Mexican Futbol is BROKEN and no one can fix it.

[@Komo47]

It’s 100% Corruption. As a Mexican, football has been Pay to Play and owners valuing money over talent development.

[@Domestic-r1i]

They have been copying United States.

[@greenraider44]

It’s a shame, as easy as it is to enjoy a rivals shortcomings, this hurts the USMNT indirectly too. We need our main Rivals to be strong and pushing us to get better

[@joseph_manero]

i don't disagree, but I'd much rather the Canadians be good and pushing us. The mexican team and fans are so unbelievably vile that I can't help but revel in their failure.

[@fuhjrvr7474]

well said. when people thing about our side were very weak. at least south america have brazil and argentina , who do we have ? nobody.

[@FManAngryAmerican]

Or we can get new Rivals. We have to set up more games with the South Americans.

[@Jason-hn6dq]

You guys have canada and panama

[@callumhayes7502]

@@Jason-hn6dq that's Like saying England have Wales and Scotland... Not good enough

[@guacamoleunited]

The US saving Mexico's 2014 qualifying run on the final day stopped the facepalm that could have led to actual change for Mexican soccer in recent years.

[@taytay817]

Ill never forget this. I think that will be the only time I will hope that we lose lmao. We'd already qualified 💁‍♀️

[@jimmyyue238]

Even in 2018 when Mexico was expected to be eliminated in group stage when their group had Germany and Sweden but they didn't.

[@AlexElCompa24]

Im mexican american and I love both national teams and I will never stop going for mexico but the problems are there and it’s embarrassing how bad we are 😭😭😭😭

[@merc2413]

Im mexican but mexico trash af, sad we will never see its full potential despite the country having the talent.

[@rudycastillo4150]

Agree eventho we have good player there's no chemistry

[@julioalcaraz5417]

I’m Mexican-American and I love Team USA and I’ll never root for Mexico. I like many American fans, were very upset when Landon Donovan wore a Mexican jersey and cheered for Mexico in 2018 when Team USA failed to qualify for the World Cup. I truly savor with a passion when Team USA defeats Mexico. I’ll always cheer for Team USA, win or lose

[@julioalcaraz5417]

@southwestt4788-que intelectual eres. Igual a la aficion que se lucio al perder contra EEUU. Tristemente, UD. no es el primero ni sera el ultimo. Lo felicito por nivel al donde esta. Siga luciendose, que nos hace falta reir mas

[@julioalcaraz5417]

@southwestt4788-All of a sudden you know me? Or is it that you typecast all Mexican-Americans. But don’t worry, I’ve dealt with your type before. I can hear you now, this nopal is not in touch with his roots, blah, blah, blah. Too bad there’s no room in that brain of yours to have a dialogue like adults and respect each other’s opinion now matter how much we differ. Part of America is respecting different opinions.

[@andh2627]

Something seems to be broken after the players go past the u17/u20 levels. Mexico has good youth development winning youth world cups but then the development stops after that somehow.

[@kevray]

they stay in liga mx and become mediocre

[@Sj24171]

No you need to Watch the video. The thing is that they charge money to debut and the ones who deserve to debut the dont debut because most of the them come from rough back rounds. Sorry for my english btw

[@Sj24171]

@@kevrayread my other comment

[@Domestic-r1i]

@@kevraythey get benched, the spot is usually given to old, foreign, central or South Americans who bring down the leagues level. Youngsters are way better.

[@alexmendez5875]

@@andh2627 Mexico literally doesn't have good youth development. You're wrong about that.

[@PhantasmagoriaRS]

Some fun facts from the video that may need a maybe incorrect explanation: The "Gentlemen's Agreement" is basically the anti-transfer rules of football. In normal football market, if your contract with a team ends, you have the option to renegotiate or leave on a free to a new team. In Mexico, the Liga MX owners made an extra "secret" rule that if your contract ends with a team and you want to move to another team in Liga MX, the new team must pay a fee to the old club as if you're still employed to the old club. If that new team doesn't want to pay the fee, you are either stuck with playing for your old employers or move out of Mexico and play for a foreign team since they can't charge them the fee. If you return to play in the Liga MX, the fee will also return. This obviously harms any youth player looking to break out as clubs who have academies basically have 100% of the power over their careers in Mexico. The Morelia incident was that Monarcas Morelia, an almost 70 year old club at the time, were planning to move to Mazatlan, Sinaloa. The team were owned by Grupo Salinas, who has the third richest man in Mexico as the chairman. The move was basically because Mazatlan is a popular tourist destination, especially more due to the show Narcos, and that the Sinaloa State government offered them a $600 million pesos package that includes the construction of the new stadium. Despite a pretty big protest march, the relocation went through. The city of Morelia was without any football team until the COVID-19 pandemic where they were offered a team spot in the new 2nd division Liga Expansion MX, a second division that has no relegation system from Liga MX and a promotion system so strict, it might as well not exist. A new ownership group bought the rights and logo to Monarcas Morelia and became Atletico Morelia, the team's name before the rename in the 1999-2000 season. After this video, a new proposition was sent by Liga MX owners to vote on. Which is the usual talk of brining back pro/reg, ending multi-team ownership, reducing foreigners in the league and other usual talk but no walk issues. Afterwards, the said chairman of Grupo Salinas, Ricardo Salinas Pliego, has also tweeted his ideas to fix Mexican football. The important stuff was that he also wanted to close Liga MX and introduce "Financial Fair Play". These points went down like lead as people realize that the Liga MX owners really want to be Mexican MLS. It also really didn't help that in a press conference, the new president of the Football Federation, Alejandro Irarragorri, basically said stuff that can be shorten to "No pro/reg because the MLS is very successful without it" and "Get Ready To Learn American Buddy!". Lastly, Mexican Football is getting dunked by every other Mexican sport fans such as baseball due to Mexico reaching wbc 2023 semis or Basketball due to Mexico finally making the FIBA World Cup.

