Romanian TTC and Yugo M57 Tokarev Pistols - Which is Better?

[@zdravkonovosel122]

Without any doubt,Zastava M57 is the best version of Tokarev ever made! I have it since 1966 and it's like brand new even today.

[@Mortablunt]

The one I got was new production.

[@keithtate1241]

I just purchased a Yugoslavian M57 Tokarev and I had a choice between the M57 and a Romania TTC. I like the larger handgrip, the extra round and the captured guide rod. Thanks for the video.

[@darkbiker9887]

Сербы берут любое оружие и доводят его до идеала. Их оружие всегда очень качественное и зачастую гораздо более удобное и качественное по сравнению с оригиналом. Взяли маузер К98 и произвели М48. Взяли советский ТТ и произвели М57, который реально более удобный в руке по сравнению с оригиналом, та и предохранитель есть. Взили немецкий МГ42 и произвели М53, который сохранил все плюсы немца, но темп стрельбы меньше. Про Югославские АК даже говорить плохо нельзя. Качество просто великолепное. М70, М92.... Просто красавцы.

[@hazze6101]

Приветственные братья Руси из штаб-квартиры Крагуеваца Заставского оружейного завода СФРЮ + СССР =

[@tomt373]

Translation of ^^: The Serbs take any weapon and bring it to the ideal. Their weapons are always very high quality and often much more convenient and high quality compared to the original. They took the K98 Mauser and produced the M48. They took the Soviet TT and produced the M57, which is actually more convenient in the hand compared to the original, and there is a fuse. They took the German MG42 and produced the M53, which retained all the advantages of the German, but the rate of fire was less. You can’t even speak badly about Yugoslav AKs. The quality is just great. M70, M92 .... Just handsome.

[@benjimenfranklin7650]

I have an m57 and it has the safety on the slide. It is not surplus it was made for the American market. It's a great gun. It's better that what 250 will normally buy. You can't go wrong with a zastava M57.

[@terrybrown5402]

I have a great original m57 that has no safety other than the intended half cock hammer safety. Its a beautiful piece and shoots like a cannon. I have a norinco and a polish tokarev as well and of all mine i much prefer the zastava yugoslav m57. They are just wonderful firearms.

[@bordone]

love C&R firearms! I've been collecting since the early 2000's. The M57 is such a cannon.

[@red9man2130]

hi good video. you did miss one more advantage of the "Yugo" m57. The Firing pin is retained browning style instead of a cross pin. It is much easier to replace a firing pin on the m57 as opposed to the other toks.

[@eds4169]

Maybe it's preference? I own both and actually seem to like the standard style more.

[@TheGearhead222]

The later production Zastava Toks are rough as a corncob! Got rid of both of them and kept my milsurp Radom and Cugir Tokarevs-FWIW, the Russians copied an early Browning '03 pocket pistol and basically improved upon it with the Tokarev TT-33-John in Texas

[@DrugBibi]

yugoslavia was not a part of the warsaw pact. it belonged to the non-aligned movement

[@cannonball666]

Yeah, they were independent commies.

[@ilijabosnjak76]

Yugo M57 forever we call it Tetejac,Tetka,Tetko etc..

[@milosvojinovic5583]

@@cannonball666 Actually they were undercover US allies, disguised as socialist country.

[@baki4king]

@@milosvojinovic5583 lies,, while being allied in ww2 with both sides they were really good at holding east and west at distance and that is the reason why they got fkd by west in the 90's

[@chancellorleavitt2729]

Based Tito

[@depluribusunum3128]

I have a M57A manufactured in 2010. It my EDC piece. I use a Smart Carry holster. I gave $220 for it in 2010.

[@derekneumann]

Last year, I was lucky enough to be able to purchase an "excellent condition" Yugo M57 with NO bullshit aftermarket safety drilled into it. It had been imported with a glock style trigger safety, which frankly did nothing to make it safer.... but it beat import laws!!! :) :) I then got an new-old-stock M57 trigger for like $20..... Now I have a badass, about as original as you can get in the US, awesome condition, no BS safety having Yugo M57. Sweet. I haven't even shot it yet... but I should, RIGHT?!

