The Fountain War - A History of Gaming's Biggest War

The Fountain War was the biggest war in Eve Online, and by extension, the biggest war in gaming history. It was between the two largest alliances in Eve Online and many allies, it lasted months and key events during the conflict turned on spies, diplomacy and straight up bribery. There's nothing approaching this in any other game and I think the story is worth telling.
I got the idea after seeing the Kickstarter to write a Dramatized version of the Fountain War by an established author - I hope after watching this you realise there's a story here which lends itself to being retold in dramatic fashion.
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[@maragazh9993]

"It is just a game, chill out" Eve online players: "I didn't fight in the fountain war for you heretics"

[@antoniom.8965]

@Noobz Threefortyseven dope. But kinda crazy you even had to do that. 🤷🏾‍♂️ but good shit bro

[@RanaRandom]

😬😬😬

[@shaunscott5276]

@Noobz Threefortyseven bro XD

[@ukiyo5601]

Ahaha this is funny 😂

[@RanaRandom]

*Heresy* grows from weakness!!!

[@actionms8566]

"To win a war, winning a battle is not enough. You have to make it no fun for the opposing side... by trolling" -Sun Tsu, the Art of War

[@erenyeager5480]

This comment is underated xd

[@ciankingofgeese8574]

Such wise words

[@garethfairclough8715]

trolling in an online game. Unforgiveable.

[@dienadel30]

Or marketing !

[@hoodaticus]

I believe he also said BoB delenda est.

[@user-nl6md8pu6y]

Fought for TEST in 5 battles, lost everything and died with my brothers in 6VDT. Never forget.

[@agentc7020]

Is there a perms death system in the game? I don’t really know the game but I’d like to play it

[@burgerboi0689]

@@agentc7020 if your ship is destroyed, its gone. but your character isnt permanently dead

[@danielbogorad9857]

Corey Knight æ

[@delirium1643]

I was with test at one point but backstabbed them and destroyed 12 ships HAHAHSHAHSHAHSHSHAAAHHHAAHAHAHAHA Just kidding we fought well. I tried spying but was caught I was able to get some info though

[@davianthule2035]

Tadhg Conroy ironic because test are allied with goons these days

[@astralbody13]

As a newer player to Eve online, this is just like taking a history lesson.

[@Jaktado]

Im pretty new to this game also i just want to learn more about it

[@ethandew1768]

Ikr

[@MrGunnaras]

fyi the game was way different back then.

[@hennifen8420]

Just started playing and honestly this video is basically a history lesson

[@BleedingSnow]

Then I would also recommend Andrew Groen's video on the battle of C-J6MT :) Lot of good history in EVE

[@MrThorne02]

EVE is a game I'll (probably) never play. Yet the stories of the wars and the politics is just interesting as hell.

[@ProSharpshooter]

fr tho. I've always held the belief that Eve is the most fascinating game that I will make it a point to never play.

[@agentc7020]

I agree it’s lore is something other games can’t do because it’s player based so as long as the game is played the story will keep making itself

[@karsonkammerzell6955]

Yeah, I love the stories, but after playing myself these moments are placed in between huge, huge, huge swaths of dead air for many people. That's not even counting the days and months and years of waiting on the required skills to do certain things, lol.

[@kingtimmy88]

I have the same feeling. I love hearing about the battles.

[@m4rcin847]

Sounds awensome, but still its just a spreasheet simulator with interactive wallpaper. If you want to be a part of stories like this you need to sacrifice your real life for that "game". Most of fun Ive expierience in EVE was TeamSpeak, not the actual gameplay.

[@lamorte42]

First page of the book. "This story is based on real internet spaceships"

[@duuuuuuuuuh135315]

Ric, you're a moron.

[@Teh509]

"Internet Spaceships are serious business"

[@Marinealver]

Or you could start Millons of people were unaware of the war that was going online.

[@zulioner7880]

+GENERATION OUTRAGE ikr? thats srsly fucked up

[@Alice-ox7pe]

Ric, BoB?

[@Despond]

This game is technically and politically more complicated than most people's real lives lol.

[@ismafalvar]

Which is why it's the ultimate Accountant's / Economists's / Office worker's escapism fantasy.

[@TacDyne]

Takes longer to learn than real life too if you aren't in a studio with 6 seasoned fanbois to teach you the ropes before ever installing the game. :)

[@dankumeme8760]

Sam Rides bruh who hurt you lol

[@isaacsaunders6860]

Sam Rides They actually do get real power though. For one, items in the game are worth real world money. This alone gives people power in game as they can directly attack people’s monetary assets. Secondly when people are able to create things these complex or work them to a high degree, they can get job offers and other such opportunities. Thirdly, leaders in the game can have hundreds if not thousands of people working for them, which can give them real world power.

[@AdityaSingh-lp5rp]

clearly u had a boring high school

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

Never underestimate the power of the Australian timezone - Sun Tzu, Art of War

[@RanaRandom]

"Hold my legs."

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Australian shitposters.

[@Bram06]

I have no idea how to play Eve, nor have i ever played it, but this is just epic

[@speedy01247]

+Bram42 agreed.

[@williamhemminger4941]

yep.

[@highjix]

+Bram42 Eve is a time sink like no other. I no longer recommend eve to friends. I figure I would just rather keep my friends instead.

[@TheSpearkan]

+Bram42 I'd actually advise against it. It sinks in immense amounts of time and money on subscriptions with little to no turnout. I wouldn't spend £15 a month just do be some worthless pawn

[@Bram06]

Spearka i never said i was play it :P

[@toysoldier46552]

To hell with the book, they should make a movie based on this war.

[@elichalfant941]

ShepherdOfMemories not a movie a show would better suit it

[@toysoldier46552]

Remember guys, a show is nothing more than a long lived movie.

[@peppermillers8361]

True, but your limit is a lot more than two hours.

[@superaids3849]

i would watch a animated series that way we can seen both sides of the conflict

[@Alice-ox7pe]

As long as there is no bais. I want a fair representation of what happened. Also an R rating...

[@galenwrathweld]

"We won't last long against those dreadnoughts!" "We'll last longer than we would against those titans, and we may just take a few of them with us."

[@MrJ6H]

@Galen Wrathweld - underrated comment good sir, bravo!

[@dalesheen1816]

SHES GONNA BLOW! ! *Boom!* I'M HIT!!!

[@thatoneguyinthemiddle1910]

o damn, 666 likes

[@ArkaSaurusRex218]

"That blast came from those Megathrons...those things are fully operational!"

[@ex0stasis72]

1:54 I lolled so hard when I heard "We're not here to ruin the game. We're here to ruin YOUR game." Seems like they're a fun group to hate, and every good story needs a villain.

[@roidroid]

it's confusing for me, coz in most games that sortof griefing/toxicity is typically banable. If you make other people leave - then the game company obviously doesn't want you on their server.

