Tactitok - Fitting A Rubber Zastava M57 Grip To A Tokarev TT33

[@thebotrchap]

It shoots just fine (for a Tok). I was confidently plugging the black at 25m with surplus ammo and the grip is extremely comfortable.

[@Jrhoney]

"I am an engineer so I like to measure things." What an apt self description. Brings to mind this little nugget of wisdom. "Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so." -Galileo Galilei

[@thebotrchap]

JRhoney I was taught to measure, check, check and when sure check again.

[@amorembalming]

As controversial as this may be I actually like the look of a standard Tok. The rubber grip only enhances it in my opinion. Thanks for this, enjoyed watching you work.

[@thebotrchap]

amorembalming I like it too aside from the grip. In some way which seems to defy physics it is still a soft shooting gun despite the spicy surplus ammo. You can feel the slide lazily schlop back and forth with every shot.

[@SmallDisturbedChild]

The Chap I have the M57 Zastava, I go to an indoor range that people can fire up to wetherby magnum on. For some reason that tiny round always gets looks when fired.

[@thebotrchap]

'Cos fireballs are for winners! 💥

[@TardyTardigrade]

That's why I bought the Kel-Tec PLR-16. .223 out of such a sort barrel gives an enormous fireball.

[@deepbludreams]

The TT, an example who's primary feature is "It's a Gun."

[@baker90338]

at least it isn't the rwby version aka a melee weapon that is also a gun *shudders in disgust at mechanical jams*

[@jancz357]

what does it mean? for a gun noob

[@peterdvornik]

bloodygentleman he's saying its primitive but at least its something

[@lakey253]

The round was designed for trench warfare. It might not drop a guy in one shot, but when you have ten guys lined up in a trench you'll probably hit two or three with every round, this pistol was designed as a backup for the ppsh "burp" gun. 72 rounds in about 3 seconds. So it did serve a special purpose. Might not be the best all around. But it did it's job well.

[@mi777ke777]

@@lakey253 Its actually an amazing pistol, but it gets a lot of hate from people who know nothing about them because of its looks. When you read the specs its basically a shooting a Five Seven round, but bigger and a little slower. I love mine. Fireballs, distinctive sound, smooth action, armor penetration they really check all the boxes

[@jims9249]

Nice looking grips and great idea on the mag extension.

[@Scottishblacksmith61]

Duncan here, Chap looks like it was meant to be ! Thanks for sharing !

[@stevendee2831]

love the new look . nice fitting lads.

[@shkgamers4113]

After upgrading its looking far better now

[@ahmedzubairsheikh]

brilliant! Drastic change in looks indeed.

[@johnhans2929]

That actually looks really good. I might have to think about getting a set of those for my M57.

[@pauleichenberger7189]

you could just use M57 magazines. They work just fine in a tt33 just extended

[@thebotrchap]

Paul Eichenberger Not seen any M57s or bits thereof in these parts but now that I know it works I'll keep an eye out.

[@FullSemiAuto357]

The Chap And you'll get an extra round!

[@worldtraveler930]

I concur.

[@beachsidebum]

I had just scrolled down to make same reply

[@musashi2041]

Has anyone tried?

[@matthewhawes382]

Nicely done Chap!

[@herrcobblermachen]

Good ole 3d printed mag base to get it to stick out the bottom of the grip. Rubber mag extension is a good idea too

[@chickenray182]

I never knew Robert Plant was into Tokarevs!

[@AgamemnonTWC]

Just another idea for a quick and dirty way to make the mags easier to remove - why not use that lanyard loop? Put some thin paracord, leather strip, or even strong wire through there, tie it, and yank it out to change. Seems easier and just as effective as the rubber spacers.

[@thebotrchap]

Addressed in the comments further down. It works for extraction but for insertion a loop interferes because an unextended mag needs to be pushed up into the new grip, hence the addition of a mag extension in the first place. An extension AND a loop would of course be possible. I'm just a leisurely range plinker so I don't see the need to taktify it any further but feel free to knock yourself out 😬

[@AgamemnonTWC]

That makes a lot of sense then. Thank you for the reply!

[@HypocriticYT]

The M57 I think is more accurate then the TT33. Better finish and fit. I found at auction there is a good premium paid for the pistols with browned slides.

[@thebotrchap]

This one is pre-WW2 (1937) so it doesn't rattle at all. The trigger has a LOT of vertical play though.

