Commander Gameplay:Gavin Verhey vs Olivia Gobert-Hicks vs Dana Fischer vs Blackneto

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[@Minedeleis]

Olivia: i'm a monster Dana: hold my non alcoholic beverage

[@hotdogladywooldridge4182]

Exactly!

[@tariqmaketab595]

No one expects the Spanish Primal Surge

[@varlmorgaine3700]

"oh they have a youngling with them, so cute good to see that they teach younger generations mtg" 15 minutes later " that little monster is dangerous °_°"

[@bashlindsay7618]

I don't care about the mistakes made in the game, I just here to watch a awesome fun game of Commander and that's it, watching for mistakes, not even on my list of priorities for watching commander games.

[@Mattador666]

Great games! It was really fun to watch. I was not expecting Dana to pop off so quickly. Really glad y’all ran it back though.

[@jeremyv3470]

Never seen you guys use these type of effects and edits. Really enhanced the production in a unique way.

[@justinorman8608]

God damn. I lol’d when Gavin said ‘play it out’

[@fickle3532]

Dana casting her whole and decking herself out is hilarious.

[@NickLyttle]

Damn - that Table Top Jock's mat Olivia is using is fantastic. Super cute and fun art, love the style of all the magic content creators and friends. As always great pod, super fun people - keep up the awesome work TTJ.

[@makeout-hill]

yeah I'mma need to buy that playmat

[@TabletopJocks]

I wish our playmats were still on sale. I gotta figure out a better vendor for them!

[@NickLyttle]

@@TabletopJocks definitely would scoop one. If you're ever back in Michigan, bring some back with ya and i'll scoop one off ya at Eternal Games in Warren or something.

[@josiahtoole4376]

I like how Gavin seems actually pretty disappointed Joe isn’t running the Meld combo. Like, “Dude, I designed this awesome thing where two cards become one card and it’s amazing, and… It’s not good enough for Joe.” 😂😂😂

[@tyleryoakum8350]

My playgroup needs to know when will we see Joe's Samut vs Posty's Zur vs Cassius' Urza vs Kyle's (Hill) Narset. We need the heat, we need the absurdity of that pod to happen😩🔥🔥🔥

[@joehenderson1]

I appreciate y'all. Thank Blackneto for being YOU. Cheers mate!

[@blaze556922]

Dana is so sharp and displays a lot of maturity for her age. Awesome to watch and I hope we see her on more episodes

[@DeadBodyMan]

Oh man… The fitted D… 😮 Joe used to start the videos by saying “whatupdoe” and I was like… “i wonder if he’s from my hometown?” but now I know…. 😭 one of the MTG homies from back home made it in the big time! Keep going, bro! Don’t ever stop!

[@TabletopJocks]

Born and raised in Flint town! Love to see it!

[@DeadBodyMan]

@@TabletopJocks I went to school in Flint and worked automotive before moving to Cali. We used to love a Flint Town hip hop group called Dayton Family back in those days. 😂 Keep rising! We’re all cheering for you!

[@TabletopJocks]

@@DeadBodyMan wait, you in Cali now? We gotta get a game in!

[@DeadBodyMan]

Alright. As of Today, I’m your newest Patreon. We gotta show this flag. 😂 Maybe I’ll see you on the discord. If you’re in The Bay for anything or if we make it to LA, I hope to shake your hand someday. You can even roll over one of my janky decks if it works out sometime. 🤣 your vids are all fire!

[@TabletopJocks]

@@DeadBodyMan appreciate all the love and support! This is what I’m talking about! We gotta support one another! We all we got! I’ll be in the Bay soon too I’ll hit you up! Also every Thursday we do Commander day in the discord so hop in there for some spelltable games! Let’s definitely link! 🙌🏾

[@logu0004]

Little disappointed Olivia isn't running an Alt version of light paws with her puppy on there. ( I know he's a fox)

[@andrehall23]

ONE BONE BROKEN FOR EVERY TWIG SNAPPED UNDER FOOT! All hail the Queen of the Elves! Dana Fischer

[@CptnHowdy2475]

I hate ads but god the Dockside screech is hilarious 😂😂

[@urza4282]

Funny you mentioned DCI numbers - I still have my DCI card!

[@Hemlocker]

Gavin and Dana is such a great combo

[@dylandehart5246]

This is a good example of why, when someone "goes infinite" you make them show you how.

[@InfinityKrompt]

Dana is spending too much time around Olivia. She heard "Inside of you there are two monsters" and instead went "But what if there is only one monster, and its a hoard of elves?"