[@karkkosvolfe]

@GuiltyKing27 Very true

[@arlostein1000]

GuiltyKing27 dunno tried it in 2012 haven't been back

[@writershard5065]

@GuiltyKing27 Depends on the person. And I wouldn't necessarily call that a good thing. You come back because you feel like you put in so much time to this character, so you're obliged to continue to invest in them, even if it is a pain to do so. It's a sunk cost fallacy and it's not a good thing.

[@SilverCinder1]

I feel bad cause I dont necessarily stand by that statement but I've been in goonswarm for nearly 3 years.

[@user-xp8nv7qf2e]

Wow, it's amazing how this almost reads like actual military history

[@amshermansen]

+nom carver It pretty much is - Any game with ACTUAL territory that needs to be taken for resources and political power will have events like this. Maybe not quite on this scale, but it happens. This is what makes EVE so special - It isn't just quick 40v40 matches with no longterm consequences.

[@user-xp8nv7qf2e]

While I don't think that I'll ever get involved, it's a fascinating game to hear about

[@MenwithHill]

People tend to forget that conflict in the real world between nations isn't something special. Humans struggle for different things in the same way, again and again.

[@TuhljinTampergauge]

"And then Eisenhower trolled his enemies and bribed the German general to disband the opposing platoon." It really doesn't read like real history at all. Why do people always make these comparisons?

[@incognitoburrito6020]

@@TuhljinTampergauge Have some creativity, man. Most wars are just the same thing in different words, and this one is no exception. If you don't like the word trolling, try "intimidation," "demoralization," "psychological warfare," or any other term for confusing and discouraging your enemies. Obviously a commander can't suddenly stand up, declare the entire army disbanded, and tell everyone to go home, but there are plenty of analagous enough ways for a force to suddenly pull back or disappear.

[@Drefsab]

EVE is one of those games that's probably more fun to read about than it is to actually play for most people. I spent years in EVE and enjoyed my time there, but honestly the headline-grabbing events like the Fountain War are few and far between. For your average player, EVE is 99% downtime and 1% action. Mining, hauling, plexing, scanning, mission running, salvaging, ship spinning, scamming in Jita...that's what most of your time is spent in. It requires a pretty massive time investment. But, man, *nothing* comes close to the scale of conflicts you see in that game. It amazes me how much real-life money gets blown into space dust in some of those battles.

[@simelstre]

MovingTarget85 It is supposed to be very realistic, and real life takes a lot of downtime

[@Gofex1337]

Uhm, actually. There are other games with very similar concepts. One could in fact argue that EVE is fairly casual in comparison. As you only lose ships, that quite honestly are much more easily replaced than you'd think.

[@fenriders7008]

@@Gofex1337 you lose your implants too, and ~30 days of skill training if you are unfortunate enough to die in your T3C. Moving your entire stock of valuables in a freighter? You’re starting pretty much from scratch other than skills.

[@jmarth523]

People seem to get stuck in their hi sec ways. To have lasting fun in the game you have to take big risks, join null sec and WH alliances, pvp like crazy, make alts and spy on other corps

[@uzimakiking]

You're telling me redditors LOST against trolls? *IMAGINE MY SHOCK*

[@kadenater123]

redditors are big nerds

[@jamedlamed3982]

@@kadenater123 redditors cant take any amount of banter

[@kadenater123]

@@jamedlamed3982 theyre huge pussies

[@jamedlamed3982]

@@kadenater123 ikr, i remeber when all the edgy subs were still up you know, when they cared about free speach

[@jeremybosse5088]

We must take 4channers to build a bigger Corp

[@IAmNumber4000]

EVE’s potential for social experiments never ceases to amaze me

[@MassMultiplayer]

it is one

[@P3Tankman]

This both makes me want to play Eve and reminds me why I stay far, far away from it. It pushes the personal investment into the game waaay too far for me. All stuff on this level does is make me really stressed. But I guess that's why I'm basically a space trucker with a hobby for fighters in space games.

[@highjix]

+Moshe Amezcua (Tankman) I completely agree with you. I at one point I was thinking it's time to dust off the old capital and find a null space alliance to join. Then he talked about the 7 hour battle and I went "Oh yea, that's why I quit!"

[@mkooij]

+Moshe Amezcua (Tankman) exactly the same for me. I have too much important stuff in my life going on and if i start playing Eve I can say bye bye to most of those things :p

[@moonasha]

+Moshe Amezcua (Tankman) you can choose to be a space trucker in Eve too. It's up to you whether or not you want to join an alliance. You can devote as much or as little time to Eve as you want. I had plenty of fun just flying around low sec killing innocents in my Vengeance.

[@TheSpearkan]

+moonasha that's a filthy lie. You do need to devote an immense amount of time simply to get enough ISK to either progress modestly or simply just to keep playing and even then you still need a lot of RL money just to keep playing enough to get enough in-game money for one PLEX

[@TheSpearkan]

Gerd L. Plüü also a lie. In the 2-3 months (which btw is actually a long time) I played EVE I didn't get anywhere far. I only got an extra month out of sheer bloody luck and even then despite the support of a corporation that decided to boot me because of a single mistake that ended up with me losing everything I still made very very little. Saying L2P noob shouldn't need to be said for someone spending months playing. EVE isn't intimidating, it's torture condensed in an otherwise innocent looking space game with pew pew lasers!

[@paranoidude]

Nothing you do in a video game will ever be THIS cool.

[@sagewaterdragon]

+paranoidude Unless you were there. EVE is always looking for new content, man, you're welcome to join us.

[@Kiddio]

+Sage Water Dragon I want to but I feel as if I'll be far behind anyone else playing.

[@doomsdayfighter508]

+Sage Water Dragon Meh, only matters if you were someone of 'rank'. Like a fleet commander, or leader/captain/counselor of a (big) corp.  WARNING: following is a point of view of a foot soldier in a large fight: I wish i had enough time to actually play the game and become good enough to become wing commander/fleet leader of one of the minor corps and eventually even climb the ladder higher.  Since i did not, i could only participate in battles as a normal soldier. But if you have played the game, then you know the gameplay mechanics are really poor (from an interactive standpoint, i know this is the only possible way to ever have battles with thousands of players). The gameplay is only pressing a button.  The most exciting part about the game was: making new ship configurations and fleet builds, and make strategic decisions to engage in battle and during battle. But these things are only done by lets say max 0.1% of the players (of those corporations in that particular war). So yes, in the end the real value is in scheming/plotting/making new fleet builds and last but not least, politics. THAT is Eve Online. And for all those things you need a lot of time/experience. Be it playing hours a day to get experience fast (new player) or having played since the game was first released almost one and a half decades ago (ok 5+ years is sufficient too). I am not saying new players/normal 'foot' soldiers cannot enjoy the game. I loved playing the game for 4 years. It's just that I got boring of the limited game mechanics offered by the game. (given to solo players) The only reason i even played that long was to participate in a similar war (but on a much smaller scale as the one in the video). After that, i realised that i had done everything a solo player/someone with not much time, could do and uninstalled the game. At the end, most 'battles' were just gatecamping/blobbing/mindlessly listening to the commanders, it started to become a chore, doing the same thing over and over. Up to this day I still do not regret having played for all those years. Likewise, I do not regret having quit 3 years ago.