[@Estebansportsfan04]

Also Zacatepec became the new Morelia. And not to mention how many other clubs don't exist anymore such as Veracruz and Chiapas. But I agree with you. It sucks that Liga MX wants to be MLS 2.0

[@nirothebeta7645]

(Opinion) After yersterdays game you really see that the Mexican sooccer level is falling down harshly. Cocca put Henry Martin a player who wasn't in top form over Santi Gimenenez who was in top form in Feyenoord. He made changes after the second goal, which he should have done at the start of the second half. In the two previous friendlies the main squad had mostly players that weren't going to participate in the Nations League or Gold Cup instead of playing the main squad for those tournaments. During the interview he just made excuses. In Argentina if they would have lost 3-0 against Brasil, he would have been kicked out from the coach position immediately, but it seems he is going to stay. Most of the US players are in top teams on the bench or subs but even then they beat us. (Soultion) We as fans have more power than we realize. For starters "STOP GOING TO THE GAMES. STOP BUYING THE MERCHANDISE" We as fans need to veto the Mexican federation because its apparent they only care about money. Pass the word tell all your friends and family memebers, in person or social media to not attend the games or buy the merchandise. If one game (upcoming) third place Nations League (Mexico vs Panama) no one goes they will lose thousand to millions of dollars. Only then they will realize things need to change. For the Gold Cup don't go. They should at least make it to the final, but after this game I doubt they will even make it there. This is not a one man job if we want things to change we need to gather in numbers to veto the Mexican Soccer Federation. The best performances of Mexico have been with Mexican coaches (Confederations Cup - Manuel Lapuente (Mex), Copa Sudamericana - Enrique Meza (Mex), Olympic Gold Medal - Luis Fernando Tena (Mex), Olympic Bronze Medal - Jaime Lozano (Mex)). Some of the worst moments have been with foreign coaches (7-0 Juan Carlos Osorio (Col), Fifa World Cup 2022 Gerardo Martino (Arg)). The feredation puts coaches they control and tell them which players to go on the roster. Its easier to control a foreign coach since they don't care as much as a Mexican coach. If not then don't complain that things don't change.

[@ktm4042]

I'm with you, after the embarrassing display from the other night I am boycotting games. It hurts to do this but too many years of this garbage.

[@jacobperez8921]

I'm also with you, ever since the date of your post, Cocca has been fired as coach. It was clear the fans are tired of all this bs coming from the Mexican Football Federation and the poor attendance of Mexican fans in that third place match of the nations league against Panama shows it.

[@psycheadfuzzfreak830]

Here wit u bro. Gotta hit them were it hurts 💰 💵

[@TheLastSamurai0_O]

Not only that but when they lose there a national disgrace because they throw a lot of racist absentees at other teams' players and team?

[@EzDLT]

En Argentina no despedirian al tecnico por perder contra Brasil. Por que es algo normal, no se puede ganar siempre y mas contra otra potencia. El problema real de Mexico son sus jugadores no el tecnico

[@mitrahispana4119]

What’s bad isn’t just losing 3-0, but looking like trash while doing it. Argentina got stomped 3-0 by Croatia in 2018 but their players got back to work, won the next game, and then the entire World Cup in 2022.

[@Zetro999]

I agree with you on the corruption part but México's mentality is also huge reason why they're so mediocre. For starters some players prefer to stay in México since they'll be treated like a star, can get away with mediocre performances since the media will always ride their meat regardless of how bad they play, in Mexico managers aren't as rigid as they are in Europe and that's turn off for them since they won't get away with their off the pitch bullshit and have to prove themselves worthy of being a starter, and lastly Mexicans in general are very conformist and are happy with very little.

[@re-tire985]

Que maldicion de extrente. Viva Chivas. Mexico doesn't even play friendly home matches in Mexico, they are required to play in US to get more money. Good video, but as you said there are so many reasons. The media, owners, agents and local officials all have vested interests in putting their players on the national equipo.

[@ktm4042]

Seeing national teams like Germany, Spain, playing games all over their countries in small and big stadiums makes me sick that Mexico doesn't respect the fans and play more games outside of Azteca. All for money they throw in-country fans away. Terrible.

[@barryallen8887]

I grew up loving Mexico and till this day I am a chivas fan de corazón. And honestly they have so much potential. They just never play their best players, always have good players choosing to stay in Mexico to earn more money instead of diving into Europe.

[@franciscogutierrez916]

Arriba las Chivas

[@dnick91095]

why would they go to "Europe" when they are paid well in Mexico? What needs to be implemented is a Mexican financial fair play equivalent where salaries are capped at a certain amount. And the "best players not being played" is a decision largely by every manager. How was Oribe chosen over chicharito 2014, Guille Franco over chicharito 2010, chicharito himself over Raul Jimenez in 2018.