[@xelamorphic]

I know you've had it for a bit but that intro sequence with the mystical archive cards is hot

[@bashlindsay7618]

Been looking forward to this episode, its going to be awesome

[@isaiahwelch8066]

Just a clarification, but Gift attached to Light-Paws works like this: If Light-Paws dies and goes to the 'yard, it immediately comes back. Gift doesn't come back until EOT -- which means that if you kill Light-Paws a second time, and it goes back to the Command Zone or stays in the 'yard, at EOT Gift won't move from the 'yard since it's original creature isn't on the battlefield.

[@ajh12123]

Great episode as always! Dana could've gotten the second win too with Primal Surge as it says you "may" put it on the battlefield. She could've stopped exiling cards at anytime. It was cool to see it play out though!

[@ryankelly1246]

Yea she had the cards looking at that decklist to easily win stoping even at 10 left in library. But I get the greed. She really needs to add a Aether Flux Res and a Staff of Domination. Gives her another way to go inf mana and another way to win off the life payout. Plus add in primal surge and now you got 3 wincons you can stop at it your too worried about mill be it self inflicted or not.

[@chevin0]

I'm mad at Dana, now I want to rebuild Primal Surge Omnath! Seriously though, seeing her hit it two games in a row was amazing

[@stevenjohnson7529]

Epic 1st win Dana

[@ZypherWildfire]

Awesome game! I love seeing other elf decks and how people build decks differently in general. [Primal Surge] elves is an awesome concept. I realize the "battlefield" looks different as a spectator than a player. However, I think, perhaps, Dana may have still had the win. I think with [Ambush Commander], [Heart Warden], [Nullmage Shepard], [Reclamation Sage], and/or [Ghost Quarter] l, she would have enough activation triggers to put stuff into her graveyard and survive the draw triggers with her [Bow of Nylea] activation.

[@lightfut]

Primal surge do be surgin

[@Straffus]

Thanks Gavin, had to go back and listen to that song that should have remained in the past.

[@GoodMorningMagic]

It's time to battle!!

[@Solus3D]

I love your Sailor Moon hod.

[@michaelsinnreich6626]

😮 I don't think I've ever seen a legal commander deck go that hard that fast.

[@coffinspire9430]

Glad there is some magic game play in the patreon ad.

[@bashlindsay7618]

I am almost done building my Rashmi and Ragavan Treasure deck, just waiting for the last 14 cards to come in the mail from Card Kingdom. I'm so excited 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@MtendoTheSkunk]

The Bow was the answer if Dana had a few fetchlands or anything to sacrifice permanents to increase the graveyard she would've won. But that's how you learn how to fix your deck and make it so that can't happen next time!

[@AlexDuWaldt]

32:26 Oops. Rookie play there. Blind obedience makes the treasures come in tapped so no Joe didn't have enough mana for bastion of remembrance that turn.

[@TabletopJocks]

We hang with friends and play. Mistakes will be made. At the end of the day we are here to show our love for the game and the friends we make along the way ☺️

[@wesleypollek4637]

Love the energy with these games, fun to see even the experts like Gavin make silly mistakes

[@andyh9381]

44:24 sang "one is the loneliest sandbar..." right as I drew my opening hand, which included LONELY SANDBAR!!!

[@Q_Budz]

Yo wtf, Dana out here being the master puppeteer

[@kennypuckett2677]

Gavin, The Professional Face Breaker, went to the school of hard knocks.

[@Barsleepra]

I need a Jockside Extortionist alter now

[@turbopuschel]

on the one hand i feel sad for the dana's "misplay" , on the other hand she will handle it better in the future. don't be ashamed of your misplays, use them to get better :)

[@MatthewRyanDP]

I'm 31, my brother was born in 2007....this hurt me deeply I'm now going to put on my apple bottom jeans and cry

[@TabletopJocks]

🤣🤣🤣

[@tommyoffret4147]

I play with some work friends. 1 of them an elf precon is their only commander deck, I always tell everyone else he's the problem and nobody believes me because my favorite deck is a drain/gain deck

[@GrinningFeline]

So glad Moxtopper’s commander damage can deduct from life totals now! 23:24

[@SilHbs]

And this episode shows exactly why I gave up on build Light-Paws. So many searching and shuffling ahhhhh😢

[@PirateNori]

Lovely game as always

[@rowyngilfillan5113]

As a primal surge player, the last card of her deck would have been exiled, and if it was a permanant there would be the option to put it onto the battlefield then repeat.. the land would have been gone, however this does make me wonder if the interaction of exiling the top card would cause one to lose, if there is no deck? Similar to drawing to death, but, not.

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

56:12 I really thought he was getting Sensei’s divining top

[@rosehawker]

I have my DCI card from my first pr release with was Mirrodn.

