Dignics 09C vs Tenergy 05 | With Dimitrij Ovtcharov

What's going on guys, today I'm joined alongside the German table tennis beast Dimitrij Ovtcharov! In this video we compare the new Dignics 09C to Tenergy 05.
Find out Dima's thoughts on Butterfly's new tacky rubber and on how he thinks it compares to Tenergy 05.
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[@TableTennisDaily]

Dima seems to be buzzing lately... Tokyo 2021 contender? Who's your money on? 🔥

[@reecetowe6520]

I reckon harimoto vs fan zhendong in the final i think dima will get bronze again

[@ryanoandreastandayu2034]

Lin Yun Ju

[@gorillaxy4459]

Dima vs xu xin final

[@srdante100]

harimoto vs ma

[@teguhh14]

I think there will be a very good surprise at Tokyo 2021. Harimoto, Dima/Timo, CNT will get the medal, but not so sure who will get the gold.

[@anyfin9277]

Ovtcharov is very good at commenting and reviewing equipments

[@derekandriesian1631]

Agreed, he is more into the equipment than alot of pro's it seems

[@TableTennisDaily]

Yeah he loves it! He knows so much it was great to pick his brains and share it with you 💪

[@reecetowe6520]

His blade review had every detail

[@umajain2715]

@@TableTennisDaily yo play best table tennis I have ever seen Amazing game

[@patrickkyle7311]

e sabe gemer tb kkkk

[@xenzomi1321]

The real question is: how much does the moaning increase the spin?

[@blueheart9873]

A 200% increase probably

[@nazrultebu4781]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sadikijeje4161]

😂😂😂

[@themorethemerrier281]

It's tiresome for our ears but I'm pretty sure it increases his consistency.

[@Nikola-sl6ep]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ivicapavic3381]

Had to mute the video cause my parents thought I was watching a porno.

[@yadayadayada6351]

wow no one has ever made that joke before ever

[@umajain2715]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jortjanson6349]

Haha

[@crazy3rdgen]

Same!!! Unreal

[@djatimulia9624]

Same..

[@vaynex7944]

7:11 that voicecrack made me laugh too much xDDDDDDD

[@jona6676]

Saaaammmmee😂😂😂

[@lsfhd9032]

It was such a long voice crack too bro I died 😂😂😂😂

[@Fakeslimshady]

and if you do LESS!

[@ml-ei3nz]

There is the proof that Dima is actually younger than Harimoto

[@basketgoal1043]

and if you do it *LeSs*

[@tonyilias2561]

Dimitrij's voice was getting super high pitched lmao. I'm not sure if he was doing it on purpose or if it was just voice cracks, but it was kinda entertaining to hear. Super solid player for sure though

[@MikkelBT]

Around 7:10. Honestly couldn’t stop laughing xD

[@TableTennisDaily]

I think it's his passion coming through when he speaks

[@MikkelBT]

TableTennisDaily definitely

[@leonawroth2516]

It wouldn't surprise me if it's a result of his screaming and groaning while playing. Probably his vocal cords are under constant stress and that's why his voice is always breaking and coarse.

[@qwertyiscoolmungel]

@@TableTennisDaily yeh can really hear how motivated he is, like a boy in a toy shop! quality!

[@rotarucristi2351]

In 5 years: Butterfly Dignics 69DVD, it's revolutionary, no timing or angle needed, it just works!

[@benjaminpride5259]

Ahahahha

[@zoltanzoltan303]

Suddenly is not the same quality anymore.

[@quinndavis6374]

I clicked on this so fast when I saw it. The best reviews are always with Dima. Looking forward to more awesome content soon. TTD rules

[@TableTennisDaily]

Tons more content going out over the next month stay tuned 🔥🔥🔥

[@inyourface123]

Didn't know Dima was so good with penhold and particularly RPB. Really amazing skills!

[@TableTennisDaily]

Crazy right! 😅

[@tabletennisbrack]

I really like the fact that Dima showed more personality in this vid-like usual top stuff bro

[@TableTennisDaily]

Thanks dude! 💪💪💪

[@shazman1341]

Maybe you should tell him to tell butterfly to DROP the price!!!!

