Synology Surveillance Station: Ring, But With Privacy

[@Trooper_Ish]

"I'm not reading that...." Acting's getting better and better Mr W

[@Melabor]

And THIS is why I subscribe to this channel. Real information! I've been avoiding 'security' systems forever because I never trusted these companies. This has me thinking now....

[@gimlitheone]

Same here. Just saw this today... but wished i'd seen this months back when they installed crap stuff at my parents place.

[@boneappletee6416]

I'd absolutely never consider an off-the-shelf security system like Ring, with no control over where your data's going. I'd much prefer something like this coming from a legitimate tech company, and having it all running locally.

[@ArticBeatle]

I currently manage a 500+ camera system with six servers and 500+ TB of storage at my 9-5 and the separate network is the way to go. It keeps bandwidth usage down of your main network and isolates then from the internet. Great Video!!!

[@samthomas3000]

Great video! I liked the idea of having the cameras on their own separate network. People buying this setup also have to factor in the cost of camera licenses if they are setting up more than two cameras. Currently one addition license for a camera costs $56.12. Four additional licenses will cost an extra $199.99.

[@bothellkenmore]

Ahhh, so the Synology software is free with the NAS and has 2 camera licenses, extra cams cost. Got it.

[@MasterBasser]

look into BlueIris, thank me later.

[@pilotbum]

How about a video doorbell with the Ring functionality and local recording?

[@ryPish]

Glad to hear that Tay is still alive and memeing! By the way, how subtle a movement could this setup detect? How about a precise summersault landing on a strip of paper?

[@SiimKuusik]

The right video at the right time! I just bought a house here in Estonia 🇪🇪and I got a Synology NAS last year (mostly because of their software). Mostly likely going to deploy this solution next year somehow, although the setup process looked a bit too advanced for a networking noob like me. Wish me luck.

[@jeffkang808]

Great review! I run 2 systems on Synology platform with 6-9 cameras on each. 30 days of storage and crystal clear images!

[@JaydenLitolff]

16:10 for the super paranoid you could set up a dhcp server on the synology

[@Gunni1972]

the super Paranoid stand in the corner with a Binocular

[@IdsMow]

Or to crank it up another step - Isolated vlans for each cam (stops someone from plugging in and having visibility on all your other cameras or a rouge camera trying to access other streams) - In line surge protection (stop someone trying to short out your switch or other cameras) - Use a well regarded open source setup for your nvr - Isolate the nvr on another vlan with no network access so to remote view you to vpn in

[@TheInternalNet]

I was literally telling my friends the other day I would love to have this kind of setup. Then BOOM there you are with a video.

[@alberto8483]

As Google, Wendel is secretly using your phone microphone to listen everything you say so he could prepare his content ;-)

[@TheInternalNet]

@@alberto8483 If it is just Wendell, Then I approve this message.

[@psyman_sez]

You can plug in all Hikvision cameras on the one network at the same time and then use the Hikvision SADP tool to assign a new IP to each camera individually

[@edboyro]

Mother of god, this video comes at the best time. As recently some people broke into my grandparents home ...

[@cjkokay]

I want to correct you about the hikvision cameras. You can put all at one time on the switch at one time, then either through the SADP tool or Batch config tool, you on mass, set the IP range and initialise.

[@locusm]

From experience I would say having audio is an absolute must have feature.

[@chrgeorgeson]

From experience if you have audio on surveillance footage you cannot have it be admissible to a court of law.

[@dh66]

@@chrgeorgeson only in 12 States

[@chrgeorgeson]

@@dh66 thanks for the clarification.

[@machinist7230]

@@dh66 which 12, if i may ask?