[@JenniferinIllinois]

I get scared every time I see a gun and a Dremel together. Hehehe... -Jen

[@thebotrchap]

Oh yes, Bubba's weapon of choice! In this case the only part of the actual gun it touched was the magazine toes 😬

[@JenniferinIllinois]

Hehehe. Looks like you did a great job putting the 'new' grips on the TT. Looks pretty cool.

[@jonnythunder76]

great idea i wouldnt mind trying this myself! :)

[@lazaglider]

Things about this channel I have, for no good reason, taken note of #289: Chap enjoys collecting watches. When in Switzerland...I suppose.

[@thebotrchap]

lazaglider I only have 6, none of which are particularly rare or expensive.

[@jz9259]

Can't say it's beautiful, but seems like a decent upgrade. I've always found the Tok's grip uncomfortable. Any word on how it shoots?

[@travisrogers2987]

There is a company making grips for the TT 33 their name is Cytac you can buy them on Amazon

[@patrickpost3269]

Very cool idea! I have a question thought. Did you notice an improvement in comfort, and ease of shooting with the grips. I'm trying to decide if i should do this with my Romanian tokarev

[@thebotrchap]

Yes, the comfort is great! The mod is reversible anyway. If you are just doing leisurely range shooting the mags don't even need modification, they will push up into the grip but are fiddly to get out again. A loop of cord through the mag bottom loop like a magpul can also be used.

[@patrickpost3269]

i accomplished the task using your instructions, but being Canadian i used a chunk of hockey puck for the mag extension. It turned out very well and shoots better too.

[@simonferrer]

I like this modification, Chap, and think you did a very good job. Do you think the soft grip extending past the frame of the gun will present any magazine feeding issues over time if the rubber warps? Looking at the project, it made me wonder if cutting a small channel in the rubber, inserting a shaped ring made of stiff wire and then sealing it in with JB Weld would work to reinforce the mouth of the mag well.

[@thebotrchap]

The lower end of the grip is stiff enough not to cause any mag feed issues but then again I only do leisurely range shooting :-). The only relatively flimsy bit is the front lip, the sides and back are quite thick.

[@momouppa]

Time for some engineer jokes reply below How do you know someone is an engineer? They tell you. When I get burried I want an engineer to do it so they can let me down one more time.

[@ZacHawkins42]

Philip Alpers The optimist says the glass is half full. The pessimist says the glass is half empty. The engineer says that the containment device is fifty percent too large for the designated job and must be redesigned.

[@ScottCroom]

Poor vegan engineer that does crossfit...they can never decide which they are going to mention every time they talk to someone.

[@srtgrayfrance]

I always say that the glass has a 100% safety margin for the required volume of liquid.

[@coltm45a16]

@@ZacHawkins42 and i say a glass is full beacouse air counts

[@neoneo5095]

That grips look so good but it so expensive in my country like 75$ for the rubber grips

[@PaidInBoredom]

Russian Thunder makes a 4 rd magazine extended floorplate that you could buy any use instead of putting rubber on the bottom of the mag.

[@glorymiroyalcap4713]

How can I order that rubber grip

[@shonielvis2458]

Where can i get the rubber grip? is it available via online shopping?

[@robertl6196]

Nice looking. I wonder if you can get grips from a Tokagypt?

[@CAPNMAC82]

Rather than JB Weld, which would have had some issues, I probably would have tried RTV rubber. The door stop winds up being probably better as it is not blue, putty, or red colored like most RTV are.

[@TheCommissarM41]

What about adding a little loop of paracord on the magazine lanyard loop, like a primitive mag pull?

[@thebotrchap]

Mike Morris Tried it and it worked but mag insertion is then awkward since you need to stuff it up inside the grip. I could still add one through the rubber extension since there is a hole in it that connects to the loop.

[@gibell3443]

cheers!

[@whipstafusa795]

Looks like a lot of tedious work, also what about the one's with the crappy safety catch like mine. I would guess you have to grind that out too. Good vid though!

[@ragnarragnarsson3128]

Nice vid, but couldn't you also trim the overhanging rubber off flush with the bottom of the frame and use unmodified mags?

[@thebotrchap]

Eric Edd I could, but that ruins the ergonomics of the bottom of the grip.

[@HypocriticYT]

but nothing makes these more accurate!

[@corycarlson8712]

I love do it yourself projects like this...however I think their is one thing you could do to avoid that problem... Buy a glock! Just kidding, I love those tokarevs. Have an awesome day!

[@thebotrchap]

Tupperware belongs in the kitchen, not the range 😁

[@siestatime4638]

I'm considering alternative grips for my P64. I wonder...

