It's definitely a board I want to own and use for some time. I've only ever tried one briefly at meetups and I really liked the feel. I think your review was really fair and you explained what the HHKB means to many people.
@breadtoucher7 жыл бұрын
That't the thing with this keyboard, it grows on you! First you think you bought overpriced piece of plastic, then you use it for some time... Then you try and switch to other keyboard and you just go back. Layout, aesthetics, feel and sound of this keyboard is unmatched. It is perfect. Just ordered mine after a long few months of deciding. It should arrive in 2 weeks time. Can't wait for it! As programmer and UNIX/Emacs enthusiast I find this keyboard perfect for my needs and my environment.
@cynexyl7 жыл бұрын
The plastic construction makes it even more attractive to me, carrying it around is way easier that way. I also got mine used at a super low price, so that means I don't have the emotional attachment of "I paid a fortune in this so I must like it" and still one of my favorite boards. Its layout is lovely once you get used to it and it surely looks really great. The price could be a lot lower for sure, that board is not "worth" 220 USD. But at the same time, if it was a 99 USD board, I feel it would not get nearly as much love from the community as it currently does. Kind of a luxury item for sure, but I love mine.
@datvu65 жыл бұрын
I got mine today for 105 USD!
@rasterroo5 жыл бұрын
@@datvu6 how did you find one at that price? I assume used, and buying it off someone else? cause I can't find it anywhere online for under 200 :(
@datvu65 жыл бұрын
@@rasterroo yeah I bought it used. I was just wandering around some Facebook marketplaces, saw it and bought it immediately. If you don't mind buying used, try to lurk around on r/mechmarket. The longevity of these board are quite insane so they shouldn't be too bad. The price of those Pro2 often vary from $150 to $170, sometimes they even come with modifications from previous owner. I'd say it's totally worth it at that price point.
@beebbeenhorn42454 жыл бұрын
Best non RGB keyboard made in Japan I know the sound of it is very clicky but is a quiet clicky sound however so much batter then a normal keyboard clicky but Is for does people who hates RGB.
@beerkegaard4 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I barely used the keyboard the first year I owned it. Now 3-4 years later, I love it.
@linchtrades3 жыл бұрын
Probably the rubber dome becomes stiffer and makes it snipper? I heard topre age really well
@ianpan01026 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing this review! Your video was one of the reasons I decided to buy the HHKB, and I'm ABSOULUTELY loving it right now.
@adam-nw5cn4 жыл бұрын
"i bet there's a fair few who just force themselves to like it because of the emotional and financial investment" 😂😂 this hit home
@pleinairpan7 жыл бұрын
I thought my day wouldn't get any better but then I saw this video. Thanks for making me more happy.
@kopuz.co.uk.5 жыл бұрын
That's a YIKES from me
@davidjohnston42405 жыл бұрын
For those of us who worked on Apple 2s and Sun workstations in the 70s, 80s and 90s, we know what we lost when they moved the control key and replaced it with the caps lock. That location for ctrl fits perfectly with unix editors. As soon as HHKB came out, I got one and the right placement of ctrl was restored. I've been using them for years and there is nothing to compare with them for programming. Whatever the issues you might have with plastic and rattles, this stuff is irrelevant compared to the keys being the right place, having a nice typing feel and not having to move my hand for navigation.
@jaylansiquot61305 жыл бұрын
Hey if you're using macOS you can actually rebind the caps lock to ctrl in settings natively. Again assuming you have a Mac.
@davidjohnston42405 жыл бұрын
@@jaylansiquot6130 I use a HHKB on my work windows machine and home windows machine. On my mac laptop, I do remap it.
@davidjohnston42404 жыл бұрын
@@strugglepresident3779 In the bottom left and right corners. Not ideal.
@davidjohnston42404 жыл бұрын
@@strugglepresident3779 Who made you the rule maker on what to press the ctrl key with? Ctrl middle left work fine with my little finger. What's wrong with yours? Leftmost key - leftmost finger.