[@GBall_Vision]

Did you get it off classic firearms ? I’m thinking of getting one, my wife is for Father’s Day. I can’t decide between the yugo and the Romanian. The Romanian is in excellent condition right now and the yugo is in good to very good

[@derekneumann]

Yes, I did get it from Classic. I totally scored on that thing. I think that the Yugo is a better gun, 9 rds vs 8 in the Bulgarian. I am sure that the internet will correct me if I am wrong. No matter which version you get, they are awesome, inexpensive, and a smoking fast round..... so cool!!

[@GBall_Vision]

Derek Neumann so go with the Yugo even though the conditions better for the Romanian ? Is that what you’d do?

[@derekneumann]

Yes. That is my opinion. The Yugo holds an extra round, longer grip. You can do some re-blueing to the slide and such if you deem it necessary due to scratches. I re-blued an entire Makarov once, and it turned out great, and I am not a gunsmith. I say get the Yugo, I think it's just a better option.

[@GBall_Vision]

Derek Neumann thanks buddy

[@ivanrossinskiy6207]

Love my Yugo M57. Got it brand new. Never fired !!! Wish ammo was cheaper

[@terrybrown5402]

You can shoot the 7.63 mauser round

[@crackshot4797]

The surplus M57's Classic Firearms most recently got in incorporates a trigger safety not dissimilar to a Glock, instead of the shabby ones installed on previous imports. Nice touch, in my opinion, and I have one on the way from Classic

[@MilsurpWorld]

crackshot47 Steve Miller just commented about that new safety system on his pistol in another comment on this video. It's worth a read.

[@crackshot4797]

North Florida Gun Guy Oh... well, when I get it, I'll replace the trigger. Should be a simple fix, thanks!

[@sisdavid]

@@crackshot4797 what ever happen with this?

[@crackshot4797]

@@sisdavid The trigger on my M57 turned out to be fine, no issues. Trigger pull was still smooth, and it wasn't uncomfortable to shoot for me. I ended up just keeping it

[@sisdavid]

@@crackshot4797 does the hammer still have a 1/2 cock.

[@benjaminthomas2000]

I love my yugo m57, awesome, soft shooter.

[@ak47t-rex37]

I prefer yugos.

[@cannonball666]

Worst car ever made.

[@Sumadinac1914]

cannonball666 Shut up, Yugo rules

[@1001CP]

i KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE OLDER BUT MY 2CENTS KNOWS NO TIME FRAME! i REALLY ENJOY MY M57 ALSO. WORKING ON GETTING THE PPSH SO I HAVE THE PISTOL/RIFLE(MG) COMBO!!! KEEP SHOOTING MY FRIEND!!!

[@mkshffr4936]

Have heard that M57 mags are a bit hard to find.

[@dt5644]

To each his own. i own 3 Tokarev's TT-33, M57 and a Romanian TTC. honestly for me one doesn't out perform another. i grab and shoo the TTC probably more than the others, one extra round does not make or break it for me. all it does for me is a little extra grip, but not a wow factor by any means. one is just as deadly and as accurate as the other. Performance they all are about the same no big differences between them shooting wise. i actually side carry one or the other, randomly daily. But if i see one for sale at the right price am i going to say ohhh that's not a M57, or that not a TTC or that's not a TT-33 i don't want it.......Hell no.... i will buy and trust any model for the right price no questions asked on model. And I'm always looking for them.

[@TheGearhead222]

The Com bloc Vintage Radom TT-33's are the nicest, IMHO, if one cannot find an original Russian TT-33-John in Texas

[@mkshffr4936]

Really like the looks of the Serb.

[@craigsavarese8631]

Yugo M57 all the way. I prefer the extended grip/magazine and the improved recoil spring design.