[@xael-the-artist7708]

@@dnick91095 The reasoning against "Why would they go to Europe if they are well paid here?" goes like this: In modern football national teams are filled with players who play in the best leagues in the world, and it just so happens to be in Europe (La Liga, Premier, Serie A, Bundesliga, although Lige 1 is not really that good). Every top country in the world often sends their young players over there to improve and have the chance to become a powerhouse, the more you send the more likely you get those players for your team. What happens in reality is that Mexico is not really known to export players from a young age, as a matter of fact players often debut at 21 years old... which by that age they should be around their best years, then add the fact that a lot of players in Liga MX are South and Central Americans (Which by itself it ain't a problem, the real problem is that Liga MX has a ridiculous low foreigners cap, some teams can have as much as just 2 or 3 Mexicans at a time... in their own league). The last resort they had to keep this balance of having a medium good team was participating in Copa Libertadores and Copa America, but after some scandals the Mexican federation decided not to play in these tournaments, so not even the "best" local teams can test themselves against the best teams in the continent. There is another factor, which to be honest I also personally think it's true: Football in Mexico has started to become more about the business, conformity, not trying to reach new heights and just doing the bare minimum, a promising player staying in Mexico instead of going to Europe is basically saying "I don't care, I don't wanna test myself against the best". It doesn't help that clubs like Tigres and Monterrey have this fascination to take back all Mexicans who were playing in Europe, or trying to make a young player stay at Mexico with a good contract. It's really weird, in one end there's nothing wrong staying in Mexico if you get paid good, but at the same time Mexican people WANT their National Team to be among the best, if not, the best in the world. And the only way to have that is sending the best players overseas to learn and improve. Sorry for the long text, but it's a complicated situation, I personally want more people in Europe among the best teams to represent us.

[@DabDabGoose]

@@dnick91095 there is contracts in place that can force them to stay even if out of contract, the clubs are working together to keep the current system as it is which kills the ability of poorer kids to get in good systems where typically the best talents are found. The money isn't like it's spectacular, it's comparable to Brazil which has no problem getting it's talent into Europe. You look at the current Mexican squad and the player quality isn't that good, especially if they want to play at the knockout levels.

[@DominicanStud101]

I love that you covered this topic. It’s different than your usual content, and it was very interesting.

[@devilsson1ify]

Los expulsados 👍🏽 great chanel . They really go deep into the subjects they touch

[@ototharmen5332]

That's why I root for USMNT and MLS as a Mexican living in Mexico. Perhaps when USA beats Mexico in a daily basis as well as MLS teams, the federation will need to make changes for losing fans and income. GREAT VIDEO, by the way!

[@TacticalManager]

Thanks, the thing is US Soccer has problems of their own and I might do a video similar to this digging into it. The FMF and USSF are major problems.

[@sergjim2377]

It wasn't a wake up call when mexico almost failed to qualify in 2014. Mexico never learned ad my brother said what's mexicos end goal ? I said WC champions he responded with "really since the 90s mexico was always good enough to compete but never good enough to make it far

[@jesusgalvan5898]

Tell that to Alejandro Irarragorri, Ricardo Salinas and co. Ale just said that the real fans of Liga MX are in the US.

[@ototharmen5332]

@@TacticalManager I'm aware of them thanks to your videos. But if there was a match where the worst would score the more goals, FMF would win 9-2. There are other major problems in FMF like no chances for the young, a system of corruption where only the rich kids can get a change for a debut. It's needed to pay a great ammount of money to bribe the couches, or being the son of a celebrity or a famous player. Then the no relegation system, the playoffs where 12 qualify out of 18, 9 foreigners in the field and no program to debut young... and I can go on and on..

[@ganaed]

They're both corrupt bro lol. At that point be neutral. And they're not gonna change they're always gonna prioritize the money, sadly.

[@erniefernandezhernandez4541]

Another problem is the short tournament format in Liga MX where 12 of 18 teams pass on to the "playoff" stage, so basically all 18 teams are alive for almost every week of the tournament. You can be absolute trash for 13 weeks, then win a few games in a row to end the regular season, and be well on your way to a championship if the cards fall your way.

[@erniefernandezhernandez4541]

This means that by the time certain Mexican players do get exported to better leagues, they're wildly inconsistent and not accostumed to league formats where you MUST turn in results on a week to week basis or your chances of a successful season go down the drain.

[@martincoronado9232]

Actually, my friend who is big into soccer and he also was trying to get into soccer when he was younger told me the exact same thing. If you do the long season like say England and everywhere else pretty much you have to bust your hump on a consistent basis and what also happens is that you have to give the use, their time in the field. When you do the short tournaments, what happens is like you said they can play like crap for most of the season and then kick it up a notch so they can make it at least to the playoffs but the other thing is that the youth cannot be given a chance to get better. That’s also the reason why they’re always contracting players from outside of Mexico.

[@erniefernandezhernandez4541]

@@martincoronado9232 Exactly right

[@jacobperez8921]

Chivas and Cruz Azul as well as Tigres are excellent examples of this.

[@erniefernandezhernandez4541]

@@jacobperez8921 sure are

[@ohudidntknow00]

Excellent video, Tact! Probably the most thorough video essay I’ve seen on MX soccer from a non MX standpoint. Good work here.

[@allenrossi626]

What a masterpiece. Another 5/5. Thank you!

[@elkaliban]

100% on point man … I used to be a die hard fan for Mexico, but growing up I realized that pretty much everything they do is for business. Corruption in Mexico is everywhere, and sadly it will still keep going due to the fact that Mexicans will give more attention to the sport than the country’s issues . It’s all a rabbit hole like you said . Otherwise, great video 🫡

[@GojiCenter]

At this rate San Marino will likely have a world cup title before Mexico

[@alexanderaguilastratt7497]

Dude. What a great narrative. Well done!

[@Darksky1001able]

No matter how bad we get, no matter how bad we get defeated, i can never abandon the team. I will never root for the US and i will never abandon the team in terms of support. I still believe in loyalty to country. But i will say this, it is painful at the moment. A massive pain.

[@TheDenbagus4usa]

I also like both teams, but in five years, the Mexico team is going down the hill so fast like jumping from an airplane without a parachute, it is so sad, that the Mexican players resorted to violence as soon as they are behind. It is so obvious that they are mentally unstable AFTER Ochoa lost the goal, it is terrible.

