Talib Kweli & Faith Evans On Biggie, Lil Kim, Puff, 'Love Like This,' Her Son | People's Party Full

In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with singer, writer, arranger and first lady of Bad Boy Records.
FAITH EVANS
Here's what we got into on this one:
• Befriending Talib in the early 2000's and already being mutual fans of each other's work.
• Her mother having Faith at age 17 while she was working as a singer/band leader.
• Catching the attention of her church at age 4 while singing "Let the Sunshine In".
• Sneaking out of the house as a teen to create and learn how to navigate the studio.
• Being close friends with Redman's younger sister Roslyn throughout high school.
• Redman introducing NYC Cannabis legend Branson to Faith, who brought him to BIG.
• Talib freestyling his way out of incarceration while traveling through Bermuda.
• How her son's struggles with autism has become her number one priority in life.
• The backstory of getting noticed by Puff and signing with Bad Boy in 1993.
• Hit Squad's Hurricane G. being a bridge to her and Biggie getting together.
• Her goals and thoughts during the time of releasing her debut album 'Faith'.
• Faith's experience attending the infamous 1995 Source Awards.
• Being the voice of truth while protecting the legacies of BIG and Pac.
• Linking up with DMX on his 'I Miss You' and her experience working with X.
• Faith's 1998 hit 'Love Like This' and her honest take on Fat Man Scoop's remix.
• The mixed bag of influences that inspired her 2001 album 'Faithfully'.
• Meeting an unknown D'Angelo while she collab'd with A Tribe on 'Stressed Out'.
• Her exit from Bad Boy in 2005 to create 'The First Lady' and her talk with Puff.
• Raekwon joining in on her remake of Biggie's 'Everyday Struggle'.
• The powerful lyrics on her song 'Real Things' and who penned them.
• Making a compilation record in 2012 for the reality show 'R&B Divas'
• Feeling like Biggie's spirit was in the studio during the making of 2017's 'The King & I'.
• Why she felt it was important to bring Lil' Kim in on 'Lovin' You For Life'.
• Faith's husband, producer and TV reality star Stevie J and their history.
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3:00 -- Faith is asked if she can recall the first time she and Talib met. They discuss collaborating on 'Broken Glass' after she found out, to her surprise that they were mutual fans of each other's work. They go on to explore Faith's childhood, being born in Florida and raised in New Jersey. Her mother having her at age 17 while she was working as a singer/band leader alongside her father, a white musician that Faith never had the chance to meet. Faith gets into her mother's diverse musical taste that she passed on to her as well as her grandparents who raised many foster children over the years. 8:33 -- Faith speaks on starting to sing at the age of two years old and a couple years later at age four catching the attention of the congregation at the Emmanuel Baptist Church in Newark when she was belting out the Flintstones' version of "Let the Sunshine In" around her house. She talks about being shy early-on and not having any ambitions of becoming a performer, but instead focusing on the reading and writing of music. They also discuss her deep gospel music influences, sneaking out of the house to create in the local studio and later meeting Teddy Riley. 13:51 - Faith tells how she was close friends with Redman's younger sister Roslyn throughout high school who she's still close with today. She tells how she dated Red for a short time as a Freshman and originally meeting him while he was drumming at a different local church. They also get into years later when Red introduced NYC Cannabis legend Branson to Faith who in turn introduced him to Biggie. Jasmin goes on to tell her story of robbing a weed dealer and they discuss Faith attaining her notorious nickname, 'New Jersey Drive' due to her getaway driving abilities. 18:27 -- Talib tells the whole story of getting caught with weed in his underwear while traveling through Bermuda, how he freestyle rapped his way to freedom and Jasmin notes her own freestyle talents. Faith goes on to speak about how her son's struggles with autism has become the number one priority in her everyday life. She explains how she has been forced to file three separate lawsuits against her son's school for mishandling funds and also taking time during quarantine to do free symposiums for other parents of special needs children that are dealing with similar struggles. 