Mutazila 9 - Mamun and the Mihna

[@ShahidAli-by4iz]

Growing up in the West, I always had many questions about religion that I dared not ask. It created a void that you had somewhat filled, more or less. Thank you for the Mutazila series.

[@ghafeershah5804]

اپ عالمانہ اور ایماندارانہ تجزیہ کرتے ھیں اللہ پاک خوش رکھے آسانیاں عطا فرمائے آمین ثم آمین

[@user-my4kt3nm8x]

❤❤❤🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩 অসাধারণ বিশ্লেষণ অসাধারণ উপস্থাপন স্যার।আপনাকে অসংখ্য অসংখ্য ধন্যবাদ স্যার

[@sadmanahmed710]

আমিও দেখছি।👍

[@kaukabnaseer9496]

Great going. An important topic that has been misconstrued by the mainstream ulmas. And impressive effort to stay off the danger 😅

[@amjadfiaz4830]

Mashallaha jnb jarai rakhay

[@Zakkhan-tu7jz]

i followed all of the 9 parts of your videos but this one is the best of the lot. keep your good work up!

[@mdmostak5444]

Sir from India, I request to continue this without fear.and am waiting for next as i end one viewing. Thank a lot for this knowledge

[@farukchoudhury934]

What is the fear? Have the people of Pakistan gone nuts with their murderous and fanatic attitude to Islam? They do not want to hear the truth.

[@Shakeelzee1]

Excellent Dr Sab..❤

[@medusaachla]

Nice,you jumped in this historical cesspool, it is music to listen you than Qawali of engineer or other traditional so called scholar.

[@techtechgo8752]

Nice work sir, love from India

[@musheerahmed7427]

Super ❤

[@noshadar]

Good work Sir❤

[@AR-fr8br]

Well done, Prof. You are a source of learning for many people.

[@fahadali6099]

السلام علیکم۔۔ آپ مولانا عبیداللہ سندھی رح کی تاریخ اسلام بھی ضرور دیکھ لیں ۔سیاسی کشمکش اور سماجی تبدیلی کو عمدگی سے بیان کیا گیا ہے

[@SharafatAli-rz6ss]

😊😊p

[@SharafatAli-rz6ss]

I’m 😊😊😊😊😊

[@SharafatAli-rz6ss]

I’m just trying my luck 🍀 for

[@inayatullahkhan492]

Well said and explained❤

[@RashidAli800]

Very good lecture, fruit for thought... Thanks a lot for enlightening , stay blessed

[@ghafeershah5804]

قران پاک میں اطاعت کا لفظ صرف اللہ اور رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کے ساتھ ایا۔ ھے اولی الامر کے ساتھ نہی ھے یعنی وہ حاکم جو اللہ رسول کی اطاعت کرتا ھے اسکی اطاعت ھو گی ۔۔۔

[@nowie4007]

❤❤❤❤

[@A.SMotivation-ii1wk]

Love you 💕😘😘😘 sir

[@farhanpathan2976]

Sir also make a video on how Persians were able to make their language alive while other languages which came under Arab rule were replaced by Arabic, Persian survived and even became sort of part of Islam because when other Invaders conquered Muslim lands and adopted Islam they adopted Persian language. And this is also true in case of Pakistan, when Indians started to convert to Islam they connected their Language (i.e. Hindi) to Persian and took it away from Sanskrit and also Pakistan which is made in the name of Islam adopted Urdu which is closer to Persian and has a national antherm in Persian. Persian is considered as a connection to Islam as is Arabic.

[@libertiey]

Can you share Almuqadama podcast link?

[@RockingStarRocky-h8o]

What is link of these Arabic shaitaan to our civilization 😢

[@azarkamal4477]

Abna al-dawla means "sons of the regime/dynasty". Daula't also means State. Added this comment since I didn't see anyone else correcting the mistranslation.

[@Taimur_Laal]

@@azarkamal4477 you are correct literally. But academics such as Melchert write the “sons of the revolution” since the Abbasid state was made in a revolution.

[@_mustafa_05]

New lecture????

[@pascalwager4544]

While you're at it, can you also research and explain after that wilaiyat-al-faqeeh concept of the shia and its development as it is also an idea that combines politics and religion and was developed quite later on.

[@Taimur_Laal]

Simply that the authority of the Imams will be continued by the Shia ulema.

