Synology HAT3300 Plus Hard Drives - What You Need to Know

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Video Chapters
00:00 - Important Disclaimer! I'm Sorry!!!!!
02:07 - Yes, we have spoken about the Synology HAT3300 HDDs Already!
02:28 - HAT3300 Hardware Specifications
05:57 - Why Buy the Synology HAT3300 HDDs when Seagate and WD Exist Already?
08:24 - Compatibility and Support?
09:46 - Can You Use The HAT3300 on Enterprise Synology NAS?
11:06 - Some People are Going to Be Happy and Some People Are Not!
12:34 - I'm Happy... For Now! Unless They Become the ONLY Option
13:10 - The Missing Pro Tier?
15:07 - My Thoughts Overall
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[@ChipLinck]

I like the idea of being able to update firmware on the unit. Having said that, in 30+ years I don't ever recall updating HDD firmware. Ultimately, I want to see performance numbers from testing in a Synology NAS vs Ironwolf & Ironwolf Pro, and other drives. I notice on some of their newer NASs that the Ironwolf is on the approved list, but the Ironwolf Pro is not. I'm hoping this is short lived, and they either release a comparable drive, or validate the Pro series. I'm aggravated that they withhold features on unvalidated drives. So, I'm waiting to see what happens.

[@StevenDLeary]

One notable difference. Most regular IronWolf drives are 7200 as well; at least at 8TB and above. There IS a second 8TB, and 6TB and lower that are 5400. That means that on these drives, seek times are going to be at the bottom end of things. Oddly, they used to have 6TB that were 7200 (ST6000VN0033), have them in my 918+.

[@babeksaber2702]

Nice one

[@US_Joe]

Good vid Rob - thanx. BTW: I have never, ever, been wrankled ! You Brits & your expressions - Luv it mate! 👍👍👍👍👍

[@nascompares]

*unsheaved wrankling paddle* ....

[@Harmik2]

Please ask Synology about 20TB Drives. Cheers

[@DaystromDataConcepts]

My humble DS223's drive compatibility list ONLY has Synology HDD and SSD's listed now. SO much for locking down the higher end stuff. Yes, I know you can still use other drives, but if they're reducing compatibility on even low end NAS's, what next?

[@vidx9]

If I want a Seagate drive, I'd buy Ironwolf or Exos, not this shambolic knock off

[@DaystromDataConcepts]

I thought the HAT3300 drives were rebranded Toshiba, not Seagate drives?

[@basdfgwe]

I'm glad that I bought some (4) ironwolf today, after watching SpaceRex's video on WB Reds decided not to replace my existing WD with WD. Also I dont understand what you mean by designed around Synology system...they're just harddrives.

[@jmssun]

Thank you, I went and saw the video. It is disgusting

[@marksanderson5135]

When I got bigger drives for my NAS I put the old ones in a caddy for use elsewhere, are you saying that these Synology NAS only drives will not work in any other systems, if that's true its a reason never to buy Synology HDDs

[@BrianDickens4]

I'll just stick to my 16TB WD Red Pro's. If only because Synology only has the HAT5300 in that capacity which is twice as expensive for absolutely no reason at all other than a shameless cashgrab. Don't even get me started on Synology RAM modules. Those are absolutely ridiculously expensive. I have 2 Kingston KSM26SED8/16HD modules in my DS1522+ which, at the time, cost me about €200 for both modules (they're even cheaper now, their price has halved!) -- however, one single Synology D4ES01-16G is about €375! The same amount of memory would have cost me nearly €750 had I went with Synology RAM. So as I'm writing this, the same amount of RAM would cost 7 times more than that Kingston RAM. The only real difference is that my NAS gives a warning that I'm using non-Synology RAM but that's nonsense, the memory works perfectly fine, it's not if the Synology RAM has magical properties.

[@hockeybyulf]

Don’t forget VAT. The prices is not included.

[@MatthewPomar]

Is it true that Synology will not be verifying these drives with XS class machines? So the DS3622xs and DS1823xs can't use these?

[@batesjernigan1773]

Can't speak to the above models, but the 1522+ with IronWolf Pros did we're not verified in my machine. Just got it in and went through the whole setup process to then be greeted with this ridiculous error message. Returned the machine right after.

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

12TB cost $80 more than a regular Seagate NAS Iron Wolf.

[@HarleyPan]

Synology's own hard drives are LOUD. I don't know why. But they are awfully loud! Anybody noticed that?

[@doctorkj5640]

Look at the naming scheme: 5300 and 3300. Maybe they spared the 4300 for that middle ground tier if there is enugh demand. That way they will certainly close the circle and lock their systems to their drives only. So stop demanding the middle ground. :-)

[@meptalon]

Come on... the whole argument of updating drive firmware is moot really. First of all, as you highlighted it yourself, it could be done on other drives anyway. And more importantly... who does that? If you have so many drives and stakes are that important you can't wait to update something [which probably means you're always on the bleeding edge of hard drive tech], then you probably don't deal with NASes anyway.... Moot point

[@km3481]

My Seagull Shucked Seagates at the Sea Shore...

[@john211murphy]

i love Seagulls, but I could not Eat a Whole One

[@engineeringVirtue]

Noise? The competitor really here is the Red Plus which is quiet, yet 7200rpm...

[@Nevergplus]

Hello, I’m looking for an HDD Upgrade. Can you recommend any HDD about 12 or 18 TB that are running smoothly and quite and are rated for Server use? Thx in advance.

[@mysteriousfox88]

lower speed, lower endurance, twice the price

[@Teilzeitotaku]

"i hate seagals" aka "where is the shotgun?"

[@SKcdman]

i just returned from service day replacing old fully functional HDDs with 2x Synology 5300 4TB in DS220+ NAS. All went well I just cant justify 100% price difference our customer is paying. Thats just daylight robbery. He can have complete new NAS for just the price difference. Maybe these new HAT3300 drives could be more appropriate.

[@km3481]

Synology should just get out of the rebranding HDD business, and redirect that money towards their own NAS hardware...

[@blcjck8121]

The only thing this is designed to do is further locking down Synology's products, like they have with RAM, NICs etc. All the BS that it was only about ensuring the reliability of enterprise systems, when they first introduced the HAT drives, all sounds pretty laughable now, huh. And ofc they are going to support only their enterprise drives on their enterprise systems, simply because, more dinero. This whole thing is a cash grab, nothing more.

[@DrSnuggles22]

Total BS buying that overpriced HDD´s with some silly justifications. BS BS BS. Firmware updates on HDD - never made in over 30 years PC. SSD ok but there is no reason to update the firmware on an HDD. THUMBS DOWN.

[@souk-tv]

Seagate drives have always failed for me, I even have a 8tb one on its way out now too.