[@mills1178]

This is a great review and tutorial. While using the second port of the Synology makes sense I'm considering managing the vlan through my pfsense router. Regardless of implementation, you did a great job explaining the topology you chose and it's implementation

[@keylock32]

Usually my comments never get replied/response, as a person who often gives advises to people for technical stuff, it's really hard to recommend this setup for regular user, it's EXTREMELY HARD. I used to think the synology camera software is the main reason why I should recommend the ecosystem for people who need it, but as you point it out in this video the camera is already doing the heavy lifting for most the process, so the software technically only records it to storage so what make it so different than regular NVR?, there are 2 main reason it's so hard to recommend synology ecosystem to regular people (in my experiences) 1. It's the price, 2. Licensing policy is a bit ridicilous, I'm not saying the alternatives is better, even qnap, asustor had same price range but the camera license. For home users, who rarely need more than 8 camera I end up suggest to buy NVR from the camera manufacturer instead, because since it's only recording why bother spending more money just to get license to use camera that you already own. For similar situation like this, I just suggest getting NVR from HIKVISION, it's not even comparable in cost, you can get 16channel nvr for $100 or less even if you are only using 2-8 camera, the overhead cost isn't really hurting your wallet. The differences here isn't just few bucks, but it's hundreds if not thousand dollars more. For office/enterprise users I end up recommending them to use blue iris instead. Let say average camera the office use is about 40, that is $2000 for the licenses alone. That differences could be used to get better camera or more storage, ask yourself, do you really want to spend $1000 for 4-8 camera setup when there's cheaper (and probably better) alternatives?

[@mjc0961]

I see why you never get replies: nobody wants to read your wall of text. Learn to paragraph.

[@CO-kd6sd]

The problem with your comment is that you're making the assumption that everybody is going to have the same requirements. You're also ignoring the other functions that Synology (or other competitors) offer with their hardware. The licenses are also a one-time purchase and transferable. That's not to say that there aren't other solutions but some of your blanket statements are a bit ridiculous.

[@uss_04]

Got to admit, I love the appeal of Doorbell cams but hate the idea of it being cloud based

[@SixOThree]

And the lack of features and crappy motion detection.

[@euskafreez]

High five to you guys, that is the best thing I've seen or read so far regarding cctv for home.

[@Ed-sh8jt]

Wendell, I did this synology setup surveillance setup last year, There is a bandwith trade off i would not recommend more than 3 cameras with under1gig modem. Also if remember i had some modem conflicts with synology had to do manual config changes to get it to work

[@EposVox]

Hmmmm, I wonder if my existing cameras will loop into this so I can ditch my current NVR

[@bipinkumark]

if the camera supports ONVIF, it should in theory work with synology

[@mixit247]

I do recommend to replace your analog cameras but if that is prohibitive you could also purchase an IP encoder like the axis M7016 or the likes to encode your analog video.

[@rodfer5406]

Nice. Did that set up a year ago, and it works like a charm.

[@EsotericArctos]

I've recently stated experimenting with Surveillance Station. I have a question. How do you stop Surveillance Station messing around with the camera settings? I already have my camera's setup with my preferred bitrate, resolution, FPS and all that, but if I add the camera to Surveillance Station, it goes and screws with my settings that I already took the time to setup to how the work best for me.

[@BPrescottX]

I went from using Synology SS with 9 ip cameras for 7+ years to Ring with 8 cameras all wireless via solar. I bought all of my Ring stuff on Amazon Prime Day. Ring has been a much better experience for me because it always works. I also bundle Rings security system with it for 10 bucks a month, both have been extremely good. With that said... Synology SS is very good, but requires a lot of maintenance. The problems mostly lie with the cameras. I CONSTANTLY dealt with cameras issues as they would constantly go down, require updates, ect. I owned several Hikvision, TrendNet, Foscam cameras over the years. Most cameras suppliers require to to set up there stuff through terrible web apps that usually don't work. My suggestion is if you choose to use Synology make sure you buy a single brand of camera and don't cheap out. I am keeping my Synology setup but only for backup because I have the equipment, but I am only using the FOSCAM cameras because they have mobile apps for ip and settings management. Ring is FAR more simple and also cost worthy if you purchase on sale. Did he mention the $50 price tag you have to pay for EACH camera licence on a Synology? I have $400 in licences alone! Sorry for the word vomit. This review just felt short sided coming from someone who used SS for 7 years and has deep experience using both setups.