[@TheCristianalvarez]

Wow what a racist.

[@korex0]

I just want mexico to let their young talent play so much of it is always wasted. Hopefully Diego cocca puts Alan mozo and Santi as starters regularly since they both have been in great form and to get the players who deserve to play and not the same old players who never deliver or are underwhelming (Moreno, Salcedo, Henry Martin, funes mori)

[@alvarobazan7683]

Tactical Master class of a video.

[@Matteo_DiNicola]

Great video. Despite all of Mexico's issues they have usually been the best in CONCACAF and IMO that has been why there has been no real change. I think if the USA starts to prove they are a tier above Mexico or if Canada begins beating Mexico in Gold Cup/Nations League, pressure will begin mounting and changes will be made. We'll see how this next cycle unfolds.

[@taytay817]

Whaaaaa. Have you not been paying attention the past few years?

[@DaddyFatSzack]

Well, you got your wish. United States are now the best. Let’s see if this changes anything for Mexico

[@Matteo_DiNicola]

@@DaddyFatSzack Let's see! IMO we have been the best for a few years but it is now undisputable and the gap is apparent. I am hoping Mexico starts to improve so we can continue to push each other to compete on the world stage.

[@loganmiller6879]

I'm of Chinese heritage and I would give a lot for China to have a men's football team as good as Mexico and US. I wish China could have players like Pulisic, Reyna, Hernandez, Marquez, etc

[@TheDenbagus4usa]

Yes, I agree, China has the money to do it, but it has not produced the best soccer players like South Korea and Japan. China has no soccer program like its Diving, Swimming, and gymnastic sports. They import some of the best African and European players, but the Chinese players could not pick up the challenges. So, it will be mediocre for a decade in the future. Indonesia has an excellent program, but as you know the Asian people are not built like Westerners or Africans who are taller, stronger, and more physically built like those two world soccer players. Japan and S. Korea are good because they have a youth program and are physically fast and agile.

[@JamesAvila-xu7ds]

@@TheDenbagus4usaJapan in baseball eat sleep and think baseball year round thats why they won 3 world baseball classics

[@TheDenbagus4usa]

@@JamesAvila-xu7ds I agree with you, but Japanese soccer team is my favorite Asian Team, the players were humble on the World Cup and the fans are fantastic. No drama, no jokes, just play soccer.

[@diegochavez6203]

Thays because asians dont eat as much carbs or fats ​@@TheDenbagus4usa

[@TheDenbagus4usa]

You are correct, I respect Korean soccer players, until they behaved like children when the Japanese down for luck, because an island between the Japan and South Korea, Dokto, which is a Japanese's island, but the South Korea took it, because of the vengeance during Japanese atrocities during WW2.

[@mariopfeiffer69]

Totalmente de acuerdo con el vídeo. Creo que debería hacer la serie para hablar de todos los problemas a detalle, jeje.

[@ganaed]

Gracias Filippo. It's a love hate kind of thing with Mexican soccer.

[@musicfriend2051]

The problem with Mexico is mediocrity, their players have always been mediocre and they’re doing nothing to refine their players which is by sending player to Europe to bigger and tougher leagues and competitions. Yeah soccer maybe their first sport in the country perhaps why their league is rich but that won’t produce you better players automatically. There are more things to it tho…..can’t write too long here

[@oscaralbertoguerrero9143]

I'll add the level of managers and youth coaches. They lack preparation and are isolated to new trends and ideas. Most of them are former players who are there because of legacy rather than actual merit. Then u20 prospects are relegated to an u20 League. Because lower tiers have terrible level (because of the closed system) and because of age restrictions. (No players above 25 can play at the 3rd tier of FutMX for example). I am a fan of a Liga Expansión (2nd tier) and it is effing frustrating how a few monopolize Big Sporting decisions(don't think corruption is the right Word) just to make money at the expenses of people's passion and dreams. It sickens me TBH.

[@dustinperez8248]

I strongly believe the Mexican team has declined drastically compared to other national team in the Americas. Tier ONE 1. Argentina 2. Brazil | TIER TWO 1. Uruguay | TIER THREE 1. Colombia 2.Ecuador 3. USA | TIER 4 1. Mexico 2.Peru 3.Canada 4. Chile 5. Costa Rica 6.Paraguay | TIER FOUR 1. Venezuela 2.Bolivia 3. Jamaica 4. Panama 5. Honduras ... I think Peru and Chile will fall even further and Paraguay, Ecuador Colombia, Canada, and the USA will just go up from here

[@Neno_6610]

No ball knowledge only Tier one is correct

[@TheDenbagus4usa]

I think your tier of the country in soccer of South and North America is 95% correct, but I assume that Canada is still better than Mexico. Mexico is at the same level as Costa Rica three years ago.

[@johnjackie91]

The quest for the world title continues if they do it correctly. Let's hope the EFL Cup Final (Man United v Newcastle) is trending no. 1 on social media.

[@noting7678]

Do one for MLS.

[@TacticalManager]

US Soccer next… a lot to uncover.

[@artemioortega2356]

In Women's soccer, CONCACAF is more competitive than CONMEBOL. 6 CONCACAF teams have qualified for the 2023 Women's World Cup. Mexico did not qualify to that world cup because the coach back then made terrible mistakes and possibly the corruption from Mexican soccer affecting Mexico Women's soccer team. About the CONCACAF issue, it is being hyperfocused on Men's soccer.