[@fraer111]

Dignics is already cheaper in usage because it is much more durable than Tenergy.

[@artaz899]

Pro players will buy it even at double the price , the rest can play with a shoe .

[@fraer111]

@@artaz899 pro players have contracts and get rubbers for free.

[@ahareally]

@@fraer111 just for the record: it costs 80EUR for ONE side?

[@fraer111]

@@ahareally if you change tenergy every 2 months, then you will change dignics every 4 months. You pay €20 per month instead of 25.

[@meklon5]

Ok, best quote of Dima - BTY advertising will be happy: "Dignics 09C - it's about the hard balls!"

[@kasekeksdeluxe6529]

I'm moaning like Dima here, bying butterfly rubbers every year.

[@tampabaytabletennis]

This was an excellent comparison with a *WORLD CLASS* player. I believe that Dignics 09c is as revolutionary a rubber as Tenergy 05 was (I wasn't there) and represents a large step forward. The 09c opens up so many different possible shots due to the grippy surface, high throw angle, and the sponge (hard, yet springy when spinning, and has the feeling of holding onto the ball - as Dima referenced). I find it amazing for backhand flicks, although a little challenging to play forehand flicks (maybe more my own limitation). However, anytime you spin the ball with 09c you feel what it is truly capable of. The long trajectory causes some balls to fly long and requires a more closed angle and forward stroke plane when compared to Tenergy 05 (and most other rubbers in my experience). Flat shots like smashes are not nearly as deadly as with T05 and require adjustments, but the ability to keep the ball short or spin from low or wide more than makes up for it IMO. The biggest point presented in this video that made me try 09c and that I agree with, is that less is more with T05, whereas more is more with Dignics 09c. At 50% power, T05 is already unlocking a lot of its power, whereas at 80-90% there is not a linear increase in power/spin but the chance of mistakes increases. Whereas with 09c, 40-50% is a medium fast/spinny ball and 80-90% is an absolute fireball. Sometimes it seems like the harder you hit the ball when counter-spinning, the better chance it has to go in. The durability seems to be incredible as well. I used to think Dignics 09c was the more challenging rubber relative to T05, but I do not believe that is the case anymore. Love the 09c and this review. Thanks!!!

[@alligatoruno6975]

"Its only game, why you heff to be mad?" - Dima

[@1946FreddieMercury]

I quit playing table tennis several year ago, just play on occasionally now for fun now. I've used tenergy 05 the last few years (tried all of the tenergy range, including the fx versions) but I think I'll try the Dignics 09C, time to switch rubbers anyways. Also got a lot more respect for Dimitrij here (not that I was lacking any), it was fun to see a pro player be so interested in new gear and give their opinions on it.

[@financialliberty2381]

My god, dan has improved so much for the last 12 months 😮😮 Incredible, keep it going

[@ping_pong_polomarco968]

Dima im Stimmbruch?😂

[@XxGuTixXps3]

Would be absolutely fantastic an Innerforce ALC layer blade review with Dima

[@JimmyOlsson]

Ovtcharov seems to be a great guy! Eager to share his knowledge with energy and a smile on his face! :)

[@TableTennisDaily]

Yeah hes a top guy Jimmy. So much passion!

[@rakishman1313]

Well, Dan firstly, I do believe dignics09c is a better fit for your game and i believe you d appreciate the rubber more than Tenergy 05. Tenergy 05 is good if you have an amazing technic on short stroke and ability to extract a lot of power in short moves. I ll be honest , I do not see that when you hit the ball with Tenergy on. Dignics on the other hand will force you to use more mechanical power and a longer stroke when you hit (especially in the forehand) It will give you a lot more control and when you give the full stroke it will be winners as well. Consistency-wise Dignics 09c has a tone more control than tenergy than .5 on your ratings. 09c is a killer weapon and I believe a lot of players are realizing it and will realize soon. Both good rubbers but on match points you d rather get more consistency than killer shots that would be off 30 40 percent of the time off the table. Dimitrij is world class and always fun to watch .

