War on the Sea | IJN Campaign | Ep.2 - Carrier-ing On from Our Good Start!

[@neilharbott8394]

Recent patch changed how campaign works - less CP for kills, more CP for holding bases. Carriers must be released to replenish aircraft. You don't get CP credit for released ships until the repair/restock of aircraft is complete.

[@joestiller4270]

Not a liker of the new update from kills to holding bases for more CP.

[@neilharbott8394]

@@joestiller4270 It does force you to spread yourself very thin in order to maximize CP income in the early game. Otherwise your growth is constant and slow, with little bonus for successes in battle.

[@joestiller4270]

I understand that yea, but its like a base/city build game more now whilst before, it was an case of go out and find kill enemy, now players have got to weigh up the cost of resupply of the ammo and planes used. Its still a Great game just a different strategy type now to use. LOL

[@faamecanic1970]

@@joestiller4270 IM with you on not liking the new changes. Especially the Release and Repair.... it is forcing you to Repair which can REALLY hurt if you do it at the beginning of a week or if ship is badly damaged. Wouldnt complain about it as much if the enemy didnt have an endless supply of command points.

[@devrossik]

Note: You can change the rules about when you get command points back for released ships and releasing carriers to get planes replenished. As you are starting a campaign, before you click the Start button, click the Settings button, then turn off "Refund Command Points Post Rest & Repair" and "New Carrier Aircraft Require Release". If you have already started a campaign, it is possible to change these rules by editing the save game file, setting "refundPostRepair" and "carrierWingsRequireRelease" to false.

[@colindouglas7769]

Taff, I think you need to take your emperor's advice and commission a few more submarines at the moment. You only have two and that's a lot of sea out there. Don't deploy them in wolfpacks, you will cover more sea using them singly. Also, don't waste torpedoes through impulsiveness and impatience. When your submarine was spotted by the enemy spotter plane, it was pointless to continue your attack. You would have been better advised to just dive away and hold onto to your torpedoes to use later. Once again, investing in more submarines would be a good move as they are your most effective means of carrying the fight in the early part of the campaign.

[@devrossik]

Nice work sinking that carrier! Be aware that the USN has many more, and they will persist in sending out a new carrier each time you sink one. Don't feel bad about not sinking that battleship. In some cases, simply causing heavy damage to the major capital ships in a group will force the whole group to turn back --- nearly as good as sinking those ships.

[@lucasfan5558]

Not sure about this, I sank Wasp, Hornet and saratoga in the first 4 weeks and so far have not found the Enterprise, even with 5 subs and Zeros looking everywhere ao sul of Rennel.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Lucky those torps went through the gap of the destroyer screen, and hit the carrier ! :D timed to perfection.

[@bimmerbomber2002]

Great playthrough so far Taff! My only suggestion is that when I play the game, I wait until my ships spot the incoming torpedos before I make any moves, even if I see them myself, just to give the AI a chance. If you dodge as soon as you the player sees them, or if you preemptively dodge because you can intuit you're about to be attacked by a sub, then you're never going to have a risk of being torpedo'd. It's a little unfair imho, the AI struggles enough as it is lol

[@Raio_Verusia]

I gotta go back and watch your USN campaign, can't get enough of your format and chill nature!

[@dannybroughton6444]

histrically speaking american damage control was superb with multiple advanced systems on their large ships to aid in firefighting and flooding. plus american crews were trained to handle a variety of situations including massive fires, ammo detonations, flooding, bombs and more. while most historians focused on us carriers shrugging off mortal blows battleships were also capable of this feat as well

[@tannermaynard5991]

As someone else pointed out, you have to release the carriers to replenish the aircraft. Makes them a little less powerful (since two carrier groups are nearly unstoppable). Additionally, you're going to find that only two aircraft will be replaced per day at airfields. Makes losing them a little more impactful.

[@geordiedog1749]

Looks like quite a decent game. Been on the look out for a good immersive naval warfare game. Those LongLance fish are deadly.