[@fuupdaass275]

Let us know👍

[@JohnSmith-yz7uh]

Motioneye does the same thing and runs even on a raspberry pi (MotionOS) and is open source.

[@chadwickwood9843]

Part of the appeal for something like ring is the easy ability to view what's going on from a mobile phone app.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@chadwickwood9843 sure. But that functionallity instantly opens up loads of security and privacy issues. Not everyone is comfertable with that.

[@matthew98594]

@@chadwickwood9843 Can do the same thing with Synology

[@briythepcguy7051]

People who buy Rings cams are not the same people who by RaspberryPi's. These ring devices are made for the simple person.

[@okjd159]

I'm using ZoneMinder on a Raspberry PI just one camera don't know how many but it works. It can be programmed to use motion detect to follow the motion.

[@abstraconcept]

It is possible to conclude that this is a sponsored video without hearing the explicit mention at 0:47 or 2:32, but I think it should be more clearly indicated in the video description, and maybe displayed onscreen at that start, as is done by LTT.

[@HiMyNameIsColdguy]

This is a great video adding this to the list of future projects

[@AlottaDixonCider]

I've had a synology NAS for about 12 years and love it. The company's support is great b/c I'm a complete NAS noob.

[@tiavor]

to access both networks at the same time, you can add an alternative IP to your network port.

[@trumanhw]

*The PRINCIPLES of choosing NVR & Cameras* - Identify the areas that are the most: 1. Likely path of a Person of Interest 2. Things that are likely to be stolen 3. That has "sensitive information or "access control" 4. The point that people have to pass through -- ideally, SLOWLY (fast motion = blurry) 5. Understand DORI -- Distance which the sensor's resolution is adequate to see: A. Detect. ... see something happening, but not WHAT, & cldn't ID the person in court. B. Observe. ... See what's happening, but can't recognize people you know even... C. Recognize. ... see detail to recognize (already known) -- not enough to ID strangers E. Identify ... see enough to ID strangers in court (legal standard). *Decide what features . you need to accomplish DORI 'missions' as required* *PICK THE CAMERAS FIRST BEFORE THE NVR* *IF you can, deal w sacrifices of higher cost or less performance to have 1 mfr -- it's worth it! *ONVIF is not a guarantee: NVRs will have "primary support" and "tenuous support for mfrs'* - Some will have H.265, some won't. Or won't handle the PTZ of a mfr well. Ask them which. Remember: Surveillance couldn't be more diff. from photography: Subjects move, distance & lighting suck, You're LUCKY if 10% of megapixel are on the subject. A person's face is roughly two-coke-cans wide ... and won't be NEARLY as still as that can was. You may get all of 3 seconds in which the person is on the only IP cam. for the area. If it's blurry in that "all of nothing moment" ...? The entire system was worthless. Cameras I used with the aforementioned NVRs: 8 MP Hikvision DS-2CD2085FWD-I 4 MP Dahua HDBW4431R-ZS 12 MP Bosch [Fisheye] 70122 F 12 MP Uniview [PTZ] IPC6258SR-X22P 4K UHD PTZ IR 12 MP Samsung [Bullet] SNB-9000 12 MP Samsung [Dome] PNO-9080 5 MP Samsung [Indoor Fisheye] SNF-8010M 5 MP Samsung [Outdoor Fisheye] SNF-8010VM Wendel's choice (Hikvision) = good "prosumer" bang per $. Dahua's H.265 is more mature. Text on coke can: Look what % of the entire image the can is. The ENTIRE image = 8MP The can's "area on the sensor" through a lens with a 90˚ 𝜽 is ... 1/100th ...? A face is about 2x the width of a coke-can. It won't be still. May not have good lighting. If you want to see the truth of whether you system will work for you, buy ONE CAMERA of the price you can afford ... and try to go through that area with various lighting and see if it'll have enough data to get you convicted. "Legal" isn't your goal..? Identifying people you know of is? (Determining who's responsible to clean the dishes..?) Great; test that. SEE if it's going to make a difference relative to your real budget. Wendel's cameras: DS-2CD2085FWD-I ... NVR's I've tried that sucked or were "okay": QNAP • Dahua NVR5432 • Synology DS1817+ • *MilestoneSys.com* (latter being pref.) Dahua UI sucked & it'd reboot at random times..? QNAP / Synology: Too long ago so didn't have H.265 -- and didn't have adequate camera support. But what hasn't changed..? Surveillance is an afterthought for these companies; use a SPECIALIST (Milestone or similar) I strongly recommend you check out MilestoneSys.com. The GPU acceleration is EPIC cool! Hope this was useful to someone. (If you buy things based on cool features per camera ... or shop for MP alone..? You won't have adequate space on your drives to realize you were robbed and then to find the perp before it's deleted. Or -- the frame rate will be too low to get a good image. Or, you'll have their face -- as a blurry blob that does you no legal utility. Be PRACTICAL. Ideally, get people's face at some point they have to walk slowly through. Or be in for a bit... discretely. (Like using a hidden peep hole camera on an elevator). Make SURE there is adequate lighting, or you'll just have a blurry streak (long exposure means no crisp images). Fast shutter with inadequate light means either dark images or VERY VERY Grainy. Remember, the sensor in these cameras ...? Are usually 2-3 generations old Sony sensors that are 1/2.5" ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format Look at the 1/2.5" vs. a DX or FX lens ... and then remember: It's GOING to be about a 90˚ Good luck! JOIN IPVM to get good info -- and tell them Truman sent you ... you may get a discount.

