Tail Strike? Wheels On The Ground Go Around - N301DU - DL2289 - DCA-MSP - A220-300 - RWY 22 KMSP

[@miketheavgeek]

Holy shit! That was so close! Insane decision! Incredible maneuvering by lifting the aircraft again at that point! Great capture, and very well filming! Thanks for sharing man!

[@tomdavis3038]

I’m sure his employer doesn’t think his tail strike was “incredible” Cheers

[@vinhsanity]

I was on a flight a couple weeks back landing in MSP and the pilot said the winds were swirling so the landing will be bumpy. We never touched on the first approach and the pilot came on saying winds were creating a stronger ground effect than usual where the plane wants to float as it gets closer to the runway. The 2nd landing attempt was rather smooth. I do fly a lot so it wasn’t my first time I’ve been on a plane that aborted landing, but many had a look of worry on their face.

[@billschlafer]

Hard to say for certain because of camera angle. But it looks like the aircraft was about to depart the left side of the runway, which may be why the pilot chose to get airborne again. Notice the slight right bank just after liftoff. Hard to be critical of the go around decision until it's you at the controls in those conditions.

[@BigfootBrass]

I would say you are correct. The GA seems odd, as they had more than enough pavement. (22 is 11,000 FT long) The possible runway excursion off the left side would have been devastating. When there is any doubt, hit TOGA and fly it. You know the plane flies, you don't know if it will stop, or in this case stay on the runway.

[@adub1300]

Naw looks like a go around was necessary here. Approach was not stable at all.

[@Zeevuhl]

@@adub1300 naw!

[@Jayknowsthewaze]

Left main gear was starting to get close to that edge. Go around was just about needed, or they would’ve went off there.

[@sylv_ain]

A220 skipper here : the flare was initiated a bit too high, the pilots corrected nose down a bit too much and firmly contacted with the runway. Plane was unstable and they decided to do a go around. The plane was in a low energy state and the pilot rotated too soon. The speed being too low and the pitch too high, the tail came close to touching. During the go around The plane veered to the left and the left wheel came very close to the runway edge. Was a hard approach for sure and a good decision to go around. The low energy go around is a very tricky manoeuvre and is often the cause of many repeats in the Sim during pilot qualification training

[@williamfeldner9356]

Winds have been very unpredictable and high speed here in Minneapolis this spring.

[@mplsgordon2]

Scott, I really appreciate the captioning you did, and the slow motion replay. The comments by other pilots who were flying into MSP that day helped a lot, too. The winds down the slot where the Minnesota merges with the Mississippi can be really interesting. if they were down to one runway, things must have been very challenging. Runway 22's approach is over wealthy neighborhoods and they don't use it much.

[@KMSPVideos]

It was an interesting afternoon. I still have more video to go through from that day but found this clip to be the highlight.

[@subsoar5734]

this is why we have ADM and practice go arounds. Cpt knew that first attempt was impossible, I would assume due to either some wind shear or ground effect he was not aware of. He got his airplane off the runway, as he should’ve, and then shot a perfect approach and an excellent landing because he was prepared to work with his airplane a little. Great job sir!

[@StraightNoChaser86]

Hello Everyone! A lot of terrible takes on this video, here's my terrible take... MSP was using Runway 22 that day. Why? It was 30 gusting to 50 Kts+ making normal landing runways ineligible due to crosswind limits. What you saw near the end was a the effects of a gust ending during a pretty terrible time. Airliners will usually apply a gust factor (Up to 20 kts!) depending on a formula applied before landing, but a significant loss of headwind at this phase is nearly impossible to account for. Why did they elect to go around after touchdown? Well by the time they lifted off the ground the left main was nearly off the runway, it was probably the safer option. Why did it take so long for them to lift off after initiating a go around? As you can see, the ground spoilers deployed when the weight on wheel sensors indicated the plane was on the ground. Initiating a go around retracts those, the plane is unlikely to be flyable until they retract fully. You can see them retract, then the plane lifts off. Additionally, a jet engine takes a second to get Full Thrust from an idle thrust scenario. Normally Jet engines will have a slightly elevated thrust setting to maintain approach speed, so when you apply TOGA thrust, it comes pretty quick. Having reduced the throttle to idle for the flare, the engines likely took some time to provide full thrust. As for the overall technique....probably at the limits of the pilots abilities and a little task saturation to boot. The plane did not react how the pilot expected because this scenario is much different than that of a normal go around or take off. Overall a safe outcome during a very difficult approach. The full video shows a normal landing on the second attempt.