[@mato5758]

Take note,Taff.....I`ve found US carriers seem to hang out south or south-east of Rennell Island,so deploy single subs (not wolf-packs) in those areas and have search planes do there too. If you deploy 3 or 4 single subs (not wolf-packs) right near New Hebrides,you`ll catch the enemy coming out of port,before they get a chance to run riot. People may notice that over the last few months,I`ve wrote about not using wolf-packs,as there is at least one,maybe two,occasions in the US campaign, where Taff concentrated on one of his subs evading destroyers,but neglected the other sub,and it was sunk.

[@devrossik]

When making emergency ship maneuvers, such as when dodging torpedoes, you will have noticed that using the navigation feature produces rather leisurely turns. If you really want a ship to turn sharply, you should break out of any formation or auto-navigation and use the rudder controls. It can produce some chaos, because the ships tend to get out of your control, but you can get the best performance that way.

[@devrossik]

I've mentioned this before, but I want to say again how skilled you have become at producing outstanding cinematic video from this game! It really stands out among other creators.

[@georgecoventry8441]

Nothing beats the thrill of slipping a spread of 6 torpedoes through the outer escort screen and sinking an enemy carrier!

[@woofdogmeow2159]

VERY HONORABLE the emperor regrets that ZUIHO has no surviving sister. SHOHO sank at coral sea. The sinking of Saratoga means there are no Lexington class carriers left.

[@ChrisS-fh7zt]

The quote is. Fires from stem to stern, which is basically fires covering the entire top deck of a ship.

[@squirreljenkins1542]

Heh, for once the claims weren't exaggerated. Nicely done.

[@bigmac60]

Another good episode. Thank you

[@myceliamdragon6887]

Love the pun Taff :)

[@TonySpike]

Taff - "why cant they go in a straight line?" Eratosthenes of Cyrene - "another flat earther eh? .....allow me to demonstrate how you are wrong"

[@Lord.Kiltridge]

One of my favourite things to do when a carrier task force in intercepted by a sub is to launch all possible bombers with depth charges if American and 800kg HE if not, and do an airstrike as soon as the sub(s) is/are located. It's quite a show.

[@joestiller4270]

Gonna to try this next time I get it to happen to me.

[@LawrenceSeetoh]

an excellent episode Taff, thank you. nice job with the Subs

[@marcush2220]

cant whait for next time, well done Captain Taff.

[@chisox551]

Congratulations I-19 on your prize, sinking an American Aircraft Carrier!

[@foreverpinkf.7603]

You seem to be a better Japanese than American. Well done so far.

[@johnsullivan6843]

All I know is I'm on Taff's side of every conflict! 😂

[@_OpFor]

awesome stuff Taff!

[@thomaszhang3101]

Will you eventually be able to afford big carriers like the Shokaku?

[@MuazzamKhan786]

Yes he should

[@esbenk.d.jensen9345]

Bold attacks!!

[@prussiathespacemarines1825]

Apparently in this alternate universe the Japanese grand admiral was Karl donitz

[@Icantfindanamewtf]

do you suggest buying this game ? im a sh3 fun and looking for more games like that

[@danhaas9730]

I've enjoyed the game so far, and theres a few really cool mods that make it even batter. So I'd recommend it, personally.

[@warmstrong5612]

@@danhaas9730 I agree it's worth spending some hard earned dough on.

[@joestiller4270]

Most definitely buy it as others have said and few youtubes show the add on mods are great with the play along.

[@charlescasanova770]

i started a new campaingne i was wondering why i wasn't getting my planes back so it wasn't just my pc then. thats a stupid rule because both my cv's have damage and would take to long to get them back in the fight.i used them for air cover while bombing all there ports except there big one yet they have no planes to launch except for one place now. now i need them for the bb's and the cv i haven't found yet

[@barry3974]

Hey Taff! Just ask out of reference, what difficulty is set in combat and campaign in this playthrough? Thanks.

[@kilometer750]

When I get attacked by a sub I tend to change my course or speed only after I see the torpedoes on the map. Just to add some realism to the game and not make things too easy.

