T5 Jin | The Once Mighty Jin Is Nerfed Into The Ground

[@jarplejarple3509]

Jin's fist is bigger than his head!

[@jackmate512]

XD

[@Quran_eee]

lmfao

[@__SunFlow__]

For real tho. Wtf?

[@Tewfurt]

Jin is so unbalanced. In terms of body proportions.

[@cri4921]

Meh it's probably just the gloves that makes it more bigger than it usually is

[@TK_TheFURY]

And he still won the tournament

[@dejawho4147]

Didn't Jin lose to Hworang ?👀🤔

[@waserdert6259]

@@dejawho4147 uhh he didn't want to fight soo he didn't try his best, he let it off

[@dejawho4147]

@@waserdert6259 oh wow thnx for letting me know 😊 Because I read on wiki that jin turned to devil & then won ; so I was wondering if devil jin should be called the champion or Jin himself.

[@killinghawkz]

​​@@dejawho4147no he's wrong. The devil gene was interfering jins battle with hworang Jin tried his best to keep the devil gene from taking control of him as Jin was fighting against it with his kazama blood Jin was defense less his guard was down and hworang attacked him knocking Jin out but the devil gene takes over quickly then devil Jin awakens then defeats hworang quickly then advances the tournament and defeats jinpachi. This also explains Tekken 5's devil within mode as jins guard was down because he was trying to hold on against the devil gene but since his guard was down he got knocked out by squadrons of jacks then later recovers then defeats all of them

[@immortalflame994]

Guess Jin was strong enough to beat Jinpachi but nerfed enough to point where he can't end the Mishima bloodline

[@DJWeapon8]

Kudaran...

[@JunKazamaFan]

I feel like naming Jin's new b, f+2,1,2 string "Evil Intent" was an in-joke from Namco in regards to its Tekken 4 infamy.

[@DJWeapon8]

Account pic pls

[@JunKazamaFan]

@@DJWeapon8 HentaiBro, Kelly Overton.

[@hessiankyojin]

@@JunKazamaFanNot anymore

[@rencrowe5253]

tekken 4 jins model looks better than tekken 5 jin, is it just me that thinks this?

[@taylorbee4010]

Aesthetics nerfed lol Tekken 4 is pretty It had to prove itself for the new generation T5 is a mix of that and classic Tekken

[@lol69203]

I think tekken 4 jin has been his best rendition. His face truly looked like juns, and the bangs were more like hers. He was also clearly buff but not to the ridiculous degree in later games, it looked natural.

[@TsunTsunTan]

Less polygons, but yeah, T4s Jin was perfecto(and handsome.)

[@TheLenny655]

The nerfs made him look retarded XD

[@jacobcraz8487]

@@lol69203 tag 2 Jin build definitely looks natural

[@zero28ism]

DUDE I DIDN'T EVEN FINISH TEKKEN 5'S KAZUYA VIDEO

[@GORO911]

lol same here

[@suiken3149]

Jin's combo summarized = Savage Sword

[@Carlanite]

thank god Tekken 6 was the first game I got serious at. I was lookin forward for Jin at the very start lol.

[@exwhalechannel2601]

Im still using jin as main in tekken 5 lol... back in the days

[@tonybloodloss]

Just played Jin (always mained him and Kaz) in T5 on my ps2 after playing him in T7 on PC and it was a huge pain in urethrae.

[@GORO911]

Tekken 5 Jin, a protagonist of the game yet the weakest character among the roster. very strange turning Jin from the most OP char in T4 to the most worthless in T5

[@HadesHatredEdge]

I don't expect the protag to be the best character but to make him suck makes no sense to me. Capcom is doing that to Ryu in SFV.

[@GORO911]

@@HadesHatredEdge Capcom is doing it to Ryu to push people away from him and make them switch to other characters since Ryu is the most popular character with beginners. Namco did to Jin to make sure the large number of people that played Jin in Tekken 4 switch him in Tekken 5

[@josephsua7246]

It would’ve made sense if T4 Jin was swapped with T5 as his progression would’ve fit.

