The Tekken Iceberg Explained

[@mr.voidout4739]

To add to the Soul Calubir shared universe is Heihachi in PS2 SC2. Easily dismissable as just a guest character, but if you go to his character profile, they lore'd it as Heihachi took a bath in a mystical hotspring that transported him to 16th Century Japan. So at least it's explained... plenty headcanon for me. ...pretty cool that the Devil Gene and Soul Edge's corruption are essentially the same power.

[@GmNdWtchr96]

Well, with Kazuya getting into Smash, he'll finally actually fight Snake.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Ha!

[@TUCell-ps5mi]

If Snake won’t come to Tekken Tekken will come to Snake

[@Lunatic89097]

Oh gosh I almost forgot about that EVO mishap!

[@leichterKampfer]

Explain im lost

[@fabulososanchez9703]

@@Lunatic89097 ???they mistakenly announced snake ??

[@RebellionStudioMusic]

This video would have been golden if you had used actual footage for everything you talked about.

[@Ish7190]

Confidence 9/10 (could not find the art) 😂

[@baileywalker2478]

THANK YOU!!

[@kiddalmatiangawd8389]

Yeah, can somebody redo it the right way?

[@jenisia3600]

Exactly

[@KnottsBear-yTalesPreserved]

Yeah, If there is two things I don't like about certain Iceberg videos. Its not using images/footage associated with the topic or someone talking while holding a mic with no things shown on screen. For the latter, I absolutely cannot stand seeing someone talk with that hokey current trend of people holding mics. It makes you look stupid looking. Like I don't want to see you. I want to see the stuff you're talking about.

[@justsomeguywithkaminasshad7145]

22:07 Slight correction: It's Daisuke Gori, who was Heihachi's voice actor from Tekken 3 to 6, who passed away in 2010. Daisuke Ono is a completely different voice actor (and is still alive).

[@dotpixel2226]

Hello fellow tekken and sket dance fan

[@postie464]

Yeah I was listening thinking "Wait Jotaro didn't voice Heihachi"

[@wildeyedduck]

@@postie464 Jotaro didn’t, but Joseph did

[@jawg0]

@@ColtonMiller6012 They were talking about Gori

[@alfalfaanand6113]

But wait... Isn't Joseph joestar part 3 is voiced by him? Hmmm that's 2012 anime Well correct me if I'm wrong

[@MrZongalito]

Honestly the slander to ttt2 saddens me, that's my fav tekken, is so lovely to have every possible character, all of them actually having endings, from serious to downright humorous I. Loved everything and I hope namco doesn't feel discouraged to make a ttt3

[@erinmoran4477]

It’s so shocking. I totally thought it sold well???

[@destructo3457]

@@erinmoran4477 It only sold 2 million copies, and till this day it's the most complex Tekken game to date, some pros go as far to say that we don't even know all the things possible in the game yet.

[@frankunodostres473]

I can only 2nd that! I hope the many story seeds that were planted in the game eventually get a canon pay-off in the future

[@IronMiddo]

Yoooo same TTT2 is my all time favourite

[@IncredibleHemp]

My favorite too!

[@belosneshkaaaa]

"dragunov can talk" YES LMAO, i thought nobody talks about this, its confirmed that he CAN talk but chooses not to its also kinda referenced that he likes trains wich is always funny to me, it makes sense and i headcanon him having miniatur trains or tanks in his home, i mean he has a special item like this in the current game!

[@gamemax1049]

Dragunov: "I like Trains." *Train proceed to run him over.

[@belosneshkaaaa]

@@gamemax1049 old ass meme but i hate how i this was in my mind too sometimes

[@gamemax1049]

@@belosneshkaaaa It just fits Dragunov, i can see Harada doing this

[@belosneshkaaaa]

@@gamemax1049 haradas two moods are really "dont ask me for shit" or trolling LMAO

[@Neogears1312]

I believe it’s stated that dragunov doesn’t talk because his hobby is singing, which is why he hums a lot, and wants to rest his vocal chords so he can sing efficiently.

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

You know what? Let's see Jin toss Kazuya off an iceberg.

[@someguywithabirdface2583]

I think that's more effective

[@rashoietolan3047]

@@someguywithabirdface2583 hypothermia is fucking deadly q

[@sinister2509]

Tekken 8 ending

[@DarkArms17]

One thing to add to the iceberg. Lili also cameo'd in a Queen's Blade game, "Queen's Gate: Spiral Chaos", as well as other fighting game characters from DOA,SC,KOF,etc.

[@SteinVidarAndersen]

Some other cases of music sampling in Tekken: Angkor Wat (T1) / Ancient Temple [Kunimitsu's Theme] (T2): X-101 - "Rave New World" Jaz Coleman and Anne Dudley - " Force and Fire" Chicago (T1) / It Makes Me Higher [Lee Chaolan's Theme] (T2): Jonny L - "Ooh I Like It (Original Sin)" Prince - "Loose!" King George Island (T1) / Almost Frozen [Anna Williams' Theme] (T2): Charlie Smalls and Quincy Jones - "Emerald City (Green, Red and Gold)" (from the movie "The Wiz")

[@longneckedgiraffemom4196]

I can add that Crystal Clear by The Grid sounds pretty similar to Quiet Interim Report from Tekken 2. The Kyoto/Ganryu theme also has a case of music sampling, with it sampling from Orbital's "Lush 3-1" and Cubic 22's "Night in Motion - Original Mix".