[@SteveSoper1979]

awesome video. appreciate the technical differences you & dima discussed i the game. A lot of good info. thanks.

[@lennartgoetz8744]

I am from Germany and i really lile dima but his screaming is just so disturbing

[@AZHOLEN1]

Tomokazu Harimoto "bruh!"

[@skipondowntheroad5833]

@@AZHOLEN1 Harimoto only screams AFTER the point, while Ovtcharov is moaning loudly during the whole rally. Both extremely irritating.

[@AZHOLEN1]

@@skipondowntheroad5833 true, lol

[@xenomorph3168]

Nice to see you again😃💪🏻

[@kariboz7993]

"I use six shirts for practice!" Dima is such a genuine guy fr 😂

[@purujitaggarwal4582]

Top class review great to see you working with a player like dima to review and compare 2 amazing rubbers. I myself am planning to get the 09c as soon as I can

[@TableTennisDaily]

Thanks Purnijit yeah Dima sure knows his stuff. Its great to share it with you 😀

[@VietnamCrew]

07:09 Dima turns into mickey mouse for a minute hahaha i love him great guy and great player!

[@smiley5ize]

That was really fun to watch! Wish I had 10% of Dima’s skills.

[@gustavosuenaga]

8:20 - dayum that rpb thooo

[@spicychicken1609]

Wang Hao is proud

[@urnxtfling]

You're playing visibly better Dan, your backhand has definitely improved!

[@financialliberty2381]

His FH flips have improved massively as well Actually I don't even remember him hitting FH flips before in his previous videos

[@mathematechxblackboard1942]

If I am not mistaken, Dignics 05 is supposed to be a successor of Tenergy 05. At least that is how butterfly marketed the Dignics, a step up to Tenergy series. So I was surprised that you compared Tenergy 05 with the Dignics 09C. Shouldn't it be Dignics 05 vs Dignics 09C? Like what is more on 09C that could be "lacking" from Dignics 05 that butterfly decided to add the 09C to the dignics series?

[@najlepszefilmyopsychopatac8565]

Dan you play very agresive with dima, always your games with popular players is passive and slowly now i watch your amazing shots.🔥

[@TableTennisDaily]

Haha yes I'm trying to change my game. Need to adapt to the aggressive plastic ball era 😅💪

[@mlee4815]

7:55 that spin is CRAZY!

[@faruk8074]

Maybe another video with timo comparing dignics05 vs 09c ?

[@ralphtime8365]

And dignics 80 vs. 09c

[@TableTennisDaily]

Neat yeah that would be cool 💪🔥

[@wb6012]

@@TableTennisDaily could you sometimes do video for Revoldia CNF?

[@andreika6681]

what earplugs would work better against ovcharov, harder ones or softer ones ?

[@chaleeerain3345]

Still waiting with anything you can review with Ma Long. Haha. Coz I really wanna see how beastly he is.

[@infinitt4619]

exactly

[@329salamander]

More and more I like this boy (Ovtcharov) both for his personality with the serves and for the hard work he does and the blows he gets, he is the example that hard work gives he also seems polite and noble to me. I have 2 woods with his name that are 2 of my favorites. Good video

[@TableTennisDaily]

Yeah he grafts thats for sure. I feel like he's super eager to begin playing events again. He seems in very good shape

[@maxfactorone]

Brilliant review... Many thanks 😊

[@leostamp9190]

Cracking Vid yet again Dan. Dima one hell of a nice bloke. Real genuine. Respect 😀🏓❤️

[@bartvchopsuey]

Thank you Dima 😍😍😍😍 I love the way you explain the characteristics and qualities of dignics 09c . as timo boll says it is for all ❤❤❤ im decided. .. I will change my rakza 7 to dignics 09c and probably next my glayzer to dignic 05 on my donic Diablo senso

[@LGTableTennis]

Dima seems like a great guy. Plus Dan is on fire here!

[@manuelali4279]

Can you do a video review of the Dignics 09C vs Tenergy 80 ? Thanks!