[@GORO911]

@@josephsua7246 starting with TTT2 Jin regained his strength again, and now in T7 is a top character, in a decent way unlike the cheap OP Jin of T4. so Namco fixed it well at the end

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

@@GORO911 They're both the fifth in the series of video games in which these characters got nerfed.

[@shahtayyib]

3:55 the mental alertness added a jump kick to b1 3 I believe. I have it engrained into my memory. I think they added a few more things too

[@Theprimaryfocus]

I loved this version of Jin. He was simplistic and you really could master his defense with his parry.

[@vojacked305]

There was a mode in this game, where you'll be matched against AI and beating them will increase the rank of your played character. The thing is, you can defeat everybody in that mode with just two moves using Jin. That long kick and that one two punch by pressing the punches button simultaneously

[@BuckshotBill118]

Man, my brother used to laugh at me that I couldn't beat Jinpachi. I was a Jin main and like 7.

[@jasonholland721]

Your brothers an asshole

[@Catto.PK2007]

@@jasonholland721 I know

[@Shyuthrosnaevin]

You don't need lows against a.i

[@ac0017]

@@jasonholland721 Do not curse and dont call people names✝️♥️🙂

[@jasonholland721]

@@ac0017 but he was in fact. Being an asshole. Jinpachi is incredibly difficult to beat.

[@ggmr399]

Mainmanswe:Tekken 5 jin doesn't have combos. TAS: Hold my assist!

[@tempo8462]

I remember some korean players actually playing jin very well.. I didnt know jin was so weak in t5, respect to them for playing a nerfed char. Btw i played only jin from mishima family during t5 days becoz he was easy to use compared to dvj or kazuya and i cant do ewgf those days n he had so many mids

[@sgr_sean]

my head canon for this has been that since jin is fighting against being overtaken by the devil gene the whole time in tekken 5, i guess it can explain how weak he is, but then he starts to gain control by the time he reaches Jinpachi.

[@HunterDred]

Even though he was the weakest in the game i still remember taking him all the tym in tekken 5 .. Then tekken 5 dr came thn i became a lili main...

[@charhaznable3399]

Is the stronger but is special,the soul omen.

[@fasoooli2751]

3:44 1 2 is in t5 dr and spinning kick was also changed

[@yousseflahmaidi3728]

Even if jin was not one of the best characters in tekken 5 but devil jin was a beast

[@DamageXcaling]

Thank you for putting this video up Mainmain, you are a true brother.

[@YfanTheNial]

I Love your video 👍

[@MangaGamified]

MMS: "From God **pause** to ant" lol thats the keyword of the video

[@youllgetnoinfoaboutmytwitt5689]

"Jin top 2 in Tekken 7" arsenalty really did a number on you huh

[@tytk]

youll get no info about my twitter bj ! he’s not wrong though?

[@LarsWins99]

Kinda reminds me myself...

[@blackfoxhound6801]

VG World Buff *YOU.*

[@blackfoxhound6801]

VG World let’s make everyone op.

[@hooch8300]

#bufflars

[@HunterDred]

Poor lars will email harada again XD

[@HunterDred]

poor lars mains i kinda feel bad for them but i tried to convince harada san he didn't reply yet XD...

[@PoloBoyPrince]

even though Jin is nerfed he is more fun in this game.

[@jacobcraz8487]

Not even close lol

[@Mattev2309]

Being greedy but please do this with the T6 roster :)

[@holeyschitt]

The only balanced Tekken in the franchise

[@Mattev2309]

@@holeyschitt Not with Bob and Devil Jin 😂

[@holeyschitt]

@@Mattev2309 Both of them were really linear... I loved playing against them because I used to spam instant side step. They'd freeze up and I'd be doing most of the offense

[@blackfoxhound6801]

Testostxrone V2 not really zafinas 1+2 attack was so quick and had so much hitstun that it was almost inescapable unless you were law and did a somersault out of the attack and bob players are just horrendous when ever they can’t land a hit they unpredictably grab you *EVERY TIME*.