[@tobykassulke2385]

Gonna suggest some more stuff for the iceberg. I was actually gonna make my own iceberg lol. Apoligies if i'm repeating info. Dean Earwicker is also an npc in tekken 4's force mode. Theres a screenshot of an early beta outfit for jin in tekken 3 arcade where he's wearing a training outfit. Tekken 3 had an orchestral calendar where they had images of characters in an orchestra. Its pretty cool. In an old developer video for tekken 2 theres some artwork that has never been seen. Tekken 2 had a weird port to the obscure console called the Zeebo, it had sort of updated graphics and used tekken 5 sound effects such as the announcer. Theres a picture of michael jackson playing tekken 1 in the arcade. Im pretty sure lee's car in tekken tag tournament 1's opening is the Honda S2000 Theres also a different tag 1 arcade opening depending on the region where paul is replaced by lee. Tag 1 had physical trading cards at some point, apparently they're rare. TGS99 showcased a tech demo of tekken tag tournament which looks neat. Theres a red hot chili peppers easter egg in tekken 4 force mode where each npc shares a name with each member of the band. Theres a glitch in the japanese version of tekken 4 where the arena stage can have no walls. The track quadra was originally an unused song from ridge racer. Marduk had a different voice in the japanese version of tekken 4 In the beta versions of tekken 4 kazuya had jins 1+2 from the final game and law had green and purple pants. Hwoarang was voiced in japanese at some point during tekken 4's development. There was a really crappy youtube video of azazel supposedly being in tag 2 lol. Tag 2 was referenced in the anime Accel World. There was a series of instructional VHS and laserdisc videos in japan for tekken 1, 2 and 3 teaching the viewer how to play the games. The early title for tekken 1 "rave war" is referenced in ridge racer on a car. Theres a yoshimitsu easter egg in ridge racer type 4 where he's a decal that can be selected. In tekken 2 and tag tournament its possible to hear juns laugh with a glitch Kazuya's voice actor in tekken 1 to tekken tag tournament is the current voice actor for sol badguy from guilty gear.

[@Deep_wolf]

I also wanna add some common knowlegde like in T1 only heihachi could move in 3d, he has runaway move. In T2 he was added with Kaz's misstep (random input forward). That two most known 3d moves before T3.

[@Deep_wolf]

Also, I dunno if its just coincidence, but in early DDR games on ps1 there is one character that looks way similiar to Tiger Jackson.

[@belosneshkaaaa]

i have another one dragunov likes trains LMAO, that was referenced in that train level in the scenario mode

[@belosneshkaaaa]

also i heard there was a controversy with that artbook for TTT2 because not all characters are in there

[@Vitor20XX]

Raven is Blade the vampire hunter

[@Featherinmycap]

The more I think about the "Secret Korean Tekken Thing" the more it seems plausible. Tekken Tag was an update kit (or "chip") to Tekken 3 originally. Arcade tests are definitely a thing. It seems to be some truth mixed with a lot of lies to keep it interesting.

[@Hoarseplay]

Slightly disappointed that Ken 'Godhand' Mishima from Ehrgeiz isn't referenced on this iceberg because I think that's a neat bit of trivia.

[@ZephyrusBlue]

That game was so fuckin cool back then. Still don’t know how certain things worked (like if maybe the bots had exclusive chains or not) but it was fantastic

[@Hoarseplay]

@@ZephyrusBlue Ehrgeiz has a lot of just-frames and what moves you can do are effected by your positioning. It's a very fast and technical game that does nothing to teach you how to play it.

[@Whienzarth]

You a real one for that lol

[@ZephyrusBlue]

@@Hoarseplay I just remember that as a kid, GameFaqs only really helped with that dungeon crawler mode. That game was so cool lol. It’s crazy to think it became a thing with all these different types of games going on within it

[@Hoarseplay]

@Dr.Sir Bruce Armstrong Mother Fucker The Third I was never fond of Power Stone outside of its character and world design, so I don't have much frame of reference for how it plays. Urban Reign is the complete opposite, I love playing the game but think it has the worst character design to come out of any Namco game (but I still want Brad Hawk in Tekken). I don't think its a fair comparison because Urban Reign controls more like a wrestling game, which makes sense because it was designed with 4-player brawls in mind. Intricate movelists like that don't wok in those types of games because spatial awareness is even more important when up to 3 people can gang up on you. You rely on quick, heavy damage or i-frame abuse from throws. Other games have tried to have 4-player brawls with the intricate 1v1 movelists, but they never end up working. Nothing else on the market plays like Ehrgeiz before or since. It's like a middle ground between the standard 1v1 fighter and arena brawlers at the time like Power Stone. I can't in good faith say that the game is good, but its certainly fascinating if you have an interest in odd and/or old fighting games.

[@volpe2077]

Oh my God, this is some TOP TIER Tekken content! Maaaan, this is really making me wish you would make theory videos on Tekken's Timeline, the story and its characters' narratives T-T. No one's more qualified than you, that's for sure! I can't believe there are hardly any videos on YT discussing story, characters, or theories! Tekken's story and Characters are so well put together and interesting, not to mention the fact that the narrative is structured like a puzzle we need to put together and that we don't even have all the answers to, that's so exciting and unique!

