Apollo 10's Lunar Module Snoopy Is Lost In Space - Could We Bring it Home?

[@Declan-pg8cg]

My heart always goes out to Jim Lovell. Can you imagine going all the way to the moon twice, but no cigar? First time saying "I could be down there" & the second time saying "I should be down there". Still one of the finest men ever to have lived.

[@shaenj]

which is why he was given the role he was. He has NO regrets why should you?

[@suekennedy8917]

LOL! No video showing the inside of the CSM-LEM with his wondrous piloting. Duct tape is not in the Apollo 13 Press Kit. Hoax!

[@Declan-pg8cg]

@@shaenj Exactly, he's a consummate professional. If I had done half the things he has I would have no regrets whatsoever.

[@Declan-pg8cg]

@@suekennedy8917 You are joking, aren't you? Please don't tell me you're another conspiracy Fruitcake with an absolutely shite understanding of even basic physics or science in general?

[@edgarwalk5637]

Gene Cernan was the luckiest, he got to go on Apollo 17.

[@williamjamesrapp7356]

My Father worked on SNOOPY during the Apollo missions -- He was a Quality Test Engineer for Grumman during the Apollo missions

[@williamjamesrapp7356]

@C J HA HA HA YUP ! it is amazing that that technology made it into space at all.

[@christianege4989]

@@williamjamesrapp7356 Only amazing for people who don't have any clue of what this technology really was.

[@dancolley4208]

@@williamjamesrapp7356 Aha!!! NOW we have a clue to the owner of that turd which was floating around in the space craft..it was the Grumman QA guy who planted it on board while going through one of the incredibly long list of checks !!!

[@bernardcohen3245]

And my dad was the janitor who signed off on the LEM

[@jblob5764]

@Nature and Physics that is the most ridiculous statement ive heard all day

[@fieryfeather]

-Analyze Snoopy's spin What are you doing -Docking Snoopy's rotation is 67-68 rpm -Get ready to match our spin with the retro thrusters It's not possible! -No, it's necessary

[@stanleydodds9]

Come on turd... come on turd!

[@DanielSanchez-ew1js]

Cue dramatic organ music.

[@ryandickson6761]

@@DanielSanchez-ew1js DUNDUNDUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN

[@RWBHere]

DUNG, DUNG, DONE!

[@ZuluMoose97]

I love we should see if Scott would be willing to recut the video using the Stellar theme music

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

The Beagle has landed! (If we ever get Snoopy home)

[@allangibson8494]

The retrieval vehicle would have to be the Red Baron (or the Dog House).

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

@@allangibson8494 or the neighbor's killer cat.

[@NemoConsequentae]

@@allangibson8494 My vote would be on it being _Woodstock._

[@RWBHere]

If they capture it by wrapping a shroud around the module, then surely Linus would be best, with his comfort blanket!

[@allangibson8494]

@@NemoConsequentae Or a mission to put a tracking beacon on it...

[@hannesgroesslinger]

I'm sure NASA's new guidelines about naming spacecraft were predominantly motivated by fear of what Pete Conrad and his crew might come up with for Apollo 12.

[@AmusedWalrus]

What do you mean?

[@DARisse-ji1yw]

"Playboy" & "Bunny" .....

[@PrograError]

@@DARisse-ji1yw definitely sfw

[@5Andysalive]

@@AmusedWalrus Let's say they wera a much more lively group than most of the others. It's a bit of a shame the first landing was communication wise such a quiet affair. This is Apollo 12 landing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpPNaY2lZZpmgsU And Pete Conrad died (too early) in a Motorbike Accident.

[@ENCHANTMEN_]

Surely they could just veto the name?

[@theCodyReeder]

10:05 ah yes the good ol oberth effect at work. I learned about that from you ya know. Anyway in this case I think of it as some the energy gained from dropping the mass of the fuel down into the gravity well being transferred to the spacecraft.

[@Hyperlooper]

I love seeing my fave KZbinrs commenting on my other fave KZbinrs. Hope you are well, Cody.

[@JanStrojil]

Apollo 10 in the London Science museum was the first Apollo hardware that I saw with my own eyes. I still remember that feeling of awe. Go Charlie, go Snoopy!

[@JohnMorley1]

One day there might be a glass case next to it with that long lost turd in it. Then it will be more impressive.

[@owensmith7530]

I examined the Apollo 10 capsule yesterday, both on my way into and out of the Science Museum IMAX to watch Apollo 11 (sadly the "First Steps" 45 minute version). I also had a long look at the life size LM replica, and the RL-10 and J-2 engines conveniently placed next to each other (they appear to both be missing the lower parts of their engine bells). But the best exhibition at the Science Museum was the Soviet one. I have seen an LK with my own eyes! And a Lunokhod!