26:24 -- Faith is asked for some of the backstory to her signing with Bad Boy in 1993. She gets into some of her early work writing for Al B. Sure and later landing in the studio where Puff was able to witness her talent, leading to him asking if she'd like to join the label. Faith also goes on to detail how Hit Squad's Hurricane G. was a major bridge to her eventual romance with Biggie. She's asked what her goals and thoughts were at the time of releasing her debut album 'Faith' in 1995 and she tells about how her proficiency around the studio is why she felt she landed the record deal. 32:28 -- Faith gets into her experience attending the infamous 1995 Source Awards with her being backstage while Suge Knight was taking shots at Bad Boy. She's asked if she had any idea how big that moment would be for hip hop history. They also talk about Faith's book 'Keep the Faith: A Memoir', her being a voice of truth detailing what she's gone through as well as protecting the legacies of Pac and Biggie. She talks about if she really knew 2Pac personally, BIG being deeply upset over Pac's shooting and how at this point, all these years later everyone has fully formed their own opinions about how things went down. 40:20 -- Talib brings up the recent loss of DMX, the collab between him and Faith on 'I Miss You' and the solace it brought him after he lost his grandmother around that time. Faith talks about her experience working with the legend and speaks to the sincerity she sensed in him as well as his breaks into prayer. They go on to discuss Faith's 1998 club banger 'Love Like This', how it dominated the scene and stood the test of time over all the years. She also details her mixed feelings of hearing Fat Man Scoop's version on the radio and they discuss the days of DJ's making bank by pressing up mixtape records and selling on the underground. 45:45 -- Faith's 2001 album 'Faithfully' is brought up and her noting the mixed bag of influences that inspired that record. They go on to discuss how her collab with A Tribe Called Quest on 'Stressed Out' came together. Faith details the day she rolled into the studio with Junior Mafia to link up with Tribe while she was still in her pajamas where she ended up meeting a relatively unknown D'Angelo for the first time. They take a quick break from the interview to Facetime their mutual friend, producer Lance Rivera and discuss when he'll be making his People's Party appearance. 51:51 -- Faith is asked about her exit from Bad Boy around 2005 to make 'The First Lady' and how she knew it was time for a change. She talks about how after the loss of Biggie things just weren't the same for several years and details the meeting she had with Puff where she asked for him to not interfere with her leaving. They go on to discuss Pharrell asking Faith to sing like Lynn Collins on her and Talib's collab 'Broken Glass', why Faith asked Raekwon to join in on her remake of Biggie's 'Everyday Struggle' and Faith learning to navigate the ins and outs of independent labels versus big time record companies. 57:31 -- Faith's powerful lyrics on her song 'Real Things' relating to relationships is discussed and a big shout-out is given to Malik Pendleton who originally penned the words. They go on to discuss Faith's doing a compilation record in 2012 for the reality show 'R&B Divas' as well as get into Faith's quote of feeling like Biggie's spirit was in the studio with her during the making of 2017's 'The King & I'. Faith talks about why she felt it was important to bring Lil' Kim on 'Lovin' You For Life' and also wishing she could have had Charli Baltimore on the track as well. 1:05:54 -- Jasmin brings up Faith's husband, producer and TV reality star Stevie J and how the internet has been buzzing about them being divorced. Faith corrects the record on that and talks about her being close friends with Stevie for many years before they got romantic as well as not connecting him to the reality show persona that most people know him by. Talib goes on to tell why he feels it's been one of the best People's Party shows to date and Faith speaks about how right now she's fully focused on her son and advocating for other parents of special needs kids that are being taken advantage of by the system.

