ZIF sockets on E-mu Drumulator

[@mistaish]

Bro this is so dope. I have a drumulator in storage. This is nice. Thanks for the great info.

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Glad it was helpful!

[@RaquelFoster]

The sockets look like they're pretty nice already. I had a 386SX-16 that had SIPP memory chips, and installing RAM was ridiculous. A SIPP is like a SIMM that just has 30 pins on the edge. It took sooooo much force.

[@philippebackprotips]

Very nice to see how that was done.

[@DanBeauleArt]

My wife says I have zif. Aleays wondered what she meant. now I know. Love these vids man. Love the retro equipment.

[@arsenybezrukov3553]

OMG THE COCTEAU TWINS DRUMS!!! Thank you so much!

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

You bet!

[@guzowicz]

Really love your channel. Keep up the excellent work

[@klinkske]

I have a drumtraks with extra epoms, also the Kawai R100 - i didn't swap these because i was scared to hurt the 'legs' of the eproms - had this before. This video is fantastic. Even better you tell that the drumtraks has another kind of part needed. Paolo, you're the man!

[@bryceheffinger8895]

I just put in my ZIF socket's and it's all thanks to you! That was so nerve racking...WOW !!! My Rock Drum EPROM's come tomorrow and im super super excited. Thanks for the awesome content man keep it up please.

[@pjm8779]

Use the Force, Paolo! Not to insert the sound chips, but to continue to make great videos and music.

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Haha :) Thank you, PJ :D

[@greatheightsu]

What a funny little machine of the time. What a way to get new samples. Simple and logical though.

[@5argetech56]

This method is also used on computer CPUs. Which have many many pins. You just drop the CPU on the motherboard and then close a lever to lock it in.

[@ednasdiscomachine6049]

I seem to be repeating myself from the Jupiter 8 (etc...) video a week back! Again, Howard Jones toured with the Drumulator as part of his live rig (he originally used an 808). I worked for a synth company in the UK in the 80's, and we serviced his gear. Great video. Although I thought you were going to solder in the replacement ZIF sockets!

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Rock on! You had a really cool job!! These ZIFs are good quality and no need to solder them in, they are very stable! :) I remember Howard Jones with the 808 for sure, need to check out some old footage to check out the Drumulator too, then ;)

[@dosgos]

For newbies - use extreme caution with static when working on electronics. ESD best practices are easy to find on the we can start with a basic wrist strap. Wurth has a video on ESD risks showing you can pass over 10,000 volts to your electronics via "static electricity".

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

In the drawers I have literally dozens of wrist straps that came for free with pieces of equipment I bought over the years - I never use them and never had one single problem. I like to live dangerously. Thanks for jinxing it, though!

[@dosgos]

@@SynthManiaDotCom hehehe. As founder of the Vintage Synth Museum, you know ESD well. My comment was more focused on newbies. Nonetheless, I still found the Wurth video on ESD "shocking"

[@nicolasbeker6490]

This cowbell is instant fun (fun)

[@dolovfm]

Nice - gonna make some custom eproms for its younger bro the SP12 - there is a tool to make the sound banks properly now - i.e. 12 bit 27.5k not just 8 bit.

[@anthonyk5496]

My Drumulator has a commercially made switch on the front that toggles between 3 sets of EPROMs. REALLY appreciating that now. Not sure why, but I love programming rhythms on that old thing, just enjoyable to use, was well designed.

[@orenberg1]

Where did you get this mod from? I’d love to install it on my Drumulator

[@anthonyk5496]

@@orenberg1 It has a metal faceplate that says "JL Cooper Electronics 3-Kit" It was already installed when I bought it a few years ago. jlcooper.com/_manuals/legacy/Drumulator/JLCooper_Drumulator_Kit_Installation.pdf

[@TheZombo66]

Good Day Paolo excellent video and looking to do this on one of my drum machines, I read in the comment that someone has a Kawai R-100 I have both models 100 | 50 , I looked up at the Aries website but unsure which one to choose ? I'm sure its a 40 pin socket but options are required to select?? , I been budling a library of custom sounds but do not like the idea of forcing chips when interchange, could you suggest please which one would be a good candidate for my drum machine? I greatly appreciate Paolo have an excellent day buddy!! 👍

[@aurelionasvw]

Fantástico

[@justinlynn]

Awesome video :) I noticed that at 4:52 your EPROM window cover has fallen off. This risks stray UV light exposure erasing or corrupting your program ROM. You'll want to cover that clear window on the chip with some opaque tape so that UV light doesn't damage or erase it accidentally.

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Thanks! The cover is there but I think the hard angle from the studio lights make it look like it's missing. Great point though!

[@asdifasi]

The drum sound cartridges in dynacord drum modules (racks) were so easy compared to this chips! Cartridges at the size of a matchbox inserted in front sockets of the drum machine, or excanged with others on the fly .so much fun and memories especially cartridges with ultra classic vocal chops 😆

[@morphoice]

If only those were still available for purchase anywhere...

[@adamharris7775]

In this video, the Roland TR-808 was heard.