@DoRC7 жыл бұрын
I just looked at the price...... Jeez
@daizuzuunfauxalgerien77425 жыл бұрын
4k
@okno69824 жыл бұрын
i got for 350$ only from amazon
@cjeffcoatjr4 жыл бұрын
Buy it used, I got an HHKB Type-S Professional 2 (In incredible condition, barely 6 months old when I bought it) for $210 on r/MechMarket. I can say with a lot of confidence that it has both improved how I type and was an incredible purchase. Maybe the best I have made so far this year.
@yeezet45924 жыл бұрын
All the topre ones are expensive
@Meekmelly4 жыл бұрын
@@okno6982 fake lol
@nasxen14635 жыл бұрын
Best mechanical switch ever. I have a modified HHKB with 55g domes, lubed and silenced. Best experience ever.
@MrClassicmetal4 жыл бұрын
It's not mechanical!
@offbrandbiscuit2 жыл бұрын
@@MrClassicmetal It is. The term is a misnomer anyway, but by most logical definitions, Topre counts. If Topre didn't count just because it uses rubber domes as a part of its assembly, things like the IBM Model M wouldn't count just because it uses a membrane sheet instead of a PCB, despite being one of the most famous mechs of all time.
@sprainbrains7 жыл бұрын
I have one. Awesome keyboard. Now i'm waiting HHKB Pro BT in White)
@blooberrymuffin697 жыл бұрын
I love my HHKB Pro 2 but I'd really love to see them update the materials and change it up a little bit.
@derkaiser98814 жыл бұрын
For me I just really want to see USB-C on a model that's not $300+ or wireless just because.
@JackiePrime6 жыл бұрын
Dunno how long you used the board as you said it was a loaner, but with any board you have to give it quite a bit of time. For example my filco with blues was my favourite board for about two months and then I begun to loathe it. The noise is so cheap and grating and my fingers kept getting pains. My realforce and HHKB2 didn’t impress me out of the gate but they’ve had staying power. After many years of use I can say it’s not hype and it’s not sunk cost fallacy. They’re just awesome boards. It’s taken me years to fall out of love with cherry switches. Gradually I just found it harder and harder to go back to using them. They feel like a toy now.
@timdai63964 жыл бұрын
Those who haven't used it but rather "test" and throw it away, or pressing down some keys and tell people "oh this key is shaky", you don't need this board. This is for those who want them to work, want the board it self to last decade and have no issues at all.
@toshiisomura57584 жыл бұрын
Tim Dai im confused, so why not get a mechanical keyboard thats 1/3 of the price? I don’t understand why someone would drop $350 on a keyboard like this - like some of the key’s quality was just subpar
@mikesunboxing7 жыл бұрын
Might have to try one of these, thanks
@mxandrew2 жыл бұрын
i know nothing about the mechanical keyboard hobby, i ended up buying the pro 2 hybrid because i found it cheap from a reputable seller on ebay and liked the sound of the specs from what i was reading. I then went to look up reviews from hobbyists and low and behold people actually like it a lot lol.
@chang81065 жыл бұрын
Typing sounds so good. Just like mine
@seconduk7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, thank you
@bart234956 жыл бұрын
I fell in love right when I saw it, then I noticed there’s no control key in the bottom left, I use L-ctrl in almost every game I play and when browsing
@pyrotechnic966 жыл бұрын
Yeah its in the caplock position which is way more convenient
@KingofHearts676 жыл бұрын
I still don't see what makes this keyboard so expensive. Its basically a rubber dome with springs, well actually that's exactly what it is, and I can't imagine springs and rubber domes being more expensive to manufacture than a full on mechanism like normal mechanical keyboards have. Combined with the fact that it's all plastic and with all the issues you mentioned and that you need to buy a seperate controller for blue tooth and extended programmability I just do not see the value.