[@MetaKnuxXbeats]

I always loved the Tekken and Soul Calibur shared universe theory, honestly one of my personal favorite gaming theories of all time, so I am glad to see it sort of touched on with Yoshimitsu though I have a theory that maybe Soul Edge or just the power of Soul Edge is connected to things like the Devil or the mysterious evil power that revived Jinpachi which is implied to be connected to the Devil anyways, kind of like the Malfested characters all having a connection to Soul Edge. Considering that both do gain power from bloodshed and destruction, I think there is at least something there. Then we have Azazel, who I think came from the Astral Chaos, which Soul Edge and Calibur also came from since Azazel in T6 stated he is from a higher plan of existence which I think can be the Astral Chaos, Which I think make sense since Night terror, who is said to be the personification of the Astral Chaos itself, and considering it shares moves from the devils from Tekken, I think they have some kind of connection. There is even the orb that comes out of Azazel, which is said to be the main source of the Devil, I think is potentially some fragment of Soul Edge, considering that it would have a similar effect to Yoshimitsu's sword in both series. Even Orge, although not a devil, I think has some sort of connection to the Astral Chaos since. Yea, it is stated he is an alien but I don't think they mean as an alien from outer space but from another dimension or plan of existence, and he has some traits of what can be considered "Malfested" or something similar but really, it is very unknown since we know very little about Ogre himself so maybe all this can fill in the gaps. In the end, I am thinking that the Devil is probably an extension to the Soul Edge's energy, or maybe a modern equivalent. I don't know, all of this can probably be not true or even debunked but I can talk about this stuff or hours honestly. Also, that Rage Mishima entry of the Iceberg really brew my mind. I was pretty skeptical at first but then I started to realize, "wait, that kind of sounds like Tekken Tag 1 minus the Rage part" and the scar under Kazuya's eye which first came in T4, which is either the most luckiest prediction I have ever heard or maybe they actually know more then we do.

[@ivantsarevitch337]

I actually had a theory that Azazel is the byproduct of the destruction between souledge and calibur.

[@Leadblast]

The description for this "Rage Mishima" fits Jin a lot actually. Think about it, he's described as having many of Kazuya's moves, including "the sweeps" which I assume it to be Kazuya's uf+4,4,4,4, but it's also said that he has a lot of unique moves. That description basically fits the T3/TTT1 version of Jin to a tee. Only the visual description of him seems somewhat different. Maybe he was either an early version of Jin, or a derived concept character based off Jin, or maybe even both.

[@MetaKnuxXbeats]

@@Leadblast not sure how I didn’t make that connection either

[@BeeBN]

@@Leadblast i was thinking it was maybe devil jin

[@UltraZeroX7]

First of all, I just want to say you did an excellent job with this video! As a Tekken fan, it's always great to look at these kinds of facts and rumors. Out of all that were discussed in this video, Rage Mishima was definitely the one I found it most interesting. For the record, I've actually seen this name popped up on some of the old Tekken 3 guides I found at the Internet. The fact you went deeper into such topic is just amazing, really interesting stuff. Appreciate your efforts, keep up the good work! With that out of the way, figured I leave out some additional tidbits/corrections on some of the covered topics while we're at it... *Young Heihachi in Tekken 3DS* - The name of Heihachi's VA from Tekken 3 up until Tekken 6 is *NOT* Daisuke Ono, rather, it is Daisuke Gori. *Wooden SFX* - This Mokujin secret also works on Tekken 3 and Tag 1 (in the case of Tetsujin, he will make metallic noises). It's even applicable to Combot in Tekken 4! *Jinpachi & Kinjin in Tekken 4* - Jinpachi's name goes a long way back, he is actually mentioned in the first game's Japanese manual/guide, which you can check it out here: diary.ru/~tekkenseries/p190997550_profajly-iz-tekken-1-raritet.htm#more1 - Additionally, in Wang's Tekken 2 ending, the gravestone he visits has Jinpachi's name written on it (in kanji). So yeah, it seems they already had plans for such character right from the very start; they weren't just so sure on how can they properly/fully integrate him in the roster (the same thing can be said for Kazumi, whose name shows up in Heihachi's Tekken 2 stage) - As for Kinjin, interestingly enough, his name does show up in Tekken Tag 1 (arcade version)'s graphic data, likely intended for the golden Tetsujin variant! You can see it here: static.wikia.nocookie.net/tekken/images/e/ec/KinjinUnknwonTiger.png/revision/latest?cb=20130725133134&path-prefix=en *Robert Miles & East 17* - In regards to the guitar riff found in East 17's song (Steam) and Lei Wulong's Tekken 3 theme, it is actually taken from a sample library called "Funk Guitar" by ZERO-G. There's a bunch of other games that make use of this exact guitar riff sample, Capcom VS SNK 2's Osaka theme being a good example. You can check out the whole video demo here (there's a comment that lists timestamps of guitar riff samples used in several Tekken 3 tracks!): kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5Swo6uCfLOdY9k - This forum thread right here documents a lot of sample libraries used in different games, Tekken 3 being one of them. Might be worth checking out: vgmdb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11231 That’s all. Thanks for reading!

[@Shirdel]

The Heihachi VA was just a slip of the tongue by me! Everything else you sent is awesome, I had no idea Jinpachi was established that far back and that the Wooden SFX secret worked in the earlier games! I had no idea about the samples but it makes sense that a lot of samples are used in all the OSTs. Thanks a lot for all of this :D

[@UltraZeroX7]

@@Shirdel You're welcome! ;)

[@matitone]

I'm very late but i wanted to add something about tekken 3d, for some reason heihachi features the tag 2 moveset while everyone else in the game has the tekken 6 moveset

[@triplet00]

I've got one no one has noticed and I've actually found this easter egg myself! Tekken Tag tournament 2 features a inverted picture of Obama! On the Ballon parade stage in tag 2 on a billboard hidden is a inverted pic of Obama from his rolling stones cover. Also aliens can be spotted in the canyon stage on tag 2. If you wall break to the Lowe level and hit your enemy against the rocks you will see some Aliens escape from the level! This could be a call back to Paul's Tekken 5 ending where he challenges Aliens coming to earth.