[@sparkplug1018]

Best exhibit I've seen is at the Kennedy space center. They have the Apollo 14 CM displayed along with a Saturn V rocket and I believe and un-flown LM. And a replica lunar rover. So awe inspiring seeing all the hardware displayed like that. Really want to travel and see the rest of them.

[@JanStrojil]

@@sparkplug1018 Yes, that is probably the best one (but don't forget Oschin Science Center in LA!). But when it comes to the wow factor, their introduction to the Atlantis exhibition is probably top; the American sure know how to do spectacle well. :)

[@sparkplug1018]

@@JanStrojil Atlantis is truly a sight to see in person. The memorial towards the rear of the hall is also one of the most moving I've ever seen. We do know how to display things for maximum effect thats for sure.

[@dwayne7356]

Are there material science questions that can be tested or verified on something that has been exposed to cosmic radiation and cold temperatures for 50 years?

[@sparkplug1018]

Absolutely. Effects of solar radiation, micro meteorites and so on. That was precisely why Apollo 12 returned hardware from Surveyor 3 to Earth. They wanted to determine the effects of being on the Lunar surface for a few years. www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/documents/NTRS/collection2/NASA_SP_284.pdf Thats the report they generated, or at least part of it. Interesting read, especially that part about the microbes that ended up in the camera.

[@RCAvhstape]

After the Challenger accident, the LDEF (Long Duration Exposure Facility) was left in orbit for a much longer time than was planned. Eventually it was retrieved by another shuttle and a lot of good data was gathered from it. Since then we've had several chances to visit Hubble Space Telescope and see how it has held up as it aged, and of course Mir and the ISS have both yielded lots of data on long term mission hardware. But Snoopy would be special, since it has been in deep space for five decades, outside of the LEO gravity well and the Earth's magnetosphere.

[@Bill_Woo]

At first I thought, well duh we have things that have been exposed to cosmic radiation and cold temperatures for 50 _million_ years. Yet knowing the effect of a 50 year slice would indeed be revealing.

[@ReneSchickbauer]

Apart from the stuff already mentioned, it would also give us a very good insight into long term effects on electronics when they are turned off in space. As we send probes ever deeper into space, hibernating (turning off) spacecraft systems becomes more common for the coast phase of those missions. Some of those missions, like "Breakthrough Starshot", with coast phases in the range of 20+ this will become very important. In theory, it could be possible to send a probe (or many, many tiny probes) to another star only powered by solar cells. The probe would turn itself off when leaving the vicinity of our sun, and only get powered up again when it reaches the vicinity of, say, Alpha Centauri. The real question is if we can build electronics, radio- and science equipments that can survive long term exposure to space without power or thermal control. Recovering the Apollo 10 LEM and other derelict vintage space hardware could help us analyze the failure modes and start implementing better designs.

[@teaser6089]

@Coldern Ice Not true since if they still work after 8 years in hibernation. You can do a system diagnostic by sending a signal from earth and send the data back. Would only take 14 years. 8 years to get to Alpha centuri(At best) 2 years to send a signal. 4 years to get an answer.

[@astrofox2409]

Noticing the "Woodstock" name for the return craft. Nice touch.

[@sparkplug1018]

So many names you could pick for it. Id either name it Woodstock or Lucy. And when it lands we can declare the Beagle has landed, credit to a comment above.

[@RWBHere]

Linus. Comfort blanket used to capture the LM.

[@reminiscingrocketeer1430]

@@RWBHere actually yes, the thermal protective blanket to aid in anchoring Snoopy and providing additional protection during reentry.

[@StarkRG]

@@sparkplug1018 Nah, Lucy would set up the final orbital capture maneuver and then would release the spacecraft right before it happened.

[@jazzfan1994]

I was thinking "The Red Baron" but this is better since you don't want to shoot it out of the sky.

[@purplealice]

I worked at Grumman Aircraft on Long Island when they were building the Lunar Modules, and occasionally I had the chance to see, and even touch, one of them during the assembly process. I am fairly certain that Snoopy was one of the ones I touched. (And I still have my green "Lunar Contact" button from when the "Eagle" landed.) So among the traces of human DNA that might be found inside Snoopy (disregarding the turd, of course), there could be traces of my DNA, which means that some microscopic part of me did make it into space.

[@BaguetteGamingOfficial]

I'm really fucking jealous right now

[@bogomir67]

@@BaguetteGamingOfficial So am I!

[@purplealice]

I wasn't wearing gloves whhen I touched the frame of one of the seats in the LEM. I just leaned in the doorway to look inside, and put out my hand for balance.

[@gregc2222]

@@purplealice Ahhhhh... Seats? In the LM? Think again.

[@BaguetteGamingOfficial]

@@gregc2222 yeah something's not quite right there lol

[@TheBonsaiZone]

This is where you need a tractor beam for recovery.