[@martincoronado9232]

A good friend of mine, who is from Mexico City, pretty much spelled out Y the Mexican league is losing its luster against the US and the MLS. He thinks that the US team as well as the MLS are actually pushing for much better as far as infrastructure, player, development, player, development in Europe, and hiring old players to the MLS. The last point as he stated was that these old players are leaving little schools meaning they are teaching the guys over here in the US tricks of the trade if you will. other than that, what you have are levers meaning people who have connections you also have Daddys kids who are playing and sadly they may not be the best players compared to their own dads and lastly people with money. Three years ago a new league was started, which was very short, and it was called the football league, and they were planning to use any person who had talent and be open to using them and not abusing or taking advantage of these young kids.

[@rt_jesse345]

my club was monarcas Morelia , taken from us the ppl , such a rich in tradition and culture , should make a vid on it tac 🤘🏻🔥🤘🏻 great content as always man

[@TheNotoriousNemo]

My dad stopped watching since then

[@tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825]

Aren't they back though

[@luckymark571]

They sold there club lol

[@rt_jesse345]

@@TheNotoriousNemo same he only watches the games of 2nd div w me

[@rt_jesse345]

@@tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825 yes we’ve been champion of 2nd division as well but there’s no promotion relegation rn so we can’t go back up

[@Domestic-r1i]

The bottom tier teams like Juarez, San Luis, atlas, santos, Puebla, Tijuana and America have the league hijacked. They got rid of promotion and relegation, use lots of foreigners instead of Mexicans, and only care about money. Grupo orlegi has 5 teams owned in liga mx which is match fixing. Sad to see this

[@lokithedog8425]

You forgot an important reason: the FMF’s relationship with Soccer United Marketing

[@MxGrr]

Excellent analysis indeed. I do agree w all points, and particularly the one about “players mentality” not being a real issue. There are all types of players in every country, perhaps there may have been some in Mexico’s NT who may have been there just to enhance their egos. But for the most part, Mexican players are first great Mex fans, they want the team to succeed and make it a championship contender. However, when the system is broken, individual desire is not enough to create a positive outcome, and energy, youth and talent can only go so far. It’s the system that needs to change.

[@deathkiller950]

I’ve seen Mexico be up 2-0 a lot of times and end up losing 2-3 you can see on the field how they get confident and cocky that they end up making silly mistakes. I know it’s a small issue to be compared to the massive issue in Mexican football so the players at some point are to blame

[@BiggTipper]

Bro love this coverage, I could watch content on the corruption in Mexican soccer all day lol

[@TheNotoriousNemo]

My uncle told me for a player to make it to the national team they have to pay 500,000. Not sure how true that is bit could be a reason why alot of the better players don't join the team and are left off.

[@psycheadfuzzfreak830]

Ya my dad said something like this. I swear there’s like dozens of little messis in the streets of Mexico but they’ll never make it cuz they come from poor or broken families. No way would they be able to afford something like that no matter how good they are. It’s all paid to play/win

[@jaquin103]

The pundits from fox and espn Mexico always refer to the corrupiton but I never heard it broken down like that. I hope the pressure continues on these owners

[@samuelacosta9245]

Hey Tac, first of all great video you talk about how bad MX soccer federation Is and great job on introducing the channel of Los Expulsados which I never miss. Keep up the great job my friend.

[@grammens123]

Good piece!

[@TacticalManager]

Thank you!!

[@JohnSmith-ys1wr]

Really sad. Mexico and Mexican players can be as good as the best players in the world but such talent wasted bc of their corrupt federation.

[@ExtraTimeTvTT]

Hey let's do a discussion on this and also on my association in Trinidad & Tobago

[@irvinhernandez3734]

The problem is Concacaf doesn’t let Mexico play with Conmebol teams in league or national teams. Mexico made money going to libertadores and copa America. Plus Mexico and the league was growing but without that exposure they made other decisions that now made Mexico go backwards

[@claryInTn]

The same Concacaf that invited or allow Qatar to play in the 2023 Gold Cup?😮

[@victorfortunato]

México no es parte de Conmebol, Concacaf está en todo su derecho en negarle

[@drefootybomar8792]

I've often wondered why it seemed that Mexican football had underachieved, but I never really did a deep dive on the subject. This video really goes a long way to clear up the mystery for me personally. Good coverage.

[@martincoronado9232]

If you spoke to my friend, he would tell you everything that’s wrong with the Mexican league and I can guarantee you that you would just pray that the Mexican league would collapse. Do you wanna know how bad the corruption is in Mexican soccer? Like in 2019 the new president came in and he was planning to make a lot of reformations and cleanups in Mexico. One of the things he definitely did was he stop giving money to Mexican TV stations and because of that the money sort of stopped flowing. It was in 2020 when the unthinkable happened and the second division was ceased and it became a developmental league rather than a promotional league Like pretty much the rest of the world with promotions and relegation’s. Think about that for a moment. Money would stop coming in and now they stopped and I mean the owners did away with the relegation so that their teams would not fall if they were ready to go into the second division. Among other things, like I said, it is rocked with full of corruption.

[@jacobperez8921]

@@martincoronado9232 Yup! The case of Chivas being saved from relegations in two seasons is a clear example of this or how Atlas was essentially helped in winning the Liga MX championship for two consecutive seasons and now they are just a mediocre club.

[@danimorales6453]

A Mexican American approves this video

[@diegochavez6203]

Soccer is a business but the federation doesn't understand if the quality and level of the national league and team inprove by investing now they will profit more in the long run

[@issiahrankin5926]

A bit off topic, but is it weird I want to see Mexico do just as well as the US? I know they are supposed to be our rivals but usually doing the world cups I’m rooting for all North American teams.