@rousseau3276 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, it's the topre switches. Everything from its capacitive PCB, to the non-uniform spring shape, rubber material for longevity, makes it more expensive than injection molding some plastic parts. If other mechanical keyboards utilized topre switches, the cost would skyrocket as well.
@kissu_io5 жыл бұрын
True that there is a lot of decent bluetooth KB...
@BookClubDisaster Жыл бұрын
Made in Japan. Higher manufacturing cost because they're a first world country that has to pay their workers first world salaries. Cheaper keyboards are almost made in China and sometimes even designed in China these days.
@vincetang75487 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! A review of the Leopold fc660c would make a great vid!
@葱娘の酥皮可乐6 жыл бұрын
This keyboard is good for high-volume typing people such as professional blogger, writer and programmer. I have five keyboards that for different purpose. This one is purely for writing.
@kissu_io5 жыл бұрын
@Vitez od Vozdovca haha, what a pleb.
@DiamondDead5 жыл бұрын
@@kissu_io Any co-worker at an IT firm would kick your ass into oblivion if you would be typing all day with such a high volume keyboard. It's annoying and distracting as fuck.
@jimhendrix15174 жыл бұрын
deskey silencing rings or just get a type-s
@BookClubDisaster Жыл бұрын
@@DiamondDead I mean Topre isn't really loud. Not even in the same galaxy as MX Blue or buckling springs.
@lethalforce6567 жыл бұрын
Bout time. This has been my primary driver for about two years now. Easily the best board I've ever used or owned.
@strongchad81307 жыл бұрын
Not as good as a Realforce board, but its still great.
@Kristmascane7 жыл бұрын
IF realforce made a 60% i would consider picking one up but tkl and fullsize are just eyesores for me tbh
@strongchad81307 жыл бұрын
i do agree that the hhkb is more aesthetic, but the feel on the realforce is much better.
@김지호-t3n7 жыл бұрын
then you clearly haven't tried kustoms with fully lubed and stickered vint blacks
@김지호-t3n7 жыл бұрын
not really. just get nib wyse or greetech blacks if you want cheap. g80 1000 series or 3000 series for more expensive stuff.
@FortuneBullet7 жыл бұрын
Finally...after a long waiting...
@yellqw80673 жыл бұрын
I use my dad's old hhkb lite 2, its membrane and its really old, this thing is soo reliable though. Im going to make a custom gk61 when i get the money, but this keyboard has been amazing. The control above shift is the best thing ever too, im never going back to a conventional control
@thisusedtobemyrealname787611 ай бұрын
I have never got the point why caps lock is in such a prominent position in keyboards. It never made sense to me to just to capitalize one letter I turn something on and off again, I just use shift. Only time I use it if there are several letters in all caps in a row which does not happen often. And even then because of muscle memory I just use shift. Having control in that place makes so much sense and now I want it! 😂
@rednight24766 жыл бұрын
It's a programmers keyboard. It has the same layout as Terminals, Unix Workstation keyboards, and most older PCs. This layout is ideal for using command line and other text based software. I have no idea what you use the caps lock for, or why it even still exists.
@Cyortonic6 жыл бұрын
How do you yell without caps lock? Do you actually hold shift down?
@Analekt6 жыл бұрын
exactly and that helps with anger management.
@ianzen6 жыл бұрын
@@tobyworland5857 if you're using vim, you can type the variables in lowercase and change them to uppercase.
@tormenmashi_4 жыл бұрын
idk why but the scratchyness of the hhkb gives it its charm
@johnsihn45206 жыл бұрын
R u ever going to review the FC660C??
@TaeKeyboards6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps one day :)
@johnsihn45206 жыл бұрын
I'm typing on mine right now :) I wanted to send mine to someone for review, but now I am seriously considering trading it away for a lubed and silenced HHKB Pro 2. No, not becuase I don't like the board, but just cause I want to know what the HHKB experience is actually like.
@johnsihn45206 жыл бұрын
Got my Leo back and bought an hhkb separately!