[@skeleto46821]

Wow didn’t notice Obama before.

[@manny49507]

There’s also a vampire in the Chinese festival level

[@ShrapnelTwo]

This Rage Mishima stuff is so intriguing

[@monelmonelmonel]

I think it's true

[@adrianosiciliano]

his name is rage... thats dumb even for fanfictions

[@ExValeFor]

@@adrianosiciliano unless they're mispronounced it and it's a Japanese pronunciation of 'ra-geh'

[@jenisia3600]

Factz

[@marbsphere]

​@charleshastings7260 damn this is so interesting, i want to believe 👽

[@Riftimmortal]

I was there in person for Evo when they did that with Snake - you should probably not play a hoax like that at an event where people are also expecting big announcements to their favorite games.

[@riewo]

Was there as well, it was super confusing I don’t even think tasty Steve knew about it

[@Riftimmortal]

@@riewo yeah he was taken off guard and laughed about it but I don't think he was in on the joke.

[@mordoandrigbonefacingforwa7611]

The Rage Mishima stuff was very interesting as well as them predicting stuff in SK like Kazuya’s scar. I wouldn’t be surprised if everything they said was real judging by how big the Tekken scene is there

[@Wolf99555]

lmao thank you for handling Leo so well, i was kinda dreading them coming up when i saw them on the chart but you dealt with the subject really well. great video over all, lot of stuff i never knew about!

[@Douphipp455]

Please elaborate more on this stuff!! This is so interesting and I think its a great thing for people new to tekken or joined in T7.

[@cinquedark5ivekamau800]

Raphael (Soul Calibur) who is rumored to be a vampire, is of the same family lineage as LiLi. Which is why she thinks Eliza, also a vampire, is her "sister".

[@Chamomileable]

"Why haven't Namco fixed the LOD?" Same reason Josie's mouth still doesn't move when she talks during her Rage Art

[@pkREX24]

glad I'm not the only one bothered by that

[@pepchekek]

That's because she had different rage art in arcade vanilla version, where lipsync actually matched animations, and then it was replaced possibly due to the fact that it was just a copy of Xiba's critical edge from SoulCalibur V

[@O_saBee]

They fixed it for season 2 but an update that happened shortly after removed it again lol

[@alfalfaanand6113]

@@O_saBee Yeah it's still there in season 4... Well i prefer bruce than her

[@mallow2902]

I wonder if mods can fix the LoD issues in T7. It's so weird how muddy some characters look in that game. Asuka and Kazuya in particular don't look right to me.

[@Minastir1]

One correction, kinjin means "goldman", just like mokujin is "woodman" and tetsujin is "ironman". it most likely refers to golden tetsujin

[@Whienzarth]

57:05 That stage looks like part of the Tekken 3 intro. The very start of the intro where you see some guy slam into a chain link fence (KO'd by Paul) The elements of that environment all looks very similar to that demo stage. Including the crowd, fence and a bridge with a train going over it.

[@PAINNN666]

Yeah. It's looks like omage to intrio.

[@hathedestroyer8637]

55:06 Also Chicago in Tekken 1 sampled "Loose!" by Prince. Super interesting because Prince hardly let people sample his music when he was alive.

[@PakistaniSenpai]

Hi, this video is well researched and made but I have to see that the lack of relevant visuals is so distracting. The ongoing tournament fights made it hard for me to focus on the speech.

[@skeleto46821]

That whole Rage Mishima thing is probably a prank made up by the guys brother. Back in those days people loved to make stuff up just to screw with their friends and relatives.

[@srankoutcast348]

24:30 Funny you bring this up because Yoshimitsu's Tekken story arc seems to be setting him up to eventually become a new nightmare. His sword is showing some of the same characteristics Soul Edge has shown.

[@urielz7554]

Two more examples of other music sampled in Tekken soundtracks: - Tekken 5 "Streets" seems to sample the Half-Life 1 credits theme - Tekken Revolution Moonlit Wilderness theme samples the song "Secrets" by Cahb Anyway, really interesting video! As another lifelong Tekken fan, I love watching content like this.

[@futer1987]

Honestly just the name Rage Mishima screams “made-up hoax character” Source: I used to make shit up all the time at the playground when I was a kid and that’s totally the kind of name I’d come up with

[@ababyharpseal6534]

There are two things I’d add to this, though they’re decently well-known in the community: 1. Gon the dinosaur is a licensed character from a manga (he never returned due to licensing issues). 2. Marduk is implied to be a rapist in his Tekken 5 story fight with Anna. Whether or not this is canon is unclear.

[@Sandartic]

Lili isn't exactly on the main story of the Digimon game. There's this battle tower with different levels where you challenge different people and you encounter her and Sebastian in different floors, till they both have mega digimons

[@WilfredCthulu]

Kazuya's arcade in Tekken 5 also suggests he understands English just fine.

[@edlerkrieger8045]

I mean, everybody in Tekken understands a forgein language for no reason.

[@CrystallizedBlackSkull]

Nah everybody just understands each other and I like that wierd charm

[@dimitrescu182]

Kazuya's Tekken 5 ending just shows him cradling a dying Jinpachi before his evil self takes over and kills Jinpachi with a punch.

[@WilfredCthulu]

@@dimitrescu182 Talking about the mid cutscene.