[@jacobperez8921]

I want to see North American national teams do well. We need competitive national teams so that all the weaker national teams within Concacaf win and eventually become a competitive area.

[@stephcarlofc]

The my opinion this is what you need to do as a country to win the World Cup: 1. Strong passionate ⚽️ culture. ⚽️ is Rey in your country. 2. Large Population 3. Great player development 4. Very Soild league. Doesn't have to be EPL level but it has to be good. 5. Good climate!! 6. I think another factor in countries that have won or could win the World Cup is your country's cuisine. 7. A real desire to win!! Mexico has everything in place to win a World Cup they have the Passion the population great cuisine, good climate.. What hurts Mexico is the extreme corruption in the soccer federation Is widely known that referees are known to take bribes and fixing games is not uncommon in Mexico. I still go back to the 2014 World Cup round a 16 game between Mexico and the Netherlands and how Mexico had a one nothing lead up until the last 3 minutes of the game Mexico should have beaten them. When the stupid coach took out Giovanni Dos Santos, That's what allowed the Netherlands to come back. I got mad love from Mexico and I wanna see Mexico shine too just like the United States But if Mexico keeps going the way they going Don't be surprised if they be like like Italy and eventually don't be qualifying for World Cup.

[@paulreed979]

Kudos to FSTM as you raise many valid points explaining the mediocrity of the MX selection. An issue you touch on towards the end is the amount of foreign players in Liga MX, especially those with the big clubs, hinders the development of Mexican talent that sits the bench instead of consistently playing against top competition in Liga MX.

[@ga7a903]

As an English fan I feel so lucky that football in my country is so healthy I feel sorry for country's like mexico they never get given a chance to prosper

[@sergjim2377]

We did it to ourselves. mexico has the history and money they prioritize the product over the talent one prime example is the u17 that won the WC they should be in their late 20s early 30s out of the whole squad only one player is still active and he's a bench player mexico has no idea how to develop talent

[@money1bil]

cause our players stay in liga mx and develop into mediocre

[@luisrg6544]

@@money1bil Nah it’s far worse than that. Most of the players that won the 2011 u-17 World Cup didn’t even make it to Liga MX 😂. Like op said, only one or two members of that squad are still active and are on the bench for a Liga MX squad. Any other team would have made 5 or 6 world class players out of that team, but Mexico couldn’t even make them professional players after they proved they were the best u-17 squad in the world. Mexico has the talent to be world class, the problems are all institutional and bureaucratic. Like most of Mexico’s problems, too much corruption :(

[@Angrygumballl]

There are millions of mexican-americans here in the United States enroll and partaking in high school Sports but not many are making the NBA and NFL.

[@Escietanica]

extra bit you forgot to mention is that Cocca was a double-edged hire, as the one who struck the deal was his manager, a man by the name of Bragarnik he's infamous in his home country (argentina) for being a corrupt manager that does similar deals to those of the Goal Cartel and who holds a lot of wielding power within argentinian youth ranks this deal is specially suspicious and double-edged considering Bragarnik was spotted sitting in the VIP area alongside FMF executives whenever Cocca's mexican side played their respective matches I mention all this because I myself am argentinian and I'm very much aware of the shady deals Bragarnik has had a hand in so I felt it pertinent to mention

[@carloscolunganavarro97]

Great video it’s ridiculous honestly. Makes me so sad 😭. We could be a powerhouse like in the youth categories

[@symptomofsouls]

Mexico and America have a lot of the same issues when it comes to developing players. The big clubs are spread out over a massive area, leaving many dead zones where kids with potential to develop into superstars don't get access to the resources required to go pro. In both America and Mexico, academies are for profit, meaning for the most part you pay the club to teach you, unlike in Europe. The difference between the USA (and to a lesser extent Canada) and Mexico is that they are willing to let their young players leave for europe, whereas Mexican clubs often refuse to let their players move abroad. While it does not work out for every player, there are many American and Canadian talents that benefitted from moving to european academies at a young age, whereas a mexican wonderkid with similar potential would not usually have those opportunities

[@supermex7275]

You know what’s funny. I get more info on El Tri from Tac, than the Mexican Soccer Show, which is comprised of “journalists” who cover The national team.

[@alhollywood6486]

This held up well Tac!😂😂😂

[@TacticalManager]

Aged like fine wine.

[@TheRealCheezits]

@@TacticalManager bro I thought you were Mexican at first😂, great video though!

[@juaritos2724]

Let’s see what happens by the next tournament with no excuses lined up this time..

[@alhollywood6486]

@@juaritos2724 Holy crap, you're really pimping this Mexican squad after this pointless tournament? I love it.

[@TheSocioPat7786]

Hey when was the last time Mexico hosted a Gold Cup? Or played any game in Mexico in the recent past?

[@TacticalManager]

All World Cup qualifying home games were hosted in Mexico. Gold Cup it’s been some time.

[@TheSocioPat7786]

@@TacticalManager what I meant was friendlies. Sorry

[@bluejayredemption6462]

​@@TheSocioPat7786 August 15, 2012 was the last friendly against the US that they hosted if Im not wrong.

[@TheSocioPat7786]

@@bluejayredemption6462 you would think that the El Tri fans would at least ask questions as to why that is

[@juaritos2724]

@@TheSocioPat7786The USMT have grown too comfortable playing at home regardless, that’s why they still struggle at away games like against El Salvador.