@greyareaRK17 жыл бұрын
I got a Paradise V60 with Matias switches. I love the switches (after modifying them), but I still don't see the point of a 60% board. My next will be a TKL, followed by a numpad. Then an IBM Model M.
@ValVenusaur7 жыл бұрын
If you're planning on getting both a Model F and a TKL board, get an IBM Model F. It's a tenkeyless buckling spring board. I love it and just typed this comment on it :)
@MrHenreee7 жыл бұрын
the point is that it's small
@iLiokardo6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the Vortex ViBe is for you. A 60% but with a numpad. If you're worried about the nav cluster being gone, just note that you don't have to move your whole hand just to reach that part of the keyboard, you use the fn key.
@snackskazam5 жыл бұрын
I love those key caps on your Anne Pro; any chance you have a link for those still?
@nikoringo5 жыл бұрын
Looks like Hyperfuse keycaps.
@SlimeScholar4 жыл бұрын
Na, thats not Hyperfuse.. lol..
@tyler943024 жыл бұрын
@@SlimeScholar lmaoooo
@SlimeScholar4 жыл бұрын
@@tyler94302 huh??
@pinch-of-salt Жыл бұрын
the hhkb keyboard is overrated however the hhkb/tsangan layout is very nice!!
@HousePlant_Ambient2 жыл бұрын
I love everything about it except the branding and price.
@SubterraneanChick4 жыл бұрын
The more of hype, the more scratchy sounds. HHKB PRO 2 (vs. Realforce or Leopold FC660c), Cherry MX Brown (vs. Kailh Box or Gaterons), Keychron K6 && K4 (K series all); A few others escape me atm. Danke.
@mcooper25056 жыл бұрын
I've gone from TKL to 75% and love it and am considering 68 or 65 but I think 60% is just over complicating things although considering cheap modular for the purpose of trying out different switches it really depends on the price point at the time
@KeiBrightwing4 жыл бұрын
That typing demonstration sounds a lot like my Anne Pro 2 with Kailh Box Reds. The same sort of rattly sound.
@SubterraneanChick4 жыл бұрын
Kicked my GF out and purchased two.
@henriii96475 жыл бұрын
I found 2 place that sells this on amazon , one is from PFU , one is from Happy Hacking Keyboard ( the link in ur description) , r they the same and just from different sellers or they r something different ?
@shikane99915 жыл бұрын
I know im late but would you think that it would be good for gaming i love the look alot.
@choke-5 жыл бұрын
any keyboard is good for gaming. just depends if you like the switch or not to be honest
@shikane99915 жыл бұрын
@@choke- okay thanks
@FunRider0083 жыл бұрын
When you spend that much amount on keyboard then you have to convince yourself that why you loved this.
@johnsihn45206 жыл бұрын
I don't think the sound is from a spring. From my experience, it's a misaligned dome... but who knows :p
@Kristmascane7 жыл бұрын
Also, lubing the hhkb will make you prefer it.
@TaeKeyboards7 жыл бұрын
Indeed. But it's not the switches that's the problem for me. I already like Topre. I'm just lazy, and like at least a 65% :)
@faciality6 жыл бұрын
sounds like u will love the fc660c
@scharkalvin7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a bit TOO minimal for me. I have an IBM model 'M' space saver (same layout as standard Model M, but no numeric keypad). This keyboard is a bit wider and taller than the HHK because it has the extra cursor cluster keys on the right, and the function keys on an extra top row. And of course, it has the famous bucking spring switches. Since I really have no use for the numeric keypad, this keyboard is my favorite. (also it's built like a TANK). Having said that, If the HHK had built in bluetooth, It would be the perfect travel keyboard to go along with my thinkpad (that and a BT mouse).
@eddiesuen83706 жыл бұрын
I have to say that i like the topre switches. Great tactile feel with the topre switches. I was able to pick one up a used on for $50 usd. The seller knew what he had. He just was not using it and the usb connector is a little loose. Any fix for that?
@SubterraneanChick4 жыл бұрын
A subtle blue hue to the grey keycaps? Or just my eyesight off?