[@thecunninlynguist]

Jasmine robbin dudes out here haha

[@anthonymcmillan8273]

She's both hood and humble! Her first 3 albums are my favorites, particularly the first. I liked the entire album. The songs I like are "You used to love me", "Love don't live here anymore" and "soon as I get home". She's one of the 🐐 s!

[@aishan8788]

YES I looooove how hood and humble she is at the same time. It's her realness that make her one of my favorites.

[@rachealsilburn901]

AGREED!!!!

[@caramelcosmo71147]

I have ALWAYS LOOOOVED Faith Evans!! Her voice, arrangements, and songwriting skills are magical and one of a kind!

[@agirlfromjersey]

I love her. Faith Evans is the epitome of ‘you can take the girl out of Jersey but you can’t take the Jersey out the girl’

[@shavonnajolly4797]

Regardless of whatever struggle she is going through she holds her own. Leave this woman alone. She dropped jewels in this interview. Until u walked a mile in her shoes don't speak on it.

[@koolaid1982]

THANK YOU 🙏🏾 I APPRECIATE YOU STICKING UP FOR MY FAVORITE SINGER PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE NEGATIVE FEELINGS ABOUT FAITH EVANS SHES VERY TALENTED AND A REALLY COOL PERSON

[@traceymasonperry9302]

Amej. I loved her since 1995. Her songs her stuggles her come up!!!

[@ProphetKBlack]

🎯

[@CurrentRapCurrents]

no doubt. i'm not gunna lie... it's hard for me to watch this interview; i'm 13 mins in and my heart is heavy. i keep getting distracted by the something (or not) that's got ahold of her. let's see if i can tough it out.

[@aisensantana6765]

​@@CurrentRapCurrents faith isnt own anything lol shes low key a hood chick smokes herb, but faith cannot hold her liquor lol shes always home taking care her son with autism, so she just having fun here

[@RaiRaiBrown]

Faith's voice is legendary, she has one of the most beautiful, soulful, RnB voices I've ever heard as a solo artist. Faith is an RnB Icon. There's only two at the top Mary J Blidge and Faith Evens. I believe what they have already done has stood the test of time and very few people currently can compare. This was a great interview, Faith feels like family.

[@johntaws9576]

Faith Evans is ICONIC! My favorite singer of all time. She is a mad-scientist, harmonizing genius in the booth.

[@angholloway5091]

Yeah queen faith and queen mary are the queens of r&b!!!

[@shondellbutler5055]

Her vibe and attitude is top tier! When she said " I don't give a fuck" that is so smart of her.

[@naturalbeauty637]

I love Faith's laugh. She seems so down to earth.

[@BountifulOrchard]

Faith first and second albums are gems.. I LOVE “You Don’t Understand” and “My First Love”.. beautiful tracks..

[@angelrogers3880]

Those are also my favorite tracks

[@travisjohnson2894]

You don’t understand is definitely my all time favorite song! 💪🏾

[@charlita25]

I read “Keep The Faith “ she was very candid in her book 📖. Reading it made me more of a fan.

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

Yes she went on that book.

[@Platinumcut26]

I like that Talib gave different questions that we haven’t heard anyone ask before especially about songs! Love me some faith

[@cedricbailey4505]

"Reasons" and "All this love" are 2 of my fave Faith joints...but I also have a whole list of undeniable songs that live rent free in my music space from almost every Faith album...she is absolutely amazing!!

[@storiking650]

😵Yoooooooo😵, OMGAAHH those are LITERALLY my #1 & #2 songs on that album. Out of all the 💣💥's on that album, what's the odds of that & literally in that order!!!!!!

[@dominiquephillips8918]

You don’t understand will add to the bunch 😂

[@Mister006]

There ain't a day in this life where I don't love Faith for who she is, just as she is.

[@kwamesarfo-mensah5785]

Educator here! Much love to Faith for spitting facts about IEPs and the special education system. This info is SOOOO important for parents to know! 🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@allamaraine8066]

Thank you for what you do, brother. Educators deserve more respect and pay.

[@OG-DUCKSAUCE]

Faith dropping I.E.P. knowledge. OH My goodness. So strong. Most parents don't speak on this as much.

[@mele9131]

Looks like he was trying to lean in to give her a hug but she danced right past him. LOL

[@jonathantyler9502]

Maybe because he farted in the car on the way there

[@simonsez1787]

I noticed 😭 lol

[@lateshiachilds3640]

Right, I saw that

[@ricardoburton7688]

My favorite female vocalist alive, and one of the most humble down to earth celebs ever, still love me some Faif!!

