil3
@irmasil3 4 жыл бұрын
Synergy sounds good!!!!.....But, my Triaxis actually does a M2C+, a M2C+ Red, a JTM45, a Twin, a JMC800 and a modern super clean...I mean, I can't even find time to play with these sounds :) Throw a couple of ODs in front and you get from Gary to YJM to Metallica to Joe Bonamassa to Motley Crew and then some....So, for now, I am just saving for a second Triaxis :)
@MikeUIibarri
@MikeUIibarri 2 жыл бұрын
Nice score!
@graciespringhill7453
@graciespringhill7453 4 жыл бұрын
An orange one that sounds like a rockerverb MkIII😃
@imsupposedtobeasleeprightn9107
@imsupposedtobeasleeprightn9107 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad he grew his hair back out!
@stevenbeechey
@stevenbeechey 4 жыл бұрын
Steve and Mitch must be good friends :)
@robsondjesus
@robsondjesus 4 жыл бұрын
Esse vai as melodias dele e de outro planeta.🤘🤘🤘🤘
@brennanspies5364
@brennanspies5364 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea. Now if they could just extend the concept to pedals as well...imagine a small box with slots for effects pedals. No knobs, just MIDI footswitch controlled...
@johncruz5566
@johncruz5566 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to have one of that sitting in my network rack together with cisco routers
@oscarrochamusic4723
@oscarrochamusic4723 2 жыл бұрын
Vai + ibanez = 💘👌
@Valdenoyo
@Valdenoyo 4 жыл бұрын
I love how I couldn't even hear mitch's guitar at the end!
@mikejones-vd3fg
@mikejones-vd3fg 4 жыл бұрын
really nice tones
@travistoole
@travistoole 4 жыл бұрын
Even Steve's dimples are bending.
@leonidaspapanikolaou3165
@leonidaspapanikolaou3165 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic.
@SoulfulElectricity
@SoulfulElectricity 4 жыл бұрын
thumbs up for phsychedelic jam session^^
@Fenderdfm
@Fenderdfm 4 жыл бұрын
I seen the thumbnail and seriously though Steve Vai was advertising energy bars or granola. 😂
@MichaelRayHorton
@MichaelRayHorton 4 жыл бұрын
that tone!
@truthfactreality6814
@truthfactreality6814 4 жыл бұрын
Vai is so interesting to listen to
@Paolo8772
@Paolo8772 4 жыл бұрын
Vai made a classic Joe Raposo Sesame Street reference! I thought he already imitated Raposo with Salamanders in the Sun. But why is Love Secrets green? I hear many colours while listing to that piece!
@anthonyallard3156
@anthonyallard3156 7 ай бұрын
Feel like its too expensive you could do quite a bit of this by getting a jmp1 mp1 triaxis bogner fish etc in the past wnd get a ton of tones which are midi controllable. With 1 power amp
@newking70
@newking70 4 жыл бұрын
It all went down hill for Vai when he lost to Ralph Macchio down at the Crossroads.
@chrischoir3594
@chrischoir3594 3 жыл бұрын
sounds great
@ronchiles399
@ronchiles399 4 жыл бұрын
Trying to figure out if the chain on his neck can actually double as a guitar strap.
@Mikau-gb8uo
@Mikau-gb8uo 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing!! sounds like any other decent amp :D
@genaroayala8100
@genaroayala8100 4 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how other musicians have better tone with a lot less.
@jasonnantze438
@jasonnantze438 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely stated .
@narrvick
@narrvick 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Mitch is like - ahhhhhhh what key are we in? Ok ok - I will just stick to this chord. I would just make up an excuse that my hand was hurting if Steve asked me to jam with him.
@pdbordelon
@pdbordelon 4 жыл бұрын
Well it surely sounds fantastic but then again is there anything Steve touches that doesn't sound amazing?
@davidfellows6250
@davidfellows6250 4 жыл бұрын
Seymour Duncan ! 100 watt beauty that had modules that were pre amp gain stages that were great. Mine the output transformer went out in and no one could fix it because it was also the first to have power selector. I think you could take it from like 10 watts to a hundred. If you ask me we've went backwards in amp technology and I dont think that these thousands of dollar new amps sound better than in many cases the amp that came it the cheap guitar I got when I was a kid.just saying.
@musicmore8315
@musicmore8315 4 жыл бұрын
Am I understanding this correctly? This is simply getting the preamp sections of all the best amp builders that run into a power amp? Mr Steve said there’s no amp modeling is that correct?
@AriKoinuma
@AriKoinuma 4 жыл бұрын
Music & More yep correct.
@DaveMcCall
@DaveMcCall 4 жыл бұрын
Zero modeling. 100% analog circuits and tubes.
@robertomarins5185
@robertomarins5185 4 жыл бұрын
Top top very nice 😎😎😎😎😎✌️
@PJ-ee5mc
@PJ-ee5mc Жыл бұрын
Great video and great playing as always. I have one question as I dive deeper into this: If I use a Syn-1 or Syn-2 with Steve's any of these great sounding modules and run this through one of my own amps as explained, wouldn't the tone of the Syn module be colorer (effected) by my amp's existing preamp? I don't see how it would not considering that the Syn module is being plugged into the amps input. I realize that it is also being routed through the amps effects loop but I still cannot make sense of this and would be grateful if you or a knowledgeable viewer could enlighten me.
@stevenpagano
@stevenpagano Жыл бұрын
PJ, it only hits the power amp section of your amp, so it's bypassing the preamp section completely. Many but not all Boogies effects loops won't work with this.
@Andre_tc
@Andre_tc 7 ай бұрын
You don't plug it in the input but in the return of the effects loop. This is after the preamp so you are bypassing it. It goes straight to the poweramp. You can switch between your amp preamp and synergy's with the 3 or 4 cable method, I don't remember which one now.
@guitarlife6190
@guitarlife6190 4 жыл бұрын
Can you run two different ones at the same time from one module? Say a Vai and BE100 (stereo). Being there’s a space for two in each rack.
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Kevin! Thanks for reaching out. You can switch between the two, but you can't use both simultaneously. You could achieve that by running two SYN-1's and putting them through a signal combiner, a mixer, or just running them to separate amps or speakers altogether. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SYN-1 If I can help further, just get in touch. Thanks! Connor Smith, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1793, connor_smith@sweetwater.com
@thesoundpurist
@thesoundpurist Жыл бұрын
when it came out, I didn't get it. Otherwise I would have a Diezel, perhaps the Herbert and the Freidman BE module
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