[@JohnClarkGaming]

+Farhad Sharif If you don't try you will never get there. Just get in and get it done in 6 months you will be having a blast. BTW TEST is alive and recruiting if you like an underdog. (you will be having fun before 6 months thats just how long it took me to really sit down and play it full time)

[@scottmanley]

+John Clark TEST used to be the biggest alliance in the game, not sure underdog is appropriate after you've fallen so far from grace.

[@JVIdeoclips]

side note: this war was so intense, and so many people left eve looking for a new game, that for a time our ranks on empyrion swelled with EX-goonswarm members, and with the extra hands were were able to win a war we stuck in on our game, so it effected things on whole other games in significant ways!

[@hamafi1569]

Your name is a perfect fit for your comment. :)

[@shgds]

Joint ventures

[@brainletmong6302]

Probably not Fountain War, you're thinking of Beeitnam

[@travisdickens8721]

The audiobook should be read by Morgan freeman

[@keennickolas8575]

I mothafukin' would prefer mothafukin' Samuel L. Jackson ;)

[@Ultrawup]

Actually I'd love an audiobook read by Scott himself. Sadly, the book got canceled...

[@richardchabot394]

I flew for Test in the Fountain War at the time. Those almost 3 months coming up to the loss of 6VDT were a highlight of my eve existence (I started back in 2006). It was rough trying to always be ready no matter what, but the experience and being part of a big chunk of Eve history was and still is Gold to me. Thanks for this video.

[@stuartkeithguitars4251]

Kind of cool. I JUST downloaded for the first time. Big scary world is not as scary as this one.

[@GreenFont]

I was on the TEST side of this conflict, and I have to say that Scott's coverage is balanced and certainly reflects my experience of it all.

[@mornmorn4367]

GreenFont how was the fight?

[@LunarEdge7]

Were you on that '300vsmillion' last battle, fighting to the death? :D

[@whitefox8376]

LOL

[@AnakinSkywakka]

Not a big fan of trolls so Im with Test as well.

[@deeznutz4505]

Thank you for your service.

[@royalassassin5027]

I don't really play Eve but I have a friend who has played for about 10yrs now and he is apart of Goon Swarm. I remeber when all this stuff was happening and he was explaining it all to me. It was the most epic thing in a game I have ever heard of and probably will be for a looong time to come. I'm glad you have brought it back up and told me a book is being made. Idk if my friend knows of it and both of us will gladly purchase and read it when released. :) Also great vid Scott keep up the work

[@hoodaticus]

Goonswarm is really good at creating narrative; the spawn of their home forum creates most of the memes on the entire internet.

[@11Survivor]

A lot of Eve online players seem to dislike the goons and see them as trolls. I think they're bloody legends lol

[@marksoriano8871]

@@11Survivor They are, just not the kind ones :D

[@jursamaj]

@@11Survivor That's no contradiction. They are, apparently, legendary trolls.

[@2hedz77]

Scott's production of this is just epic though. Let's appreciate that. Amazing Scott!

[@elementfayt]

I don't even play eve, and this video came on randomly. I loved every second of this story.

[@theendoftheworldhasbeenqui2485]

you know when you hear about these epic wars and battles with thousands of pounds of ships being destroyed and then you are like "man I should play EVE online" and then you realise its the 0.1% in 99.9% of honestly quite long and boring work

[@TheRezro]

+thegingergamer In fact those epic battles also are long and boring work.. they look cool only on paper.

[@doomsdayfighter508]

+thegingergamer You are pretty generous with those percentages :p.

[@highjix]

+TheRezro Forget the epic battles, I remember the tower grinds in subcaps because they where scared to bring in capital ships to do it.

[@blahblahghost]

+thegingergamer Also, the reason these battles go on for hours is because the time dilation drops the game to 4 FPS just to accommodate all the network traffic. Still cool to hear about though.

[@bobster707]

+highjix grinding in subcaps sounds like aids, i luckily have never had to do that because every alliance i have been in has used caps when structure grinding.

[@manbo1213]

I've hardly played EVE, but I love hearing stories like this. Games where players can do this, and a brilliant narrative can just naturally unfold, it's great. It reminds of those epic struggles in Planetside 2,

[@TachyonBlue]

Huh. So this explains why I logged in after 4 years to find the station I was in to be controlled by GoonSwarm.

[@ex0stasis72]

Now I'm really interested. What happened next? Did you get blown up as soon as you undocked? Did you negotiate safe passage out? Sneak out? I'm a new player when it comes to nullsec alliance gameplay.

[@TachyonBlue]

@@ex0stasis72 Basically, I got in touch with the station owners. They let me know that they wished me luck and graciously gave me intel on the current state of the area, as well as the best times to make a run for it. No promises of safe passage, of course. So, I jammed everything I could into my two Tayras and made a run for it. Got everything except my Drake out of there, using a bunch of butthole-clenching stress-filled jumps to hisec. All ended well, almost. Still have to get out there and grab my Drake, once it goes to security.

[@shooby9496]

I don't play Eve but seeing a quarter of the map taken up under the name of "Test Alliance Please Ignore" is hilarious to me.

[@adamflux2]

I delight in how History channel this is. All you need is some reenacted nerds in black and white slo-mo.

[@Boxsteam]

adam locke do you see nerds as only fat guys sitting in the corner of the room non stop playing this game? I don't play the game but I knew some actual popular and good looking guys who actually play this game as a passion, so...

[@kylebrown4978]

Scrubbing cheeto dust out of their bellybuttons.

[@a_potato]

@@kylebrown4978 uh that is awfully specific, is that what you do? lol

[@freeroamification]

If we one day fight all our war's in virtual enviroments. This battle should be remembered as the first step in that direction.

[@captaincaveman177]

cyber wars are fought today, and sadly they have very real consequences

[@julianjohnson6344]

Captain Caveman damn,really?

[@andremarshall4423]

Dont say that if thats the case we gonna have 12 year old korean kids runnin this damn country

[@agentc7020]

Captain Caveman no they aren’t or at least not the same way he thinks, he is saying that if someday governments decide to wage wars on a simulation strong enough to simulate everything

[@jeremybosse5088]

If you’re talking about battles you should take the bloodbath in terms of war yeah

[@izzys6472]

I remember the fountain war, I just started EVE Online a year ago (I think) as a scavenger and a marketer of sorts until the war started. I did not want to bother In the conflict but I was curious so I joined in on the bunch. Originally I had no side and I just sold parts and resources to other sides until I got drained so much from my small business I joined TEST. I gathered 1 carrier, 5 destroyers and 22 cruisers and went to battle! I served in some small battles here and there and built more ships but then I put all I got into the main fray. The biggest battle. It was so chaotic and destructive I lost almost all of my fleet! I pulled through and fought on but then the opposing fleet retreated and we regrouped and rearmed. I only came back with only 3 destroyers and 1 cruiser. And after the fountain war, I just went back for my old job. Scavenging old battle scenes and rebuilding my fleet, Life was good! And five years later I said goodbye to EVE and deleted my account. This is major IZZYTRON. Signing off.