[@gtr1952]

Very well said!! IMHO he/she/they did a good job under the circumstances. --gary

[@user-hh3mj6it6q]

Low spd. Pitch up. What a holly shit Go-around technic

[@jenniferAdamek]

Well described, but it looked like the landing gear wasn't fully down??? And well I have to say those pilots did a remarkable go around from the first landing..

[@theguy6044]

@@jenniferAdamek Where the heck are you getting that from? From this short clip the aircraft was stable. Seemed to be an nose down overcorrection which is against training for any landing. The first flare just seemed like he dumped the nose down, can't exactly see why but it looks too aggressive to be a gust. Not sure what Delta's go around training specifies but he touched down well before the touch-down zone so if he decided to focus on the centerline and stabilizing the nose, to me that would have been a safer option considering he almost had a runway excursion from deviating from the center line with such a nose high pitch and with spoilers deployed.

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

Still absolutely floors me how quiet the A220 - and its geared P&W turbofan engines - are compared to other aircraft.

[@cmconley33]

Damn, there must have been some wind on that attempt. Or a really strong ground effect. The pilot was constantly correcting for the motion of the airplane. Either way, an excellent example of why pilots have to practice touch-and-go landings. And notice that the second attempt was absolutely perfect-the first attempt was almost certainly aborted due to wind.

[@calansmith9561]

i operated a flight the morning of the 24th before they went down to one runway, they were landing 12's with almost a 30 knot direct crosswind

[@DaranMakesGoodVideos]

The decision to go around in this instance I feel was necessary, given the pure fact that the aircraft was so far left of centerline, this could’ve easily been an LOC incident. The grass was quickly approaching on the left main…peak pucker factor for the crew

[@ADAMBUFFOLINO12]

For those wondering why the flight crew didn’t just go ahead and land… Jet engines do not immediately respond to thrust lever movements in the same way a propeller aircraft does. When thrust levers are moved forward from an idle position, there is a period of time that the engine “spools up”. There is perhaps a three to five second lag time for engine response. During this landing, the crew likely made the determination that the landing sequence was unsafe at about five feet off the ground (just around the time they went to idle thrust). They pushed the thrust levers forward to initiate the go-around, however because of the spool up time, they need to hold the deck angle at around ten degrees to avoid a tail strike because the engines are not yet producing adequate thrust for climb. This crew likely pitched up beyond the deck limit before they verified ground clearance. Crews are taught to make a decision to go around, add thrust, pitch to eight to ten degrees nose up, accept ground contact, and continue go around. Ground contact occurs because of spool up time required for engine response. The safest course of action is continue decisively with go around.

[@Tigers9596]

It's also because the aircraft was veering hard to the left side of the runway. Watch how close it gets to the edge.

[@mwash5779]

I call BS, when you land and get weight on wheels, the spoilers come up on most planes, and they came up on this one if you look closely..that was almost 7 seconds on the ground the lag time is not that long. That was a late go around, or a take off at that point…Why ride a with your nose in the air for that long. Also 10 degrees nose up may work in the air but, on the ground that tail will come close to the ground (A321, 737-900) you are getting a tail strike…

[@Tigers9596]

@@mwash5779 He was close to the edge of the runway. That influenced the go around

[@mwash5779]

@@Tigers9596 I totally get it and I agree, that saved their butt. I’m just saying they were lucky that could have been real bad. Get your nose wheel on the ground so you have directional control and you can keep center line…

[@commoncobbler1458]

Since the spoilers automatically retract once the throttles are advanced we can tell when they push the throttles forward by watching the spoilers. In this case the spoilers don't retract until less than a second before they lift off. This means that they didn't push the throttles forward until just before they left the ground. That's a LONG time to be decelerating on the ground before going around, even though they were about to depart the side of the runway. They must have been on the very edge of the envelope when they left the ground without the engines being spooled up all the way yet.