[@IHadToChooseThis1]

Oh a Dima Video... here I go lowering the volume again :'D

[@nicolasgrueso8190]

Ovtcharov when plays: groants like a bear, ovtcharov when talks to danny, high pitch voice*

[@nicolasgrueso8190]

100% agree with u mate

[@connorpowell9894]

YES! I’ve been so exited for this

[@TableTennisDaily]

💪💪💪

[@baritto16]

Buen vídeo le hago una consulta Tengo una pala Patric Francisca Zlc con gomas Tenergy 05 Fx y Tenergy 05 Pero la encuentro un poco rápida algunas pelotas c me van fuera de mesa. ? Crees que si cambio a dignic 09 C será un poco más lenta y. Más manejable la raqueta un poco más de control. Gracias de antemano

[@itsanew9213]

will be interesting to compare the 09c with the dignics 05.

[@Amsfxyz]

Do you feel the ball and contact(feedback) more with T05 as compared to 09c or Hurricane 3?

[@emmaginn]

"The first one and a half meters it's slower, and then it gets faster" -Dima Uhhh, the laws of physics would like a word with you.

[@adihakim4663]

Not sure if it is correct or not, i might be wrong though, if you're talking about laws of physics, based on what dima said is that the first 1.5 metre is because of the dwell time of the ball soaking on the rubber, which results in high potential energy stored from the body weight transfer of him to the ball, so after the ball leaves the contact with the topsheet of the rubber, it will result in a bit slower transition power from the body weight to the ball but resulted in higher kinetic energy on the aftermath. Which is why we see the chinese players have so much power on their shots which have similar characteritics for their hurricane rubbers too. Whereas for tenergy it will be vise versa. Because the spring sponge effect makes it harder to grasp the dwell time of the ball on the topsheet compared to the dignics 09c, which resulted in lower potential energy, thus, proves what he said that at 1.5 metres tenergy is faster but then it goes slower..

[@AntonyWarmbold]

@@adihakim4663 I think Dima knows what he means but he is using wrong words to describe the effect. What he says makes no sense from physics stand point.

[@adihakim4663]

@@AntonyWarmbold in what kind did he said wrong? I think he might be right...but he's just explaining in layman's term..i just explained in technical term..probably either i explained it wrongly or maybe dima..but still i dont see the wrong..probably you can give me some insight..just maybe you are right if you can really explain the wrong..haha..would like to learn from your perspective too..🙂

[@AntonyWarmbold]

@@adihakim4663 if it starts slow and then goes faster after 1,5m then there must be a force applied after contact. So what is it? I can only imagine it's magnus effect from very high rate of spin. Otherwise there is nothing in physics to explain what he said. Also he says 09c is softer rubber than Tenergy 05. It's strange because other sources says it's harder.. So one can also wonder if his 09c is the same as the rubber sold to general public.

[@adihakim4663]

@@AntonyWarmbold yeah you're right about magnus effect, didn't touch about that in my previous comment, its true, it does affect the speed...because the difference in rotation that is given for both rubbers if you use it at its best..back then tenergy is really good..but now like dima said 09c is more better..when he talks about neutralizing spin like he play xu xin..he was talking about that magnus effect actually..and because of that difference in dwell time between those rubbers it makes a huge difference in how much rotation you can impart to the ball..which results the difference between them..and about the hardness, i think its well known fact already that 09c is much harder then tenergy..but the difference is that the top sheet of 09c is tacky..which makes it more grip and the ball stays longer..also more easier to control the amount of spin you put on the ball or when you want to counter the types of spin the opponent put..cause its less sensitive than tenergy..i agree with you..all the way..many factors to consider really..you can produce with different amount of spin..but to put power its another aspects of it..you can get a wide range from high speed bola with no rotation at all to high amount of spin with slow speed..and also vice versa..which results in power of those shots..

[@TheMiyu21]

Hi, can you tell me when the rubber wears out does it feel to the touch? I understand that they change over time but do you feel like touching the rubber? Thank you

[@arthuryunzal2781]

Durability?