[@MoEnyce]

I love faith so much..I call her “auntie” all the time lol..she probably be like “who is this guy that keeps calling me auntie on my page”🥴🥴 “Right Here” is my favorite song❤️

[@mistagoodbar3484]

I LOVE that Faith refused to readdress some of their dumb/redundant ass questions.

[@carmensandiego223]

Yes!! It's annoying....like she said the story isn't going to change....

[@charlita25]

She’s one ☝🏾 of the best arrangers

[@MarkyFresh318]

I’m definitely a #FAITHFUL!! Ya’ll didn’t discuss the album “INCOMPARABLE”! Love Faith forever!

[@hl2266]

Wow I missed that too.

[@ProphetKBlack]

She came BACK back!!!

[@lateshiachilds3640]

I have that CD, amazing album

[@shortyrock67]

Anything wit my baby’s Faye is gold

[@user-ml8im3zd7s]

Talib your voice is so hip hop iykyk I swear it's like Sunday dinner at my grandparents house in the 90s it just makes me feel good this was a phenomenal interview

[@riritheedon8967]

I love Faith Evans so much 🥰🥰

[@walterbrownmaxwell]

I remember the first time I met her in front of her aunt’s house in Newark. Such a beautiful spirit.

[@YOMAME123]

27 minutes in this interview to me will be 1 of Faith's best interview to me👍

[@kendrick8749]

Faith doesnt get tge level of respect she deseerves. Her music legacy has tarnished with relationship crap. She is a LEGEND!

[@ivan363]

Finally a guest checks Jazmin On her doing too much persona 💪🏾

[@drubert1981]

several times. she was doing too much.

[@mrbrownroyyal]

Faith: The First Lady of Hip Hop Soul and R&B! Put some respect on her name!

[@overstandinggod3410]

I'm a huge Faith Evans fan, and I watched R&B Divas too...

[@algorhythm83]

I enjoy the fact that she speaks the same knowledge about Tupac and Big after all these years.

[@km7943]

Shout Out To Faith: One of my favorite singers

[@bowling4clarity817]

"reggie" is slang for regular. Like mid-grade. We've been saying it since the '90s and phillie blunts .

[@anthonyv6962]

facts

[@jamesburton9708]

Reggie ain't a 90's term. That's from the 2000's. And Phillie Blunts go back to the 80's.

[@jamesburton9708]

@@anthonyv6962 1) You quoted the book. Cool. You still didn't reference the context. 2) Good to know you got it from a book and aren't authentically/first handedly familiar with the culture 😁

[@jamesburton9708]

@@anthonyv6962 Keep reading books about what everyone else actually experienced 🤣🤣🤣

[@Strawberryfearsforever]

@@jamesburton9708 Was definitely saying Reggie in the 90s my guy. But mid-grade was like a step above Reggie.

[@goldenlion8123]

THE FLINTSTONES AND THE JETSONS WAS THE SHIT FOR KIDS OUR AGE THEN..

[@storiking650]

Yes it WAS💪🏾!!!

[@KD_SWAGGER]

Faith Evans always had a beautiful voice. Her and Biggie to me were the original Love & Hip Hop couple along with Pepa & Treach. To whoever us reading this, have FAITH and keep pushing to overcome your adversity in life.

[@redefineapparel1294]

Faith is down to earth

[@storiking650]

That's that #BrickCity in here ✊🏾!!!

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

She really is

[@lamontricks1074]

I love Faith how she got her Grab a leaf bout to roll one love it.

[@jamesmarie]

Came in here to say, “Soon as I get home”. is still a good jam to sing to.

[@kkkk-hl9nr]

I LOVE HER SO MUCH SINCE DAY ONE. I CANT WAIT TO WATCH THIS WHEN I GET HOME.

[@starfire9328]

yoooo her laugh reminds me of when smokey mom was laughing real loud on the phone when she asked him to go to the store and she aint have enough money n she was like make it enough on the movie friday ...