[@pascalwager4544]

@@Taimur_Laal yes, but for the most of the history, it was considered a blasphemous and heretical act to encroach on the authority of the imams esp. the authority to rule. The authority to disseminate knowledge was accepted but assuming anything beyond that was considered unlawful.

[@muhammadmaalik8566]

Excellent sir If it is possible that you do not laugh during description

[@shahidhussain2909]

Sir consider we are succeed to form Pakistan as a secular state in which religious authority will be hold by Ulemas and political authority by the rulers i.e The PM, Judiciary etc ,then how we will be able to balance the power because both parties will fight for their dominance as we saw in past in Pakistan,in Iran and in many Muslim countries. Kindly explain this

[@shamshadkazmi9778]

پروفیسر صاحب آخر میں بچ کر نکل گئے 😊

[@farhanpathan2976]

If Al-Mamun was more inclined to Jabriya thought then why did he made Mutazilla as state ideology.

[@justice70567]

He actually didnt. He made Kalam in general the state ideology, which covers all the various kalami groups, which includes proto-hanafis, dirarites, Jahmites, Mutazilites. He did however allow and tolerate debate and discussions within these groups. According to some historians Al-Mamun was a dirarite, a follower of Dirar ibn Amr, they where upholders of pre-destination.

[@Ash-ir4dp]

I think the title for this video is wrong, this is not Motazila episode 9.

[@Taimur_Laal]

What do you mean?

[@Taimur_Laal]

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[@Taimur_Laal]

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[@Ahmad-yi6d]

Yah lectures ap na 1/2 din phla bhi upload Kya tha 😬

[@Taimur_Laal]

Yes. This is the same one. I just fixed a few things.

[@Ahmad-yi6d]

@@Taimur_Laal ok Sir G. Thanks 😊

[@azhariqbal1390]

All the books you are recommending have been written by non-Muslim writers. Are there no good books written by Muslim writers?

[@shinezzz123]

Ummayads have played football with this religion.

[@Ahmednawaz-f5w]

Bro U always not discuss of Imams philosophy and only focus on Govt sponsored religions

[@Ali-ld6tg]

Govt sponsored religion he important hai unke pass he power hai tumare imam to govt be Nahi le sakhe 😅

[@Ahmad-yi6d]

😶

[@Knockingvoice65]

Latest Samsung different that s separation of religious and political powers under the same Islamic state means the development of departments but the separation of religious and political powers under the capitalist rule is acquired different scenarios

[@khanmislam]

Well done

[@malikfahdaliawan178]

​@@Ali-ld6tg You slayed him😂

[@ansariqbal5923]

Sir g ye to 8th qist hi he

[@DaraShikoh7]

Bahtreen Sir kamal ka lecture ha Magr mazrat Sir, gustakhi mauf!! shiad editing ma galti hu gai hu, AlMamun ka real name Abdullah tha or Almin ka Muhammad nahi? Musa Hadi ka name tha or Abbas AlMamun k beta ka...? Agr ma galat nahi tu...!!

[@Taimur_Laal]

Full name of Al Amin was Abu Musa Muhammad ibn Harun al-Rashid Full name of Al Mamun was Abu al-Abbas Abd Allah ibn Harun al-Rashid

[@tahakhan7154]

I learn a lot from your videos taimor sahab, however why is that when you say Islamic fundamentalism the word seems to have a negative connotation or perception towards it, not only that, why do you separate Islamic fundamentalism from the Abbasid rule, does Islamic fundamentalism mean something else to you, they did separate the ulema from the state affairs but they were still adherents of the sharia, therefore i feel you have painted a rather biased portrait showing Maulana maudodi in that particular slide, not mentioning that this idea of nifaaz of sharia has always existed in Islamic civilizations predating any faqih/alim or religious scholar in that regards. P.S I'm not a jamati.

[@Modic.deutsch]

No it has never existed in the civilization. It was first coined in its true book form by aurangzeb in fatawa e alamgiri. He gathered a bug chunk of ulemas from madina, makkah and the whole world and tried to reinstate a proper version of a shariah. And then this term war frequently used. Before that , it was always the obedience of ruler. If the ruler said something, ulemas obliged or faced repercussions. And every sultan of his region had its own agendas and rulings with some flavour of islam. basic frame work was prepared during aurangzeb. And that too because the economy was in ruins and they had nothing to sell. So they started putting more taxes(jizya) on hindus and using religion as a bait to keep the mutinies at bay. It was successful. And even today when we talk about political islam or shariah we quote The scholars of that time, or modudi. Nobody else used political islam in this entire history. It was always a king or sultan who had monopoly .