[@JonathanWinton123]

What an amazing aircraft and moment you captured there. Very scary on that first approach, I still cannot work out why the pilot flying was still pulling back the nose (assumably they thought they had touched down). ~ Excellent catch. Liked.

[@816928]

Look again. The reason they were pulling back is because they had committed to the Go-Around because they almost went off the side of the runway. Absolutely terrible airmanship displayed here. Just before touchdown the elevator went from dam near full nose down to full nose up.

[@Tigers9596]

@@816928 It was not "full nose down, full nose up." No need for sensationalizing. The first approach was definitely squirrely as you should never nose down like that just above the runway, like you said.

[@816928]

@@Tigers9596 key word being should in your statement.

[@luftmensch435]

I say it wasn’t the pilot pulling back. It’s too common for pilot not to push down the control to counteract the pitch up motion from the engine spooling up.

[@816928]

@@luftmensch435 That is a good point. I have no license in this particular aircraft but from what I hear the pitch up moment when the spoilers are deployed is nil. Also, if you look at the video replay in slow motion you will see when the aircraft pitches up and hits the tail/almost hits the tail, the spoilers are still deployed indicating that the engines had not yet spooled up. As soon as they got the engines spooled up the spoilers would have retracted.

[@vincenzopandolfi7684]

L'aereo aveva già toccato e si era già stabilizzato al primo tentativo, ormai bastava tenerlo in assetto leggermente positivo e rallentarlo e non riprendere il volo. Il pilota ha sbagliato anche quando ha buttato giù il muso in modo brusco. Ultima cosa: è inutile tirare così tanto la cloche con il rischio di far toccare la coda, perchè se non c'è spinta e velocità sufficienti, l'aereo non decolla! Dopo il durissimo tocco, bastava bloccarlo in assetto come ho scritto prima.

[@kenyonjefferson7547]

The looks like wind shear that caused that. The plane was stable until 30 ft above and suddenly dropped. That would also explain insufficient lift while the plane was rotating.

[@terriholliday8038]

Wow! That is some awesome flying skill!

[@JR-hp3qw]

The spoilers deployed… look closely above the number 2 engine when they land. The spoilers deploy, and then they attempt a go around, but the spoilers don’t retract until they literally get wheels up. I wonder if something wonky happened with them…

[@816928]

I am not typed on this particular aircraft but every jet I have flown has an auto retract function on the spoiler system for just this instance. As soon as you push the TOGA (Take off Go Around) button the throttles advance and the spoilers will automatically retract. It looks like to me they tried to go around without advancing the throttles initially and that is why they were slow to liftoff. Just before the (almost tail strike) you can see the spoilers still deployed.

[@lucaas]

Great video, would you be okay with me featuring this in a future Weekly Dose of Aviation episode? Of course with credit both in the video and in the description.

[@elchatodeoro1]

no

[@KMSPVideos]

Not interested. Thanks though.

[@D4NTMAV]

I know you won’t see this but just no pressure but was there a reason why you didn’t accept?

[@lachd2261]

Very good decision to go around.

[@ynoT_63]

Looked like he was inches from going off the left side of the runway. I'd say the go around was a good call...but then I wasn't at the controls.

[@yohonomoe5095]

Whoa good catch

[@malcolm5514]

Ya, I hadn't seen that at all, good eye. Didn't seem to be much rudder action either 😬

[@mrdav1e]

holy moley nice catch

[@DannoFZ1]

00:46 That's just inches from making aweful scrapey noises.

[@mikhailjairnisbett441]

and 00:48 a foot or two from going off the runway

[@mt110h]

The wind has been crazy in MSP the past few weeks

[@tj1923]

the pilots deserve a lot of credit

[@chromebomb]

HOLY MOLY that was close

[@jamesg5615]

By the time the wheels left the ground again, the left main was almost on the edge of the runway 😳 conditions didn’t look the best either

[@alleycatvietnam]

Wow This gives new meaning to " Being in the Right place @ the Right Time " Great catch....

