T-Mac Preview - throwing shots at Vince Carter

[@executioncritic4623]

This was kinda like what happened to Westbrook and Durant. Difference is VC was hurt but ain't bitter. VC and Tmac could've won a championship with the Raptors together, if it ain't for the issues. Tmac got jealous for VC having all the spotlight that's why he left and VC was mad at Toronto for treating him like shit.

[@Kprodigy1]

What the hell are you talkin about???? Iverson and Kobe were drafted in 1996, Tracy Mcgrady was drafted in 1997 & Vince Carter was drafted in 1998.

[@ExistentHope]

T Mac stays Raptors probably make the 2001 Finals

[@formeyousee]

What did Vince expect Tmac to do? Stay there and play leftover minutes while all the while a two time scoring championship and 32 ppg average was inside him? We would never know how good Tmac was had he stayed in Vince's shadow.

[@Kakod4life]

I wish tmac stayed with the raptors could have been great but he chose a different path

[@jriead]

i would take 2001 vince and t-mac over 2011 lebron and wade any day

[@RustyPandaVids]

@TruonGuhh his condition? does he have something wrong with him?

[@bosnian_og]

I know his moves haha 😂 T-Mac the man. I love VC though

[@jriead]

man, having lived in toronto most my life, watching this is painful. if only t-mac woulda stayed...

[@RustyPandaVids]

@TruonGuhh i wasnt questioning it i literally didnt know lol but thanks

[@henrock973domrep]

@henrock973domrep on wikipedia they have it tmac 22nd all time and vince 42nd all time as of 2010 do you kno what "player efficiency rating" means?

[@182isTommy]

T-Mac was so professional, miss the guy. He will be a first ballad hall of famer.

[@KrazieSevin]

nigga said ballad

[@MRBLUEMAN41]

Ovais A yoooo I'm weaaak lmaooo

[@kacidel5]

@henrock973domrep Where did u find this info?

[@Thrielyl44]

T-mac had the better over all game. Not to mention Two scoring titles back to back. He just got plagued with injury like so many other potentially great players. If they could have spent a majority of their career's together we would be thinking differently about Toronto these days.

[@kacidel5]

Problems With PER: "PER rewards inefficient shooting".To quote Dave Berri, the author of The Wages of Wins: the more he shoots the higher his value in PERs. So a player can be an inefficient scorer and simply inflate his value by taking a large number of shots."

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep...heres another neat fact for ya...in 2007 Vince Carter and J-Kidd became the first teammates to have triple doubles in the same game since Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen in 1989...with Vince racking up 46 points 16 rebounds 10 assists & 3 blocks lol as Mark Jackson would say--that is an absolute joke. lol

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 last season tmac was ranked 135th vince carter 137th in player efficiency rating from espn if you need the link just let me know because i dont think you know much about the game

[@superstarballer17]

smart man

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep heres another neat fact for ya...in his final **prime** year of 06-07...Vince Carter scored 13,000 points career points in 543 games--which is 3rd fastest in NBA history--Shaq was #1 in terms of efficiency to 13,000- Im sure T-Mac was not # 2 lol

[@thuurmans]

T Mac is right about his playing time. He never got a fair chance in Toronto.

[@happyjojo]

If Mcgrady stayed in toronto he would have won atleast one NBA title with Vince.

[@icesco415]

@getum7 vince was better than t-mac when they were on the same team. once t-mac left he became better than vince. why you think kobe and t-mac were arguably the best in the league for couple years with vince not being in discussion?

[@icesco415]

Blueblur22 2000-2001 agree. 2001-2002 agree, 2002-2003 thats when it was kobe and t-mac debate. so ill give it to t-mac. 2003-2004 ill give it to t-mac for another scoring crown debate with kobe still. 2004-2005 ill give it to t-mac best year in terms of scoring with rockets. debate still 2005-2006 t-mac played better when he stepped on the court, but he only played half a season. so season wise ill give it to vince 2006-2007 ill give it to tmac. 2007-2008 t-mac's last solid year to average over 20pts a game. might be close but maybe slight edge to t-mac. 2008-2009 and later i give it to vince..

[@sauce556]

gonna have to disagree on 2001 & 2002. I agree on 2002-04 being all about Tmac and Kobe. Once Vince went to NJ in 04-05 I gotta give Vince 05-07 he returned to being a beast but then again it is debatable so I dont blame you for picking Tmac in Houston. 08 onwards is obviously Vince.

[@pianomanlee1763]

he said she said

[@ishmaelm1932]

tmac was looking to make his name brand. if he would've stayed maybe he would've been bigger than kobe today. bad decisions leave to bad paths

[@2pacinseattle]

You don't have to be blood related in order to be considered cousins. T-Mac and Vince are 3rd cousins.