[@a_potato]

uh this makes no sense, u joined two years ago, which was 2018, but this battle was like 2013 or whatever, and then u say suddenly u played for five yrs

[@izzys6472]

I did though! What I meant about a year ago was during that time. I think I joined around mid to late 2012. so that would make me 10 at the time, and I started an account on my old crusty Toshiba laptop. So I started an account and played EVE before, during, and a little bit after the fountain war. But I got a better laptop at the time and I wanted to transfer my account but because I was stupid young brain, I saw it confusing and deleted my old account. So I made a new one called IZZYTRON so long after I first played. Then I discovered Elite Dangerous on the Xbox so I switched over there. There might be so mistypings in my story but I will try my best to remember my stories better. I’ll take it down if you want! Just ask.

[@rlpn6710]

@@izzys6472 You were really playing EVE at 10? I couldn’t wrap my head around the game at age 19

[@HarryPotter-uv8yp]

I like to imagine that the massive disconnect at the battle of Z9PPH could be interpreted as a kind of subspace anomaly. Thousands of tears in space must have been made as entire fleets warped into the same cramped zone, collectively making a wormhole. The wormhole ruptured, everyone got sucked into deep space, and the battle was ended.

[@ayoutubeuser9807]

I like this idea EDIT- Sorry for responding to 1 year old Post.

[@rajdeepdas1842]

I like it toi and I am 2 years late

[@a_potato]

nice imagination Edit: also 2 yrs late

[@myalt3019]

That makes sense

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

There are no bugs in EVE, only deep space anomalies.

[@KawasakiOnly]

This war was barely few months after i started, i just arrived in nullsec as part of test allaince for the first time in my eve live. And just a few weeks after joining them, CCP announced the ressource change. And then it all started, a huge propaganda, organisation, fights, i think i saw more memes in that war than on 9gag - brilliant, funny, propaganda memes - as many that you could make a homepage out of it. Leaders has pushed us into war, money didnt matter in the beginning. They threw ships at us - go and fight for us. Usually in eve you first pay for the ship and if you lose it you get reimbursed, it was the other way around. It was an amazing war, we have fought and killed so many fleets. We have lost many fleets, we actually donated and helped at transporting, mining, building. Every single slot did count. The TEST Alliance back then appreciate every single helper, no matter how small. We got stuck in places for hours and days because we have been camped and we feared our ships would never see the homestation again. We have been in fights which wouldve been lost and suddenly another fleet showed up, like the cavallary - they wouldve been enemies but suddenly the FC calls, this fight: they are fighting with us - keep shooting. Overall this war was the most intensive game experience i ever had in my entire gaming carrier which is now 20 years long. Since then im preparing for the next war of that size. The hope for a second one of this kind is what keeps me playing eve every day.

[@jakemcalister8561]

Sinfox this is test propaganda!!!!!!!!

[@AniMageNeBy]

Goddamnit, sinfox, I was wiping at my screen for 5 minutes thinking: why can't I get that fucking hair off my screen.

[@prebenolsen1085]

Same!

[@Alice-ox7pe]

You are very eloquent sir

[@themetalwolf8210]

If you want war, create it.

[@verios44]

I was involved in this war, but as a member of Nulli Secunda. I was at Asakai, B-R, and most of the major fights in Fountain. For me it was the best time to be a null sec player.

[@SadenIsWatchin]

How many ships did you lose?

[@clickpause8732]

Test: "No one player can turn this war" SN2: "Hold my Beer"

[@robb21088]

Who's that

[@xela6349]

@@robb21088 That's Nulli Secunda, they are disbanded now sadly. Though they kinda rocked the geopolitical boat for a bit.

[@robertdewees9418]

Had a blast in Nulli

[@MassMultiplayer]

alchool help making healthy smart decison

[@killerkram1337]

I fought in the fountain war. Some good times were had back then. I no longer play eve but I keep wondering if those folks i flew with still play. Such fun nights, such epic battles, no other game is quite like eve and im happy its still going.

[@CountArtha]

I remember reading about this on Cracked years ago. Thousands of RL dollars' worth of in-game property was destroyed.

[@swish007]

it sickened me to think of the value of the stuff i lost.. i mean years of work just gone. but i just chalked it up as part of the game. that's the beauty of eve

[@ironwarrior2916]

About 300,000 dollars worth of damage altogether.

[@PhazonSouffle]

What they don't tell you is that playing Eve is really about late nights spent grinding structures. If you join one of these coalitions, make no mistake, they will treat you like a mindless worker. While (n>500000){Ctrl + LMB ; F1; n--}

[@Born2Rune]

+PhazonSouffle Much like real life really.

[@anninhilator]

+PhazonSouffle It would be cools if you could slave a ship, like a drone to a Fleet Commander and log off during a fight while the ship is still active

[@eezaak21]

+PhazonSouffle The key is not to join a mega-bloc. Find a small group that is fun to fly with....trust me it makes the game sooooo much better.

[@PhazonSouffle]

eezaak21 I know, I was in Fweddit. They just got crazy ideas about becoming a sov holding alliance and making it big. So for a while we played structure grinding online.

[@PhazonSouffle]

Dorian Stern vukotic Then what's the point in playing if you take no part in the fight? You'd just be paying £7.50 a month to let someone else play a glorified version of Homeworld.

[@Knight_Astolfo]

I quit EVE just a few months before this. I gave my character (carrier-ready) to my corp, and I never regretted that so much as when I heard about this.

[@Swordmaster757]

I'm not an eve player, but great job with your narration of this. For the most part, I understood greatly what you were talking about. Well done and great video.

[@PCardon13]

Er. Did I just read it right? The humorous and harmless scottish kerbal ship desginer was a Spec Ops shipman in one of the biggest EVE wars? O-o

[@johntitor7678]

and part of goonsquad.

[@MenwithHill]

That's like learning your goofy grandad was in Verdun.

[@PCardon13]

MenwithHill and he jumped from an airplane onto a blimp to crashland it into the German lines.

[@peppermillers8361]

sounds awesome.

[@arsarma1808]

He’s the Mr. Rogers of our generation.

[@thomascoenraadhelsdingen7114]

Damn I was never aware of all the details until I watched this vid. I fought with the CFC against Test. At the time I was In an obscure alliance called Rogue Alliance which had joined the CFC. I was mainly a covert ops scout/grunt most of the time. Thanks for the back story.

[@darkfeffy]

Lmao just like in real life. How many lowly soldiers really know what they're fighting and dying for?