[@SixOThree]

One of the cool features of Surveillance Station is you can do motion detection and analysis after the fact. Also you can create "actions" that will call IFTTT or WebHook.

[@DECrainbow100A]

Disable UPNP, no default gateway, set up a local tme server... all to keep your cameras from ever reaching the internet. SDAP is HikVision software to connect and configure camera(s)

[@finitestatemachine]

In your setup environment, how do you connect. a wireless IP camera to the synology? I would assume that somehow you would need to connect the wireless camera to a router that is also connect to the POE switch that is on the same network as the synology. If so, how do you configure the router's and access point (if needed)'s IP address setting? would this router be able to get on the internet then? If I need to let this router to get on the internet so that some of the wireless device that is connect to the router are able to access via internet, how should I implement this setup and configure the router?

[@Adamation2011]

Already running Synology Surveillance Station, makes me happy to know I made the right choice and its Wendell approved.

[@joshhardin666]

if you have a single-port synology, you can just use another port on your firewall for a seperate subnet for your poe switch then set your firewall to only allow traffic from the poe switch subnet to the synology.

[@Jaker788]

So who can weigh in on CCD vs CMOS sensor for surveillance? I've heard CCD is better in low light or something like yhat

[@hycron1234]

Search CCD vs CMOS on youtube.

[@dondon4720]

I'm still deciding between synology or unifi protect, it will only be like 3 or 4 cameras but I also want a doorbell cam and I know unifi is making one, so I am debating on just getting those

[@kyleiswell]

How about the Unifi Protect lineup? I'm a Ubiquiti nut, but I don't have enough experience with the camera lineup to know if it is open source or not.

[@TechnIx12]

Unifi Video is their (older) NVR software, and it's freely available to set up on any linux device (eg like my Unraid server) - it just only works with Ubiquiti cameras. It works really well and is still supported. I think Unifi Protect is their new software that is a bit more locked down

[@IdsMow]

I was hoping to see a ring alternative setup with a call point that starts a 2 way video call .ect, Also on the topic of scaling detection using camera hardware are there any suggestions to flash on to the units?