[@Sam-sb8kg]

History hi bataeyn na kah apnay ideas ya point of views, mowdudi ki tarhan! Teacher hota hi yih hay jo objectively students kay saamnay facts, figures, analysis, results rakh dai!!!

[@shahinshah389]

No , his real name was Abu jafar al mansur

[@Taimur_Laal]

@@shahinshah389 his full name was Abū al-ʿAbbās Abdallāh al-Maʾmūn ibn Harūn

[@muneebahmadganie9029]

fire your video editor

[@notzul7138]

Hahaha i think its her lil daughter 😅cute tho

[@Taimur_Laal]

I do my editing myself. It's not good? Should I hire someone?

[@muneebahmadganie9029]

@@Taimur_Laal Your content is excellent, but improving your video editing could significantly enhance its impact. If you can invest in a professional editor, I believe your channel will experience substantial growth.

[@notzul7138]

@@Taimur_Laal Of course sir, editing-1 content +69

[@AR-fr8br]

تاریخ ابن کثیر میں خلیفہ ابو جعفر منصور اور نفس ذکیہ کے درمیان خطوط کا تبادلہ ریکارڈ ہے وہ ضرور پڑھئے اس سے یہی تاثر ملتا ہے کہ حسنی سادات خود کو نجیب الطرفین ہونے کی وجہ سے افضل اہل بیت سمجھتے تھے جبکہ بنو عباس نبی کے اصل وارث ہونے کی وجہ سے خود کو افضل اہل بیت سمجھتے تھے۔ جبکہ حسینی سادات عباسیوں کے حمایتی تھے اسی لئے کالے جھنڈے اور کالے کپڑے آج تک حسینی سادات پہنتے ہیں جو کہ عباسیوں کا نشان تھا۔ حسنی سادات اور عباسیوں کے درمیان جنگ میں حسینی سادات نے عباسیوں کا ساتھ دیا تھا۔ یہ بات سمجھ سے بالاتر ہے کہ حسینی اور عباسی اتحاد کب اور کیسے ختم ہوا جبکہ اصل اختلاف حسنی اور حسینی سادات کے درمیان رہا ہے۔

[@Taimur_Laal]

Excellent points. I think the key breaking point was the revolt of Nafs Al-Zakiyya

[@AR-fr8br]

@Taimur_Laal Nafs Zakia was Hasni, and he even forced Imam Jafar for his allegiance and support, but Imam refused to support Nafs Zakia. As per Usul Kafi accounts, Nafs Zakia killed Ismael bin muhammad bin Jafar and imprisoned Imam Jafar also as both did not support his cause. Both of them tried to convince him to leave the idea of rebellion, but he was determined to rebel against Khaleefa and was killed during a battle. There was a rift between Hasni and Husaini sadat on claim of Imamat.

[@jamilkhan715]

Very educative,as have been all the episodes.Stay safe professor Lal.

[@shaneali2212]

Sir grey hair doesn’t suit you

[@Taimur_Laal]

Really?

[@Khan36000]

Saray hazraaat Muslim history pr a kr phas gay hain, baqi duniya bhe discuss kro yaar, African, Latina American, Australian, Chinese Europe etc. Muslim history se koi aagay he nhn ja raha, jis ko Dekho bas ek he baat Baar Baar Baar Baar Baar Baar kiye ja rah hai.

[@Ahmad-yi6d]

Apni history prh ka takleef Kyu hoti ha?

[@Khan36000]

@@Ahmad-yi6d apni history Baar Baar sun kr talkeef hoti hai Bhai

[@Ahmad-yi6d]

@@Khan36000 Pakistan k history sun ka tkleef hona k smjh aati h but Islamic history sun ka to nhi honi chahya, Kyu ka yah zaada sunna ko to nhi mlti.....

[@Taimur_Laal]

Just look at my channel. There is tons of content in Europe, China, Asia, Africa.

[@Khan36000]

@@Taimur_Laal already joined your channel Sir, & never skipped your single video ever Sir. But tired from listening this kind of stuff, so that's why I shared my expressions. More interested to have an analysis from financial point of view. Our issue is not religious but financial only. Thanks Prof