[@alijuman6172]

Why dident u just get a m57 magazine they fit the t33

[@thebotrchap]

Because I didn’t, and still don’t have access to any. Plenty of TT33 pistols and mags around though.

[@generalaki9240]

I wonder if a M57 (Serbian Toke) magazine would fit a TT33.... then you can carry one more bullet (coz the mag is longer) and the mag would be flush with the bottom of the rubber... =) Nice vid bud! All the best from Serbia!

[@doejohn8674]

They fit and work, problem is finding them, I haven't found any (at least without the gun :) ) here in Switzerland.

[@georgegeorge8553]

Great video. I love Tokarev because of it’s high-speed 7,62/25 caliber, which has Significally more penetrating power, than 9 mm. Para. I have 1 origin. Tokarev and going to install rubber Yugo grip too. I have a question here: Why do not you just use yugo M57 9 round magazin in Tokarev? As I suggest, it should fit, and it is longer, so, you won’t need to mess with any dummy rubber stuff. Does M57 mag fit to russian Tokarev?

[@thebotrchap]

George George Simply, we don’t have a big surplus market here so the chance of actually finding ‘57 mag is slim whereas Tok mags are easy to find. No idea about interchangeability.

[@georgegeorge8553]

The Chap I have some stable gut feeling M57 should fit to Tokarev, because it is just 1 round longer. However, Tokarev mag. will not fit to Yugo M57, because it is simply shorter. I am going to start looking on ebay yugo mag.maybe I am lucky) thank you for the answer. So, searching process did not take long tie. I have found M57 mags for 30$ on ebay. www.ebay.com/itm/New-Original-Zastava-M57-Tokarev-9-Round-Magazine-Mag-M-57-Yugo-7-62x25/222939729007?epid=2094901256&hash=item33e83e4c6f:g:x8IAAOSwWupa3PDj

[@kaidog9528]

i see new grips in my cheap norincos future

[@Suger5zero]

I want a Tok so badly 😢 . They're just so hard to find

[@gunslinger2172]

HEY MR Bloke greetings from the USA since we dont use or understand the metric system can some one help to convert to inches. while measuring why do you add 1 cm? or is it MM? Confused here anyone that knows the metric scale please Help!

[@thebotrchap]

Mark Aul Any online unit converter can to the conversion. I ensure that the oblong slabs inside the grips are milled off 22mm (0.866 or 55/64 inch) from the bottom of the grip. That is for my frame though, you need to check yours.

[@jamesc9075]

Do you know or have any magazine feed up lips my has. Role and I can not find one

[@Subgunman]

Very decent upgrade! Not only improves the looks but I appears to improve the grip as well. Do you by chance have a web sight or a contact as to where we can order one?

[@thebotrchap]

Subgunman They were or are periodically up on EBay. Look for M57 grips.

[@LugaWaffen]

Hello, where can I buy it for my TT33?

[@thebotrchap]

Luga Waffen Hi, I found it on EBay.

[@LugaWaffen]

thank you sir, i would like to buy it

[@therish7169]

Was going to suggest just putting a keyring on that mag loop to pull it out Chap :)

[@thebotrchap]

The Rish My first try was with a rubber coated ring through the loop but after all the effort of fitting the grip it just didn't look right.

[@therish7169]

The Chap oh I agree your way is far less half arsed than my suggestion! Nice job.

[@bigmal1690]

he didn't do to bad with the explaining, i wonder if u could use the magazine from the gun with the extra round of ammo that the grip was originally for, i forget what he said it was but i think he said it a copy of his gun and it had a longer mag?

[@thebotrchap]

Thank you! Another poster raised the question below and from his experience of using the M57 mag in a Chinese Tok there were feed issues. I'll have to try to find one to see if it runs in the Russian Tok.

[@bigmal1690]

The Chap thanks for the reply, so with the new grip are u going to show us how it shoots and if it makes it better?

[@thebotrchap]

burger1690 I could but frankly all it changes is the grip comfort which is a personal thing.

[@bigmal1690]

The Chap ok mate, save ur film, ur'll need it with all the craic(crack) that's going on, with KZbin ads and changing the rules every 5mins, they would need to get their fingers out off their arses and get it sorted soon or we r going to lose guys like u from doing what we want to see & love...keep at, don't let the Bastards get u down.....

[@thebotrchap]

I got my 9yr old to film me empty a mag full today, I'll probably put the footage on up facebook.

