I used the OG vanford 5k on southern bluefin and red snapper here in Australia 🇦🇺 absolutely no issues. I believe commentary about flex is driven by misinformation and intentional brand strategies. Not that ive actually experienced it in the 21 model, but a bit of flex in my opinion is a lot better than broken componentry, handles or drag systems... ahem ... I say no more. New 24 vanford feels great in hand, only have the 2.5k model so far but so far so good
@saltylawaia89583 ай бұрын
When I don’t want flex issues I use my Penn. finesse I use my Shimanos.. up and go kind of days I use my Daiwas.
@auggyboy2843 ай бұрын
I use the Vanford C5000 in the surf and inshore. It has landed plenty of Striped Bass, Red Drum, Flounder and Trout with no issues and no flex. Like Adam said, if you’re getting flex, you should look at the Stradic or even the Sustain.
@artificialslinger97303 ай бұрын
Yeah , as a gear head the Vanford didn't have flex issues to me. But it did feel cheap as hell vs the older ci4+ a and ci4+ b. Just got this new one Sunday and it feels more durable and rugged then the 2020 Vanford. But still have to get on the water with it but I don't think this will have that feeling like the old one did. ( Thank God )
@miketorre163 ай бұрын
@@artificialslinger9730 i got me a Stella FK.... SICK reel
@jessiepaulins3 ай бұрын
I kept seeing ads of stores selling the old Vanford for a discounted price, in my head I was like yeah they gotta be dropping a new reel. Boom I come along and see your vid!
@tailwateroutfitters3 ай бұрын
That’s great timing!
@holdenmagroin18363 ай бұрын
New 2024 Vanford just arrived from Japan! C3000XG. Smoother and quieter than the 2020 version. In fact, I wasn’t impressed with the 2020 at all. This reel has zero black coloring. It’s all dark gray (gunmetal color) now. Spool, rotor, and body all gray with very little red accents. Very slick and super excited to have one in the US
@webster71015 күн бұрын
I Love my 2500 HG on my Zeck Troy 240/50.You can feel Everthing....
@joeyjoe88922 ай бұрын
Most likely a perfect freshwater bass reel or larger freshwater species
@artificialslinger97303 ай бұрын
Just got my new vandord Sunday hoping to get out with it this weekend. Feels so much better then the Vanford 2020. The 2020 felt so damn cheap. The easiest thing to remember with shimano is Ci4+ reels like the vanford , twin power xd vanquish they are a finesse reel / open water reel. Not any type of heavy drag setting situations type of reel. Core solid reels like the stradic , sustain, twin power fe , stella are a great all around reels. You can do everything with those. Also to correct one thing duracross is a mix of carbonfiber and felt. They did this to get the smoothness of the felt but the durability of Carbonfiber. Its the best of both worlds. Just to anyone reading comments they have 500 , 2000 , 2500 , 3000 4000 and 5000 sizes. They got rid of the 1000. The 2000 is the same size as a 1000 but the spool holds more line.
@rendynyo2053 ай бұрын
are the c3000 size is the same size as other 2000 reels? i am planning to get the 2500, but i'am afraid it maybe to small for my rod
@Justin-zw1hx3 ай бұрын
damn,,,, I have 20 Vanford, it does not feel solid.
@artificialslinger97303 ай бұрын
@@rendynyo205 2500 ,c3000 are same size reel but the 3000 holds more line and has a t handle knob vs the 2500 which has the tear drop knob. Both hold plenty of line especially braid. I only stick up to 150 yards on my reels. You dont need any more then that
@watchman316ly3 ай бұрын
@artificialslinger9730 Yep, that's why I waited till now to get this one. My brother in law told me nit to buy those first edition.
@artificialslinger97303 ай бұрын
@@watchman316ly yeah I bought 2 2500s and 3000s sold them less then 6 months after. I do still have the 500 and both 2000s. Those ones feel okay and fantastic. But that's because they're so small and compact
@Pescaenaccion956Ай бұрын
Would you recommend this or a stella given that it has almost all stella features
@chemareasalbaticiei2 ай бұрын
For longevity for ultralight fishing do you recommend stradic fm 2000s or this new vanford in the same size? I am fishing 2-3 times a week... so i put alot of work on it, i usually go for perch fishing, so what do you think? Wich one?
@tailwateroutfitters2 ай бұрын
For that, I think you’ll really like the Vanford
@chemareasalbaticiei2 ай бұрын
@@tailwateroutfitters is not Stradic more durable in time? Even if it's a little bit heavier at 185gr, but aluminium body.
@tailwateroutfitters2 ай бұрын
@@chemareasalbaticiei yea it is with that metal body, but for perch with a 2500 or 2000 size, the extra durability shouldn’t be a big deal
@hejgoranfesdu27 күн бұрын
can the vanford match my m,egabass windbuster p5 destroyer rod? or is the new stradic a better choice thinking of balance in the rod.. the rod was very good balanced withy my last reel a twinbpower fd 2500 ... fishing 90% perch (sweden) most of the times with neds/jigs but even some bladebaits and 7-9 cm twitch baits... do the new vanford flex in the reel foot? does it have less play in the handle in to body? than the old one.. totally hater the old vanford for all play in the handle and bearings run out fast
@tailwateroutfitters26 күн бұрын
I’m not familiar with that rod, but the Stradic would be more similar in weight to your twin power. For perch fishing, you should have no flex issues. This one is also much tighter than the previous one too
@hejgoranfesdu26 күн бұрын
@tailwateroutfitters i tried fm stradic yesterday.. CRAP.. wobble and didnt reel smooth..and handlearm play like hell
@watchman316ly3 ай бұрын
Does it have the slow oscillating line spooling like that of the new Twin Power?