[@lxrd5238]

Matt E lars man what a fucking pain in the ass before all the nerfs second to bob in the game

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

Tekken 5 is my favourite Tekken series till date. I must agree Jin Kazama in Tekken 5 is terrible after being a great fighter in Tekken 4. Glad his better in Tekken 6 onwards.

[@S_P_A_C_I_F_Y]

I Swear Tekken 4 had Better Grapics Than Tekken 5 ? Or am I blind

[@mickjansson-cc1og]

I agree

[@LawlFrank]

You could still down 4 all the way to tekken lord with no skill with him :D I can still hear him shouting DAH! DAH!

[@MrUchiha]

I swear the background music of T5 is the best.

[@torrezzz.]

Jin was a god in tekken tag tournament 1

[@onegap6283]

I think Jin actually wasn't so bad in tekken 5. I agree with that one combo move (downback + 2, 2, 3) but Jin had so many secret moves that wasn't listen in his move list! for example: You could use mental alertness by pressing (down + 1 + 2) after certain moves. [gives you counter and +2 damage] Mental alertness (2) had bonus moves that also wasn't listed. you could use (forward, forward+3) with the Mental alertness (2). back+1, forward+3 and back+1, forward+4 :)

[@Red_Tiger0925]

The mental alertness move is risky because you can’t block afterwards. It’s more of a stylish move more than anything. And all the other “great” secret moves doesn’t help because all those are slow mids. Not lows

[@suiken3149]

Jokes on you, Main. Despite how nerfed T5 Jin was, he was still a popular choice for players. At least here when the arcade scene was still strong.

[@jasonelbow3807]

Lows in Virtua Figter 5 FS are normally -3 on hit. There are very few lows that grant plus frames on hit in that game.

[@dylaroo24]

Jin’s zen sweep in this game is on par with Lili’s snake edge…

[@davetorres3906]

i've been playing a lot on my PSP with Jin in DR, taking him to Divine Fist and i just realized how bad he was in this game, super limited compared to 6 onwards.

[@ahmadafzal1918]

Steve and hwoarang in this game were fkin nightmares

[@taylorbee4010]

Still the most fun Tekken #ReviveT5

[@S_P_A_C_I_F_Y]

Fax

[@JIX9ISLER1986]

Jin Kazama Game Tier List been a jin main since 1997 never dropped him 1)Tekken 4 Jin (best) 2)Tekken 7 Jin 3)Tekken Tag 2 Jin 4) Tekken 6 Jin 5) Tekken Tag 1 Jin (tekken 3) 6) Tekken 5 Jin (worst)

[@danielkruger7589]

If we're actually talking about straight up character strength here, tekken 3 jin should probably be 2nd or 3rd.

[@tiradegrandmarshal]

Is this just personal preference, or character strength? If it's the latter, Tag 1 Jin should be #2 on this list easily, and T3 Jin #3.

[@chronology556]

Tekken 3 and Tekken Tag Tournament Jin, are synonymous with the Devil Jin starting with Tekken 5. Mishima style Fictional Style Karate, is not the same as the more realistic Karate of Tekken 4 Jin beyond. They have been split into two different characters, because people missed the old Mishima style Karate Jin from 3 and Tag, so they added Devil Jin in 5 to bring him back.

[@JV_VALENTINE6GX594]

I main Jin between Tekken 3 to 4 & I drop him in 5 I heard people talk about him how he was OP in 4 but I main Lee & Devil Jin in this game for Tekken 5

[@alvcas]

I mained t5 Jin and he always had issues, especially with juggles. The only way to get a decent advantage was to stagger with parries. His 10 hit combo also had too many gaps for miss/block.