[@GetUpTheMountains]

Good to see you still playing KSP, I miss that content.

[@donaldparlettjr3295]

How interesting to get Snoopy back home to study a spacecraft in space for 50 years. NASA , this would be so interesting to see how items survive overtime.

[@WoodworkerDon]

To safely "capture" Snoopy, if hard-docking points would be difficult, I suggest something akin to the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module on the ISS. Once found and station-keeping with Snoopy, the capture craft would inflate a BEAM-like module to engulf Snoopy. Deflate, at least partially, to softly secure Snoopy within the BEAM, then tow it on home.

[@VosperCDN]

If this is done, one of the rockets sent for Snoopy better be called The Red Baron.

[@AcidDropAnimations]

OMG YES LOL

[@TheFLOW1978]

Floaters are the worst. Somethings are better left untouched. Fun video

[@thiesenf]

Ghosties are creepy too... The feeling you get when your body just produced something that could compete with the Tsar Bomba and looking down in the toilette and all you see is nothing...

[@johnnyfavorite1194]

To date, *the Lunar Module remains the only true, human crewed, piloted spacecraft ever constructed,* as it was designed solely to transport and sustain humans only while operating outside the earth’s atmosphere. (NASA’s MMU “Jetpack” wouldn’t count as it has no independent life support systems) All other crewed spacecraft were built to operate in both space and within the Earth’s atmosphere.

[@tinldw]

Nope. There are & were many space stations with own thrusters

[@Chris-Workshop]

one could argue that the stations are all meant to stay in place where they are. and the module actually went somewhere, like from the surface of the moon into an orbit. try that with the ISS ;-)

[@PrograError]

@@Chris-Workshop ask the russian ...

[@johnnyfavorite1194]

Sergey tinldw Thrusters are necessary for any artificial object expected to maintain a planetary orbit. Does a space station meet the definition of a space vehicle if it is still fully dependent on the earth’s gravity to maintain a low earth orbit while completely lacking any designed capabilities for surface/orbit escape velocity or reentry? The Lunar Module was fully capable of independently maneuvering to and from the command module as well as landing on and launching from the moon. Calling a manned or unmanned satellite a vehicle or spacecraft may be a wee bit of a stretch if it still needs earth’s gravity just to go round and round with no fixed points of departure and destination?

[@Chris-Workshop]

@@johnnyfavorite1194 well said!

[@QuantumBraced]

Imagine if Neil had said "Tranquility base here. Snoopy has landed".

[@olliea6052]

😂

[@stargazer7644]

The Beagle has landed.

[@user-mp3eq6ir5b]

QuantumBraced ☆ "Snoopy is hunched over in the backyard"

[@MrSpuzzz]

QuantumBraced I’d have loved it. Totally Americana.

[@TheScubapez376]

If Snoopy had landed, it would of been Snoopy base 😃. Hence the LiM was called Tranquility that’s why it became Tranquillity base on landing 😆

[@thomasarledge1933]

Yes Scott, we need to put the Floating Turd in the Smithsonian. Great Video...... Denton TX

[@rodgersericv]

It's probably alive.

[@spook_dad]

I wouldn't like to be the one opening it up

[@whorton4]

It has been in orbit longer than any human being. Who knows, it may have spawned some hideous space turd monster.

[@davewilliams1157]

thomas arledge , we could put it next to ground vibration sensors, disguised as animal turds, that were dropped on the Ho Chi Minh trail during the Vietnam War!

[@clearingbaffles]

thomas arledge give it to Nanci to replace the gavel

[@williamswenson5315]

A frugal approach for recovery might be to proffer a dog biscuit in LEO.

[@EDEPole]

A pizza would work better with Snoopy. Nice lateral thinking, thou.

[@williamswenson5315]

@@EDEPole Thank you. Lateral thought is an inadvertent characteristic of mine. I assume the pizza would be enticing to Snoopy's "Joe Cool" persona. As a big man on campus, he and his minions should be inseparable from that college staple of pizza.....................and beer, of course. Of course? What was I thinking?! You'd end up with frozen/ molten pizza (third degree burns to the palate) and either a beersicle or a mug full of nada. I'm sticking with the biscuit.

[@davefarless9003]

Is that Lower Earth Orbit? 🌎

[@thisnicklldo]

They were correct to change the naming procedure - by now we'd have Lemmy McLemface.

[@qzg7857]

Fun fact Stanisław Lem was apolish sci-fi writer. LEM was named kinda after him.

[@sparkplug1018]

The crews logic for the name was actually pretty solid though. They picked a name that they thought would get children interested in science and space travel.

[@tubularap]

@@sparkplug1018 -- Good point ! And The Peanuts were very popular then.

[@dsandoval9396]

What's wrong with Lemmy Mclemface!?!