[@Milosevic7]

I'd say the Liga MX is the primary reason for Mexico NT being unsuccessful. Corruption is extremely important too, but you can have a great, successful team despite corruption. South American teams are an example of that, do not believe that everything is perfect in Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay. But they do, contrary to Mexico, send tons of players to Europe, who then play in the biggest clubs with the best coaches. I'm not Mexican (I'm Polish), but I fell in love with Mexico (and obviously its sporting teams) as a 6-year-old kid and I've been watching it closely ever since. Liga MX is great, I adore it (vamos Necaxa😉), but it's too cozy for the Mexican talent. If they go out, it'll change. More Guardados, Chicharitos or Márquezes and Mexico will get a WC medal despite all the mess and chaos in the country and in the federation. Vamos el Tri! 🇲🇽

[@chetmanley5031]

You could essentially make this same exact video for the USMNT

[@TacticalManager]

Working on it.

[@bernardopaba]

you forgot several huge issues such as the way TV Rights are sold, Sponsors, the Player Pool and the amount of Foreign Roster Spots, Youth Academies, the role of Agents, Lack of high-level opportunities, not identifying Dual nationals quickly enough, the Competition Format (Liguilla promotes mediocrity) and Pro-Rel, the disappearance of Copa MX, Lack of solid professional structure past 2nd Div. These are just some but it’s good to see that atleast some people are paying attention

[@deetsteve00]

Los Expulsados (The channel mentioned in the video) literally explains on every video why Mexico sucks and he bases his arguments on the owners wanting profit over sport. To the point you can't enter a soccer academy unless you pay an outrageous amount. Producing way less good players than they used to in the 90s and 2000s

[@hectirbarrera2208]

Piojo Herrera needs to make a comeback. He's 110% Mexican, he's played with the jersey, the players will respect him, and there won't be another 3-0...ask Brazil😊

[@hsal1996]

Facts! The last mexican national coach that had the passion to motivate the players

[@franciscolobato1520]

I used to watch liga mx religiously & I stopped following the league since my team was just wiped out (Monarcas Morelia) team with the 6th biggest fan base in the US .. but yeah it’s spiraling down hope it does tbh 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@usmnttrump6938]

Mexico needs to drain the swamp and put Mexico 1st. America 1st.

[@sergjim2377]

No mexico 2nd. America 1st.

[@franklomeli2430]

🇺🇸

[@IncredibleStan]

Cringe

[@ishrendon6435]

Lmao

[@ishrendon6435]

​@sergjim2377 lol 😆 this funny

[@Jsurp]

Liga mx pays more than Europe and they get more playing time and more fans on average. Club america had the biggest soccer stadium in the world up until Barcelona upgraded

[@temijinkahn511]

Anyone know the number of Mexican players in Europe compared to the number of American players?

[@sciphan]

Filippo (sorry if I misspelled it)from the future should be wearing sci-fi gear from the future, like VR glasses and a silver shirt!

[@RaySmith79]

Top talent in America and Canada are now playing football. Most athletes played other sports, but now more are playing soccer.

[@chinochiva]

As Mexican i can tell that there is many corruption. We also dont have a second division competition because interest of other teams from first division dont to go down in that positions, is sad to see competivity desapering in the young mexicans from inferior divisions

[@merc2413]

I don’t get how a country so obsessed with soccer can be such underachievers, from my research, mexico has all the ingredients to become a powerhouse but yet the people in charge don’t do the necessary changes to point the country towards that direction, the mexican people deserve better

[@MrGA555]

Mexico can 100% be a competitive league. But, like with their soccer, they have been way to stagnated. They rely on the same old players and the same coaches and just recycle them. Fuck that. Mexico need to bring the best South American and European players (obviously cut back on the importing) AND coaches to Mexico. Can we afford Pep Guardiola? Hell no, but we can definitely afford Abel Ferreira or Marcelo Bielsa.

[@pacharo1838]

Your video, aged well it’s now fixed for Mexico

[@andrewsmith9174]

There are two simple reasons for ANY team to not be a soccer superpower: 1) the main reason is the level of competition to drive good players to be better. In CONCACAF, we are not a challenging league. We don’t rise to a level to make any team here do better. 2) linked to #1; a development program that encourages world class play. No one is truly trying to find the best talent, create a huge pool of players and give them resources to develop a real program of making players better. It’s all money money money, and not real training, scouting, finding quality coaches, etc.

[@claryInTn]

There was a time when the former British colonies wanted to have one federation and thus one team to compete in international tournsments. Much like the West Indies cricket. But Fifa wanted 9 weak national Assiociations rather than one big one with some clout. The result small Islsnd nations of the Caribbean have to 10 to 15 games to qualify for regional Cups while the big 3 just a 2/3 games.

[@alejandromorales786]

Great video!! I would just disagree with your position of mentality. Players aren't forced to sign any multi-million dollar contract. Players should want more for their careers, and they will choose to settle. Also, Mexican culture makes it hard for the players to want to leave mexico, their families, the culture, and being a "star." Lots of Mexicans are not prepared to move to another country like USA Players or South Americans that need to leave for their families

[@mr.n54o86]

Hey do you know chata?

[@waing8999]

great vid

[@Longlivetheking4014]

I’m a chivas fan and it’s so infuriating watching them not perform and also the terrible refs the refs are so unbelievably bad and they are not afraid to show bias it is CORRUPT

[@jonathonedwardmiller]

They are definitely all bark. They’ve been saying that for 10 years. Until they get rid of the committee and televisa I have no reason to believe they’re a World Cup threat. And that does include if players go to Europe, which I also don’t think will ever happen at a huge click. I do see them building facilities and trying to recruit more Mexican Americans but at what point if the US is destroying you does that make a difference? Also I believe the rise of baseball and maybe basketball will hurt them in soccer like it’s hurting us in baseball and basketball that we have a rise in soccer

[@KingofLatveria]

Fun fact: Soccer is NOT the biggest sport in Mexico. It is baseball and boxing.