[@camm8642]

he was heavily nerfed but still decent shows how OP he was in 4 he needed to be toned down a bit.

[@firippumartinezu1782]

I was just going to ask you to do a Jin video after I saw the Kazuya one. Thanks! x)

[@andrex0071]

1:18 who is top #1 in Tekken 7???

[@andrex0071]

@Sixten Ålin ahhh? but I asked for tekken7 hahaha but Thanks

[@lortchkarlsson7553]

Tekken 3 Jin will always be the best.

[@TownsRelaibleBronxstenian]

Tekken Tag's Jin is actually more better with new moves that Devil Jin now with-holds.

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

Tekken 7 Jin is how he should stay, he's difficult to pick up and honestly he's difficult to master as well but he's incredibly good, not broken or overpowered or anything, he's just a great character, in Tekken 5 Jin was a crippled imposter of what he was in Tekken 4 and what he is in the games to follow, he's so damn slow in this game, he wasn't necessarily fast in Tekken 4 but he had broken moves to make up for it, here he was slowed down and nerfed beyond belief, sometimes when I play the older Tekken's, Tekken 3, Tekken 4, when I play those versions of Jin and I go back to Tekken 7 he feels stiff, but when I look at him in Tekken 5 he's pretty much suffering from arthritis or something, everything's slow, everything's weak and well, just watch the video, it's explained pretty damn well. I think Jin should have a means of parrying closer to how he did in Tekken 3, but the rest is fine I think, since they gave the rest to Devil Jin so that Jin isn't a copy of every other Mishima, the rest of his moves are fine though I just miss being able to time a parry and be rewarded with some damage, unless it was countered which should never be a thing, you already risked so much to get that parry, so when it gets countered it's just really annoying, his parry nowadays is kinda useless to be honest, I know that a TAS can use his parry endlessly after one successful parry but that's not humanly possible making his current parry almost useless, his gimmick should be his zenshin and mental awareness, the parry doesn't need to be there anymore, if it does it should be how it was in Tekken 3, I know Paul still has that parry so if Jin had it I really don't think it would be that game breaking. Also does anyone know which Tekken game Lee was actually pretty good in? As in when was Lee in his prime? I know he's actually decent in Tekken 5, but I just want to know because Lee never seems to be on the radar for some reason.

[@DamageXcaling]

Agree that Jin feels weaker in past versions prior T7 disagree that he doesn't need parry or that is gimmick, if you understand Jin at high level, Jin parry is a situational tool, for a very specific situation, when you start to see patterns on your opponent attacks you don't even need to dodge it when you can parry, simply as that.

[@qadrytownes5277]

If you're a great Jin player, it doesn't really matter...I kicked a lot of ass with T5 Jin

[@mainaHighway]

Surely there are so many things weaker than T4. :)

[@SuperSeenith]

Will you be talking about T5DR? This was the first tekken game many people played online and it would be interesting to see how they addressed issues from T5.0

[@MrBranh0913]

The Mishimas were all top tier in Tekken 5 DR. It was a much more technical and much less broken game. Tekken 5 vanilla actually wasnt competitive all that long. Tekken 5 DR is the definitive competitive game for Tekken 5. But the Mishima's are insanely powerful in the game. I don't remember Jin being that much better. He was barely used

[@HouseofWilliamsSisters]

can we talk about ninas old uf1 lmfao

[@HCI1stH4rtG3il]

Tk5 jin got some pretty combos but brvh

[@TheStrangeN]

I would be interested in seeing a vid on how Jin changed in T5:DR, love this content

[@Zetho]

Same thing happened to Sean from 2nd impact to 3rd strike

[@walterbarros1854]

nerfed into oblivion.

[@cloudjin893]

But i liked playing jin in T5. I owned people at arcades back in the day with him. Albeit i think my opponents were just casuals or trash, but i still beat them with jin.