@SubterraneanChick4 жыл бұрын
Lots of rationalization where other brands have faulted. But...eventually, it works. Too many Hall Passes for my liking. Very just and fair review here. Couldn't do better with conclusion.
@OnThe1006 жыл бұрын
How to use typical hotkeys on it? Such as Ctrl+Ins, Shift+Ins, Ctrl+Ноme, Ctrl+End, Win+D, Win+Tab Alt+F4
@phamhainam55105 жыл бұрын
Please where can i buy the super mario keyboard in the video please. I really love it 1:16
@SlimisfyingASMR5 жыл бұрын
The keyboard is Anne Pro with yellow case + Super Mario Bros Keycaps
I wonder what would happen if you lubed the springs
@semont61437 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Chinese Topre clone switches that you'd find from Royal Kludge and Plum/Niz?
@MrLamborghiny7 жыл бұрын
Nice review! But can you also do a review on leopold fc980c?
@TaeKeyboards7 жыл бұрын
Would be pretty tough to get I would think. Would be awesome though :)
@rafindeed5 жыл бұрын
I really dont see where this price is going.
@louisgarbour27374 жыл бұрын
That's just topre boards. They are always overpriced. Not that they are bad, just overpriced.
@JackOfHarts964 жыл бұрын
Wow your HHKB sounded really scratchy... I haven't even lubed mine, and it does not sound like that.
@swayiglesias6 жыл бұрын
why can’t they make a normal 60% topre keyboard
@mvargasmoran6 жыл бұрын
Boy ever since I use Emacs a long time ago (Now I use mostly and IDE.. yeah say what you want) but from like 2011 I've always made the caps lock into a new Ctrl key (not swap, I just have 2 ctrl... but I mostly forget about the bottom row one). This keyboard looks really good to me in terms of layout... but... yeah it looks cheap. Is there any other keyboard with the Ctrl key in the home row??? but in 60%, 65% or 75%???
@Cyortonic6 жыл бұрын
It's a DIY kit, but the Tina Keyboard from KBDFans has a similar layout which uses Cherry compatible switches and is all aluminum.
@iSuperBlack7 жыл бұрын
one question please and i need answer cuz i dont want waste my money .. is hhkb really worth it? the size very very satisfying for me .. but im scared i wont get use on it cuz im addict to cherry mx..
@CosmicFists7 жыл бұрын
I took the chance and got the HHKB about a year ago, and I haven't regretted it since. Once you get used to the layout, you'll never want to go back.
@LarsKniep6 жыл бұрын
wow, the price doesn't make sense
@nekososu5 жыл бұрын
just like people still buying apple products
@rcoh47 жыл бұрын
My favourite keyboard!
@vldt59344 жыл бұрын
Hi Filos. Does HHKB ship in the Philippines? Or do we have dealers here? :
@istsamtonca4 жыл бұрын
Why should one pay so much for a keyboard that has no replaceable switches and full of production issues?
@UncommonS3nse6 жыл бұрын
This video really highlights that it's type-s or nothing for me
@curiouscase48267 жыл бұрын
Did you figure out where the spring noise comes from or how to fix it?
@curiouscase48267 жыл бұрын
Haha I was typing my comment too quickly. I tried the same thing but as you said; it just helps somewhat. Makes me hate HHKB from time to time! Appreciate the reply.
@curiouscase48267 жыл бұрын
yeee no worries!
@lawbinson Жыл бұрын
Funny how this layout is the daily driver now
@uglypotata61107 жыл бұрын
I love TKL key broad :D 🔥🔥
@povilaskirna41085 жыл бұрын
Why does it exist like if you dont have Ctrl than you have to do everything with your mouse?