[@pew9218]

Absolutely 0 ball knowledge

[@KingofLatveria]

@@pew9218 I doubt I have better ball knowledge than you. But baseball had a history in Mexico and don't get me started on boxing lmao. You are probably not even Mexican 😂💀

[@maximilianomadrigal6661]

Yeah i think the only way anything will change is if mexico doesn't qualify for a world cup and a tiny country is what keeps them from qualifying, like Trinidad and Tobago or some small Caribbean country or something just as embarrassing

[@xavierduran9205]

Finally Someone who understands

[@themilkywayuniverse6962]

1:30 I think that would be a lot of my fellow Peruvians 🤣🤣🇵🇪⚽️😔😔🇵🇪

[@heyheyyoyo3583]

Best we can hope for is the fanbase to boycott or pay less attention to the national team and hopefully the local league can attract more Europeans and South American talent to increase the competitiveness and hopefully increase the local Mexicans talent/experience

[@LJfootball14]

Bielsa actually would have been a disaster on a national team level of coaching. He’s extremely overrated by clubs like Leeds as they don’t see how much harm they caused their club. They actually think of him as some god coach for Leeds and to this day don’t realize the damage he did by setting them back with his ways of playing with small squads and not wanting to recruit younger players into the PL2 squad etc…. His system also would never work on a national level. Never ever ever. On a smaller club level like a the Championship where players are desperate to achieve getting into the PL, they will run through brick walls but once they arrived in the PL that level of almost insane conditioning and commitment on the pitch goes out the window very fast.

[@psgraya2]

If anything is ever going to change, they need to remove the “club owners” from being the people in charge of anything related to the National Team and the Mexican Federation. It’s absurd. Some of these owners, don’t know shit about the on the field stuff…yet they have a voice when electing a coach or moving things within the league that ultimately have made LigaMx less competitive???… nah man. These people are business men, they care more about the business side of the sport. Not the on the field stuff. They should NOT be involved in anything that isn’t exclusive to the club they own.

[@xavierduran9205]

And the whole monarcas Morelia situation was sad……. LOCURA 81❤💛

[@kava3957]

Mexico were ranked top 10 before the World Cup in 06 and competed well against Germany and Argentina in the confederations cup in 2005. Also making two copa america finals prior. Competing in libertadores, copa america, sudamericana is when Mexico were at their peak. Once they pulled out from all south american competitions is when this downfall all started. So I do think competing against the south american teams did help to a certain extent.

[@victorfortunato]

Nothing last forever, México never was part of Conmebol, never even try it yo be, They got tired of Mexico's whims and cries, changed their calendar without consulting Mexico and forced him to resign.

[@tbrianbryan8049]

Considering the ineptness and corruption in US Federation, it appears our team may suffer the same fate

[@josegh89]

Never say never

[@AKUNJIG]

Watching this after the USA 3-0 Beating of Mexico. One fan is calling that they should boycott going to Games in America.

[@diegochavez6203]

Mexico has made it to yhe 5th game twice 1970 and 1986

[@bennyanthro4891]

@@diegochavez6203 yeah but that’s when they hosted the WC. What have they done since then? l grew up watching El Tri and stopped watching because non of those new kids have heart anymore. More interested in being on social media.

[@jacobperez8921]

Mexican soccer will never be fixed unless the federation body starts cleaning house and starts a reformation of the structure of the federation. There are too many competing business interests that want to fight for power to control the Mexican soccer federation. These interests are preventing Mexico from having a serious and competitive professional soccer league that can compete with leagues around the world. The league to full of bad decisions like eliminating the descension and ascension of clubs from the first and second leagues and making the 2nd division league part of the first division indirectly without being able to truly ascend to the first division for teams who win the 2nd division title. Mexico also needs better youth development systems in place since it seems young players after the U17-U21 don't get many chances to show their potential to attract competitive European teams.

[@temijinkahn511]

Any chance MLS and Liga MX will merge anytime soon?

[@ericschneck3278]

Good question! Would increased MLS and Liga MX or even merging the leagues help or hinder both leagues? I think it would help. The idea of a NA champion is enticing.

[@fsdafdsafdas]

Thanks Tac!!! Great to learn what's going on with our fellow CONCACAF teams! It's a shame because on talent alone they were the big boys before the past 4 years and we all know the USA could use some competition so we don't have shit coaches like GGG playing shit tactics and calling up shit players going undefeated until the World Cup. Unfortunate, maybe the USA won't get competition again in the next 20 years.

[@cammeat]

The problem is they don’t develop their players abroad.

[@fisterhr]

I've been watching El Tri since the 90s and here's what I've noticed. Even when they're at their best, they lack stamina in high level FIFA, not CONMEBOL, but FIFA competitions. They have plenty of gas and good football in the first round but come the knockout stages, they run out of gas, they frustrate easily and do scare a bit against a tough opponent at that stage. They also lack athleticism and endurance. Osorio once started to talk about this but then had to shut up quickly before the Mexican press ate him alive. The Europeans have forced this to be a faster and more athletic game without all that pass/possession 'ole shit' style that was once used to measure how good a team was. Some South Americana countries, like Brazil and Argentina, don't care too much for it anymore because they knew they had to get away from it and play fast and hard to not get left behind by the Europeans. Mexico, I'm not sure if they want to do the same, or if they can. Another thing that most people refuse to admit is that Mexico's Concacaf neighbors aside from the US have improved and are a lot tougher to beat. So it's not so much that Mexico has too much corruption or they party too much or they're not playing their best players, or whatever excuse that they've always thrown over the decades. It's simply because their neighbors have gotten better and are not as easy to beat as they once were.