[@goranmilic3749]

about magazine, just buy m57 magazine, its longer and it will fit just fine

[@glorymiroyalcap4713]

I need that rubber grip

[@zachariaszut]

I just simply do not like to have my gun rubberised. It does not have the same feel to it...

[@thebotrchap]

To each his own 😊

[@simonferrer]

Prudence dictates that you should always rubberize when dealing with a strange chamber.

[@n.classicalmusic8466]

i wnt to bay this grip you can import in pakistan .

[@BlokeontheRange]

Ask the seller.

[@n.classicalmusic8466]

@@BlokeontheRange who is the seller

[@BlokeontheRange]

No idea. Try Google or ask The Chap who bought it.

[@thebotrchap]

Search on EBay for „tokarev rubber grip“

[@callhoonrepublican]

he needs to get some m-57 mags and try to get them to feed right, because mag capacity

[@thebotrchap]

Good point. Are they not compatible? I would assume the only difference was the length.

[@callhoonrepublican]

I tried them in my Chinese Tok, they wouldn't feed well at all. you could probably get one to feed well with enough time messing with it. Or they might work just fine in the Russian guns, I've never even held one. they're expensive in the US lol

[@АртурПирожков-з4о]

👍🤝

[@KlintDemetrio]

Nice.. fitting-adjustment video. Thanks for making video :) Also Advert FYI: ad that played before video.. 1 min plus "political . not the nice kind.. but a lot less mean and a-holey than their we're cops and we no better / can't do wrong 'ad' from NRA.org (this one was the we're not involved with either political party and their elite allies.. despite the long history of NRA's lobbying and political influence :P :D ) I hope your video gets the credit for the ad. :)

[@KlintDemetrio]

Yeah I know and I'm pretty much okay with that. (the NRA actually does have nicer ads) but I just hope the ads everyone is watching.. some bit of coin is actually getting to you. Vs. a 'nope sorry sir, none of your viewers are seeing ads.. so we really don't need to compensate you'. Btw nice work on that fitting and I really like how you came across using part of the door stop as a real nice end grip for the magazines.

[@ivovucinic2822]

Simple solution...take a magazine from zastava m 57.

[@andrewderksen3342]

Thanks to your video I did this seccessfuly :) ps don't put it on before modification - it's really hard to get off again lol

[@thebotrchap]

Andrew Derksen I liberally spray them with balistol for assembly/disassembly.

[@JJ-or3kl]

нет! пистолет в порядке!

[@easyfiveOsink]

Or you could just buy a Zastava M57 and then the grips would fit.

[@thebotrchap]

Hmm let me see, buy a copy of the TT33 just so I can fit a grip on it, when I can just quickly modify the grip to I gun I already own (and cost me peanuts) for free..... Nope, I don't follow you're argument ;-)

[@clangerbasher]

Englishmen with handguns. Tis like a parallel universe. How do I get there? :)

[@ProjectZenOfficial]

clangerbasher Switzerland.

[@clangerbasher]

I know where they are Zen. :) I have been wistfully looking at Mk IV Rugers on the web again. :( And that American chappy Nutnfancy has a KZbin review of the S&W MP 22 compact which I will probably watch over tea. I know this phase will soon pass when I start crying over pictures of the Hammerli x-esse......... :)

[@SmallDisturbedChild]

clangerbasher I'm a brit in the US, I'm with you on the Rugers, though I'm yet to get one. Maybe some day I'll share my small but growing collection.

[@clangerbasher]

I really prefer European .22lr but sometimes when you flicking about the web you see something and think, 'Ooh that's nice!'........ As much as I like rifles it would be nice to have the handguns back.

[@dennis8309]

Why not just remove the lanyard loop and leave the grip intack...

[@thebotrchap]

Dennis Because chopping the lanyard loop defeats the point of making the grip fitting completely reversible.

[@dennis8309]

@@thebotrchap - What do you mean by reversible?

[@thebotrchap]

Dennis I mean that I can return the pistol to its original military configuration if I want to without any extra work

[@dennis8309]

@@thebotrchap - Gotcha...

[@darkspire91]

Y tho?

[@thebotrchap]

'Cos bro!

[@parco232]

Sitt zastava

[@readman010]

that intro is dangerously close to AvEs BOLTR, thought it was a collab, a little disappointed

[@dji7464]

Buy a glock ...

[@abuseofviolence]

I have the original WW2 wooden grips on my russian WW2 produced tokarev, I will never change them.