[@brucwayn6403]

Elven army go infinite pew pew

[@Pumapeach]

Great games. Dana definitely had that game 2 as well if she just tapped four creatures to destroy an artifact before she bowed.

[@bryangiron5354]

Was blind obedience legal to play? It has a black pip no? Therefore it goes against the commander’s color identity?

[@YayoCruz28]

It's completely legal, in this case, the symbol is in the reminder text, which explains what "extort" does, so it's not counted. Reminder text has no rules meaning, so it doesn't count towards color identity.

[@bryangiron5354]

Ahhhh I see thanks 😃

[@ThatDJMike]

“Again, say less” “I stopped talking early that time” 😂the whitest interaction on this episode 😂

[@justinorman8608]

GG’s to all. What a game. 🍻

[@iman132394]

I want to mention the primal surge needs to be played out. If there is a guardian project or an "etb something, draw a card" effect, the triggers are put onto the stack and when resolving, it can cause you to lose by drawing an empty deck.

[@InfinityKrompt]

Primal Surge also says "If it's a permanent card, you *may* put it onto the battlefield. If you do, repeat this process." so she can stop it at with one card left in her deck

[@jameslawson6729]

Missed opportunity to call light paws "flight paws" when it gained flying from the aura.

[@TabletopJocks]

🤣🤣🤣

[@oldmanaaron]

Great games!

[@confessionsofafrustratedga6465]

This is the Mishra deck Joe plays to make you think (in thumb nail) he's playing a fun meld deck, but then does the most typical Cedh Rakdos combo win.

[@TabletopJocks]

🤣🤣🤣 that deck is not cEDH

[@confessionsofafrustratedga6465]

@@TabletopJocks true

[@kais.kustomes2578]

Can’t play bastion of remembrance at 33:37 because artifacts come in tapped due to blind obedience

[@TabletopJocks]

Bastion of remembrance is an enchantment.

[@master-zaynelotus5048]

I haven't watched yet, but Ezuri!!! My main man, no Yisan tho. Lol

[@theaeskey2502]

Boots with fur was 2007 EMOTIONAL DMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂

[@douggiefresh1990]

Dana forgot to destroy the enchantment on her Forest but great games regardless

[@herman1850]

Yeah, continued to tap the land for more mana, which cast her commander, gave nythos an extra devotion, and made Primal Surge possible.

[@cross1115]

i turned to dust right along with yall 😭

[@pnwprospecting]

Come to Portland and play a game!

[@elvincortez1484]

My merieke deck is a Sfax control/ combo deck

[@juggernautstark1]

49:40 Gavin says “so the turn immediately ends” Not the case. When a player loses, You still go through the steps and phases 🤓

[@obicortes8199]

Y'all took 5 points of psychic damage when you found out Low was so much older than Dana.

[@GrinningFeline]

Get Low - 2002 It can legally drink in the US

[@obicortes8199]

@Tim Christopher sorry that was meant to be low which is 2008

[@GrinningFeline]

Sorry! You right!

[@obicortes8199]

My fault I typed Iin the wrong song.

[@ZypherWildfire]

What's the lifetracker app you use?

[@the_social_gammer1976]

What is that app you use? For life Totals?

[@TabletopJocks]

Moxtopper

[@lb9662]

nullmage shepherd your own thing then activate bow to save from mill out

[@taylorjohnson5148]

Fun games

[@egoish6762]

I think Joe could have been attacking Olivia and tapping down lightpaws with goad on the attack trigger since she had not got the pro-creatures enchant? Wouldn't be able to block and his life total would be safer. Not sure what effect it would have had but karazikars trigger is pretty strong against voltron.

[@OrphixRoyal]

Swiftfoot Boots be strong.

[@egoish6762]

@@OrphixRoyal ah yes, i assumed i'd missed something. Sometimes a bit hard to see the board state from the overhead.

[@ally1234302]

16 minutes and they done wow

[@kairucamp]

surprised mishra didnt meld with the dragon this game but another interesting take!

[@TabletopJocks]

I didn’t put the meld card in because Mishra won’t keep the top ability. I go pretty wide in the deck and the meld shuts that off.

[@kairucamp]

@@TabletopJocks ahh understood!

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

53:42 but he could tap all her creatures before attacker’s because she wins by attacking with the elf’s to get a turn?

[@Mad.Edd.702]

I fuckin love this show😊

[@TabletopJocks]

Appreciate the love!

[@stevematthews4473]

What app are you using for life/commander damage?

[@zackbryans4982]

I am also against the Mishra meld, the base ability is just so much better.