[@tipturkey1283]

some of the sites I work at (IT tech) are considering a move to HIKvision, this was really good as I haven't had access to look at these before security contractors get involved

[@nodave77]

How on earth can you do a in depth video on synology surveillance and not mention that you most likely will have to buy a license for extra cameras? Depending on the synology you buy it might come with 2 licenses, but if you need more a license is something like $50 per camera view. It is nice that the license is supposed to be transferable if you switch to a different NAS or upgrade your camera.

[@defdogg2951]

I have that very same sweater. Extremely comfortable!

[@rodfer5406]

Nice. Did that set up a year ago; works like a charm.

[@skystink]

I did not understand very well why you cant connect your cameras to the same network. I have an Synology that has only one Ethernet port. I hooked it up to the router. The router is then connected to a PoE switch were all the cameras are. Is this a security issue?

[@oldtimergaming9514]

The synology license fee for each camera is way too high, I personally feel charging a fee to hook up cameras is a scam and synology needs an ass beating for that.

[@AdversityZone]

sure the Synology Surveillance station is good but a 4 cam License pack Price: ~$250 on top of the $1000's you just spent on there NAS system. that is a bit rich your better off getting cams that do all the detection on the cam (as you said there full blown computers now) and they just send the resulting data for storage on the NAS PS:= i use this setup

[@jadesprite]

you can also use an open-source station like motioneye or zoneminder. (i found motioneye to be very laggy but zm does works perfectly for me) - he's right that ip cams are all standardized so when buying a camera you just need to check what standards it uses and check on your software of choice to make sure it supports those.

[@AdversityZone]

@@wartlme what world are you on? Pi ~$55, cam ~$200(each), drives ~$200 (each), 2 PSU 's ~$100, + more? give me a NAS that has more RAM and more CPU and a operating system that just works and no fiddling for weeks to get it to all play nice its just rich that expect you to pay a lot more for something that costs them nothing.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@AdversityZone a pi or rock64 with a camera is a 50 bucks ip camera running it's own open source os on it's own hardware that can be security hardened as much as you feel you need. So 50 bucks per camera. Add a switch, some wiring and another pi or other cheap computer to function as a nas with a couple of drives connected and you have a system capable of any functionallity you want and able to run pretty much any analisys or software you need, have everything encrypted all the way and you can customise it however you want. Add a mic and/or speaker, lighting control, automatic notifications, automated gate system with face recognition for security, have it control switches or other equipment at certain events. Like have it close shutters or turn on lights and the tv when some unknown person aproaches the property to make it look like you are home etc. Put in a couple of steppers and you have a remote controlled camera that can move and follow objects or people. Possibilities are endless with open systems like raspberry pi's or other single board computers that just run linux.. On the other hand. These are plug and play and much easier and faster to set up and have a community support system you can use if you run into problems. All depends on budget, requirements, knowledge of the operator and the function the system needs to perform what is the best solution.

[@JoriDiculous]

Been looking to this for quite some time. But getting cameras (on a budget) that work outdoor in a place with climate, is a pain in the butt. Most cameras that are "affordable" want "operate" below +5C, with a few up to -5C. That's a problem where winter normally drops to -20 - -30C. Already got a Synolgy running as a Media server, backup and "dump".

[@spyrule]

For DHCP, the Synology NAS has its own DHCP server you can assign per port.

[@CBrown42991]

How come we don't see more security cameras with 60fps? If we can do 4k at 30fps should we not be able to do 1080p at 60fps at this point? Since we have H.265 video compression being more widely used bandwidth and storage space shouldn't be an issue anymore for that much data.

[@gaewing]

I bought some cameras that do not have audio. I have run Poe car6 cable. Is there a way to add a speaker and microphone using the powe on the cat 6 cable at the camera in outdoor enviroment going back to my NVR?

[@billparsons7732]

The overview I've been looking for; fantastic job, thank you.

[@Matushke]

Hi, I have a question. Can I use one Synology NAS (with Synology Surveillance running) to record footage from cameras at two remote locations? My case is that I am using Synology Surveillace for cameras at home and I own coffe shop where I want to add some cameras but don't want to buy separate Synology NAS just for those 3 cameras. Can I add remote location cameras to Synology at my house? Using VPN maybe? Thanks for the answer!