[@ditzy_neko3362]

I just got my IJN carrier. If I have to release it and buy it back every time I lose planes that's going to be a terrible thorn in my side. Bummer.

[@bimmerbomber2002]

It's a decision point that the player has to weigh. As the fighting continues, you lose more and more aircraft, your hangar spaces are finite. As you start losing planes, you need to decide how long do you stay at sea? When do you come in to replenish aircraft? At what point does your carrier become combat-ineffective? Is there a lull in the fighting that you can take to sneak your CV TF back to base to replenish? You don't need to bring your CV back to port to get new planes the moment it takes losses, you can absorb attrition more than that. But it's a consideration that many people had to face in these kinds of wars, and it's an important consideration here too.

[@ditzy_neko3362]

@@bimmerbomber2002 I just watched a documentary on Enterprise and now I really appreciate your point. Everyone loves to have the carriers around but it's real game is how when and where to use her.

[@bimmerbomber2002]

@@ditzy_neko3362 It absolutely is, yes :) Carriers can very much be an "I win" button, they make life a lot easier. But most people stop there in terms of strategy. The best carrier players will absolutely know how, where, and when to use these powerful tools. Big ships win fights, 5-head admirals win wars lol

[@georgecoventry8441]

Buying it back is no problem, because the game returns what you spent on them as soon as they are repaired, so you're basically buying them again with the same money you spent the first time....which means you only really pay for them once. You can, however, use that credit instead to buy different ships...which might be preferable.

[@robpissedoffexmarine8904]

Just one thing the Carrier was Saratoga I know that cause Lexington was sunk at coral sea.

[@geoffreyrichardson8738]

Remember they are American torpedos, not that dangerous

[@Spacecow57]

Does the ai still get an unlimited amount of ships or does sinking stuff actualy weaken it?

[@firestorm165]

Well in the Japanese campaign I finished last night after I sunk 2 battleships and 2 carriers (south Dakotas, the Lexington and the Wasp) I never saw BB's or CV's again

[@bluestorm3628]

Recall the story of I-19

[@janekzaganek5314]

Where silent hunter ?

[@colindouglas7769]

I don't know! Where did you last see it? Maybe it's still where you left it!

[@arthurcrego8297]

A carrier Wow.

[@gregs3555]

They need a patch to reduce the torpedo solution of sub attacks and easier for DD’s to hunt them. It’s unrealistic rn.

[@hawks1ish]

Hi Taff, you cant draw straight lines on the map because of the curvature of the earth its drawing a straight line on a sphere.

[@devrossik]

As others have stated, the current version of the game does require carriers to be released to get new aircraft. I dislike this rule, because it is not historically accurate (carriers were often replenished by having planes fly in). The usual reason for ships to return to port had to do with low supplies and damage repair, not low aircraft. I think this was just a crude way to increase the difficulty of the campaign. You can change this rule by adjusting the settings when you first start a campaign, which I always do. For an already started campaign, you can edit the campaign save file to set the value of "carrierWingsRequireRelease" to "false".

[@jordangames2560]

It is accurate though. Replenishing aircraft isn’t the challenge but training them is. Zuikaku during coral sea lost most of her air group and could not partake in the battle of Midway.

[@devrossik]

@@jordangames2560 It is possible that things were different for the Japanese, I don't know. But, on the US side, naval aviators trained independently (and constantly), and were assigned to carriers by need. Air groups were often moved between carriers while they were at sea.

[@jordangames2560]

@@devrossik he is playing the IJN campaign so it would make sense

[@devrossik]

@@jordangames2560 All true, but as a game, the rules should be the same for both sides. Anyway, regardless of historical accuracy or not, I don't like it, and the game permits this rule to be changed.

[@peribe438]

More please…

[@longtimber]

Unless you've got it set for easy the AI is idiotic. You dodge torps right and left and the AI sails right into them. Not to mention AI subs can't escape like yours.

[@georgecoventry8441]

AI subs can escape...and often do.........but you are right about how the AI ships do not see the sub's torpedoes coming and sail right into them.