[@puremaga17]

The space poop can only belong to John Young, even though he and Gene Cernan were both Naval aviator's and fighter pilot's, only a combat pilot could carry on the age old Carrier tradition of the "Phantom Shi**er" Thanks Scott!

[@brettwarren5976]

* _Aviators_ and _fighter pilots_

[@jimbodeek]

Young was in the Command Module Charlie Brown. The poop would probably belong to either Stafford or Cernan.

[@TheHacknor]

Somehow it would seem more fitting if it was ever done to put in on the moon as part of the lunar museum

[@Kevin_Street]

That's what I was thinking!

[@ColinPaddock]

That would obviate any need for a return aeroshell.

[@1FatLittleMonkey]

"That belongs in a moonseum!" "So do you!"

[@lezzman]

But then the hoaxers wouldn't get to see it since they wouldn't believe the lunar museum exists.

[@KnightRanger38]

The ascent stage of the Snoopy lunar module is the only ascent stage of the 10 flown lunar modules (Apollo 5, and 9 through 17) still in existence. There are six descent stages still in existence on the Moon (Apollo 11, 12, 14 through 17). The descent stage of Apollo 5, 9 and 13 burned up in reentry in the Earth's atmosphere while Snoopy's descent stage crashed into the moon.

[@sferrin2]

I'd rather see a SpaceX Starship bring back Hubble so we can put it in the Smithsonian.

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

sferrin2 Why not resupply and upgrade instead?

[@dougpowers]

@@johnfrancisdoe1563 Hubble is an amazing piece of hardware, but she's pretty much obsolete by now. Her sensors are old and her mirror is a small 4.5 square meter, monolithic design. James Webb will have a segmented mirror with a whopping 25 square meters of collection area.

[@blackhawks81H]

@@dougpowers And a total inability to see in the visual spectrum, meaning great for science, but not so great for the awesome beatufil photos, unfortunately.

[@blackhawks81H]

Bring back both. The sky is no longer the limit. If the US govt can piss away TRILLIONS of dollars directly into the stock market during the sillyvirus pandemic basically to almost no effect, then we can definitely give NASA a much, much, higher budget.

[@epiccollision]

ZoeQuinnIsAMurderer you’re welcome to wallow in more poverty...good luck.

[@RoyNBarlow]

I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to see the next episode of this where you actually use starship to bring it down to the launch pad now. Pretty pretty pretty please.

[@Brixxter]

Oh yes... Finally the okulele intro is back

[@sunnyjim1355]

It's ukulele.

[@danyelPitmon]

I would love to see that lander sitting in a museum like the Smithsonian a piece of earths history of the Apollo moon landing that would be so cool to see

[@dronillon2578]

Another cool history video, thank you. Please, what version of KSP are you using? List of mods would be awesome! Screenshot of CKAN in your next KSP video perhaps?

[@NZAnimeManga]

You're the only KZbinr to pronounce et cetera correctly, thank you.

[@LoricSwift]

"An Insufficient Amount of Gravitas"

[@tetsujin_144]

When Wernher Von Braun failed to demonstrate a proper appreciation for the seriousness of the situation he was in, his mentor Hermann Oberth was there to offer a gravitas assist. Von Braun later cited Oberth as a great benefit to his productivity, noting that at times it felt as though being in close proximity allowed him to accomplish far more with the same amount of effort.

[@JohnDangcilGeekWere]

Bwahaha, thank you!

[@a1001ku]

@@tetsujin_144 lol

[@daveduna1]

Best transcript I've read. Multiple turds.

[@CurtisDensmore1]

The best line: "God almighty"

[@sunnyjim1355]

"Houston, we have a problem."

[@C40V15]

"confidential"

[@skorpius752]

You notice how there's only three people up there and NONE of them crapped it out. I'm sure it was a close encounter of the turd kind.

[@Nekroleinchen]

@@skorpius752 the only explanation is that an alien took a shit into the spaceship

[@OSalviano]

Snoopy, Come Home

[@mattc3696]

This reminded me of the Star Trek film, when they find one of the Voyager probes. Thanks, Scott, as ever.

[@hakrsakr]

If Snoopy could indeed be located and tracked, a mission to bring it home would in my(probably worthless) opinion be a fantastic mission solely due to the unique challenges it presents: spacecraft spin/trajectory/condition not fully or not at all known, far enough out to demand an autonomous solution, requires a capture vehicle big enough or clever enough to do the job, requires the capture vehicle hardware to be capable of a decade+ of hibernation in interplanetary space... all valuable lessons, never mind what we'd learn from studying Snoopy itself. Catching and returning something from space that was never designed to come back, or something on a fucked trajectory due to an accident is absolutely something we'll face in the future. And I think it would be better to learn these solutions on a shitty old lunar module than in a situation where lives and/or a multimillion dollar mission is at stake.