[@JasonLeaman]

HUGE Hikvision fan here ! All my Security cameras run of a BlueIris in a vm on my server on a dedicated Vlan network. :)

[@57Wolve]

Same here, Axis, Dahua, and Hikvision. But mostly Axis and Hikvision. All on a VLAN, VyOS router for an isolated network, remote network access using secure zero-trust network access using Yubikeys for MFA to access the NVR.

[@microhaxo]

Great video but it would have been nice for you to show the mobile app and its features. You did compare it to ring which has a major benefit of mobile notifications and access.

[@arkama67]

That was just awesome Wendell, I'm building up a surveillance system at my workplace. I can easily already spare 10k€ on the original estimate and have much better parts, hardware and a fully upgradable system. Thanks.

[@ednewell61]

Could you do a follow-up regarding specific motion detection settings? I use the synology settings but have trouble finding the right balance between threshold and sensitivity

[@SamSutin]

Where do you purchase surplus Hikvision cameras?

[@mechtheist]

Going with non-IP cameras isn't all that onerous, they have cables that are made for this, the power and coax cables are attached. POE switches can be kinda expensive. What is most irksome for IP cameras is how few of them come with DHCP enabled--WTF? It makes setting up new cameras a bit of a chore. For outdoor connections, I recommend using some kind of dielectric grease to help with waterproofing, I've had a lot of connections go bad due to water incursion.

[@AfifAhmad]

You should try the Hikvision NVR. It supports Plug n Play for their cameras, no setup needed!

[@hemmoau]

I love watching Wendell use his hick vision.

[@andljoy]

Hey what did we do ? All my security cameras are 1080p and i am in the UK ! Also why not just use a VLAN ? No messing arround with multiple switches and setting IPs on different networks. You could even have another DHCP server for the VLAN.

[@scottm5191]

Where'd you get the government surplus from?

[@richardallankellogg]

While this is a good solution, especially if you already have a need for a NAS, you should compare it to an NVR solution. An 8 channel hikvision NVR with capacity for 2-3.5” drives cost about the same as the 2 bay Synology ds218+. But the NVR includes 8 POE ports and operates similar to the Synology software. Plus, there is no charge for adding cameras. The Synology requires licenses. While 2 are included, additional licenses are expensive, like ~$50 each.

[@LordHog]

So, with this solution how would it call back to your phone that someone is at the door and allow one to have two way communication with a person? I have used a Synology with a PTZ camera about 4-5 years ago, but one feature that is nice with Ring is that two way communication and alerts. How would I set those up with this solution?

[@450aday]

would putting your cameras in a faraday cage protect them from lightning?

[@lkfng]

How about AXIS cameras?

[@ringlord13]

40 seconds in and I have to pause just to comment about the outstanding intro. I so needed that laugh today. Thank you, so sincerely!

[@doctorgadgetix4887]

Why the camera itself needs to do the processing? What about the Synology Deep Learning NVR DVA3219 then..?

[@YTEEsenior]

I have a DS1621+ Nas with 4xpro nas drives and two empty bays. If i purchase 2x surveillance drives and creat a seperate volume, whit size drives would i need for 2x 8meg cameras that you demonstrated?

[@jscancella]

What would this look like if you use freenas instead?

[@amateurwizard]

I almost forgot about dot-dot. Please allow him to access the internet and vice versa

[@alexitservicesgta7631]

When I build my own ip camera survallance system Always put them cameras on a separate network. The security and updates problem is huge for the cameras these days.

[@moosebear3047]

Does surveillance station require an internet connection to run? I do not have internet at my home but want to use this as a surveillance system.

[@MrV1NC3N7V3G4]

I would think the biggest advantage to having local surveillance storage is no monthly subscription fees like Ring charges. I'm surprised that wasn't emphasized in the video as well. Great video though.