[@nathanielsmith6065]

@@darkfeffy This comment is underrated af. I legit laughed out loud. So true lol

[@lavynwave]

Am getting ptsd of the great fountain war

[@Lolok725]

world war bee 2 is greater and bigger

[@jaxel_ms1990]

This felt more like a history lesson than any video I've ever watched before.

[@Jamez692]

Should've finished that last bit with " Because War... War Never Changes..."

[@XavierXonora]

I think that eve has evolved beyond being a fiction universe. It's a real, living, breathing game, where players actually have an impact on how things go down. Other MMO's have tried (And mostly failed) to replicate this, but anything null is entirely player driven. The Fountain War wasn't just a fictional event in a writers head, it was a real event unfolding in real time with decisions of 100's of real people having an influence on the outcome. One definition of fiction is "Fiction is the telling of stories which are not real." As the events actually occured, I believe it is probably best to refer to eve as a non fiction (game (With the exclusion of hisec story and Jove/Deadspace stuff written by CCP)

[@averageconsumer0]

well IMO the correct terminology for events like this would be, "Virtual Historical Event", as in this is not real life but still "real" Virtual History is the future

[@CyFiM]

It's not really exploited nearly as much as it should be, but player-driven games of all kinds are great for this sort of thing. MMOs, sandbox games, tabletop RPGs, all of them can end up with players taking unexpected actions that cascade into epic, twisting, turning adventures that end up making great stories because the games themselves are built from the ground up to be fun and facilitate the kinds of interactions that make a player's imagination go wild filling in the blanks. Wars and epidemics in MMOs, dramatic disasters and rescue missions in Kerbal Space Program, basically anything that happens in any long-running Dungeons&Dragons campaign, all of them are just caused by the game working the way it works, but our imaginations give them purpose, meaning, and make them seem real. It kind of reminds me of Twitch Plays Pokemon, actually. The same sort of thing was going on there, with a bunch of people all contributing to this epic, unpredictable story played out through the medium of this familiar, relatively simple video game. I love that.

[@Biouke]

Actually iirc Records of Lodoss War was based on a tabletop RPG campaign the staff had played.

[@Paveway-chan]

It's funny you mention it. In World of Warcraft there was once a glitch: a certain boss monster applies a disease of sorts that does damage and spreads to nearby players. Now you could not leave the instanced area with this disease, BUT if the animal companion of one of the characters in your party had it, you COULD still leave. And once you took that sick animal to a major city, well... It became a plague. And I mean that literally. Thousands of players were infected, and they just kept spreading the damn thing. And several independent groups who went to fight the boss brought their sick pets along, restarting the plagye over and over. Cities became uninhabitable because of players with the disease roaming around. It could be cleansed by certain items and magical spells and some of the players with those abilities set up ad hoc clinics to try and combat the spread of the disease. This is an event that real life doctors have used as a case study for how real life people would react in a real life pandemic!

[@arandombard1197]

@@Paveway-chan Ironically, that was the only time WoW actually felt like an mmo.

[@spacextreme1]

Damn this could even turn into a full series.

[@sagewaterdragon]

"This is NOT Goonswarm propoganda," a Goon says.

[@Loponstorm]

"History is written by the victors."

[@NonciclopediaForEver]

+Sage Water Dragon It'll be biased, of course. Mittens likes to work his spin machine hard.

[@DieselxRobot]

"Someone please buy our book"

[@NonciclopediaForEver]

Loponstorm " A meeting of the senate was now held, and the consular tribunes were empowered to make terms. A conference took place between Q. Sulpicius, the consular tribune, and Brennus, the Gaulish chieftain, and an agreement was arrived at by which 1000 lbs. of gold was fixed as the ransom of a people destined ere long to rule the world. [9] This humiliation was great enough as it was, but it was aggravated by the despicable meanness of the Gauls, who produced unjust weights, and when the tribune protested, the insolent Gaul threw his sword into the scale, with an exclamation intolerable to Roman ears, ‘Woe to the vanquished!’." This is the source that your sources refer to. It so happens that this translation, despite being widely accepted, is in fact NOT accurate, considering the differences between 1912 literary English and its contemporary version. Even if we set aside the fact that "defeated" is the most direct and intuitive translation to "victis", you are free to read that piece of text and it will be apparent to you that "defeated" is a logical choice, rather than "vanquished", which is a far more ambiguous term that also carries connotations of annihilation and death. To put it simply, "vanquished" can be misinterpreted, "defeated", hardly so: that is what dictates my choice, as well as the fact that the former is a largely disused word, while the latter is still actual. "Woe to the vanquished" is a translation made by someone more concerned with phonetic affinity and alliterations, rather than accuracy. TL;DR: The fact that a particular translation is accepted by literary sources does not mean that it is the most appropriate one.

[@Loponstorm]

NonciclopediaForEver I'm aware of the source of the term. But connotations are completely different over locations let alone time, why would you apply todays English connotations of the word to a translation of a word from so long ago? Vanquished seems to be far more appropriate for the source of the word. verb (used with object) - 1. *to conquer or subdue by superior force, as in battle.* 2. to defeat in any contest or conflict; be victorious over. 3. to overcome or overpower. That seems exactly the definition a chieftain whom knew he could demand more gold by fixing the weights and throwing his sword on it would use and intend, further demeaning and humiliating the Romans by using much more powerful a word for defeat. Nothing about the definition of the word states anything about annihilation or death, simply a powerful defeat, you're the one applying the connotation to the word (besides I'm sure many Roman forces did die in the battle for Rome), but not a simple one, one where they were always the superior force and overpowered their foe, something that such a person seems would likely say knowing they had the Romans backed into a corner where they couldn't protest. "Defeat" just doesn't seem like a powerful enough term that a chief of such character would use when proclaiming their victory and trying to show his superiority in an intimidating manner. Feels equivalent to a military leader today going "we beat you." Historically, proclamations of victory are generally filled with more meaning and emotion, then such. Defeat is by no means a wrong term, but I would agree that in that situation that we source the meaning from, that the meaning was intended to be more powerful, demeaning, and intimidating then just the simplicity of "defeat".

[@ulfgard4734]

10/10 Would listen to the audiobook as read by Scott Manley.

[@rosevfx]

Finding this 2 years late, still great story and production. Thanks, Scott.

[@skeltek7487]

Thanks for making this. I played Eve online many years ago. Its weird to see what happened afterwards. It pains me to see all the strategies being utilized which I told our alliance leaders would be great. From shieldboosting Towers over bomber squads up to covert Ops ships and much more, before any other alliance even thought of using the strategies. They thought my ideas and concepts were stupid and unapplicable. No wonder they all failed after I left the game, they were unwilling to adapt.

[@Elthenar]

Fuck Fountain, let's address the real issue here. Who has the better logo, the Goon army bee or the Test formal dino?