[@armorwolf7934]

Yeah I played armor king in dr and he was also limited a bit but I still beat fengs, Ninas Bryan’s and all the other more op characters

[@presabranca]

I feel really bad because in this game I was Tekken Lord with Jin, when I played Tekken 7 With real people online I was enraged cause I couldn't pass 1 Dan thought that I was not that bad, I thought that they must have nerfed him or something, against my friends I was an "Assassin" but after Tekken 7 I realized how much I suck at the game, and my friends, poor guys.....I wish that the AI in this was much better to avoid my painful rude awake.....

[@presabranca]

@Tcb bct I didn't know that, well real people are better..., I didn't even knew about korean back dash, Tekken Lord fighting with AI means nothing I guess....

[@tippingguy8514]

he didnt show the 1+2 thing

[@leonard9624]

Nah, he didnt become trash, its just that every char in tekken 5 is good and usable

[@Amant_Sombre]

T4 was Jin and Steve's Game

[@Quran_eee]

We need one for Lee

[@ALLMIGHTO95]

CBM *holding a candle*

[@zenssensei5378]

Tekken 5 Jin can catch techroll do you know that?

[@myspace4408]

Down+RP, RP also the good one, which it's Quick enough to counter and like Jeet Kune Do moves... 😂😂😂

[@KAMAL123420]

Mainman do a jack 5 video!

[@dinomoviesnstuff]

For the good player, there is no soft ball.

[@chazjamie30]

Hey man. Do you still teach Tekken?

[@darkflash1385]

So Jin then in T5 was like Lars in T7 huh?

[@darkflash1385]

@VG World lars is not so bad as many think

[@jacobcraz8487]

@VG World Lars is the only Mishima that could fight and beat Jin base so yeah....

[@drel_underheaven908]

They only needed to nerf laser scraper but they just murdered the charecter instead

[@SuperMasterJefe]

I wanna know what was the reason replacing the lazer scraper with this version of the move. It cant be cause devil jin came back amd took the old move set cause jin still uses alot of the classic moves, just different inputs like the foward 3 spinkick for example. Now it's just up 3. I dont get it. They didn't need to change it

[@AK47Toast]

U are wrong with the d,b 2,2,3 combos U can do jab jab hookfist and then wall d,b 2,2,3

[@soicysoicy]

Hello mainland sui!

[@pillowcroco3922]

wow so no safe low attacks at all. big defect, thx for reviewing older series and could you please tell us any changes in 5dr?

[@xDragunovax]

How do you FORGET Jin’s Soul Omen! That’s what made him good! 🤦🏻‍♂️ all his Mental Alertness Charges as well.

[@brownwallet942]

Jin in Tekken 5 is still a monster because of his parry and his ws2. My friend ducks my high almost everytime and ws2. His main launchers are hopkick his electric 1 and ws2 but he parries to a cancan too. He mostly utilize his EWGF when my back is behind the wall.

[@drunkredninja]

2nd impact sean got nerfed pretty hard too. idk who got it worse, sean or jin.

[@tiradegrandmarshal]

Yeah, it's a pretty comparable fall from grace.

[@Raver-1601]

Jin sacrificed his brokeness for the emo cult

[@toutlemondesalut]

Let's talk about Lee Chaolan now ;)

[@lukewarm._.pudding9354]

The back 1 sweep had a parry

[@fasoooli2751]

sweep? you mean 2 that right punch

[@lukewarm._.pudding9354]

@@fasoooli2751 nah the sweep has a low parry,,thats why its so slow

[@fasoooli2751]

@@lukewarm._.pudding9354 yes both have you're still right

[@artpastorette4547]

Hwoarang is an Aries

[@pollege6579]

I was using Jin anyway lol

[@ICEMAN-Z8]

Pls make a vid about Hworang

[@The_Humble_Hurricane]

Minus 2 on hit?!........What in the actual fuck?