[@vikkimcdonough6153]

7:14 - Could it potentially have spun up enough to have disassembled itself before we got to it?

[@lucchesi87]

with its relatively small length and mass it would have to spin at incredible speeds to generate enough centrifugal forces to tear it apart...

[@user-mp3eq6ir5b]

Sean McDonough ☆ Just seeing it would prove/disprove that Theory. Like one of those solar bulb spinners from the 60s.

[@proffmongo]

Let's just use the spacecraft from "You Only Live Twice" to pick up Snoopy. ~!:^ P

[@lezzman]

Now you're just being silly...you know full well that Blofeld destroyed the island launching facility before escaping!

[@user-mp3eq6ir5b]

proffmongo ☆ I think there is at least one "Buran" capable of refit. I'm sure with the Proper diplomatic exchange, something could be arranged to the satisfaction of All parties. Do want the Jet Engine version!

[@PeterTangney]

Based on the age old law of 'they who denied it supplied it' it's clear that the floater was from the command module pilot, John Young, who is sadly no longer with us.

[@Carstuff111]

Woodstock helping Snoopy find his way home.... that would be epic!

[@rogerrobot9295]

By the time we catch the LEM, perhaps we'll have a growing space tourism market. Then we can bring it back and put it in an orbiting zero-g science museum. It would be an awesome artifact to go visit. Great work Mike Loucks, and excellent presentation Scott!

[@ZanderSwart]

Hey Scotty Thanx for beaming me up again.

[@CombraStudios]

Wait were you the first comment?

[@ZanderSwart]

@@CombraStudios It is very possible. Maybe the second.

[@CombraStudios]

@@ZanderSwart But I need to know it exactly

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

@Scott Manley >>> _"But you know of course it's really something you just want to put into a museum."_ Uh, did you mean the _ascent stage,_ or the _turd?_ 😝😝😝

[@Jimfoxyboy]

Yes ;)

[@idontwantachannelimjustcom7745]

We can do a study of long term corrosion and heat cycling of the module. We can take biological samples to find out if any microbes survived the trip. We could find out if any of the lost telemetry data is still in the computer.

[@JohnMorley1]

My guess is that we won't have immunity to any new bacteria that have evolved on that turd in all these years.

[@sparkplug1018]

As far as the telemetry goes, its all still in there, what ever it had stored when it was powered down. As far as bacteria goes, I'm not sure I want to know.

[@Kevin_Street]

Today we propose Project Woodstock - a fifteen year mission that will employ new state-of-the-art capture techniques to retrieve a spacecraft from its long, lonely exile around the Sun and bring it back to Earth. Then we can finally close a chapter in the history books and conclusively determine who dealt it. We're looking at you, Tom Stafford. Soon science will provide the proof.

[@johngay8416]

News story today June 10 2019: Amateur astronomers in the UK are 98% sure they've located Snoopy!!!

[@richie1326]

Hey Scott, love the virtuoso ukulele intro... you are indeed a man of many talents!

[@homomorphic]

I did not expect this to lead into a discussion of scatology

[@MrGoesBoom]

I love watching all these old Apollo clips...is there anywhere online that you can go to binge watch the suckers?

[@reidhulshof3645]

I can’t be the only one who’s greatly entertained by the fact that things can’t stay in lunar orbit very long because the moon is too lumpy and the gravitational field isn’t consistent enough

[@HorribleHarry]

I had always assumed snoopy was complete, thank you for clearing that up for me!

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

If Snoopy spun up to enough RPMs, it may have just flown apart. That would be kind of a drag, but it will be what it will be.

[@dis4815]

This is top class, Mr. Manley! But for an actual recovery mission for something this fragile after literally tumbling around for 50 or so years in space, I think you'll need a veteran human crew and a humungous big rocket to go out to Snoopy, capture it VERY CAREFULLY, and then bring it back to Earth orbit (I don't think it'd survive re-entry, even in a protective shell). That's of course, if it's even intact now...

[@kunneman]

Would be interesting to see to whom the poop belonged! I'd put down my tax dollars for that. So many sleepless nights....

[@theophrastusbombastus8019]

Forsenic report. Top secret. Fecal matter is not human. Isotope composition do not match with Earth origin. Last meal was chili.

[@dotancohen]

More interesting would be to see what biology has grown in it since. That presumably turd did not get the "mash with anitbiotics" treatment that the other turds got, and thus has been a rich nutrient bed with different flora possibly evolving outside the Earth's SOI for fifty years!

[@akizeta]

@@dotancohen Damn, I don't want to be the guy to open that module after who knows what's been mutating in there.

[@PiezPiedPy]

As long as it doesn't end up in a museum :|

[@ComradePhoenix]

@@dotancohen we now have the worst possible variation on the classic "scientists accidentally create tiny civilization" trope.