[@flyingdildo192]

dino

[@CommanderM117]

dino but the bee with cigar is cool

[@Mocha69A]

Goonswarm

[@avivfrai4858]

Test (but it's reddit, it was expected)

[@VainerCactus0]

Dino

[@MrJethroha]

Side Note: I think the Eve universe needs to be restarted, and the game needs to be revamped. Things have gotten stale in-game, the number of active players has been falling, and new players are more alienated than ever before; there needs to be something to revitalize the community and inject some new players into the game. I vote galactic apocalypse.

[@RealCadde]

+MrJethroha In B4 "eve is dead" claim number GOOGOL.

[@kennethwarring7681]

+MrJethroha Or unstoppable OP alien fleet destroys everything.

[@justus4justice]

+MrJethroha Why do we need a restart? If there are problems to fix, fix them, but restarting the game from scratch would be like cutting off your arm just because you had a hangnail.

[@Rodfaj90]

+justus4justice But this is not an hangnail

[@charlx8979]

+MrJethroha welll.......scifi is full of good space apocali steal one from somehwere else. i vote a waaaagggh apocalypse or the douglas adams joke that univese was literally sneezed by the great green arkleseizure and waits the hanky of ending to wipe away the universe

[@jasonmurphy6126]

RIP Sean 'Vile Rat' Smith... Never forget!

[@scottmanley]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYiwf597mbd2rZo

[@waffles9085]

No matter how many times I listen to this, it never gets any less epic to listen to. It's just so well narrated and breathtaking. It is never a less shocking reminder that all this happened in a game. All of this history. All of these strategic decisions and moments that changed the tide of wars in Eve.

[@Vevvev8]

Maybe a book should be written about the siege of M-OEE8 that happened recently and became the biggest battle in Eve history.

[@xela6349]

Not really, that was just one battle. And WWB was way too short and unspectacular, though it did have its moments.

[@EmilFr]

Heh... I used to work for CCP (CCP Valar from 2004-2011) and the live remapping system was partially my doing. Missing a single checkbox on the page that remaps the systems make all systems on a node get remapped, rather than all but the one you selected. The workflow is such that you type in the name of the system of interest, with the default being to move only that system to another node. Then there is a checkbox you need to check to move all systems on the node and then another checkbox you need to check to actually exclude the system you typed in. This made sense when I created the interface for it, as the original intention for the node remapping was to make stuck systems unstuck without killing the node, so the primary purpose was to move a single system to a new node, but as we got more comfortable in using the functionality, it started to be used more and more to clear all non-fleetbattle systems of a heavily loaded node, thus making the default options on the page the opposite of what it's most often used for. At one point there was a group working on re-implementing the remapping system, but afaik that never went anywhere. The method I implemented has the potential for race conditions or to leave address caches on very loaded nodes in an inconsistent state and all pilots in the systems being remapped get disconnected, as this really just simulates a node death. The goal of the group that was working on improving the system was to make this seamless or at least not as bad as a mandatory disconnect for anyone who was unfortunate enough to be in a system that was being remapped, but as the framework that Eve uses does in no way support that (and my method is, at best, a hack), I think that just fizzled out when CCP "trimmed the fat" in late 2011. Nb. everything I said was current as of the time I left CCP in 2011. I've not kept up with developments of the game, workflows or internal tools, but I really doubt there have been any meaningful changes in node mapping system, as it's so fragile and complicated that nobody would want to touch it :p

[@hoodaticus]

Username checks out and CCP is dead.

[@SourCyanide]

haha sounds just like any other company's software... hacky as shit!

[@DFX2KX]

@@SourCyanide Yep. I think people would be surprised and appalled at fetid stew of nightmarish undocumented patches, Prayers by underpaid IT monkeys, and duck tape that holds the back end of any MMO like this together. Add in the UX complications brought on by an old (even in 2011) but ever-changing game.... And honestly it's a miracle and testament to the people that kept and keep the game running that it's playable at *all*. As for whether it's improved? I don't work there either, never have, lack the qualifications so never will. But purely going on the behavior of the game's client? When the customer side has odd bugs where chatbox steals focus while you're trying to D-click your way through a triggle-infested nightmare? Yeah, I'mma go out on a limb and say the back end is probably a dumpster fire by now.

[@GalCon99]

'The Mitanni has a way with words...' Yeah, especially when he's drunk af and starts challenging fellow players to kill themselves in real life.

[@TacDyne]

God bless Mittens! For those not in the know, the psycho suicidal player started it.

[@Lord_Starry]

@@TacDyne Oh well, guess we can just casually suggest someone with mental health issues to kill themselves just because they started it. We're tOtAlLy nOt At FaUlT here at all WhatsoEvEr!!! :creepysmileyface:

[@karkkosvolfe]

Yeah that was a memorable moment. Especially cause I was watching it from home that year

[@Xanthopathy]

@@Lord_Starry :creepysmileyface: dumb twitchtard

[@danieljensen2626]

@@TacDyne Unless the person is a rapist/murderer there is no justifiable reason to tell someone to kill themselves, and it is especially unjustifiable to encourage thousands of other people to gang up on a person to get them to kill themselves. If you think that's okay you should stop playing video games and go get a psychological evaluation.

[@TairnKA]

Whoo, I just noticed this was almost three years ago. Thank-you, your narration brought it to life. How many "Major" battles or wars has there been similar to this, with narration (I believe 5)? Again Thank-you Scott

[@lianglonglong]

i never got into eve online.... but it seems so fun...

[@L4sket]

It is fun if you stick to it and can be a part of some bigger alliances. I'd say most people leave in the first 1-2 months.

[@qazaq1991]

liang longlong get back into it or i find you 😂😂😂 jk

[@flamingrubys11]

@@L4sket and if you have money to spend for premoum

[@L4sket]

@@flamingrubys11 It's enjoyable without premium though, it may be more tiresome but it's definitely enjoyable. Many big corporations even support you when you don't have premium, like even giving you ships specifically designed for non premium members.

[@flamingrubys11]

@@L4sket ye but you camt get bigger ships and certain skills without a omega clone which tbh sucks but i umderstand it

[@averageo2343]

I'd love for Scott to weigh in on how ridiculously fucked him and his buddies are right now.

[@scottmanley]

Well given that I personally have more ISK than the self declared Money Badgers I don't see GSF quitting Eve or running out of money any time soon. So yeah, we've lost sov, but the alliance still lives and fights.

[@averageo2343]

Scott Manley I'm just joking dude. I honestly want you to talk about it.

[@equal2236]

We did not want that sov anyway eh ? but you should realy make a video on it at some point

[@sessosaidso1058]

So are you the one funding Swordfleet? Or did you lend Mittens the cash to hire White Legion?

[@tharqal2764]

Goons owned a third of nullsec for like 5 years. Their wallet must be basically bottomless.

[@kyle_mk17]

That game is a year older than I am, I really want to play it.