@tailwateroutfitters3 ай бұрын
It does not
@watchman316ly3 ай бұрын
@@tailwateroutfitters Awe shucks! I have a 2500 size ordered and coming.
@TTangOutdoors3 ай бұрын
On point👍
@Austin-bi4fr3 ай бұрын
How’s the sealing on it
@ShinkiZer03 ай бұрын
Like mid range shimano reels. Somewhat prevents water from gettin in shaft to the gears and drag. Roller bearing isnt and will mostly fail first if not regulary maintained..Can take some splash but if you dunked, it needs to be fully maintaned.
@krispyk.17863 ай бұрын
@@ShinkiZer0soooo basically it’ll be perfectly fine for any clean freshwater use
@ShinkiZer03 ай бұрын
@@krispyk.1786 definitely! I use mine in salt water and never had issues but i take care of my stuff.
@phillymanpete3 ай бұрын
Killer cosmetics for sure. Is it worth upgrading from the 2020 model that I purchased three months ago and absolutely love?
@JohnDoe-uv3rr3 ай бұрын
Very much so, you got a 4 year old reel there bud. Might as well be using a Zebco at this point.
@MaLeVoLeNt73192 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-uv3rr 🤣
@FranciscoRuiz-wy1elАй бұрын
@@JohnDoe-uv3rrunderrated comment 😂🙏
@holdenmagroin18363 ай бұрын
I have a 3000XG on the way 👍🏻
@matthewpham56503 ай бұрын
Might be a dumb question but by “vanford a” he means fa?
@EzraSwannellFishing3 ай бұрын
yes
@legendaryc9173 ай бұрын
2024 it looks very similar with the 2020 model.
@ivanperez85143 ай бұрын
would go great on the gx2 ugly stick 😎
@jeffnaval48943 ай бұрын
U have a good reel but a shitty rod. not a good compatible. get at least a hundred dollar rod. $150 minimum or you can get st croix rod and thats the best combination.
@2373113 ай бұрын
@@jeffnaval4894 How about pairing with Okuma Rockaway Light Weight Carbon Saltwater Surf Rods 10'?
@jeffnaval48943 ай бұрын
@@237311 yes i highly recommend okuma rod. Thats the first thing that comes to my mind when pickimg a $140-150 rod.
@billydee18792 ай бұрын
@jeffnaval4894 Ugly Stik is not a shitty rod in any way. It will outlast rods that cost twice as much. I have the Elite, and I'm surgical with it. It's all preference.
@jeffnaval48942 ай бұрын
@@billydee1879 I agree it's tough but it's not good for finese technique or when your fishing skill goes up. I would say it's like a go to rod if you are starting out.
@TK-cl1jm3 ай бұрын
Isn't this the FA?
@familybudgetfisherman3 ай бұрын
I have owned this reel for about two weeks and I really like the improvements. That said I don’t believe I would have noticed the difference, from a performance perspective, if I did not already own the previous model Vanford and also a Stella. Congrats on a very thorough and technical video. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣
@jessicaho192 ай бұрын
Do you think the 2024 FA is smoother than the 2020 Vanford? Or would you say it’s about the same
@familybudgetfisherman2 ай бұрын
@@jessicaho19 the 2024 model van Ford is noticeably smoother than the 2020 model. Even the way the line is cast and retrieved back onto the spool it’s such an improvement that it has increased my casting distance by nearly 30 feet. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣
@Pescaenaccion956Ай бұрын
Is it better than a stella? Im having trouble deciding between new vanford a or stella
@12345BАй бұрын
Is it just me or does it irritate anyone else that shimano names them a different two letter name to sell the rest of their old stock without discount, just call it the 2024 and 2020 model
@tailwateroutfitters26 күн бұрын
Yea it’s kind of annoying to me too
@alexj28692 ай бұрын
drag sound not good
@Trending101012 ай бұрын
Nice video ❤❤❤❤❤❤ bro 👌👌👌
@Dthoaitv63 ай бұрын
Get the stradic 😂 feel better
@jesusblessthesecommentsamen3 ай бұрын
I don’t like the look the first ci4 stradic looked the best I don’t like the look of my Stella as well.
@44925733 ай бұрын
That’s true. First Ci4 was beautiful
@jesusblessthesecommentsamen3 ай бұрын
@@4492573 I still use them although have the Stella’s and sustains have to say the vanford 500 has grown on me might add one to the collection 👍
@TopSecretAsiant3 ай бұрын
Personally needs more red
@FranciscoRuiz-wy1elАй бұрын
Agree
@ray85353 ай бұрын
Ugly Stik and cheap Penn Fierce or shimano reel at Walmart also has infinity warranty ♾️ 😂
@naticedog3 ай бұрын
Excuses for flexing... Shimano sacrifices things to save weight
@birdbig12 ай бұрын
Every company sacrifices things to save weight. It's the only way to shave weight