[@jamesmihalcik1310]

I'm amazed at the information available in your videos, always learning new bits and the odd anomaly :) .. Thanks, Subscribed!!!

[@fiveoneecho]

Nobody: Elon Musk: Puts his old car in orbit. Recovers Apollo 10 floating poop.

[@5Andysalive]

Well, poop can fertilze a planet. But who want's a Tesla on Mars.

[@fiveoneecho]

@@5Andysalive The first life discovered will be a strain of bacteria from the Apollo 10 poop. Snoopy broke the Prime Directive!

[@whorton4]

What a waste . . .literally. Bill Murray would be proud.

[@whorton4]

@@5Andysalive Who knows, maybe one day after the earth is destroyed, snoopy will find its way back and crash on earth. . . That delicate excrement may restart the totality of life on earth again.

[@s.31.l50]

Cole Smith 😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

[@quantumac]

Perhaps some kind of large, semi-rigid lasso could be developed, one which could be extended around the rotating LM and then tightened quickly. Once captured, the return vehicle could use its thrusters to stabilize the rotation.

[@quantumac]

@@javaman4584 Yeah, it certainly could end up that way if KSP is any predictor. It's a tricky problem to solve, no doubt. Perhaps someone ought to set up a competition for ideas.

[@TheWeatherbuff]

Scott, you're going to be reincarnated as "Scotty", and you'll end up working on the Enterprise. This is really cool stuff!

[@allangibson8494]

The ascent engine bell would probably be the best option for docking. Its the most robust part of the spacecraft being heavy walled aluminum.

[@15Redstones]

What about the docking mechanism

[@allangibson8494]

@@15Redstones Probe & drogue into the engine throat pulling down onto the descent stage attachment points. If it burned to depletion very little fuel should remain. Questions about engine corrosion would need answers however. At a bit over 2 tonnes this should be possible.

[@jedigecko06]

Earth-crossing solar orbit? Possibly spinning? Sounds like an asteroid capture dry-run to me.

[@darrinpearce9780]

I thought I knew all there was to know about Apollo but didnt know about the errant space turd. Seriously, thanks for the video Scott

[@NoPulseForRussians]

I vote Cooper from Interstellar to dock with spinning Snoopy.

[@evanb09]

Amazing video as always Scott. Minor nitpick: the Atlas V you used in this video is not a configuration ULA offers - if you want four solid boosters, you need the 5-meter payload fairing while the one you used appears to be a 4-meter one. Anyway I hope one day maybe we can go get Snoopy!

[@scottmanley]

They also don't support putting a Delta II stage on an Atlas V - I'm sure we'd figure it out. Also I didn't put the SRB's in the correct locations.

[@fod3er]

I was wondering if it could still be pressurized

[@JohnMorley1]

No, it would have been depreasurised since leaving the astronaut's bottom.

[@fod3er]

@@JohnMorley1 lol are we talking about the same thing? i was on about the capsule

[@sparkplug1018]

@@fod3er Considering how they let it go, its doubtful that it would still be.

[@marzsit9833]

when they cut snoopy loose, the hatches on both spacecraft were closed. the reason they used the explosive bolts to separate the spacecrafts was because this was strictly a hardware test mission and they had to test the explosive bolt system in zero-g to see if it worked. grumman lunar modules were built out of thick aluminum foil over a tube frame, if snoopy's hatch were open the rapid decompression would have been visible on the video of the separation and most likely would have ripped the lem apart a bit. it probably isn't fully pressurized after all this time but it may have some pressure differential.

[@ColinPaddock]

marzsit Also, I’m pretty sure the telemetry showed it was still pressurized. After 50 years, between micrometeorite bombardment and spinning wildly from YARP, that thing probably doesn’t hold air.

[@Rose_Nebula]

Bringing snoopy back would actually be great because it would allow us to study how spacecraft, particularly those built for crew capability, are affected by extended time in solar orbit, and space in general, without servicing. This could be very helpful for interplanetary missions and such...

[@pegzounet]

A crying shame pilots didn't get to keep giving crazy names to these things. I'm actually surprised at how mild charlie brown and snoopy is.

[@SimonBuchanNz]

NASA was concerned about getting a copyright strike and having all their work on Apollo be demonetised.

[@sparkplug1018]

Why they picked the name is actually pretty tame. They wanted to name it something that would get kids interested in science and space travel.

[@stocchinet]

No thanks, nowadays we would have Jon and Daenerys

[@5Andysalive]

Pretty sure even 10 had a certain restraints on their naming. This program used billions of taxpayers money and Nasa was very aware of that.

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

I understand that's where the tradition of mission patches comes from. Grissom named Gemini III "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" because he was a little butthurt over Liberty Bell 7's fate. NASA put the kibosh on that, and said "Here, play with these crayons instead."