[@jKHAHN215PA]

Not too much of an R&B fan but I love Faith ..soulful af! Fire was my favorite shit w/Freeway 🌹

[@MONKMONEY-hu1gw]

Faith got that crack head laugh..... 😆 Still love her music though.

[@maisondikkson735]

Buy 30 $10s 🤣🤣

[@Leoego]

Cigarette smoker laugh 😂

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

I Love Faith Evans. 🙏🏿💙💙💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@thecunninlynguist]

Faith real chill. This should be a good interview

[@rachealsilburn901]

I remember so clearly when I first heard, Used To Love Me on the radio. I was 13 y/o. (Back in them days I listened to the radio 24/7 and had my cassette tapes ready to dub songs.) As soon as I heard it I loved it IMMEDIATELY! Could not wait for the radio station to play it again so I could record it. Then, Soon As I Get Home dropped and I’ve been rocking with Faith ever since! That is my girl!

[@teegreen227]

Yea the good ol days

[@charlita25]

“That n--- keep calling 📞 the whole time I’m here” lol 😂

[@belladonna5904]

Because he knows she don't respect herself.

[@guilitotorres9777]

Faith's aura is just different and she gives such good vibes in all her interviews. I could tell alot of people love her. And she's still beautiful 😍. Love her sense of humor

[@lovely_star1917]

Okay faith rolling up 😂😂

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

Such a Cool and Down to earth genuine spirit.

[@RespectTheConglomerate]

I love Faith so much.

[@nursegege5151]

Faith is still my all time fave. My twin ❤️❤️

[@Dominque-se5dx]

Talib appears to be a Classy Interviewer... He did his research, he allowed Faith to speak, he actively listened, and when he was misunderstood he did not become combative or try and make her feel stupid.... He asked REAL questions..

[@heavyhandsholmes.9494]

Faith is so cool.

[@REVAMPEDWRESTLING2K]

She is something else, a delight, funny and inspiring.

[@jibrilbuilder2668]

Excellent Timing..I searched for Faith Evans interviews and this popped up!!

[@cesarsjogren]

Yo... Faith is hilarious

[@k.l.s1869]

Damn Talib wanted the hug when she came out and she walked right past him 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheUnderdogzX]

I really enjoyed this. Great work getting more in-depth about Faith's musical influences and events in her early career.

[@Thebillybryan]

Its crazy how Talib has genuine personal relations with most of his guests

[@uncvic1]

Thoroughly enjoyed. Great talk everybody...

[@brandonwilson1786]

Faith been 🔥

[@lateshiachilds3640]

I'm a huge Faith fan, I have all of her CDs. I'm so glad I got to see her in concert back in 2011.

[@faafafineartist]

Beautiful interview.

[@leonardwilliams90]

You're beautiful 👀🥰🙈

[@rickjames21]

Beautiful Struggle is a classic. Like its a solid and complete bit of artistry

[@rachealsilburn901]

Faith is aging so gracefully. Her and Mary J. They are more beautiful now than when they were younger. And both are so down to earth….so personable and relatable.

[@charlita25]

I loved 🥰 “”stressed out “ definitely in my playlist #tribecalledquest

[@emblem2425]

Faith is also the Queen of the Hip Hop hook.

[@therealmdotmoney]

Look at Fizzy 😍😍🤣🤣🤣!!! Love ya fam!!!

[@ezekielgskeen8607]

New Album! New Album!! Awesome artist, full Stop!! salute from UK

[@enzigenes]

Mary J Blige's My Life album wouldn't have the success it had without Faith Evans on those background vocals. She saved Mary on that album. People don't give her enough credit.

[@SuperLilro10]

Which is exactly why we neee a Verzuz battle between Faith and Mary.

[@shortyrock67]

@@SuperLilro10 I agree but it won’t happen

[@sistamaryclarence]

Not only her bgv but also her pen game 🔥🔥 she wrote a lot on that album

[@enzigenes]

@@sistamaryclarence True.

[@ShawnWhitsell]

Respectful, I disagree. I'm a big Faith fan. What she brought to "My Life" was great. However, she was only on three songs, none of which were singles. I love her vocals on the album. I think she helped make the album the classic it is, but to say she saved Mary is a reach.