[@TheGearhead222]

The Zastava factory has been out of commission for awhile now-I confirmed with a Supply Tech and a Doctor at my hospital -both are from former Yugoslavia! Owned two Zastava post M57's and they were rough as a corn cob! Sent one back and sold the other one. Have a Radom and a Cugir Toks, although everyone knows that the Cugir factory shut door years ago:(-John in Texas

[@roknikov]

Really?, in Serbia this pistol enjoys a great reputation. What calibre and year were they? As far is i've heard from professional users, zastava very good quality weapons as far as the military ones are concerned

[@ilijabosnjak76]

I have Russian TT33 made in 1943 a true piece of History,,,also I have M57 Yugo with the Yugo Crest since I was born in ex Yugoslavia it's a must in my collection...Our names for gun is TETEJAC,TETAK,TETKA etc...I prefer Yugo with longer handle and extra round,fit and finish is beautiful and nicely blued.... And no safeties on mine since I live in Canada....Price,,, they go around $300 CAD...Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦

[@milosvojinovic5583]

Must have brate!!!

[@dkruitz]

I really recommend folks look into the older Norinco 213 or the modern Zastava variants in 9 mm. Having them in 9 mm makes them much easier to keep loaded instead of the 7.62 by 25 round

[@seafront1]

great vid, thanks

[@bradh6185]

I got a surplus M57 this week. Will the new M57A mags work in?

[@abrekansar]

Just bought M57 here in Canada for 230$ 👌👌

[@Largo5441]

MashaAllah from Turkey

[@superdave6415]

How is it it’s on my list of maybe pistols when i get rpal

[@abrekansar]

@@superdave6415 oh I love it

[@superdave6415]

@@abrekansar so it’s worth the 230-260

[@abrekansar]

@@superdave6415 100%

[@johnedgeworth5028]

very nice comparison. the vid was short but long enough for an excellent comparison. I appreciate your time and work. Just a note, your gave some great info on the history, 1895, to TTC30, to Markov. Maybe a slightly longer vid who a little more info would be appreciated by folks(me for one)

[@vedrantrkulja3108]

Yugoslavia was not a part of the Warsaw pact...

[@bulllea]

... but was almost invaded by it .

[@terrybrown5402]

You don't have to have the mag safety to put in the mag on the m57. I took mine out and no issues at all.

[@lensperspective9753]

Hows the surplus market in Utah, still? When I was a kid there it was great, pawn shops would have old c&r single shots, HandR, too, heading back to visit memory lane.

[@russream3732]

I just picked up a 1941 Russian TT33 with no importer “name” marks or external Safety Added (very low prize, I will tell you in the email). Is there a way I can send you photos - can you share any knowledge you have. The Serial Number is Two Cyrillic letters followed by four numbers. Grip panels have the Star with CCCP on both sides. Top of the slide has the serial number again, also what looks like a small STAR and then the year 1941. The bluing is very nice (small bluing wear mark on both sides of the end of the slide), looks like it was put in a drawer and forgotten. Thank you.

[@olhemi1]

🙂👍☕ great job on the video

[@tommygun6028]

Great Review !!!!!!!

[@kepofshangri-la8942]

Where can I find an M57 with the safety at the back of the frame?

[@abba5062]

I prefer Romanian because of the interchangeable parts with other TT variance

[@SonOfTheDawn515]

If I were to ever get a Tokarev, it would be a Yugo.

[@Toolness1]

While the Polish models have the best fit and finish out of all of them IMO, the T57 is the best to shoot and work on since it has the captured recoil spring. The longer grip fits my hand way better and you get an extra round. The machine work is pretty rough but it doesn't impact function.

[@scorpiocat69]

Was it necessary to modify the 9-rnd mag to "seat" properly in the 8-rnd TT-C Romanian? I've seen a comment elsewhere stating that. Thanks in advance. Nice vid.

[@turtlewolfpack6061]

The tt30 was not based on the 1911, it was an improved Browning 1900 and likely had John Brownings hands on the design, perhaps with a touch of Russian vodka via Tokarev himself. Also, many M57s came with the safety by design-not cheesy American retrofit like the other tt pistols are butchered with.