[@ReneSchickbauer]

I would really love to see a video dedicated to the AGS and the DEDA terminal. You know, going into much more detail, showing how the system worked, pictures of the hardware, how it was used etc.

[@DLR_Oli]

A little disappointed you didn't build a Starship and brought it down to the KSC for... further analysis! haha

[@ПолорЄлеон]

It may be part two of a new "Return Snoopy" micro-series?

[@dannycacciato1234]

ha, i was thinking that should be starships official test flight or tsting refueling

[@RawbLV]

Another channel that I can't watch while eating. Thanks, Scott!

[@scottmanley]

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[@jonathaniszorro]

0:13 someone's thinking about KSP...

[@NoNameAtAll2]

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[@CountArtha]

Eugene -Kerman- Cernan

[@josephjacobs5219]

You're right about the Lunar Module being thin....I remember years ago one of the astronauts said he had to pay attention, if he moved his foot the wrong way,...He could easily put a hole in the floor.....Also, if you noticed, when Apollo 11 is docking...The medal really looks wrinkled up.....Very light weight......The night Apollo11 landed...We were just kids but we ran outside into the night and looked up at a full moon.....I'll never forget my brother saying...Human beings are walking (right now) on the moon.....We were amazed.

[@miguelrivas4649]

Does anyone know if the spaceship (the one containing the poop) was pressurized and if it was for how long would it have maintained that? I may ask my genetic forensics teacher if it would be possible to recover DNA from that if I have enough info to make a good question.

[@SomeDudeInBaltimore]

All spacecraft leak a tiny bit. Most likely no atmo left inside.

[@KohuGaly]

The turd is almost certainly got vacuum-dried in couple of years after the start. The DNA should be intact.

[@tybofborg]

@@KohuGaly That is, unless interplanetary space is flooded with ionizing radiation that will absolutely break down squishy DNA molecules, presenting a major challenge to manned interplanetary travel. Which it is.

[@KohuGaly]

@@tybofborg Damage to the DNA that is susficient to kill a human is still orders of magnitudes lower than damage that would render DNA unrecognizable.

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

Thanks a whole lot. This has actually been an especially irritating day, watching videos and reading online articles. (Stuff about environmental issues, and people's issues about them. Don't need to get into it.) It was nice to cap it all with this. Who'd have thought a video about Apollo mission hardware could be so hilarious? Really topped yourself, Scott.

[@Robert-xp4ii]

(At the museum) Kid: "Daddy, what's that?" Dad: "It's a turd that was inside Snoopy." Kid: 😮

[@johnmccnj]

"By the time we get to it, it's highly likely that it's spinning on it's own."

[@morskojvolk]

"Listen, it's just a simple thing to do..." bloody Hell.🤨

[@DroneDocs]

I was rrrealy hoping you were going to luanch a Starship and bring it home lol Awesome video as always sir!

[@MechE_Emma]

Awesome video, what navball mod were you using in your KSP instance?

[@Gazpachian]

The navball reskin is part of Principia, the skins may be available as standalones for use with Texture Replacer somewhere but I'm not sure.

[@Technichian462]

LMAO... Scott Manly... you just made my day. First, I never heard of this mission. Second, Mr Hanky in space! LMFAO... when will Southpark make an episode of this! I was laughing so hard, reading the NASA notes onscreen I began to tear up! I havnt had such a good laugh in a long time. Really made me feel good. I had something of a side note concerning this. Did you ever watch the TV show “Salvage One” (im pretty sure that was the name. Iirc it was Buddy Epson as an engineer that invents a new rocket design (basically the design used in the recent tv series “The Expanse” massive amounts of thrust with little fuel usage. He takes his little space craft to the moon and salvages what was left there. Granted, I was just a kid, but I loved that show.

[@ghost307]

Andy Griffith.

[@prepperpov5852]

Sure I’ll bring it home just gimme a minute... yeesh

[@NoPulseForRussians]

Love your AR vids

[@UncleRice00]

You probably need some kind of net system that can survive tearing. Maybe layers of nets. The first net tear on contact, but slows down the spinning without damage, second net stops the spinning with only some damage, third net secures Snoopy for the return trip.

[@kaiserredgamer8943]

12:51 Cape Canaveral staff be like: Staff 1: See that "comet"? Staff 2: Yea Staff 1: That's Snoopy! It's back!!! Cernan: *SNOOPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* OMG I missed uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love u more than my wife!

[@VikOlliver]

There's a de-spin technique that uses weights on extending tethers. Wait for the momentum to transfer to the weights, then cut them loose. It might be possible to use a variant with a "sticky" filament on one end. This gets wrapped on to the spinning target on approach. When fully wrapped and secure, the package deploys momentum weights as before. It's neat because it automatically despins along the axis of rotation. It would be nice to do it symmetrically, but hey.