[@Ancaja123]

I have a Simmons SDS9 and a TON of EPROMs for it. I'm hoping I can find a Linn style drum machine that I can use these EPROMs in, I know the Linn has a different size EPROM so it won't work with that. The Drumulator look to be the same size as these Simmons ones!

[@DJShoji]

That "Rock Drum" ROM chip set (by Digi Drums), did they sell the same sound library ROMs for other drum machines as well? That drum samples sound very familiar! Great video again!

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Thank you and yeah - they started with the Drumulator - IIRC reading somewhere - because they were near E-mu, and then started to offer their chips for other drum machines of the era, too. Eventually they became Digidesign (of Pro Tools fame). "Digidrums opened for business at the January NAMM show, with several alternate sound sets for the Drumulator. They've rather expanded since then. Now they offer 15 sets for the Drumulator, and 35 individual sounds for the Sequential Circuits Drumtraks. Coming soon, they say, are alternate sounds for the Oberheim and Linn drum machines." Source: www.muzines.co.uk/articles/namm-report/8465

[@DJShoji]

@@SynthManiaDotCom Thank you so much for the info! I didn't realize that it became DigiDesign. The article gives me some context; it was around the time Kurzweil 250 was released, and Akai wasn't in the sampler game yet.

[@redspiderz6037]

Hi Paolo, could you please put the link of where you bought those zif sockets? thanks

[@StephanS]

I have a Drumulator with MIDI and the Rock Drums Eproms, but the Firmware is faulty, so the Bassdrum doesnt trigger correctly over MIDI

[@CrazyDriverSwed]

"Use the force" :)

[@djdesign_]

I got a q, without MIDI, which cable do you use to sync the Drumulator to say, a synth? They look like RCA cable inputs.

[@trevormalcolm4328]

How can such an old drum machine look so new?

[@barrydalive]

Hey Paolo thanks for the video! Any recommendations on where to find this style of zif socket here in the US? Been looking to install some on my Drumulator but haven’t been able to find this exact kind, thanks!

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Mouser, Digi-Key, Jameco etc. have them, the ones I used in the video are from Aries, I forget the part number but can look it up tomorrow - if you search for "zif socket 28 pin" you should find them in their stock. They also make "low-profile" versions, and versions with one lever instead of two - which are less expensive than these

[@barrydalive]

Excellent, thanks so much!

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

The part number I used in the video is Aries 28-516-11. They also have less expensive models that have only one lever / or a little bigger if you have space in your device

[@LouisSerieusement]

Does Zif Sockets still exist ? I feel nowadays chips are either soldered on the PCB or they are on a socket but not a Zif one, a simple socket (and they are a bit fragile btw) Thank you Paolo, awesome video, always a pleasure to see and hear your drumulator :D

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Thanks! Yes, today the prevalent manufacturing mode is SMT, which undoubtedly can make products smaller, cheaper, easier to manufacture automatically etc. - but hard for end user serviceability / upgrades...

[@LouisSerieusement]

@@SynthManiaDotCom It reminds me the inside of the midiverb (the first), it's so beautiful, no SMD, every chip is on a socket and everything was hand soldered in the US ; very nicelooking circuit board ^^ Thanks for your reply, cheers from France :)

[@Pianet]

Would it possible to get a video of you doing a jam through the multitrack tape machine behind you?

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/op61nKt3Zb2XnKM

[@Pianet]

@@SynthManiaDotCom Dope!

[@bhamadicharef]

I guess you do not really change the OS ROM as often as the Sound ROMs. Someone should have designed a board plugged into these 4 ROMs sockets with some little ARM chip with USB to load sound banks from computers and dump the ROMs to RAMs with double buffering. Maybe you can share a high resolution picture of the 4 ROMs if you have time.

[@xnonsuchx]

Luckily, those old 'big box' drum machines have enough room in them to just put a ZIF socket into the existing sockets. A lot of other devices don't have the clearance and need to desolder the original sockets and solder-in the replacements.

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

They also sell "low profile" ZIF sockets www.newark.com/productimages/standard/en_GB/1674770-40.jpg?01AD=3pASUN4L1uyhUar2H5Y6s-9v2ZOcqlQJMZAaStqRN4XfP6Qqx0Df26Q&01RI=0A4DBF103B38D53&01NA=na

[@sentry4944]

If I can give one small critique on the video, medium volume talking followed by ear blasting synth music is great on speakers but not headphones. Otherwise great stuff.

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

What headphones are you using? I'm listening on headphones too (Bose Quietcomfort 35 II) and don't experience any discomfort.

[@sentry4944]

I use AudioTechnica in-ear earbuds and I had the sound turned up decently to have you at a good volume. Just caught me off guard going from your voice to much louder music. If nobody else complains, it's probably just me. :)

[@DJJUANG2000]

Hello, I bought a set ofZIF sockets and they did not fit. Do you have a link where I could buy some, that fit?