[@orangeActiondotcom]

Thanks for doing this, saw a video on this subject some time last week that ended up as yet another silly gaming PC build with no surveillance related content.

[@PowerUsr1]

Hey for those that want to try. at 14:10 , if you have a single NIC synology NAS what I would recommend is you get a managed switch (netgear,dlink,cisco smb, etc). Connect a port to your NAS. Set up synoology with the port in 802.1Q mode. A trunk. This way it can pass multiple Vlans (multiple IP networks). Set one vlan as your "IP Camera backbone" vlan with a tag of 20. Set another vlan as "Management" with a tag of 30. The management vlan will have a default gateway pointing to your firewall (pfsense or whatever) or your Unifi edge router or whatever you will use to pass/route. Problem solved.

[@CarAudioInc]

no

[@alexsisk]

Quick question for the channel or anyone willing to share their knowledge / experience: When I set up my 4-bay Synology DS418 about a year ago, I had not thought of using it for a surveillance system. I put in four WDEFAX80 8TB Red NAS drives. I use it primarily as a video server and for general file sharing between multiple laptops and a desktop here at home. I usually have 16-17TB free even with one HDD taken out of play for redundancy. I know the Reds will work, but normally one would go for the Purple drives for surveillance purposes. Do I have anything to be concerned about?

[@lessevilgoog]

I like it. Been half-arsing my own setup using freenas, some raspberry pi minis with the noir cameras (grr for them not coming with emitters), and trying to sort out a monitor for them. I tried zoneminder, but it's darn fussy. Was thinking of trying shinobi.

[@Dasaricar]

You have not tried motioneye os?

[@lessevilgoog]

@@Dasaricar That's for the pi's, yes? I haven't dug into it, but have heard of it. Does it also run on the NAS to store files?

[@Dasaricar]

@@lessevilgoog It can run on few different platforms I believe You would have to check the list. Linux,docker, raspberry pi ect. There is a forum and wiki.

[@mastermoarman]

Have you looked at the trend net ip cameras?

[@MrChando1975]

Great explanation! Can I login while being at the other side of the world? I have 2 houses and like to check and configure the camera. Can you make a video explaining this?

[@TriPhatspots]

Can you talk about the license cost?

[@glonch]

Using pfSense, I just block WAN (in/out) traffic to my cameras... along with DHCP reserved IPs. Much easier to setup in my opinion.

[@qandmarco8994]

I have a Synology and want to set up outdoor cameras but those cameras are a lil too bulky for me. Are there any other options thats similar to the Arlo?

[@asdf51501]

Great video. This is exactly what I want to do for home surveillance, and I want to use the DS1621+ because I can upgrade to 10G via the PCIe expansion port, and use the Synology to record cam video, backup porn, er I mean VMs, linux distros, backup snapshots, and if i ever digitize my blu-ray collection from back in the day, it'll serve those. Maybe I'll even get fancy and backup security footage and other data to a 2nd (cheaper) Synology NAS. For lots of VMs, well, I have a Threadripper 32 core workstation for that. I think the setup will work well!

[@jadoei13]

Thanks a lot, I might set this up. I was wondering whether you could setup notifications if you use the camera to do the motion detection instead of using the synology software. I read that notifications are possible, but also in combination with the camera just saving some footage to the synology nas?

[@IReUploadVideos]

Live in the UK and install the Hikvision cameras everyday so that "joke" at the beginning would have been better aimed at Australia where they go into bunnings or costco and get the cheap ones because of an embargo type situation with hikvision there

[@grocerylist]

That Synology caressing clip that was reused multiple times creeps me out a bit. I appreciate free which Surveillance Station is if you bought a Synology NAS but I want my NAS to only be a NAS. I'd recommend a dedicated system for surveillance, specifically Blue Iris or even Zoneminder would be better than Synology's Surveillance Station software.

[@EmilePolka]

A cheap soc celeron based itx board with windows 10 and blueiris installed on it. Much cheaper than a synology nas, not to mention that blueiris also support quicksync so it wont tank the cpu that much.