[@faafafineartist]

OMG Faye, please continue the idea of You, Kim and Charli single.

[@jadamarie6932]

MY GIRL FAITH!!! 💋💞💞BABY ‼️‼️‼️😂DON'T PLAY WITH NO CHECK,NO NOTHIN DONTPLAY'!!!!

[@charlita25]

“Loving you for life “ featuring Lil Kim 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@charlita25]

“The King 👑 and I “ album 💿 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Theesvpremekai]

Let’s get Ja Rule on the phone, see what he has to say about this.

[@jaykristian745]

Faith is soo hood.😂

[@viralbuthow000]

Faith give me Billie Holiday vibes

[@Convert4real]

I love Faith!

[@tauheedahbarbee822]

Faith Evans is iconic and a legend period

[@shondellbutler5055]

Love Faith!♥️

[@bighugebird]

That was one incredible introduction.

[@faithjordan1094]

Thanks for having me Hopefully I could get somebody to write me some songs.

[@CurrentRapCurrents]

28:45 Wow... Big Ups to Hurricane G... 1 of the dopest and memorable voices and cadences in hip hp

[@koolaid1982]

COME ON NOW 🥰🙌🏾MY FAVORITE FEMALE SINGER TEAM FAITHFUL TEAM FIZZY BRICK CITY BABY DESPITE THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS IM READING IN THE VIDEO STILL EXCITED LOVE YOU FAITH EVANS BEEN A FAITHFUL SINCE 95 BABY

[@kenyabutts3592]

OMG when Faith was saying Branson is on a lot of songs i was thinking Branson was on Jadakiss' and Faith's Letter to Big song 'You know I'm still the liquor and the weed child And still got Branson on speed dial'.🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bess_conversations_podcast]

Faith gonna end up smacking that girl… asking all them bad questions

[@Networkingqueens1]

she was low key rude to her though lol she was sweet and tried to keep it professional

[@darinsmith3791]

Faith need to have a press conference about Stevie j😳

[@belladonna5904]

If it wasn't Stevie it would be some other bum. Faith has never been single. She hops from relationship to relationship.

[@BlackQueen0109]

Jersey Girl!!! Love this!!

[@IzzysCuisines]

This my Fav Right Here...Faye Faye. I ask that Yall Pleeaaaase STOP Asking Her The Same Ole Question About Tupac. Tupac is Dead and Whether the Answer is Yay or Nay U Aint Gonna Change His or Biggies Life. How Many Times Must The Woman Keep Telling The Same Thing Over, Yet Yall Come Over 20 Years Later With The Same Question. It Tiring and Boring! Luv Faye For Her Realness. She Has Never Changed. Much Props Baby Gurl!

[@AMWTSCAM82]

The Number 1 Podcast is DRINK CHAMPS

[@user-ml8im3zd7s]

THIS WAS A PHENOMENAL EPISODE TALIB AND FAITH 7 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@antonymorris9828]

Great episode with faith love her

[@dmcfcthiscityisblue1]

From England to the USA i'm loving Faith Evans on the show the woman is not just blessed with the Beautiful looks and the singing voice that she's got she's blessed 🙏 in everyway full-stop nuff love to Faith Evans and all the other shows you do on your podcast R the bomb you keep it real from start to finish the best podcast around.

[@mirmir8944]

SHOUT OUT TO THE BRICKS FROM NEWARK TO NEW YORK WE LOVE YOUR FAITH. ARRANGE RIGHT

[@Teafield02]

Faith looks like Florence from the Supremes

[@SimplyBeingTT]

I couldn't put my finger on it, but that's exactly who she resembles! ☺️

[@rorysharrock9889]

I will forever be a Faith Evans fan!

[@retroesso]

I think she thought it was “drink champs” …

[@violetteberrie3245]

Was looking for this comment🤣 Thanks for not disappointing 😉😭😭😭

[@pablo27930]

Fath normal and so down to earth Love her for that.

[@MissTip]

Love faith 🥰