T̸O̷R̴P̴E̵D̸O B̷O̸M̶B̷I̷N̷G 1̴0̸1 (Nebulous Fleet Command Tutorial)

[@MrUnimport]

Interesting build. I'd never have thought of using BSSJs on every torp, they're pricey. But I'm sure all those stacked BSSJs do a real number on the enemy PD.

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

oh yes, I like to use them so i can max out burn duration without compromising PK, but yes they're not exactly economical.

[@danebelling9526]

​@d0d0birdiexd78 this is a cool video. Congrats on the 100 subs btw, I just subbed and realized it moved from 99 to 100!

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

@@danebelling9526oh thank you very much! I’ll try to live up to your expectations

[@Sir_Loin_Of_Beef]

It's an interesting idea but you can get a similar effect for cheap with pushing 3g on corkscrew and using a smaller warhead

[@BartJBols]

Personally id use faster torpedos with a cheaper cost as dedicated BSSJs, then fire them as part of a volley the last or first depending on what the range is. This saves costs and makes it so you have more flexibility.

[@z0ck3r]

this is the absolout greatest style of tutorial content simultaniously entertaining, informative, funny and immersive

[@jonny-b4954]

I swear man, there's just too many great, deep games out there that I just don't have the time to dedicate to them all hahah.

[@thirstysailor579]

Damn good stuff, very informative. Didn’t even know you could change the size of fuel tanks and warheads on the missiles.

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

I’m glad you found the video informative! I recommend checking out other specific tutorials on things like missiles, there’s no way I could ever hope to cover all the mechanics of this game myself

[@legostar00]

Both the best and worst idea you've ever had while daydreaming in class.

[@henryhamilton4087]

Torps need at least 2Gs for Terminals to be effective. 1.7G maneuver + Corkscrew doesn't do much in my experience. Although maybe with the BSSJ it's enough, i never use BSSJ with torps and prefer to just use Blankets.

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

fair enough, that might even be a more economical approach too since BSSJ is 10 points a pop. The reason I like to max out burn duration is for longer range strikes, but that's definitely a viable alternative.

[@henryhamilton4087]

@@d0d0birdiexd78 i usually do 5km range also, but with smaller warhead and 2.4-2.6 G maneuverability. Then make a second variant that's identical but with Decoy launcher, and mix both with the salvo planner

[@Somewhat_Unknown]

Damn this video rocks. Love the in-universe tutorial!

[@aceofspadesguy4913]

I made a voxhaul fleet dedicated to long range cruise missile strikes, mostly size 2 and size2 hybrids with a handful of size 3 hybrids with KPs that will absolutely gut a ship when used right, still working out kinks, but it’s neat seeing a complete opposite design philosophy.

[@illRun4Clownident]

Watching Alliance Navy training films as an OSPN operative :)

[@luke4010]

I like the way you make the video like a military training course!

[@Tubylec7028]

very epic tutorial shame you dont do more of these :c

[@feather_lilly]

Cheers, really helpful. Just got into the game and I love it

[@takiproducktions]

please make more of these! I really like the way you present everything in the video

[@predakiller2]

Really really good guide, and love the subtle way it’s told as if you are a part of the world. Will subscribe to you and hope you make more content of this quality

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

Thematically correct tutorial it's amazing, frankly Well done and thank you!

[@goldengoose9941]

Kaboom? Yes, Rico Kaboom. (Essentially how I do torpedo warfare)

[@williemedicog2163]

The fundamentals of the video are solid and are even applicable to OSPs Torpedo armed Ocellos. However I’m not sure about the torpedos myself. 3K or 2.5K with high Gs punch thru modern PD nets better than the stacked BSSJ.

[@Xyvansuba]

how would you switch to all burn duration but still doing the weaving movement... in my test they dont weave a lot with its horrible AGI, and get shot down by 20s even under jamming, i have to make them at least 3.5G turn rate to work

[@MunitionsDudTester]

Great tutorial, I'll have to check if you have more. I've been trying this in the simulators and it seems the enemy does not care about my jamming torpedos and just eliminates all of them with their PD

[@ltstaffel5323]

depends a lot what kind of PD you're using and what angles you're firing from

[@henryhamilton4087]

Welp uhhh Apparently I saw this vid and decided to implement it as OSP and then i invented a new technique called Container Bombing

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

O h

[@henryhamilton4087]

Well i even now made a montage on Container bombing 😗😗

[@khoipham8303]

Question: Is it possible or optimal to use capital ships as torpedo bombers, ie. Axford, or Solomon? If it is possible, are the tactics similar or different?