[@leostamp9190]

Awesome Dan!!! Old Dima was getting all squeaky out of breath!! Top effort!! Always a fan of TTD!!! First training on 8th Sept!!! Can’t wait!!!!!

[@dareksz1]

Very nice episode 🤩

[@drpuma19]

Dann you.!!!!...great video.By the way you play amazing quality shots+blocks.

[@jstiga7360]

Great review Dan.Thx!!

[@TableTennisDaily]

Thanks for watching Joel 💪🏓

[@jstiga7360]

@@TableTennisDaily Im eagerly awaiting your comparison of the Dignics 09 / DHS Hurricane National blue sponge.I saw the one you did on the orange sponge.I use orange on my forehand and T05 on my background.At times I do with that the forehand rubber was a bit quicker.So waiting to see your analysis of the national version to see if that may be an option or simply invest in D09 which is quick tacky but quicker than the DHS options.

[@murtuzaarbaz2321]

nice review and dima is just phenomenal, now can we explore a bit more with rubbers, we have yasaka rakza Z, vega X, xiom omega series, joola dynaryz, rasanter r53 compared with each other and variety of rubbers.

[@ragpaoa10]

Table Tennis Rubber review for Butterfly Aibiss? Very curious on how TTD assesses Butterfly’s hardest rubber.

[@ags4058]

This the best review ,i ever know... good host.. thank you..

[@MMStudios10]

You guys gotta do more table tennis trick shot videos!

[@VANIQZ7171]

i had to laugh so hard at 7:11 omfg... haahhaha

[@santiagodelgadillo698]

Nice review! Thx TTD team

[@toobalkain]

OK, thank you, but can it still be said Tenergy 05 on one side, Tenergy 80 on the other would be a better choice for an intermediate amateur?

[@D4N1011011]

Dan, what equipement do you use and why?

[@bfeld26]

Can I put Tenergy 05 on forehand side and Dignick 09c on backend side? Does it make sense? Thanks for your answer

[@joezakhia6539]

Yes I plày it that way.

[@paddlepong2135]

I would like to know how heavy his blade is. Heavy blades hit harder but can hinder arm movements. I wonder what weight top level pros prefer?

[@sbastian9]

Cool review.. after watcing this,more people will buy Tenergy 05 and Dignics 09c, even the price quite expensive, but it's worth. Thanks to Dan and Dima

[@oscarcornejo6615]

"it's all about the hard balls" gets me every time

[@generaliroh842]

Lmao

[@poojaagarwal2209]

Hi dan ! Can you please do a review of the yasaka alnade blade . It would be wonderful.

[@1407pooja]

Ya the alnade blade is very good . I also Wanted a review of it .

[@markusneumann4257]

4:00 exactly the reason why all chinese players play dhs hurricane 3.. for years now. and factory boosted like the pros play it, it is even better then everything you can find in europe/rest of the world..

[@marwanhassoun8964]

Can you tell us your opinion about the “Stiga Focus 5 stars” racket?

[@backspacer92]

Dan, can we get a training camp series where you try to improve your forehand stroke because it's lacking power? And thanks for the new video.

[@sajad9384]

Hey Dan, you have talked about being aware of your opponent when playing in order to catch them out during the rally. However, I find it hard to be aware of my opponent. Do you have any tips, or can you make a video regarding this topic? Thanks A Lot :)

[@The_Paddle_Smith]

7:11 what happened to Dima's voice

[@thisisfatherhood6696]

Can you compare the Hurricane 8-80 to this new Dignics O9C?

[@adq8443]

Why most people play Black Side on FH? Why not play red side on fh? Is there any difference between red and Black side?

[@HipRob85]

5:25 What Dima says, is worth for everyone who is thinking about his rubber.

[@fredriksigeman]

09C VS Rakza Z?

[@subhasischattopadhyay3157]

It's a excellent question. I believe you will never get a response on that from TTD. You may get it from other chanel in youtube. It's there. Appreciate it.

[@tommasogaetani7964]

Pls dan review the xiom vega intro. is it good for beginners?