[@KMSPVideos]

Thanks!

[@nomad_grj]

YIKES! that was CLOSE

[@BleedAirAviation]

YIKES. just subscribed, looking forward to more kmsp action from this channel.

[@adub1300]

That might be one of the single worst flares I’ve ever seen followed by an outstanding recovery and go around.

[@subsoar5734]

Judging by the way weather has been at MSP, I’d bet a good chunk of cash that he caught some wind shear he may not have been prepared for. Airplane goes all the way to the absolute left edge of the runway and tanks like 30 feet before he executes his TO/GA. The flare sucked regardless, but I think some gains and losses may have been a contributing factor.

[@ArthiJayaprakasham]

b😮

[@expoboy52]

"Am I gonna make my connection?"

[@masynrustin4839]

I was flying in from Winnipeg around the same time these crazy winds were happening and had to go around as well.....it was a very bumpy landing

[@TbhIThink]

As someone who doesn’t mind turbulence who has enjoyed it since a child. I think this and having a go around would be sooooo a scary

[@kennedyxhulu4933]

With what I just saw am beginning to wonder if a stretched version should be produced 🤨

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

I once caught a 767 doing something similar, but this is much, much more serious. I expect this will likely be investigated.

[@kabaddiify]

No paperwork and no investigation.

[@Stepclimb]

@@kabaddiify Not necessarily. This event will more than likely generate a good deal of (electronic) “paperwork”. Aircraft of Major airlines have event data recorders that regularly send data back to HQ for analysis to teams with acronyms like FOQA or FDAP. Flight Operations Quality Assurance or Flight Data Analysis Program teams establish acceptable parameters such as pitch attitude at touchdown and pitch attitude at liftoff among many many others. If an aircraft triggers an “event” such as this, where the pitch attitude at liftoff has exceeded a pre-established limit, the FOQA team will get the data that the aircraft recorded, de-identity the crew so punitive actions from the company don’t take place, and the pilot side of the team will reach out to the crew to understand their perspective of how the event transpired. The data from the aircraft is quite detailed and contains the aircraft’s indicated airspeed, rate of descent, configuration, threshold crossing height, engine fan rpm, commanded throttle position and even the amount of force applied to the flight controls etc... The goal of of FOQA is to get everyone standardized in procedures to minimize risk of mishaps (such as tailstrikes) from occurring. If this event was not due to the crew not following standard procedures, the airline can change their procedures to prevent or lessen the risk of a tailstrike occurring again.

[@kabaddiify]

@@Stepclimb Wao thank you for explaining! Much appreciated 😀

[@cmconley33]

I really doubt it. Nothing happened-there was no tail strike and the pilot recovered beautifully. I’m certain the wind just created problems and forced the pilot to abort.

[@thud9797]

@@kabaddiify Not until management sees this video anyway.

[@daciatravel.647]

Very good video! 👍✈️✈️

[@crisromerogutierrez8746]

I read the tittle of this video and automatically thought of, “The wheels on the bus go round and round” 😂

[@KMSPVideos]

Nice. The title could use some reworking I think but i tried to describe it accurately :)

[@benbury4351]

Nice shot! Where do you film from? I've tried the Airport Dog Park (near 12R) and the Aircraft Viewing Area, are there any better locations?

[@816928]

Definitely a bad day at the office.

[@ernieszelepcsenyi5710]

Initiated the go around and pulled the nose up with the spoilers fully deployed. It hops right into the air as soon as they retracted them.

[@OneAlphaMike]

On most Airbuses the speedbrakes auto retract when thrust levers above MCT. Wonder if the 220 is different in that regard.

[@AviationFin]

Good job mate 👍

[@KMSPVideos]

Thanks 👍

[@BruiserFL]

First day of I.O.E.

[@palmesv]

Hi there, amazing clip! May I feature this in one of my videos, of course you will be credited in the video and description.