[@TabletopJocks]

Right! I just like that side of it! 🥳

[@MonkeyGone2Heaven650]

Good game

[@williamhoadley5089]

Newer to the game and I have a question - I can see how Dana gets infinite mana with her combo but how does that win the game from there on the same turn? Does she use the trample from commander and then umbral mantle untaps all the creatures without summoning sickness? and if she had at least 3 such creatures she can attack with at least one at each opponent with infinite power and trample?

[@InfinityKrompt]

She explains she has Umbra Mantle to untap, yes. However she also has Ezuri, her commander, who says "2GGG: Elf Creatures you control get +3/+3 and and gain trample until end of turn" which she can use an infinite number of times by tapping Circle of Dreams Druid for 1 Green mana for each creature she controls, and she has Ambush Commander which would turn all of her lands into 1/1 elves which would also benefit from Ezuri's buff. She also has in her deck Thousand-Year Elixir, which allows her to tap creatures as if they had haste to activate abilities, such as Timberwatch Elf, which says "Tap, target creature gets +x/+x where X is the number of elves in play" and Coat of Arms which says "Each creature gets +1/+1 for each other creature on the battlefield that shares at least one creature type with it." So every elf gets +1/+1 for every other elf in play, which is basically every creature Dana controls, plus 27 of her lands. So TLDR answer: Yes. She just needs to swing her three mana dorks that had been on the board at the three players, each one would have infinite power and trample to win her the game thanks to her ability to untap creatures

[@jokerES2]

Dana needs Abundance. Which should already be in there?

[@josedcordero]

I have a question and not trying to nitpick but get a better understanding of commander rules. Olivia's commander is light paws and she has a blind obedience in her deck that has an extort cost of 1 orzhov, is that allowed to be in the deck due to commander color restriction, or does the extort not count as a color identity of a card?

[@TabletopJocks]

Extort is reminder text, not a part of the identity of the card

[@josedcordero]

@@TabletopJocks thank you, also thank you for the great content. I always leave smiling after watching your videos🥰

[@TabletopJocks]

@@josedcordero of course! Appreciate the love and support! ☺️

[@vinluv]

I'm surprised Dana didnt have something like concordant crossroads to give all her creatures haste

[@cameronsadler2647]

They had haste but the card draw was on stack so she couldn’t enter combat. If she entered combat the card draw would resolve losing the game

[@joshuajoly8582]

Fun fact, Low By Flow Rida came out in 2008. IIRC, That is indeed older than dana 🤣

[@strubbarz]

it was released in 2007 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_(Flo_Rida_song)

[@drewturney3949]

Hell yeah let's go!

[@dustindickey9202]

What app are they using here for tracking life?

[@TabletopJocks]

Moxtopper

[@donaldwoolstenhulme9333]

The enchantment on the land should have been destroyed right?

[@donaldwoolstenhulme9333]

At 38min ish

[@codymiller3610]

:( another one I'm not gunna watch olivia in it :(.

[@TheFenixDown206]

What's wrong with Olivia? 😅

[@codymiller3610]

@@TheFenixDown206 everything. To many to list

[@ThePhoenix0442]

What app are they using on that tablet?

[@TabletopJocks]

Moxtopper

[@akatdrag3003]

funny thing looking at her deck list she would had lost if she cast her commander cause beast whisper would had been on the field

[@SirPoonga]

Good game. I do not like that life tracker because it links commander damage and life. It happens in every game it is used that people have to correct the life.

[@williamwilson1433]

Dana had game two if she would have activated Nullmage and destroyed her own artifacts to use the bow and put them in her library

[@moxavenger]

You need 5 lands to tap Temple of the False God for mana: 8:20

[@jamiewall781]

He tapped it as a swamp

[@moxavenger]

@@jamiewall781 I figuered I was missing something.

[@joshlamarr8833]

I only knew the year ot was released as my mom passed that year. As soon as she said 2008 I turned to dust lmao I'm only 28 but still 😂

[@illshowyouwhorock]

What app are they using?

[@TabletopJocks]

Moxtopper

[@clemenskomorovski5131]

How do you pay the mana cost for Phyrexian Arena ? 1BB Temple if the falsche god make nothing with 3 Lands in play!?

[@Issblodh]

Joe had an Urborg in play.

[@antoniofontoura2260]

What's the name of the app they're using to keep track of life/commander damage?

[@TabletopJocks]

Moxtopper

[@nik700]

I'm not saying that playing Mishra without the Dragon Engine is wrong, but I'm saying it. BUt that's ok, I love you Joe even with your wrong decisions!

[@TabletopJocks]

If it had the same abilities as the front still I’d put it in. The deck goes wide so I don’t really need it in there for the way I play it.