[@dimitrescu182]

@@WilfredCthulu oh yes that 'rival fight' with Raven. All Tekken characters somehow understand each other despite their different languages anyway.

[@supersmashlover926]

Bye I forgot Jin and Christie had a thing in The movie😭😭😭. I remember seeing it the first time as a kid and thought it just felt so wrong and out of place, also not to mention Jin had another girlfriend in that movie as well

[@FriedGamer]

Harada responded to someone on Twitter about Leo with “It’s a video game character”

[@IAmEnormous]

Would Devil Jin's slow, non-launching Wind God Fist qualify for the iceberg? It's such a weird move.

[@edlerkrieger8045]

Which game?

[@BlueGangsta_MX]

@@edlerkrieger8045 T6 TTT2 TR & T7. It's a bug they can't fix tho.

[@BlueGangsta_MX]

@@athleteexpert283 tl:dr No and no, because it could launch after the animation of the move is over. no. the problem is, that it this tchnique only works, If you press 2 at the last frame. If they fix that, the launching window of WGF/EWGF is longer than the animation of it, so it would launch, in actual recover state and that would literally be broken.

[@deerlow1851]

@@BlueGangsta_MX then why don't kaz and hei have this

[@BlueGangsta_MX]

@@deerlow1851 don't know about T7 cuz I never tried it, but they had in ttt2

[@marbsphere]

I need an entire nick robinson style video dedicated to rage mishima and that pre release t3/tag tournament arcade cabinet in korea

[@PassionWagonYT]

Golden Azazel actually has exactly the same stats as regular Azazel, the wiki lies outright about this. I have modded Tekken 6 in the past and played as both - they are the same. You can also find this out by letting both kill you and checking their damage outputs.

[@ibromsnt2412]

dude im gonna lose sleep over this rage mishima guy... i wanna know who the hell that is

[@kujo4388]

I’ve been waiting for this. The first tekken iceberg!

[@GreenChillZone]

Great video! The idea of a Mishima literally named Rage (not even a Japanese word for it, just straight up Rage) is funny to me for some reason. Some items that I think you should have mentioned: Paul’s Puzzle. I found this on the Wayback Machine while looking at the Tekken site from the time of 3. It was some sort of contest or something I think? Tekken 3 is slower in PAL Gon licensing issues preventing a rerelease Devil based on his Blood Vengeance appearance is a playable character in the TTT2 demo, but the final only has a Kazuya transformation. Heihachi was planned for Smash 4, but Sakurai couldn’t figure out how to translate him to Smash. He eventually went with Kazuya because the Devil Gene gave him more fitting gameplay. Cardboard Tube Samurai. A skin of Yoshimitsu as this Penny Arcade character was a preorder bonus for Tekken 6. Ogre is holding Jun’s severed head in the Tekken 3 intro. Yoshimitsu’s flash in Tekken 4 lets him replicate his opponent’s last used move, kind of like Kirby or XvSF Rogue. Heihachi was only added to Soul Calibur II because Namco couldn’t get the rights to add Cloud for the PS2 version. There is an unfinished character hidden in Virtua Fighter who bears a strong resemblance to prototype Jack. Since the devs of Tekken 1 worked on that game first, perhaps they were reviving unused ideas with the first game. Speaking of, Tekken ripped off Virtua Fighter. I’m not insulting the series, I’m just saying that whenever VF added sidestepping, variable terrain, or customization, Tekken was right behind them. Marduk is Gigas. Obviously untrue, but it was a popular theory before Marduk came to 7. Devil Jin in SCV as a custom character moveset. If I remember MainManSWE’s video, they even kept a glitch combo Jin had in 3. The Image comic that lasted one issue. King is based on the manga wrestler Tiger Mask as well as a real luchador, Fray Tormenta, who was also the inspiration for Nacho Libre. Devil Gene retcon. Originally Kazuya made a deal with the Devil, then it was retconned. Kazuya is a sneakerhead, according to the Tekken 1 manual. Rave War was originally announced to receive both a PS1 and PC port after the arcade version. Harada hates old women. There’s like ten old dudes in this series, but the women in the first two games were either frozen, killed, or retired before the time skip because apparently women in fighting games aren’t allowed to not be supermodels. I wanna see MILFchelle Chang dammit!

[@GreenChillZone]

I can’t edit on mobile so I’ll add this before I forget: Trans Kunimitsu. I doubt it’s canon, but Kunimitsu in Tekken 1 is referred to as male in her bio, as well as sporting a masculine build and reusing Yoshi’s voice clips. Godhand Mishima is a character from the Squaresoft fighting game Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring. Since the game was distributed by Namco in arcades, they made him a Mishima.

[@GreenChillZone]

@Nostalgic Person I don't think it's just a Japanese thing, either. How many elderly women do you see in Western games? Kreia in KotOR II, I guess? People are going to look at this comment and call me a SJW or whatever, but I just want to see variation here and there.

[@suiken3149]

Time trial with unlockable seems like a fun challenge. Much more refreshing than EVO. Heck, I suggest EVO should include these type of competition

[@ThatDumbBear]

This is EXACTLY what I wanted, I was begging for a good Tekken iceberg for ages! I didn't know SO MUCH, even at the very top. Goes to show how much u have to dig to find all the information. Now I wait for a miracle that is Soul Calibur iceberg, hopefully someone will make it one day.

[@Deep_wolf]

Kinjin in T4 isn't that surprising, here is why. Mokujin - wooden man, tetsujin - iron man, kinjin - golden man. You mentioned golden tetusjin in Tag 1 (who is kinjin basically), but they remade him for Revolution to actually stand out from regular metal silver man.