[@icfr0st78]

The final battle really drawn me in to the video. Well done

[@SajuukTheGreatMaker]

Wow. The simple fact that a single game can be the staging ground for such an epic storyline, made by the players on the go, is just incredible.

[@Dbars19]

It is sad to think that there will never be another game like EVE made again. Too many companies want to play it safe and stick with FPS type games and standard mmos.

[@LochyP]

Have you heard of Dual Universe?

[@jumpiko4553]

Ewww dual universe lol ok

[@thelordz33]

Dual Universe is Eve Online except you design the ships.

[@MrCramYT]

Dars19 do you now what IS The 2b2t Minecraft Server It have the same spirit if EVE but whit Minecraft stuff (IP: 2b2t.org)

[@Tiski_jukka]

Within a few years...... Vr revolution will BEGIN!

[@RoshDroz]

Well narrated! I am not sure I would've cared if I'd read the story, but the music and visuals were good, but your enthusiasm really sold it. That was really pretty great

[@chronically_late]

Oh that video brought up a lot of old memories! I played Eve in the early days, I think I started in 2003 or 2004 maybe? Before T2 or capital ships were even introduced. I eventually joined BNC/CCCP which became BoB and was there during the most awesome campaigns of eve-online, before Goonswarm even existed! The invasion of the north/The Great Northern War(Venal, Tenal, Branch, Deklein, Fade), the invasion of the west(Cloud Ring, Outer Ring, Fountan), the south(Querious, Stain, Period Basis, Delve) and the roadtrip back to the north :) I eventually quit after large scale fights became little more than camping with captial ships, but it was the only game ever that I've played for 5+ years continuously. In case anyone from Black Nova Corp ever reads this... It was an honor to drink and fight with you. Cheers mate!

[@TescoValueMemes369]

This is like watching a military history documentary. Keep up the good work Scott o7

[@janhansen5618]

+MonkeyTardis Agreed! :) This must be the third or fourth time I watch it in half a year. EVE history is very cool :)

[@rohanlp6403]

I have no idea what he is talking about.

[@scottmanley]

+Rohan Rahman Internet Spaceships, it's serious business.

[@SezzesStuff]

I don't play Eve Online, but what he's talking about is still really easy to understand let's be honest here..

[@Cptn.Viridian]

+Scott Manley Trust me it serious bisness

[@rrteppo]

+Scott Manley I just wish I had the money back then to join in.

[@JonathanDavidsonn]

+Rohan, it was a war based from Factions on EVE Online, which is basically space ships.

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

you should make another video like this. the topic is just so interesting that i watched this twice, and i already used to play eve for a few years

[@dandan2160]

It's never occurred to me to play this game... seems like it's more interesting to hear about than to actually play.

[@maximm1381]

So essentially this was WW2 in EVE?

[@jankansi5679]

Not quite, but on a relatively similar scale.

[@lightningphoenix7155]

Maxim M, No this was WW1 in comparison, WW2 was bigger.

[@MrCramYT]

@@lightningphoenix7155 sou Halloween War Was WWII?

[@lightningphoenix7155]

@@MrCramYT I guess?

[@MrCmon113]

I don't see any similarities.

[@mikec.2360]

Very complicated. When they write the book they need to change the names off all the factions.

[@codymartinson9518]

Lol right? But maybe they could give the new names the same acronyms as the old ones.

[@UncleMerlin]

@@codymartinson9518 *CLUSTERFUCKCOALITION*

[@karkkosvolfe]

Hell no! It is history for those of us who were playing back then

[@them4309]

why?

[@karkkosvolfe]

@@them4309 Because it is our history in New Eden and it should be told as it happened.

[@AshtonSnapp]

I once tried to play EVE Online. I couldn’t figure out how to do much of anything.

[@MostUndignified]

The first thing you need to do in EVE Online: Find a way to not be alone. Join a corporation IMMEDIATELY. Any one will do, any noob-friendlyt corp will suffice. Move your shit over there, and start passing time by doing level 1-3 missions until some opportunities to get carries, or loot behind another player, or fleet up arises, and enjoy some gameplay. Second thing: Thiccccccc skin. Join the noob help channel and ask stupid questions. Just do it. Some smartasses are gonna tease you but this is all just initiation. They had to do the same thing it's just part of EVE, you gotta get mocked for your stupid questions, but someone will answer. If you don't know, ask. Ask over and over and over until you do know. After you've done this for 2 months and lost your first ever cruiser that you spent a week saving up for to carelessness, and being laughed at for not knowing how to prevent it, and then looking back in hindsight 4 months later and laughing too, THEN you've truly become a brand new EVE Online player.

[@MasterChief-sl9ro]

Because Eve mimics real life choices. As you are the master of your destiny. So it makes you have to study and think. Why it's hard to understand. You can't just toss gold at it or level up. You will be punished for it, if you tried..It's All about knowledge. And he who knows more comes out on top. And don''t forget human behavior. This game lives off emotions both good and bad.

[@Gofex1337]

They've really improved the tutorial system. I've tried on and off for the past 8 years and gotten nowhere, but these past 10 days or so, well let's just say my net worth is a bit over 2b and I'm flying my dream battleships. :D

[@hennifen8420]

It confused the shit out of me one time so I played again about 3 years later (now) and now I can’t stop

[@Sladen70]

EvE misses your videos. I see myself returning to this video every once in a while to reinforce why I love the game so much.

[@Sorenzo]

Eventually history will look back on EVE as being the first true step humanity took away from the pesky confines of real life.

[@antred11]

+Emil Sørensen *... away from the pesky confines of real life* LOL :-)

[@Cptn.Viridian]

This is big stuff. If this succeededs then this will be gaming history. This will be the first novel written about game events caused by players. Sure there may have been one or two other books like this but none by a well known author. This is big

[@lilporky8565]

Too bad it failed.

[@SangoProductions213]

...you literally contradict yourself after one sentence lol.

[@MadGameBoy]

I am almost certain there have been several Warcarft books based on player interactions made by well known authors or artists

[@OtherSpartin]

Fantastic video, Im sad it took me so long to find this among all the content you have posted scott

[@SimilakChild]

Word has it that I've been docked at Jita 4-4 for a couple years now. If I left the station my ship would be destroyed.

[@talscorner3696]

"I'm Scott Manley, fly safe!" Well, sir, these fellers did not heed your advice and got voidsquished!

[@Drrolfski]

History is written by the victors, so let them write it. Julius Caesar didn't need a kickstarter to glorify his ass, nor does the Mittani. Very well narrated btw. A Scott Manley audio book about the Fountain War would probably be ten times more successful than this kickstarter will ever be.

[@amshermansen]

+rolf ski And yet he's not the one making this book...

[@acorgiwithacrown467]

Ceaser didn't have Kickstarter instead he killed people to scare people so people wouldn't go against him.....

[@yawgmoth5662]

Did you just compare Julius Caesar, perhaps one of the greatest humans beings ever to live, responsible for changing the course of western civilization for all times, to a fucking PC gamer who plays a game that has at most a few hundred thousand players?