[@SnowTiger45]

Anything to do with Space Travel is "over my head" !

[@Mdelbeck1]

You figured this out over the weekend huh? It took me all last weekend to find my reading glasses!

[@spacetimelapses8244]

The rotation of the lunar module can easily be fixed: simply figure out how to time warp in real-life and it should not spin any more ...

[@b.c.102]

Q: its simple, change the gravitational constant of the universe!

[@theblackswan2373]

That would be an expensive salvage operation. But what we could learn about the long term effects of interplanetary space on various materials would be well worth it. I t would also look great in a museum.

[@martythemartian99]

HEY NASA! Nothing wrong with fun names for space ships. Don't be so full of yourselves. Marty has spoken!

[@lawrencemiller3829]

NASA called the Shuttle the Enterprise from Star Trek, but only after being directed by then president Gerald Ford (h/t Wikipedia)

[@tetsujin_144]

"Houston, Tranquility base: Landy McLanderFace has Landed."

[@martythemartian99]

@@tetsujin_144 HA! (lmfao)

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

@@tetsujin_144 Hasn't there been a Probey McProbeFace already?

[@K-Effect]

It does need to be put into museum

[@MrGoesBoom]

I think it's a shame that they decided that the people who built, worked on, and ultimately flew the ships were forced to just pick boring 'important' names...naming them Snoopy and Charlie Brown was fun and interesting I think.

[@randomnickify]

..."tranquility base here, Snoopy has landed"... brilliant way to enter history books ;)

[@MrGoesBoom]

@@randomnickify Why not? Why should Eagle ( a bland generic name ) be considered more important, majestic, whatever than Snoopy?

[@MrGoesBoom]

@Charles Yuditsky Ok, and why is that bad? Unless you have a dirty mind in which case that's on you.

[@jimbodeek]

@@randomnickify Or how about this: "Snoopy's in the yard."

[@cjgreen3836]

Great stuff Scott. I really love your work, it has grown on me and I really look forward to your posts. Has Elon been in touch yet about that job offer?

[@scottmanley]

They can’t match my current salary.

[@markglinskie6690]

I really enjoyed this video, but I don't see a real reason to bring Snoopy back home. It might even be better to leave it in orbit as far as Space Heritage like the Apollo landing sites. That said, if the docking collar is some thing the proposed retriever can't get a hold of, then the accent stage engine nozzle should work. Should be in the center of gravity and sturdy. What do you think?

[@mastershooter64]

Lunar gravity field is rough by that do you mean that there are some areas where gravity waz higher and some areas where gravity was low?

[@peppeddu]

With the human waste left in the module and the sun baking it for 50 years I wouldn't be surprised if you find a new life form developing inside.

[@stargazer7644]

Spacecraft don't generally bake in space. They have to be heated to stay warm inside. There's a lot more empty space at -270 deg C surrounding a spacecraft than there is hot sun shining on one side of it. That's why Apollo 13 froze on the way back from the Moon when they had to turn off the heaters.

[@devinfaux6987]

For a capture mechanism... how about a net of some kind? Big enough to wrap around the whole LEM, strong enough to entangle it regardless of spin... maybe have just the net match its spin, then gradually slow it down after entangling? Wouldn't want to break anything off by trying to slow its spin too suddenly.

[@labankohaest]

Why bother to have a capture mechanism at all if the purpose initially is to bring Snoopy into a high Earth orbit? There are ideas to use space probes as gravity tractors to deflect asteroids weighing a lot, lot more than Snoopys 5 Tonnes. The probe could very gently, using an ione-engine drag Snoopy back home without even touch it.

[@geoffreylee5199]

LEMs have a lot of aluminium in the structure.

[@NoMoreUsersAvailible]

What are your thoughts on the probability that WT1190F, which crashed into Earth in 2015 was actually Snoopy as many theorize?

[@davidanderson4091]

Scott "Rich Purnell" Manley "I've done the math... it checks out"

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

Flight, be advised. Scott Manley is a steely-eyed missile man!

[@WaterlooExpat]

If anyone wants to examine the remains of a lunar module ascent stage, it would be easier, less expensive and faster to locate those which crashed onto the moon. A robotic rover could be landed near what remains of the vehicle and an inspection conducted. It would be interesting to see what remains of the module and its contents. My assumption is that a module has been hit repeatedly by small meteors and might look likes its been hit by a shotgun.

[@shonny61]

If Snoops shed parts from yorping to structural failure it might be a skosh harder to find.

[@sparkplug1018]

Unless its either started rotating rapidly, or been hit by something in theory it should be intact still. But if it has come apart I doubt there would be much left to find, things like the ascent engine and computers maybe.

[@abelincoln95]

Nice!! Love the new intro!! And the content, as usual....