[@kaungsethtun3071]

May I know the how long does your 09c last? how often do you/have to change it. I'm intending to use on my fh side but still figuring the balance between it's price and longevity since it is pricy. Thanks in advance :)

[@Equaaz]

Rakza Z is almost the same for half of price.

[@TT-Freak]

Does Dima have some sort of a minor french accent here? He sounded differrently if I recall correctly.

[@masterchief8646]

I changed to dignics recently and for me it was an absolute game changer. Way better control than with the tenergy series. Absolute beast in service and return. But you need a good and full motion technique. Some players I know really hated the 09c because they rely on the catapult effect from the tenergy series a lot.

[@masterchief8646]

The Dignics is the closest rubber ever to a perfectly boosted DHS Hurricane 3 national. But without the variety in quality and without the need to booster it, straight up one of the biggest achievements ever in table tennis rubber development

[@roy1299]

I think it has something to do with stroke also. Most euro players use short stroke which baffles me as a spectator while the chinese uses long stroke combined with flick for longest time since liu

[@TheUnmistakableMan]

For a second I thought Dima is the second coming of Wang Hao XD That was ridiculously good haha

[@johey3958]

It would be great if you could review the new DHS-Nittaku Hurricane 3 turbo blue. It seems to be really popular right now

[@wb6012]

Review for Revoldia CNF

[@rockys7726]

Sounds to me Dignics is basically like Hurricane. Slower sponge but sticky top sheet. I'm sure the manufacturing is much more consistent but what's the big deal in performance?

[@zdanni8183]

he needs to stop moaning. Im just trying to watch a good table tennis video here and my room mate thinks im watching xx videos...

[@johnnyp7455]

Something I have always wondered was why do some players only put side tape on parts of the racket and not the whole thing can someone explain for me

[@timstopfer7485]

They put it only on the sude where they might gonna touch the table and ruin a rubber with a push

[@patmer2087]

Pros are using it cuz they have enough power to launch the ball as fast as T05 unlike us mere mortals!

[@eliasjohansson8845]

I have aibiss on forehand and dignics 09C on backhand. Can you do a review on aibiss please

[@craigboog]

Great review

[@michikatsutsugikuni3098]

is this arag center? kinda looks like it

[@user-rb9ix9sl1n]

Does it fit butterfly viscaria fl?

[@rashadalmilad]

How does it compare to T05 fx ?

[@angelodomorozo5561]

The neighbors probably think im watching some getting shagged hardcore by the sound of ovtcharov’s grunts!!

[@omeroztekin3632]

Which Dimitrij Ovtcharov played? 09v or 05 ?

[@nadoleanu1]

I think that Butterfly made a T05 with Dignics logo for Dima and Timo, just for marketing. What did you think about this?

[@KarthikVenkataraman]

Can you please review the Joola Dynarz rubbers (ACC and AGR) please

[@moppi4921]

Hey Dan, I‘m from germany. Can you take a video to the new Butterfly Aibiss?

[@zoltanzoltan303]

But is bot the same anynore no? Before was much nore tacky and less spin responsive

[@jram3917]

Awesome video bro. Quality as usual. I tried 09C and I really liked it. But after trying the new Rakza Z I have to say that the Rakza Z is better. You should try that one. A lot of brands are going hard sponge with sticky surfaces now.

[@mrjek4071]

Hi Jonathan. I am considering Rakza Z as 09c is out of my budget. Can you please explain more why Rakza Z is better?

[@jram3917]

@@mrjek4071 It is great quality, it is even more sticky. It's feels a bit harder than 09c. If you like soft rubbers it might not be for you. But it's very easy to return short and to do counterloops. Of course this is an advanced rubber, reactive to spin so you need to understand what is coming. Once you adjust your stroke to have more forward motion (because it's needed) you will feel you you can put spinier, faster and lower balls on the other side.

[@Resistor-u7e]

It absorb a lot, and feels bit slow

[@43DAEMON]

I played Rakza Z FH and Rakza Z Hard on BH, Now Neo 3 blue 41/2.15 Fh and D09C on Bh and Dignics is for me better as Rakza Z in long therm.