[@Tankerc]

Were the flaps fully deployed?? Watched this 10 times... The flaps are NOT deployed! He is coming in HOT! And if he didn't deploy them the second go around probably means they have an onboard issue.. Wathched it again... flaps are NOT deployed for landing... Great landing at 150 knots!

[@burtonrider316]

cant wait to read that asap report

[@emanuelecrescini8457]

Gosh, what a close call. Seems like that the ground spoilers had a lot of delay. Maybe an airplane logic problem?

[@seemakhatoon7850]

Nice

[@DarkVoidIII]

If at first you fail, try, try again! The pilots nailed it on the second attempt! 😊👍

[@cesarescobar6050]

Yea but the costs to fix that tail strike😭

[@davef.2811]

She was heading left, off towards the weeds so they got the hell out of there. Better than trying to plow the field with the plane any day.

[@ClearSkyProductions777]

That was a close one. Good catch. Wonder what happened

[@classifiedlonerider590]

Nice save...

[@rikjanssens8971]

Double input of the side stick may cause tailstrike

[@ocsrc]

He had it. All he had to do was cut power and the nose would have dropped

[@Pilotfarmand]

Go around without adding thrust ? - And Just pitching up, becauase of the startle effect from the hard landing ?

[@riri-tu5oi]

Looked like me coming into klas on xplane the other day😂😂😂

[@thebigcnel]

Keep that flare relatively consistent boys. He wayyyy overflared on the first one, gusty winds shouldn't cause that.

[@vitzhi]

I would say quite a controversial decision to go-around, IMHO. Judging by the video, they dropped the nose when the flare started for some reason (gusts, WS etc... whatever), but the landing itself was OK, they DIDN'T EVEN BOUNCE. No doubt it was a positive touchdown (or even a hard landing), but still ACCEPTABLE. IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, rudder is applied to the left after touchdown, that's why they veered off to the edge of the RWY while trying to recover (why?). Runway is dry, they could have maintained the runway centerline, that's for sure. I'm not accusing anyone, just sharing my thoughts. Good job anyway.

[@naturallyherb]

What made the plane pitch down so suddenly immediately before the first touchdown?

[@louly3212]

Dumb pilot, even with increased clearance and knowledge of the tail strike attitude he did or almost did, he did correct appropriately (not dumb) and then went on to exaggerate some more, he's lucky those planes are as powerful as the pilots are dumb. Tbh when pilots are taking off they tend to exaggerate how fast they pull up too, extra strain on the plane and they're already with the stupid flaps. Honestly, especially these new bois have all the runway and abundant power to take off without flaps in any load situation and i bet without the retracted tail design, maybe then they'll take off twice as natural, by being efficient too without those flaps pulling you back.. maybe someone will prove me right, i don't have flight simulator.

[@ghcowan]

That was our flight!!! That was the hardest landing I've ever experienced in my life. It felt like we slammed down, and I told my wife I thought the co-pilot was getting practice landing!

[@B314hunter]

Captains have bad landings too. Sometimes I wanna just keep the flightdeck door closed for deplaning doing “paperwork”. 😜

[@ghcowan]

@@B314hunter I was just being snarky. In all seriousness, I have the utmost respect for the job the whole aircrew has to perform every day!

[@ghcowan]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJyWgZKnhthsj9E The Go-Around landing was damn near perfect for me!

[@KuostA]

how was everyone on boards reaction to that? were u guys scared? could u feel/see the pitch down right before landing? could u feel/see the high AOA increasing to almost tail strike? could u see that u were nearing the edge of the runway at high AOA before TOGA was applied? what did the pilots say on PA after? please and thanks!

[@jilledwards8376]

Captains and First Officers alternate doing the takeoffs and landings, so copilots literally do half of them.

[@atticusgq]

The crew has impeccable skills

[@Mattribute]

I don't fly the 220 so I'm curious to know if ground lift dump is predicated on thrust levers being at idle. If so then the appearance of spoilers at touchdown would imply the TL's went up after touchdown and then there was some time for the engines to spool up and produce thrust again.