[@yahstino]

@happyjojo nah he would always have been second to carter so his scoring wouldn't be as crazy as it was in orlando and houston. he just wouldnt've been the same player.

[@TheRealHipHopHeads]

coulda been the next Jordan n Pippen...they coulda went the Finals Vs Lakers in 2001

[@803Bond]

@happyjojo if Mcgrady stayed in orlando, he would have won atleast an NBA title with Dwight Howard

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 if is not true check the minutes he was gettin and for a starter he wasnt finishing the all star game in the last 3 min of game true fact and 2nd coaches wouldnt have picked vince cuz he wasnt deservin from the season he played 50 games to the ones he wasnt makin playoffs he should of been a 3 or 4 time all star but of his fame and his dunks ppl like you would vote him in

[@ishmaelm1932]

I feel like history is repeating itself. KD LEAVING WEDTBROOK

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep lol are you from toronto? lol your funny lol

[@ScavengerJewsPRO]

@803Bond how could he, when he left Howard was only 19 and raw, they couldn't see the outcome of the future.

[@sauce556]

@Mass2590 VC was in search of a greater team while T-Mac was in search of a greater spotlight on himself...VC went to a better team in New Jersey (despite being out of a playoff spot and Kidd close to demanding a trade) and was in the playoffs for 3/5 years (2005-1rst round elimination, 2006-2nd round elimination, 2007-2nd round elimination)...while T-Mac ventured into Orlando and Houston and did not win anything during the playoffs...regular season-scoring title, 13 in 35 secs, winning streak.

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 thats great but it doesnt matter if you come to the league avergin 20 or more fg attempts what you think goin happen you goin make more points but tmac was younger than him and it wasnt by lot more games maybe 40 games the difference to reach 13000 the fastest but the youngest to do it is kobe lebron and tmac and vince wasnt #4 lol

[@teamsii]

@SirGarrulous they are second cousins. look it up

[@antoniomissouri1318]

This makes track look like a bihhhh

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep Looks like Vince is yet again going to have a better and more productive season than Tracy LOL Not only is Vince joining the defending champion Dallas Mavericks but he is goign to be their STARTING shooting guard lol Hows Tracy doing in Atlanta?

[@dylonmcqueen9778]

"Yo in every picture i see Tracy and Vince in". They look just a like if u assume that they are not cousins than good luck with that

[@bigtone7078]

dylon mcqueen lo. their second cousins

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep great story, bro.

[@Raptorel]

@monstaray Roids?

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 mcgrady jus signed wit the hawks im still waitin why no one has signed vince also true fact lmao

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 take the wins/stats from 2001-2009 cuz thats when they were considered allstars regular season tmac with orl-houston tmac won 397 games vince carter raps-nets vc won 346 games now playoffs tmac won 13 games vc won 18 games vc scored 14212 tmac scored 15167 games played tmac 592 games played vince carter 645 so avereges tmac 25 ppg vc 22 ppg thats sad tmac played 53 less games than carter and scored 1000 more points so do your homework!

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 another true fact tmac is ranked higher than vince carter in player efficiency rating for career tmac ranked 25th vince is ranked 49th all time that tells you alot right there do your homework

[@kacidel5]

@henrock973domrep U can talk about the stats all day, and so called "efficiency rating" that the ESPN haters came up with What VC did with the teams he had was better than T Mac did - VC would not let his team have a losing likeT Mac and the Magics did

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep actually henrock...you saying that if all stars starting 5 wasnt a vote, then vince wouldnt have made half the all star games is ACtually what we call AN OPINION lol smh...

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep and let me guess thats supposed to make t-mac a better player than vince right lol...i still kinda question t-macs iq at this point--moving to the hawks was possibly the worst choice he could have made

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep damn your pissed eh LOL

[@vaudou_]

@happyjojo there is no way that toronto was going to even go to the finals much less win. even if they got there la and san antonio were to good.

[@modalize]

organization omg so stupid to not keep them , like wtf they didnt even try

[@KardiFan2000]

Mike Wazowski No he didn't want to stay...how do you know the Raptors didn't even try?

[@Peaceseeker1081]

It wasn't Toronto's fault Tmac left he was a free agent & chose to leave. T-Mac left Toronto it seems in part b/c of his role & he didn't like Toronto because it was a cold-weather city and he's from Orlando area. There's nothing the Toronto brass could do...if T-Mac doesn't want to be there then he just doesn't want to be there and you have to accept it and move on.