[@shareenear9344]

Remember how Wang also said "I want to be a stud!" in one of Tekken Tag 2 endings?

[@mikey0269_twitch]

One extra little thing I noticed from Tekken. In Tekken 4 and Tekken 5’s intro sequence Steve Fox is shown fighting in both a left handed and right handed stance in Tekken 4, while in Tekken 5 he is shown fighting in a left handed stance.

[@Biscord]

22:08 small correction, Daisuke Ono is not Heihachi's Tekken 6 voice actor, the actor that passed away was Unshō Ishizuka (R.I.P) and the possible reason why you could have mixed them up is because they are both main voice actors for the anime JoJo's Bizarre Adventure where Daisuke Ono plays the main lead (Jotaro Kujo) and Unshō Ishizuka plays one of the main leads (Joseph Joestar/Jotaro's grandfather)

[@suijin3129]

Addition, Daisuke Gori is the third voice actor for Heihachi from Tekken 3 all the way to Tekken 6 before he died ( I read that Daisuke Gori died from taking his own life due to his health complications.)

[@qazmko22]

The possible early build of Tekken Tag in Korea is fascinating

[@qazmko22]

1:07:00

[@jenisia3600]

Ikr

[@jenisia3600]

Bro those post from 97 forum was superb stuff. Need more of that, super interesting. Also i remember seeing betta pics of tekken tag 1 where Paul had his hair down ala T4

[@yeez13]

Rage Mishima sounds so oddly specific and very Post-Tekken 4-like, I wouldn’t doubt it was ever a thing in some developer’s custom ISO/MAME hack of Tekken 3. It’s most likely 100% fake, but it’s just so incredibly specific…you can’t help but to think Namco added some “special features” to their Location Test versions of the game. Especially since Tekken 4 was 3-4 years away, the description sounds like a variation of the then dead Kazuya but with embellishments on the leaker’s part. On a side-note, it’s extremely frustrating that Tekken x Street Fighter NEVER HAPPENED or might not ever happen by not. SF6 is proving that something like it IS POSSIBLE AND EVEN LIKELY TO BE A CROWD FAVORITE due to the compromise between hyper realistic characters and the “Capcom House Style” for their SF games making an interesting visual style. Imagine how TxSF would look if they try and make something very similar with the graphics style 🤔 They keep hinting at it “happening eventually”, so I won’t give out hope just yet. Crazier things have happened…like The Flash finally coming out last month (after 10+ years of hinting and development hell) and Skull & Bones (Assassin’s Creed 4 “gameplay spin-off”) finally coming out soon after 10 years…

[@destructo3457]

They had ton of problems balancing just 1 SF character into Tekken 7 which still is top tier after tons of nerfs, imagine something like 20 SF characters.

[@frankiex99_2ndchannel]

The Rage Mishima thing is fuckin crazy lol

[@Smashvillain]

Quick correction: Heihachi's second actor (and first to pass away) was Daisuke Gouri, not Daisuke Ono, who is thankfully very much alive and well, and also has never voiced in the Tekken series. Edit: Another one: Leo can equip female items in 7 as well. Notably the female Kung Fu top and the head items, such as the cat ears and tiaras. Also it's really cool that the most recent patch notes have gone the they/them route! 2nd edit: Sorry for one more! Just wanted to say this was a really fun ride going through some old, fun easter eggs. About the only one I'm shocked didn't make the list was Lili's and later Lars' Danver SUV in 6 tying the series to the Ridge Racer universe. Always loved the idea of a Namco Extended Universe, so that's always been a favorite. Anyways, would love to see more stuff like this in the future!

[@nobleman98]

I always heard Tekken 5's Poolside having two samples/ inspirations mixed in, one being Robert Miles children (fun fact this was also sampled for an xfiles remix by dado) and Alice Dj's Back in My Life! specifically the break in her song is used as the main tempo in Poolside.

[@Neogears1312]

Robert miles is apparently a big inspiration for fighting game osts because snk was also inspired by children when making Rock Howard’s theme.

[@aldrinmatosinos9460]

The "Fight 222 to Amsterdam" can also be heard in either Ridge Racers and Ridge Racers 2 on the PSP, NAMCO racing game franchise that came before Tekken. This can be heard if you entered in "World Tour" mode as you will be greeted with an airport silhouette.

[@mehmetjj9163]

I am a tiny little bit late but At 45:55 with leos gender in german It's not directly translated to lucky boy in german there is a thing called generic masculinum it refers to everybody even though the male version of the word is used for example student means Schüler but female student means Schülerin and to avoid complications and so on you use the generic masculinum to refer to all people

[@playmaker9186]

I think Rage Mishima and the characters mentioned that were cut in T3 prove that the tekken franchise until T5 had some story issues or time restraints. What if King's t3 p2 costume was actually AK's first design? What if Jin was made because Kazuya and Jun wouldn't fit into T3's story and so they decided to take their moves and fuse them into Jin's? What if Ogre sharss moves with many characters because they were scrapped? T3 sure has an interesting mistery surronding it's making.

[@chillguy6870]

We want another tag game period. Fuk the sales Tekken tag two was everything. !!!.

[@risingpheonix7740]

Shirdel: It's time to get CREEPY. Video: Bootlegs and guest appearances. although to be fair i'd be scared to play Heihachi in any physical capacity, including tennis.

[@Mikkomiks]

would have appreciated this video more if you just show the pics or small clips of what you were sharing rather than showing that background stream.