@Jarofcatpiss5 жыл бұрын
ctrl is where capslock is on this board
@saibamoe5 жыл бұрын
happy to see problems with such high end expensive stuff I'm happy for my topre clone niz plum - it's almost perfect just the enter stabs on the right sounds ish but the space bar is perfect and it was way cheaper than happyhacking
@yungrandd47227 жыл бұрын
np bro
@sguzaki45456 жыл бұрын
how can you use the windows key for this one, it's useful to me
@adavila785 жыл бұрын
Ctrl + esc
@DisplayDriver6 жыл бұрын
I have a keyboard that uses Cherry MX Clears but I love these switches. Is it even possible to replace my switches with these?
@vijayapragasalmuniandy80287 жыл бұрын
Can it run Crysis?
@357mview26 жыл бұрын
Is it good for gaming?
@nanorivera52335 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen something use mini USB for at least like ten years.
@ivango11827 жыл бұрын
Any cheap 60 mech kb with brown switch?
@t.h.98973 жыл бұрын
This ist what COVID does to you. Before I was perfectly fine with any keyboard. Now I only use Topre 45g silents
@Frizzyfr6 жыл бұрын
1:38 what keycaps are those under
@TaeKeyboards6 жыл бұрын
An old Super Mario Bros. set from KBDfans. They haven't been available for a long while.
@roxelbr5 жыл бұрын
Are these kind of keyboards available in Spanish?
@cfzone86856 жыл бұрын
Even the Redragon Kumara has rubber feet...
@gabsriel4 жыл бұрын
Hi, vs Niz Atom (45g version) ?
@davehuisman82414 жыл бұрын
Buy the NIZ. HHKBs are overpriced pieces of shit.
@JackOfHarts965 жыл бұрын
Why are the subtitles that bad?
@paddymcc74605 жыл бұрын
I think it’s pretty expensive at 260$
@claudiobrt6525 ай бұрын
buying this in 2024 for 50 quid makes even more sense.
@samlee4585 жыл бұрын
Hello. Which keycaps are better quality with nice sound, not looking for high end or super expensive. Ducky, vortex or maxkeys keycaps? Thx Tae
@gierbryantevaristo89137 жыл бұрын
Hey Tae, you should review the Rakk Kimat XT.2. It has an aluminium backplate, rgb, and side printed keycaps. It only costs 50 usd Edit: 50 USD XD
@coffeegerm7 жыл бұрын
But is it worth the price? You can get other boards for nearly half the price with the same experience.
@rich10514147 жыл бұрын
Hell no. This keyboard is for apple only braggers who cannot function without brand appeal compensating for a lack of character. For the same price, you can get so much more.
@TaeKeyboards7 жыл бұрын
This is pretty much the only board that offers this specific kind of experience. It's alternatives all have different characteristics.
@dennisli40855 жыл бұрын
i do think that white print for black version should be applied to
@MarshallCommons-y4w4 ай бұрын
Georgianna Crest
@SubterraneanChick4 жыл бұрын
At this price point, I better feel 1337 day one!
@jumbba696 жыл бұрын
You say the spacebar is rattly but it's nothing compared to my keyboard. I think you'll want to burn my keyboard when you try it for the first time.
@LucilaSpinka-o7y4 ай бұрын
Rowland Corners
@EaselCat4 жыл бұрын
The price lol.
@Rankhole1235 жыл бұрын
The switches sound very rattly imo... Also, the layout just completely kills it for me.
@MrClassicmetal4 жыл бұрын
How about the completely plastic construction, zero metal plate, and ridiculous price?
@4clive6 жыл бұрын
The second USB/A port would be useful to plug in a decent keyboard.
@Molehasmoles5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the greatest keyboards out there. I don't see your point.
@klondikebar40397 жыл бұрын
can anyone suggest me a good tenkeyless mechanical keyboard to start off customizing keyboards? thanks in advance
@UndetectableSn1per7 жыл бұрын
Check out Drevo keyboards
@AbbottOswald-h4r4 ай бұрын
Lamar Crest
@FindTheMasterpiece7 жыл бұрын
Why are you saying "Heych Heych" instead of "Eych Eych"? Is this the correct pronunciation?