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 whos mavericks shootin guard?..exactly hawks shootin guard joe johsnon someone whos been takin vinces place in all nba team remember tracy got surgery done that only 2 players still playd well thats json kidd and amare stoudimire at the end tmac accomplished more as a player led the leauge in scorin 2x put up 62 the last guard to do since mj got honored for his game 7x in all nba team was a mvp player and vince never did any of those things and u know all this lmao

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 the nba, slam magazine, and john hillinger the guy who came up with the player efficiency rating concept have mcgrady ranked higher as a player than vince carter you know tmac avg 32 ppg ryte avg 6.5 assist ryte avg 7.9 rebounds ryte all career highs vince 27.6 ppg 5 assist 6 rebounds all career highs i think your blind from one eye to not have seen all this lmao

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep thats great lol pointless rankings...i could care less how they are ranked at this point in their careers by slam magazine lol..by the way Vince jus signed with the Dallas Mavericks lol...things are looking brighter for Vince with the Mavs than Tracy with Atlanta lol...AGAIN

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 this is all great stuff vince did but thats why there is top 20 players top 15 players top 10 players top 5 players and vince wasnt in top 10 and tracy mcgrady was vince was never arguebly the best player but tmac was...tmac all around game was better at scorin rebounds assist steals blocks the only thing vince carter has thats better is freethrows and 3s they both could shoot em so i say tie there and mid range tmac is better so complete game tmac was better

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 lmao it looks like you saw the video lol tmac is better ryte finally your gettin it

[@henrock973domrep]

vc was great dont get me wrong but there were to many better players in his position sg/sf he had to many ppl better kobe mcgrady lebron iverson wade carmelo pierce so it wasnt his fault these players were better vince is better than redd roy genobli arenas guys like that but not the top guys i mentioned 1st no way your the only person that i ever heard to say all nba team is bullshit lmao if all stars startin 5 wasnt a vote vince wouldnt have made half the all star games now thats true fact

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 slam magazine ranks the top 500 players of all time issue feb 2011 vince carter ranked 99. tracy mcgrady ranked 97. so what you have to say now they made a mistake like the all nba team or that slam magazine is bullshit to lmao im from newark new jersey i still know tracy was better than vince lol

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep false stats and bad clarification lol

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 ooo u was jus playin around when u said vince carter was better than tmac...ooo ok it was a joke....hahahaha funny...lmao

[@sauce556]

@henrock973domrep T-Mac never won anything in the East OR West lol wasnt his team in LAST PLACE in the standings in orlando Lmao

[@kwezzy24]

vince carter looks weird with hair

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 wasnt vince team last in the league! lmao couldnt even make the playoffs for 3 years straight lmao

[@Zangetsu1435]

@monstaray Maybe he just wanted to be bald and shaved his head?? LOL

[@DingisMaximus]

toronto should have got iverson over vince, then you'd have iverson and t-mac on the same team...imagine if they got kobe the next year after too, that would be intense. that would be like 10 championships right there

[@realtalkh3514]

DingisMaximus nigga how they get ai if he was the number one pick

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 yes they are the stats from 2001-2009 when they were all stars meanin leading there teams 2001-2009 i repeat 2001-2009 so i hope you know simple math and add the wins from raps 2001-2004 nets 2005-2009 seasons orlando 2001-2004 houston 2005-2009 season then add games played and the total points for each season through 2001-2009 and was so true a blind man can see that mac was a top 5 mvp player and vince was never that player true facts lol

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 this is why its funny you think bcuz he got the 2nd round it means anythin lol it means you still lost didnt win anythin and the east is weaker than the west any team from the west would crush 7 of the 8 teams in the east the west you need 50 or more games won to barely make it in the east you could have 40 games and make it easily

[@henrock973domrep]

@sauce556 tmac averges more rebounds assist steals blocks than carter so it wasnt no need to put that up so 1. 2. and 3. tmac is 1000 times superior and 4. tmac has game winners/clutch shots he has dunked on plenty of players so 4. is pointless at the end vince carter was never top 10 in mvp so superior tmac hands down

[@jflip31]

Mcgrady was still better

[@Khmerballer]

@silent1assassinG2 they're millionaires and look at you .

[@SharpWanker]

@happyjojo lying to yourself

[@henrock973domrep]

@kacidel5 fact is he couldnt make the playoffs for 3 years as the leader of his raptor team 2002-2004 tmac team was garbage and still made it for 3 years 2001-2003 so i belive vc made em lose alot more than tmac did tmac has won 50 plus games 3 times vince carter came close with 49 games 1 time all nba team its been around forever and tmac was honored 7x 2x 1st team vince carter last all nba team 2001 tmac last all nba team 2008