[@ladyofthedrgns]

I would love to buy the audiobook if you do the narration! You are an awsome story teller! Though I know personally I would suck at the game. You made the Fountain War amazing.

[@thesupertendent8973]

One day, such wars should never happen again

[@LOUDMOUTHTYRONE]

Michael Collins You have no idea what kind of games will come in the next 20 years.

[@dfasdf370]

No more brother wars

[@dimitrivalenkov6132]

The end is nigh

[@nolanwestrich2602]

No, wars are cool. We should keep having these kinds of wars. Let's just make sure to do our warring in video games, though, because you don't respawn in real life.

[@kadenater123]

No more brother wars

[@PropaneWP]

I stopped playing before 6VDT changed hands. But, I remember that while being a member of TEST, the majority of the big battles were arranged by both sides by bored faction leaders. So, I never had the impression business was all that serious. I remember being impressed by all the intricate external security and communications systems that were set up, though. I'm still kind of turned off by the high level of meta-gaming that Eve Online players have to be involved in. Stuff like hacking other players computers and DDOS'ing CCP servers in order to get an edge is just making the whole thing too dubious and inconsistent for my taste. I don't get any satisfaction from winning by using methods I would easily consider to be cheating. Eve is full of that however. Different strokes for different folks and all that, I guess.

[@PropaneWP]

Gerd L. Plüü DDOS attacks or not, I still shy away from the game. I don't think anyone would disagree if I said that Eve is *the* game for shady methods - in-game or otherwise. Even if you don't play that way yourself, you will sooner rather than later run into those who do, and they'll probably have an edge. A large part of Eve is fundamentally about exploiting those weaker than yourself. So, eh... Not for me. Playing a game where I know that there's a ton of people who would cream their pants if they could scam or cheat me in any way possible isn't my thing. Especially when Eve essentially is a game about logistics. LOGISTICS... Nope.

[@DistracticusPrime]

+PropaneWP I quit after the BoD scandal and never looked back. CCP seems to want their game to be about cheating, so let them attract those people away from the rest of us.

[@amshermansen]

+DistracticusPrime "cheating"

[@kenetickups6146]

+DistracticusPrime butthurt

[@DistracticusPrime]

+John Carver Q.E.D.

[@FoxDren]

7:59 basically 'the enemy of my enemy is my ally'

[@jamesgeorge7579]

+Ascdren "friend", not ally, that's how the saying goes

[@Hartzilla2007]

+Ascdren Mr. Spock: An Arabic proverb attributed to a prince who was betrayed and decapitated by his own subjects.

[@thecollector5887]

Eve has an amazing player driven universe. And your video was well done. I don't play anymore since it's not my kind of game, but I do admire the role playing and creativity it produces from the players

[@Brandon84J]

I started playing when Odyssey came out, and joined a corp. I was with some heavy hitters, and they brought me along to see this fight. Seeing it for yourself, and just how many people were a part of this war.... was incredible. I saw it with my own eyes

[@eldridw]

Excellent narrative of the war, it was very enjoyable. Although I think the game is terrible. The book will be awesome. Thanks for the overview. It is an icon of gaming history.

[@vaos3712]

Must ...... keep......from .... going back ..to..eve....... no...it....calls...me...... X|

[@Kurtz6603]

+Vaos Human So happy I don't have my account anymore (2005-2013). If I did, videos like this would make me go back :P

[@DistracticusPrime]

+Vaos Human Whenever I feel the old addiction again, I just remember those sessions in the middle of the night, gotta be at work in four hours, muttering to myself "omg Why am i doing this?" and this after a friend complained about losing his job and marriage because of Eve...

[@TheSpearkan]

+Vaos Human whenever I think about going back to eve I remember the times I did play it and I stop

[@draskuul]

+Vaos Human Just tell yourself..."Alarm clocking." That helps quell that urge for me. Too many late nights setting my alarm to deal with the Russians.

[@leexgx]

+Vaos Human i lost 2 years of my life to eve-online , it was fun at the start but later on i could just not play it any more i still remember when found a unmanned Dev Jove Frig ship (when i randomly picked a autopilot on test server i notice it just before autopilot jumped me so i jumped back into system and there it was it had sheild that had a red spinning line around the ship, it had the spec of a battleship but it was easily jammable) so what was a person to do then shot my minmatar rifter guns at it i got it down to 75% shields as i could not get it any lower then that after 5 minuets the dev turned up and insta popped my ship with one gun blast lol smiled at me then spawned my ship back lol

[@Ironpancakemoose]

Honestly I feel as if Ark Survival Evolved is the next EVE when refering to politics and wars. In ark we had the chinese invasions, the Cobra war, Carebears war and now just a free for all because the devs anounced new servers.

[@thelurkingpanda3605]

this sounds great lmao

[@shekelboob]

Cornerdisc5504 haha history replaying itself

[@Magpie1701]

You are like a little baby.

[@karkkosvolfe]

Our shit in New Eden is better, sorry bro

[@cocoalbu6189]

When a supercomputer runs the fountain war, and even it gets a seizure midway, you know that all hell has broken loose.

[@charliegrabham9563]

I would definitely pay money for this especially if scott manley did the audio book version.

[@AndragonLea]

THIS is why EVE is still unique in gaming as we know it today. Maybe, one day we will have a space game that is as deep, involved, and realistic as EVE. But at the moment, this is the shit.

[@mikehunt9884]

for the past few days i've been on a Eve rabbit hole, watching stuff from that time period on youtube. I used to play Eve back in those days, just hearing those names again is bringing back all kinds of memories. I haven't played the game in 5 years now, i don't know if i could play it again, Eve is one of those games that are hard to get into, but even harder to quit.

[@bamagrad99]

Great video! I hate it took me 6 years to find it. I was a grunt battleship pilot in the CFC when all this happened. Lots of good fights were had!

[@SultanOfAwesomeness]

This is incredible. This is exactly why I want to join the EVE community. It's just that... Holy shit though, my free time will disappear, and it looks insanely complicated. q__q

[@hoodaticus]

Free time in nullsec…. it's a damn good thing I'm a perfect skilled titan, super, and logi pilot or they wouldn't let me get away with how much I don't show up.

[@karkkosvolfe]

Just give in and we have cookies if you come over to the Dark Side

[@hamafi1569]

@@karkkosvolfe Nice try, Vader . :D

[@graetemans]

You dont "play" Eve online...you live it.

[@charlesstepp129]

Warning, Eve Online might be your crack. I can't seem to quit it.

[@ooramirez]

I remember my days in eve. I was in the Delve war. We hold the last system for day. Last alliance on the ground. Completely isolated. That was a hell of a experience. Remember T-IPZB. Remember Walltreipers Alliance.

[@Aralgone]

I love the way you speak, so proper and crisp.

[@Gio_Panda]

I've never heard of EVE online, and this is one of my favorite videos on the internet.