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

I've heard of people using torpedo axfords, solomons not so much, they're really badly suited for them. Ocellos are probably the best capital ship to use torpedoes with. Axfords are especially useful when given a torpedo "backpack" on the rear mount, and using 450s and/or beams on the other two primary mounts.

[@valeon7303]

Due to the high hull cost of the Solomon and the low missile capacity of the axford, they are poorly suited for torpedos. However, I have seen a torpedo battleship *once* which worked well... although not as well as a well played CL group could Really, the best alternative is a missile beam axford. With the c4 mounts full of Size 3 hybrids and the c5 with a beam turret, you can use the hybrids to quickly disable a ship and use the beam to finish off targets when you run out of missiles.

[@MBunn-uf1we]

@@d0d0birdiexd78 The torpedo Solomon is a scary meme ship that at best will kill atleast 2 BBs if played correctly but it's a pretty empty hull.

[@logan36511]

It may be risky (it most certainly is) but I really like using lineships, I've never really tried it with ambush tactics, but with the amount of torps you can throw at the enemy, you can breach even the toughest PD nets.

[@henryhamilton4087]

Ocellos are pretty commonly used as torpedo bombers If you are truly mad, you can also torpedo bomb with a Bulk Liner or....even a container liner.

[@elliottprehn6342]

Vietcong rpg tactics for ships goes hard

[@gunnerguy010]

what if the enemy has either railgun point defence, or are using the sarissa anti missile guns? what then?

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

@@gunnerguy010 Idk what you mean by railgun PD, there aren’t any railguns that fill a PD role on either faction. For Sarissas, use your shipboard jammers to jam the enemy, the jammers also help scramble FCRs on point defence turrets like the Defender or Sarissa. The torpedo design I showcase also use inbuilt self screening jammers to scramble the enemy PD radars, including the FCR’s of Sarissas. Lastly, using the corkscrew terminal maneuver makes Sarissas vastly less effective, since they can no longer accurately predict where your torpedo will be when they fire.

[@gunnerguy010]

@@d0d0birdiexd78 ok, what about auroras? since the torpedos are a helluva lot slower than more specialized hybrids, whats stopping them from being halting in thier tracks by a few lasers? (by "railgun PDs" i meant grazers)

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

@@gunnerguy010 Ahhhh i understand. Unless you bring a lot of Auroras, the thick hulls of the torpedoes should be able to shrug off the aurora fire, even when set to battleshort. I have had salvos of torpedoes halted in their tracks by players who bring a LOT of auroras, but I’m talking like literally 8-10 of them and by the end they had melted all their barrels. Grazers are actually a lot easier, since they can’t down a torpedo in a single shot and then need time to recharge. In terms of not being stonewalled by Auroras, again jammers help negate their FCR locks. Also, try playing around with torpedo range/maneuver tradeoff, maybe you’d prefer shorter ranged torpedoes but with higher speed and greater maneuverability. Hope that helps!

[@gunnerguy010]

@@d0d0birdiexd78 it doesn't, because I feel like torpedoes don't do anywhere near as much damage as they advertise. They feel flimsy, and bounce off of anything but the softest of targets, and even then they don't do much

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

@@gunnerguy010 Honestly idk what to say to that, since I’ve reliably killed entire formations of ANS and OSP capital ships with them. If you’re not having a good time with torps, but still want some heavier damage gear I’d try out some beam DD’s for ANS and plasma/100mm for OSP, they’re great for cutting apart heavy and light targets alike. JDee has quite a few tutorials on other builds you might like

[@admiralcasperr]

1:00 LETTUCE BEGIN

[@cpt.gwyndolin8665]

Im new but this doesnt seem too difficult! Can't wait to try it!

[@d0d0birdiexd78]

Yes it’s a decent strat and very fun! Be sure to hug asteroids, keep a low profile, and be smart when delegating your targets, focus fire on capital ships and strike with overwhelming force. Happy torping!

[@estebangrafeuille9111]

how did it go? im new also but havent tried tops yet

[@Kennanjk]

Damn it really do be that easy

[@marcopirrotta2791]

Good tutorial, I crave more good sir.

[@luke4010]

Awesome

[@zachlolz]

this was so good ty