[@FIGHTERSCHOICEArcade]

7:38 yay!!! A screenshot of my tekken 5.1 kazuya arcade gameplay! That’s awesome! Awesome video btw!!!

[@dawsondebell1603]

"A shame that Lee didn't have a special animation" He just puts his glasses on without leaving the screen...*thinks about using it as a win taunt* EXCELLENT!

[@Ren_184]

I believe you mean Daisuke Gori, he was Heihachi’s VA. Daisuke Ono is a completely separate guy who is very much alive.

[@ManlyPlant]

Okay legitimately curious where you got that Tekken x Street Fighter footage as I haven't been able to find that

[@WTFHAX93]

I think Harada himself posted that on his Twitter around the Tag 2 times. I actually only just now noticed that Heihachi had Ryu's fighting stance and Nina used Chun-Li's fighting stance in that clip. I've seen the clip while it was originally posted but never noticed this detail.

[@FWZYoyo]

when I saw "Wang is a pervert" I honestly first thought of his P3 costume in Tekken 6 which closely resembled Master Roshi from DBZ

[@Unmazen]

I remember downloading combo videos from the Tekken FTP. Haven't thought about that in ages.

[@Soop_Time]

8:26 Dean Earwicker is in tekken 4 tekken force on the final stage. After the initial ambush it's one barrier away

[@sowhazupguy]

God im in love with that last one. It's everything i need in a rumor

[@mistermack4987]

I still remember printing Gamefaqs of Tekken moves. What you refer to as Triangle, Circle, X and Square, I still call 1, 2,3, and 4 because that's how the faq was written

[@usernamesmatter]

It’s always 1234

[@Poto2222]

The time has come! EDIT: *ONE FREAKING HOUR* JESUS CHRIST

[@xvgm24]

That Wang intro is pretty common knowledge.

[@JoystickV2]

Wait a second, Rage Mishima? Huh, it reminds me of the Super Best Friends character, Rage of Africa. *He was always there, the Rage was always watching* :V - V.D.

[@tuipulotulavaka1757]

2:00 This is my ringtone for texts and such and I kept getting confused 🤣🤣. Imagine getting mixed up watching a fighting game video and not actually playing it lmao.

[@ChainikVlad]

Man, that Rage stuff is just so much bollocks, I mean the name itself isn't really creative and that friend at Korea with unique arcade cabinet - I don't buy it at all, but internet at that time was so mysterious and with harder time finding evidence about facts in general - makes those rumors charming, reminds me of school time with how classmates came up with similar stupid stuff.

[@wigahiga500]

Nice video! I would like to specifiy about Akuma's jumping. Akuma's jumping only crushes lows at a certain frame of his jumping, I believe it was on the 5th frame. "3D" characters have the same thing but 2(?) frames later. His jumping and demonflip does not crush mids. His jumping evades mids and certain highs so it all comes down to the shape & size of the hitbox and timing. This is why he is able to jump over jabs in certain scenarios because characters have different jab hitboxes (height is also a factor). This is also why he can't jump over certain mids, because the hitbox for the mid is either really big or really high. So he does crush lows but he does not crush mids. Hopkicks are also pretty similar, they beat out lows at a certain frame of their animation and, depending on the character, can evade highs due to the character ducking really low but this will also depend on the hitbox size of the high.

[@wxrlord]

watching this makes me realise how much i’d love to see a Tekken Lost Media video.

[@Just_B]

Awesome video man! I had a magazine that had the tech demo stuff with Jin and Paul. Basically it had Paul P2 costume, Jin P1 costume, and the stage was the same as Paul's stage from the intro in Tekken 3

[@TiztasticallyWicked]

Rage might've became Jinpachi like I saw someone else say, but it's also possible that Rage became Lars.

[@BladedStrider]

55:10 Late addition, but the Synth portion of Night in motion by Cubic 22 can be heard in Tekken 1's Kyoto theme and Ganryu's Tekken 2 theme! Can usually hear it around the 1:30 or so make of Night in Motion

[@ZooberWezeeKenzan]

1:06:01 I always heard “ground, Sky, ???, snow, life, death, shade, those who go to heaven!” In the dragons nest song

[@poohhardy11]

Being on tekken zaibatsu since i was a youngin, i found out about most of this but holy shit dude. you still managed to educate me on a lot here

[@irishgerman98]

I wonder if Rage Mishima was supposed to be just the placeholder name for Jinpachi. I think it's quite possible that the idea for Jinpachi started during Tekken 3's development but never got fully realized until Tekken 5. I'm thinking the devs never came up with the name for this 3rd Mishima relative until Tekken 4 as there was an unused announcer voice line for Jinpachi as shown in the video. It's like they gradually built up Jinpachi starting from Tekken 3's development until Tekken 5 as each game went on, starting with just the basic concept/idea but no design for the character or even a name except for "Rage" (Tekken 3), then finally coming up with the character's real name (Tekken 4), and then designing the character itself (Tekken 5)

[@mordoandrigbonefacingforwa7611]

This could be true but I believe Jinpachi was mentioned in like the game manual of T1

[@joeylafrond2472]

Here is one I believe is true, but don't really have any proof to back it up. Lidia was supposed to be Akira Yuki. She fights just like him, and when asked if Virtua Fighter would have a guest spot in Tekken 7, Harada was welcoming to the idea and asked the community which Virtua Fighter they would like. Evidently, the deal fell through and with the recent boost to VF recently, it's easy to see why. So Namco just used those moves for a new character.