[@RLTtizME]

To summarize…..a bone job. Some really bad flying. It was the flight attendant shooting that landing? Never mind.

[@gerardmoran9560]

You can go around (actually it's a "balked landing" once the flare has started) even if you touch down and the spoilers deploy. They retract when you advance the thrust levers. Once thrust reversers are deployed you're committed to land.

[@trm64]

Auto throttles on the 220 go to idle at 30 feet. In gusty conditions the pilots often switch to manual throttles to better respond to wind shear.

[@itsNexino]

wtf that’s a a220 i’ve never been told about this plane in my life

[@burritoboi6620]

Why at about 10-15 feet ish did the plane suddenly plant into the ground?

[@lbowsk]

Why in the hell did they GA with the mains on the runway? Never mind, his left main was on the runway SIDE STRIPE when he lifted off. Not sure why, but a lot of pilots just don't use the rudder. SMH.

[@jilledwards8376]

(or she)

[@wano]

sangat keren... salam indonesia.🙏🇮🇩

[@ampicoab]

It would be interesting to hear remarks from the pilots. From What I see, it was a horrible landing due to unstable conditions just prior to touchdown. But once on the ground, what is the point of a go around? It was really a touch and go. If on the ground and pointed down the runway and in control,, why go through the whole approach again as that is where the real hazards were?

[@yohonomoe5095]

I would think the pilot made a decision to go around as soon as the nose dropped but then the plane landed hard and they were already committed to the go around maneuver.

[@Tigers9596]

Look closely again. The plane was far on the left side of the runway. If a go around wasn't executing, they would've went off the side of the runway.

[@Tigers9596]

@@yohonomoe5095 The go around was because the plane was almost off the side of the runway after touchdown. Look again.

[@yohonomoe5095]

@@Tigers9596 well imo and I’m not a pilot, but I kinda know that when you land you can keep direction of the plane with rudders. They landed on the center of runway but it looks like the pilot wasn’t on the rudders for some reason which leads me to suspect they thought they were climbing in the air (the high pitch attitude) since they initiated the go around after the nose drop and hard landing.

[@yohonomoe5095]

@@Tigers9596 basically what I believe is they were already initiating a “going around” maneuver PRIOR to the potential runway excursion but the pilot got lazy with the rudder/direction control

[@jakeriess6492]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah prob still file an ASAP report

[@user-yj2tu6ir1h]

Praise be to God, our Creator and Provider, God is kind to them, and the plane did not crash, there was no distance between the runway and the back of the plane

[@paulvonauth7254]

lol, looks like I am flying the plane...

[@povertyspec9651]

Quite a few thongs aboard had to be changed after that.

[@l.ls.8890]

That’s one of those poop your pants moments. 😜

[@philipbrailey]

Wind shear!

[@mikemangieri7626]

Why did this plane take off again

[@Dk-dg8du]

First time when it happened to me I was scar 😂

[@a86681838]

Looks like, it flared too early and high, and Another pilot forced the nose down, and when called to go around, it pitched too much at the moment.

[@AndyAviation]

The flare looked alright, but they probably encountered windshear, which caused the plane to sink down (look at the pilot pulling up on the elevator when the plane drops)

[@DrSeuss-nv9hw]

Fly-By-Wire.

[@jurandirpaixao7828]

Nesse momento nao passava uma agulha nos passageiros

[@Trust291]

The Delta pilots are very highly train to land planes.

[@LacoteCohen]

Where are all the keyboard pilots?

[@rangjingmkmixtv3548]

👍🙏

[@SHAREMediaBK]

You sure it didn’t strike!?

[@youdontknowme6004]

Wonder if it at least hit a tail skid if the A220s have one..I’m guessing they would.

[@barbaracameron5610]

Near tail strike. The 321 bus has long body shorter wing span and big fear during landing is a tail strike. Doesn't happen that ofteñ.thx

[@Mark-pp7jy]

I believe that's the A220. The A321 has four cabin doors.

[@dhis2training712]

Notícias do Malawi

[@haitvhalong]

😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘

[@user-kd4rh9mf9b]

سنگینی عقب هواپیما باعث شد جلوی هواپیما بالا بماند با انتقال بار به وسط و جلوی هواپیما مسئله حل شد

[@KMSPVideos]

True!