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

The part number I used in the video is Aries 28-516-11. They also have less expensive models that have only one lever / or a little bigger if you have space in your device

[@DJJUANG2000]

Thank you

[@abeochoa1446]

The same company that made the legendary SP1200-paz

[@DarkSideofSynth]

Use the force Luke,,, ehm, Paolo! And join the dark side!:))

[@philippendletonmusic]

Hey Paolo, do you have a link for the ZIF sockets?

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

From previous response to comment "The part number I used in the video is Aries 28-516-11. They also have less expensive models that have only one lever / or a little bigger if you have space in your device. I've seen the .bin files online somewhere in the past but forgot to join it down, but I'm sure if you do a search you can find them"

[@philippendletonmusic]

@@SynthManiaDotCom Thank you

[@bryceheffinger8895]

where did you get the ZIF sockets???! what brand i need to purchase them!!

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

These are Aries

[@bryceheffinger8895]

SynthMania great thank you , you’ll have to forgive me I’m new to all this but just recently purchased my first drumulator , do you know which Aeris ZIF ? how many pins etc... thank you so much. Love the work keep it up.

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

@@bryceheffinger8895 Just google "aries zif sockets" and you'll find several types and vendors - from cheap to expensive - For the Drumulator you want to get a 28-pin version

[@bryceheffinger8895]

SynthMania Bless you sir

[@stevenowen8056]

can i ask a qustion?im going to replace the battery in my Akia sgo1v will h have to reload sounds via sysex or is there another way to get patches back in? thankyou for your time

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

I don't have an SG01v at the moment but I think the patches are burned in ROM - you can restore the factory patches using the procedure shown at page 18 on the manual. For added precaution, you can also save the program via sysex using the procedure shown at page 19 of the manual

[@stevenowen8056]

@@SynthManiaDotCom great thanyou so much.love your channel by the way.

[@micknight8158]

Was this an 8bit drum machine or 12bit?

[@birdFEEDER]

Bonus points awarded for the Cocteau Twins - also can't help but hear the beginning of "A Day (remix)" by Clan of Xymox - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGnbYmOMl7GhqLs

[@robertcrystals]

I've never seen non soldering ZIF sockets, where are these from?

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Aries

[@mojix913]

I like the synthesizer baseline what is it?

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ep3OaYhoaM52j9k

[@rodolfoescobar8145]

This rock sound equal army of me of bjork

[@timothydahlin5321]

Next video, you'll break out a new DIP flash chips, a memory programmer and show us what fresh samples sound like on the drumulator.

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

Actually I'd like to do that on the LinnDrum with the original series, if I can source them

[@johndoeiii6103]

Would love to see that

[@nuipb]

Hi Paolo, thanks for the tip on the zif socket. I'd be happy to have the manufacturer number so that I'm sure to find the correct ones. Also, would you have the .bin files for the Rock Drums eproms to share ?

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

The part number I used in the video is Aries 28-516-11. They also have less expensive models that have only one lever / or a little bigger if you have space in your device. I've seen the .bin files online somewhere in the past but forgot to join it down, but I'm sure if you do a search you can find them

[@nuipb]

@@SynthManiaDotCom Thanks for the part number. Unfortunately the bin files are not on the web anymore, reason why I was asking. In case you get an eprom reader at some point I'd be really interested to get those bin files. Thanks for the videos !

[@robertcrystals]

@@nuipb I have them somewhere, i'll post a link if I find them

[@nuipb]

@@robertcrystals thanks ! That’d be really appreciated. If possible when you find them notify me through here so that I know. Cheers.

[@robertcrystals]

@@nuipb www.dropbox.com/sh/mhtffz56w25fkso/AAB-diDqZgX_FwLL82A0LYA3a?dl=0 here you go!

[@angh3ll202]

They sound bad but in the best way

[@nrdesign1991]

Hmm I only knew the classic textool sockets with the single lever up until now

[@BboySalamon]

1983 rules.

[@zt5085]

Lol I wish I saw this before I put in the rock EPROMs backwards into mine three months ago and broke my machine

[@zt5085]

Was just trying to rip off the Cocteau twins ...

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

That shouldn't have broken the machine... was it working before? Do you have a set of good ROMs to test it with?

[@zt5085]

@@SynthManiaDotCom yea it was working when the factory ROMs were in it. pretty sure i shorted a circuit though and then two of the metal prongs on the sockets had broken off when i was trying to put force on the ROM to get it in place. i got it fixed and the repairman said i had put the ROMs in backwards... definitely a rookie move : - )

[@sauermusicDE]

Next video: Oberheim Prommer ;-) You don't have one, do you?

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

I'm considering getting one

[@sauermusicDE]

@@SynthManiaDotCom Guess what: Tom Holkenborg a.k.a. "Junkie XL" loaded up a video a few hours ago...where he tells that he is selling some of his gear...among which is an Oberheim Prommer. This might be your chance! ;-) >> reverb.com/news/the-official-junkie-xl-reverb-shop-preview

[@starglider101]

Don't touch the IC pins with YOUR FINGERS :-P

[@SynthManiaDotCom]

I didn't. And even if I did, nothing would happen.