[@Szemigi]

I can confirm that I saw Tiger off-screen. It happened when I saw a kid (I think around 1998,1999 or 2000) started playing Tekken 3 on arcade machine, then he went off-screen and Tiger was there. His portrait's bg color was yellow and his portrait was facing straight (like True Ogre's).

[@Gazzoosethe1]

He has a portrait in the character select?

[@Szemigi]

@@Gazzoosethe1 He had, when I saw that happening in that year.

[@Gazzoosethe1]

@Szemigi thing is i selected him via mame cheats some time ago but he has no portrait, like he has a blank one and the default eddy P2 model

[@Nowndie]

3:38 It looked cool, it matched the 3D style

[@DaedricNZ]

On the topic of crushing: There's only high and low crushing in Tekken. This makes you completely invincible to highs or lows respectively during the crush frames. There's no such thing as mid crushing, but some evasive moves can _evade_ mids. This is not the same as being invincible to mids, as it's just a matter of hurtboxes avoiding hitboxes. Mids that have a beefier or lower hitbox can still hit evasive stances or moves.

[@Theohybrid]

Definitely makes me think rage Mishima is Jinpachi. I mean, he's angry and has Michigan techniques.

[@Invader.Xim.]

Mishima from Michigan 🥶

[@yoruzeruel5009]

Regarding Leo: I wish fans could just accept what the literal creator stated, according to Harada, Leo is Leo, that's it. It's the same with Bridget in GGST, Daisuke flat out confirmed her gender and people will still debate it. It's great to have characters like Leo and Bridget who are great examples of representation, but people will always try to bring them down.

[@chidori7234]

Great video. Tho it's quite impressive that I happen to already know most of these things, even the ones on the very bottom (I already knew that Wang had perverted pre fight animations a long time ago, in fact I'd go as far as to say that it should be pretty much somewhat common knowledge rather than a very obscure thing imo). I used to be really into Tekken back then. Still am today, but not as much. Flexing aside, there were definitely some things I didn't know. The Rage Mishima part was definitely the most intriguing. And while most of the statements there can be easily brushed off as made up, there still could be some truth in it (like you said Kazuya and the scar below his eye). It's either Namco originally intended a very different direction for Tekken 3 back then but was later scrapped, or maybe time constraints and or the thing that these characters may contradict the whole premise of Ogre supposedly killing everyone. But then again, who knows if that premise was really their original intention from the very beginning or if they actually intended something very different initially. It's really interesting I remember reading a theory back then somewhere on Tekkenpedia that Jun, Angel, and Unknown were the same person. And no, this isn't made up on my part. I remember reading such a theory about it somewhere on Tekkenpedia (idk if that particular article is still around tho). What I remember is that apparently, Angel was to take form with Jun as part of her intention to save Kazuya. It also talks about how Jin's devil form had black angel wings, and the white feather that appeared on his Tekken 4 ending, referencing it to Angel apparently. If that theory made it to the video it would definitely be on the very bottom (Update: I think it's this one eng.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/User_talk_Teriko/. If the link doesn't work just Google "tekken theories tekkenpedia", it's still up there, or at least for me)

[@uristmccheeselove1019]

Robert Miles was also sampled for Rock Howard's theme in Garou Mark of the Wolves too, that exact same song too I think. It's just one of those that everyone loves to steal. Anyways. really interesting video, personally I think Twisted Tekken was just some kid having fun making stuff up. I mean, come on, "Brother stationed in Korea" is like the Namco version of "my uncle works for Nintendo".

[@robbyrobot3303]

They took out the 3D backgrounds in Tekken 3 to put it on the ps1

[@RyanMarcel_]

Man... I would kill to play with Rage Mishima... I absolutely loved Jin's moveset in T3-TTT. But then he changed to the Kazama style*? idk. I know Devil Jin is suposed to have the old moveset, but... its not the same man... i tried to play with kazuya too, not my jam.

[@alialmutawa2405]

As far as I remember , the realistic Jin render for T6 and jin vs Lili trailer were from totally different events

[@cadsy3394]

"How deep does it go?" there are no words honestly to describe how much lore there is that you just don't even expect

[@hayond656]

5:55 "to help infiltrate a criminal organization called..." (Twitch logo appears on screen) Ngl I actually thought that was what it was called for a sec

[@eenayeah]

I can't believe people actually make "videos" like this without even showing what the hell they're talking about. Literally just taking a SINGLE video from ANOTHER channel and slapping on audio commentary. What the hell.

[@GoldenDragonMonkey]

Rage probably got reused and revamped as Jinapchi or Lars. Or maybe we haven’t seen him and he’s still out there

[@puchatektv]

Maybe Rage was just Jinpachi's beta name consider he was supposed to appear(or be playable) in tekken 4, and the fact that Jinpachi is possessed in tekken 5 by some demon makes me feel that it was rather him instead of Lars. But there's one thing: in this video is mentioned that rage/beta jinpachi was supposed to have heihachi and kazuya moves, but in his playable tag 2 apperance he only uses Heihachi's headbut throw(like the other mishimas can do if they're partnered), so you teory could be true in some way

[@MrSuperman216]

I need a mix of the background music as a sole hour long mix. It's fantastic 👍

[@nozuchan]

About the tekken 6 arcade stick there's more to it than it does if I'm not mistaken. Aris (avoidingthepuddle) talked about it how it sucks because when people use it on tournaments , it would pair with other device instead or sometimes caught other devices input (since it's a wireless stick). So everyone in the tournament got their matches f'd up Also how the stick quality is ass

[@takezokimura2571]

Rage Mishima could also be Devil Jin, which makes his only appearance in T3 Jin's ending.