[@Sandhill1988]

I heard that the thumb safeties on the Yugo were Factory.

[@maximilianfranz2158]

Because they are sometimes made for export.

[@luckyluciano4075]

Thanks! Good video! Tokarev 7.62>

[@heartoflions7138]

They didn’t arbitrarily name it the M57; 57 refers to the year of adoption. There is reason behind it.

[@HI-os2pm]

The Romanian TTC was manufactured in the city of Cugir. That what it means the C.

[@MilsurpWorld]

3:00

[@hquiller]

How much they go for? Would be nice to have one, but I'll need the one with the longer grip. I'm over 6 feet tall, have big hands. Dont want to use a pistol and grab it with only 4 fingers...

[@MilsurpWorld]

I think M57s are around 300 but I haven't really kept up with them.

[@thatxonexguy5438]

CreepingDeath 209 on SOG www.southernohiogun.com/handguns/surplus-handguns/yugoslavian-m57-tt-tokarev-pistol-7-62x25-cal.html

[@ilijabosnjak76]

Here in Canada they are about $300 M57 Yugo... I got Russian for $270 at the door delivered...Russian is 1943 original a true piece of History...Yugo is much better with longer handle and extra round....

[@Largo5441]

@@ilijabosnjak76 Lucky Boschnak greetings from Turkey

[@sanfordhoffman2392]

Great looking pistols. My brother loves the Tokarev. We live in CA so you never know what's allowed and what's not. He's looking into seeing if he can have one in this state :( How much do they run on average?

[@MilsurpWorld]

Depending on a lot of factors now import marks, how terrible the safety is, ect they around 300-400. I think the Romanian ones go for more but I'm not sure of current prices.

[@sanfordhoffman2392]

North Florida Gun Guy Good info. Thanks. Keep up the vids. Good channel.

[@stevecoltharp6673]

I just picked up a m57 from southern Ohio gun 250$ shipped, waiting for shipping now... but if look for the right model, .you can get the surplus ones in California on a curio and relics license. The yugo is what they have for sale as surplus...used but can get in California

[@scorpiocat69]

Purchased two (2) TT-C Romanians last year $425 for both. So less than $225/gun. Used condition but both very nice shape. Although 8-rnd mags are hard to find, I'll use the 9-rnd mags available on-line for $20ea.

[@worldtravelling7648]

Zastava m57 original yogosalvia is better..I have

[@devanjackson8156]

Probably draw a heavier influence from the 1903-1908 PISTOLS... NOT REALLY 1911's.

[@Kvasir-thewise1]

That mag safety on the yugo can easily be fixed by removing the left grip panel and removing a a thin bar, there are videos that explain it well

[@jmichna1]

You can even get away with slightly bending that bar a teensy bit, so it stays out of the way; leaves it in place should a future owner want that "feature" restored.

[@TheHistorian1066]

Anyone got any idea how to get my hands on an M57 in Germany?

[@schrodingersgat4344]

I carry the Cugir. It's my EDC gun. {Should have seen the faces of my Concealed Carry permit class mates.} I wish this cartridge would be embraced by American companies.

[@billredding2000]

I used my Romanian Tokarev in my LTC class here in TX. At that time (late 2016) TX LTC rules required one to qualify with a handgun "32 caliber or larger" so technically, my Tokarev was "under-qualified" even though it's power outclasses many handguns "32 or higher." Fortunately, I convinced my LTC instructor that "it's really close to .32 bullet-diameter-wise" by comparing empty .32ACP and 7.62x25 case-mouths (almost identical openings) and he allowed me to use it for the shooting part of the LTC permit class. I hope he could see when I was firing it was PLENTY powerful despite it not being "32 or larger" caliber. Later on, TX changed it's law and allowed one to use ANY caliber (even .22LR) for the class...so I guess I'm okay. ;-) -- BR

[@stevemiller7433]

I have purchased 2 Yugo M57's and neither of them work very well, one, not at all. And yes, I have thoroughly cleaned off all the cosmoline.