[@MrBranh0913]

Didnt Nina counter Jin in Tekken 4? Which is why she was so good in Tekken 5

[@jacobcraz8487]

Anyone could counter anyone in tekken 4. You could jab Jin outta laser scrapper

[@toltrona101]

Kinda surprised that you didn’t mentioned Jin’s CD1 in T5. T4 Jin’s CD1 was a side-step knockdown punch, but in T5, it has become a launching uppercut, similar to the Mishima’s EWGF, except it was weaker ofc. In T6, TT2 and T7, Jin’s CD1 also had an electric version but it still isn’t fully safe.

[@toltrona101]

@Tcb bct Oh really!? Well I learned something new :D

[@darrito04]

Main man at 9:27 Everyone else: He got a point Dedicated Jin players: Ill see what I can do.

[@sonic7comet]

good why Jin always be powerful other characters need to get chance too

[@sonic7comet]

I think Tekken5 was a balanced game everyone is almost equal nit like Tekken7 some are extremely powerful sone are totally nerfed

[@altonj95]

Tekken 7 is broken beyond belief wall bounce after juggling someone like come on bro you can literally perfect dudes

[@jacobcraz8487]

That game is garbage lol easy peasy tekken I only fuck with tag 2 ad an online tekken. It did it right

[@danielkruger7589]

@@jacobcraz8487 Bigger roster and possibly more fun combos (if you like the more difficult execution) are the only points that one could honestly make for tag 2 over t7. Damage output was absolutely dumb compared to T7, tag mechanics were janky as fuck sometimes (tag crash in oki situations made for the weirdest shit). If you like that, fine, but T7 is less punishing, making it less frustrating. At least to me that is. I would prefer not to just get obliterated off a counter hit WITHOUT RAGE. Balancing is also better in T7 imo, since ever since season 2, you have a lot of variety in tournament top 8s. You saw more Bob in Tag 2 than you see DJ, paul or Steve in T7. Maybe that's just me tho.

[@iDenosis]

Could it be that when he transformed in Devil it took away all his coolness and Devil Jin stole the swag and technique?

[@joshmulligan950]

I mean... He should have stayed in the trash sweaty

[@Carlanite]

T5 Jin and T6 Jin is the same right?

[@Master_Xi]

T6 Jin has b+1,2 so...

[@Carlanite]

Seath Control T6 Jin is buffed a tiny bit with plus frames But he still kind of limited right?

[@gsfovg]

No. T6 Jin is a lot better as he has at least b+2,1 for punishing from medium range

[@funishmentgaming9454]

4:24 what move is that jin?

[@FallenAngel2k02]

Mental Alterness then you press Circle

[@matschbanane2843]

Have you activated your Windows yet?

[@carlosvillanueva1210]

Did they fixed those problems in Tekken5 DR?

[@tiradegrandmarshal]

Jin was slightly better in DR but still pretty weak there.

[@christopherpeoples583]

Jun will always be nerfed still my main

[@sunseongeon]

tk3,ttt,tk4 xiaoyu review plz

[@kiddhkane]

This is totally unrelated to the video's topic... But look at how amazing this game was in so many ways. Just looking at the scene gives me some feelings. Amazing, mystic music with vocals that take me to another plane. Beautiful scene, something at the edge of this reality, with the tribal wall paintings being a perfect detail finishing the whole look. Two guys fighting there. I didn't have to care about the story, no one gave a fuck about a political message and 27 genders... A game was supposed to be badass, and it was.

[@fazal-e-rabi8602]

Did you know what i did to main man's whatsup I made it my whatsapp tune

[@deatheye987]

Kinda reminds me of Lars ☹️

[@tiradegrandmarshal]

Or even 6.0 Kazuya (beast) to BR Kazuya (weak).

[@fasoooli2751]

@@tiradegrandmarshal what happened to 6.0 kazuya?