[@fleetwin1]

YIPES

[@jasonmarks1636]

that cost some money, i'm sure the bean counters will be asking questions.

[@josesdadodado4238]

Um erro fatal do piloto bateu com força no chão poderia ter partido o avião uma brusca desesperiencia dos piloto três erros quase partiu a calda bateu com força no solo pode partir o avião e ainda arremeteu quase que de lado podendo também bater a asa no solo Infelizmente um despreparo dos pilotos

[@TommyH1975]

yikes!

[@SMCITW]

All the keyboard pilots in the comment section is hilarious, seriously, has anyone heard of a wind shear?

[@dlewis404]

Should have gone around not stable for landing

[@aaronkahn6985]

Carpet dance x2

[@B314hunter]

I certainly didn’t see the need for a go-around. Not a great flare with the nose drop the last few feet but it didn’t bounce - it was W.O.W. at the 1000ft marker.

[@williamcain3074]

Probably assumed it was a bounced landing.

[@DVA5656]

You kidding? He was about to go off the runway. Aircraft was unstable, and definitely wasn’t a controlled landing. The go around was the right call to prevent departing the prepared surface at high speed.

[@williamcain3074]

@@DVA5656 ??? About to go off the runway? This is inaccurate. Not sure your credentials but I fly the Airbus and that was definitely not the case here.

[@DVA5656]

@@williamcain3074 I’m a pilot. re watch the video. His left main was inches from going off the left side. Was not stable or controlled, so at high speed the go around was definitely the right call there.

[@williamcain3074]

@@DVA5656 He almost went off after he initiated the GA, but upon landing he was on centerline. And that wasn't my point, my point was he probably assumed he had bounced the landing and was airborne again. If not I'm sure he would have just stayed on the ground bc the GLD had already deployed.

[@toniavasseur9574]

Would that be better if he would’ve just landed

[@816928]

Landed in the grass????? Watch the video again just before he went around. The left main gear is just about off the pavement.

[@12345fowler]

Very strange. I see no reason for sudden pitch down just before touchdown with resulting bang on the runway. Maybe it was a overly strong pitch input by the pilot, but the G/A is even more disturbing. Once the spoilers deploy it is usually time to continue with the landing. Technically you can G/A as long as the trust reversers are not engaged so this G/A is according to SOP but still a strange decision by the PF.

[@mdepfl]

That pushover is dramatic. Unfortunately the elevator is masked when it occurs but you can clearly see full nose-up deflection right before “impact”. I sure hope the pilot didn’t try to hurry the touchdown.

[@user-kd4rh9mf9b]

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[@TomCook1993]

Should’ve just kept it on the ground

[@816928]

Look again at the moment they lifted off. The main left gear is almost off the pavement.

[@mikhailjairnisbett441]

@@816928 should've just used rudder.

[@816928]

@@mikhailjairnisbett441 ya maybe?? We both weren't there so it is hard to arm chair this one.

[@DaveDave65]

The joke always used to be: "DELTA: Don't Expect Luggage To Arrive" (Been there, done that with them) Now perhaps it's more like: "DELTA: Don't Expect Landings To 'Appen" :) (I'd like a second opinion as to whether that tail actually struck the runway. Looked way too close for comfort)

[@RLTtizME]

Your poetic license has been revoked.

[@Sams911]

this is what happens where the pilot shortage gets so bad, they're literally hiring anyone who can fog a mirror .. sad.

[@floatplanebox]

But this is mainline Delta…..

[@Sams911]

@@floatplanebox they're still hiring 2000 hour mins and scrapping the bottom of the barrel.. throw in affirmative action gone nuts and you get shit like this... clearly pilot error.

[@michaelfalgares]

Captain was very qualified.

[@warriplayer]

Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zanten.. Could certainly fog a window as well. Yet his actions resulted in the worst accident in aviation history.

[@Sams911]

@@michaelfalgares was it his leg?

[@boukarimoussa3021]

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