[@Mr.Unacceptable]

I've been trying to build a CCTV with 8 cameras. Works great once set up. Trouble is Linux keeps kernel stack error. I have all the gear I just need the software to work for more than a week at a time.

[@QuickQuips]

Ah. Just got my nvr1218 setup using reolinks instead. Works pretty well though it's not h265. Way better than what ADT gave me. I'd go with the nvr series for a dedicated setup since you get 4 licenses instead of the standard 2. It's also faster to set up. Also iirc Synology has new ones coming out with some AI driven facial recognition.

[@MarcMarchioli]

yep, I have the new Reolink cameras which are h.265 compliant. I had the DS1817+ so bought two more licenses for $99. I’ve been moderate happy about the system. The complaint I have is that the motion detection is pretty basic. I get recorded clips of lights on a car passing, leaves moving, cats running across the field, etc.

[@emilodej3790]

This is pure gold .... as usual - great work.

[@noggan]

I have this system set up in my home. It's annoying getting notifications when there's an animal or leaves or birds flying up close to the cameras. Other than that i like this system.

[@Benjamin10283]

Link to post on forum? Went on and searched "Synology Surveillance Station" and couldn't find it..

[@Level1Techs]

Oops posted now forum.level1techs.com/t/better-ring-camera-alternative-diy-guide-with-synology-hikvision-ip-cameras/149425

[@stuartb3502]

Interesting (although I’ve been running surveillance station for some time), but doesn’t do what it says on the tin. I would like to add a Ring style doorbell cam, but with surveillance station. Your title brought me here, but I leave disappointed on that score. Now that, would be an obvious next hardware project for Synology or one to partner on.

[@Level1Techs]

Does the hikvision doorbell cam not do it for you? Works fine with synology

[@stuartb3502]

Level1Techs I understand that the Hikvision doorbells can be configured to provide RTSP stream. But the doorbell functionality and link to an app are via the Hikvision app and servers. So no different in privacy terms. I believe it would be possible to configure surveillance station motion alerts to the Synology DS cam apps. But whether its possible to get the Hikvision doorbell’s speaker and alert on button push is another matter. There is nothing in the Hikvision docs about this and I have not found anyone running such a setup. In addition, I found reports of poor stability and wifi connectivity (possibly now addressed by firmware). Setting up chimes sounds complex but feasible. Actually buying the priduct in the UK at least is not that easy with limited suppliers and some only selling to trade. But I’m doing further research and checks and will then probably try one. It’s certainly not an easy ride. My point was really that there is an opportunity for someone to sell one of these with good support for Synology and alternative NAS. I believe it would be mostly a testing and documentation effort that would get them closer to the Ring experience.

[@joeblow524]

can't you just run the synology software on a different NAS other than just the SYNOLOGY box?

[@moocow5107]

Thanks, setting up one of these next week.

[@NedransVikingar]

But just having a camera is not enough imo. You also need a keypad and an alarm that makes a sound loud enough to scare away the burglar. In Sweden we have problems with criminals coming here from other countries, it doesn't matter if you catch them on video because they are never found because they just leave the country. Unfortunately, Ring does not have a local storage, but it does come with a keypad and an alarm of 104dB. If I want to do something similar, I have to DIY together several different third-party alarms and from my own experience I can say that DIY'ing things never work stably.

[@klightspeed]

15:50 Or set up a DHCP server on the NAS 22:25 What's that screw doing there...

[@cossiewill9503]

What equivelant management software option is there for Unraid?

[@CameronStark13]

Spaceinvaderone just did a video on Shinobi you should check out.

[@armenjeknavorian1113]

Great Video. I was looking at the DS918+. In your opinion, would it be sufficient to run 6 4K cameras, Plex and V-lans?

[@MasterBasser]

id suggest Dahua cameras, and BlueIris for a control station sort of thing via spare pc. much better functionality and quality and way more affordable. plus Dahua cameras are just better in most ways over hikvision. just my experience and 2 cents.