[@stevemiller7433]

Question: My M57 has no "safety" per se.. No lever on the slide or on the frame... it has a crude "trigger"safety...looking rather like a modern pistol with an articulated piece of horrifyingly sharp steel in the trigger. The trigger pull is horrendous and gritty... I would not feel safe shooting it without gloves.... what is with this adaptation?

[@MilsurpWorld]

Sounds like a failed attempt of someone adding a safety so that it can be imported. If I was you I would try and replace the trigger.

[@stevemiller7433]

I have sent a letter to Classic Firearms, from whom I bought it..... it was not what I expected. I will look into changing out the trigger, if the parts are cheap... it might be worth while.

[@sisdavid]

@@stevemiller7433 does it have half cock, with the trigger?

[@johnthemelis8517]

@@sisdavid yes the m57 has half cock saftey

[@plausibleg.3170]

My new Zastava M57A required gunsmithing for the trigger. Avoid It and get a used TT. The pistol is great other than that.

[@nenadcubric2663]

Yugo is better

[@TheKurtPrice]

"really really bad stupid import laws". Because they require a safety to be installed? Do you want a one page law about needing a manual safety or a 40 page law that details every existing firearm and which safeties each must have and then additional rules for firearms that aren't yet made for import?

[@MrQ454]

Cugir (Romanian pronunciation: [kuˈd͡ʒir]

[@Boris5501]

Yugo M57 is much better.

[@Amonny]

It's CUGIR. Like... COUGAR, but with an I instead of an A. COUGIR.

[@hasanincioglu3139]

Fiyatı kaç lira satlikmi

[@backapalanka7015]

TETEAC YOU EXTRA GUNS TT 7.62. MAGNUM.44......357..EXTRA PISTOL 😎💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫

[@sorcyo]

Cugir ...Coo-gee-rrrr

[@sgt_malice4521]

I don’t understand how the safety works on the Romanian

[@genghisvaughan952]

fury The vengeful one the safety works just like the Yugo. It’s just placed just off the front top corner. It’s weird. It feels like it would get in your way while trying to hit the mag release.

[@superdave6415]

In 🇨🇦no added safety

[@Fed556]

I’m sorry man but I gotta say you look depressed as hell, and certainly for good reason since you don’t get paid by KZbin anymore. Set up a Patreon and really sell each and every gun you review whether you like the gun or hate it, express both with the upmost motivation.

[@MilsurpWorld]

I pick it up more in my recent videos, this is me from almost 3 years ago.

[@Fed556]

Milsurp World I believe you are correct, I shall go fuck myself good sir

[@MilsurpWorld]

No worries, I appreciate you commenting. Making videos is a fairly long process and I usually record them after work in the evening when I am getting tired and it tends to show on my face more than others.

[@nebojsha78]

No Yugo Serbian product

[@666toysoldier]

Yammer, yammer, yammer. Condense it, get to the point. Lots of info that had nothing to do with a differential evaluation.

[@cannonball666]

Romanian guns in general are lower quality than Yugoslavian.

[@pufycino1431]

Says who??

[@bulllea]

romanian PSL chambered in 7.62x54R nick named "the poor man's Dragunov" is spread ALL OVER THE WORLD and fought in all wars since it's introduction . show me a yugoslavian weapon with such popularity .

[@lalykhan7581]

I Need one pice 57 gun in pakistan

[@lalykhan7581]

How Much 57 pistal

[@Joshua-hz3cl]

he seems so disinterested doing this video. its off putting

[@MilsurpWorld]

Just tired

[@Joshua-hz3cl]

@@MilsurpWorld sorry, still a good video. Lost of information.

[@jonc2914]

Neither, 7.62x25 is too expensive

[@marcelarmas5817]

Its a collector gun you wont shoot IT every weekeend I have an m57 and I shoot it maybe 3 times a year probably like 200 or 300 rounds so im not gonna go broke for that

[@dougstephens985]

Need to buy in bulk or reload. I am doing both.

[@lekedukagjini161]

How much goes the ammo

[@dougstephens985]

@Bighorn44 None S&GAmmo